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pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 9:05 am
So had my draft last night. Best part of the season for me. a bunch of friends have been in this league together for over 10 years (with some changes).

I cooked 30 pounds of wings 8 pounds of meatballs, 2 pounds of bacon, and we drank a ton of beer.

Anyway I have never seen a draft unfold like this. We have one guy who is a pretty intelligent guy try to outsmart himself and he drafted 3 QB's in the first 4 rounds. We can only start one QB at a time. We were all shocked. He drafted Brees in the 2nd round, then Peyton in the third then Tom Brady in the 4th and then to top it off Garropolo in the 17th.

He messed up the sequencing and expectations people had. He also screwed me by taking Beckham in the first at pick 9, which was before he was projected to go.

this is a 12-team ppr league where QB's get 6 pts per TD with bonuses for long TD passes. No mandatory TE. Keeper league - which explains some of my rookie RB drafting

My WR's need some work

Here is my team:
QB: Andrew Luck (2)
RB: CJ Anderson (1)
RB: Carlos Hyde (3)
WR: Julian Edelman (4)
WR: Amari Cooper (6)
Flex: Todd Gurley (5)
Flex: David Johnson (7)
K: Josh Brown (16)
ST: Bills (15)
Bench: John Brown (8)
Bench: Cole Beasley (10)
Bench: Torrey Smith (9)
Bench: Matt Asiata (11)
Bench: Dorial Green Beckham (13)
Bench: Rueben Randle (14)
Bench: Zach Zenner (17)
Bench: Teddy Bridgewater (12)


Yahoo gave it a B and projected me as the league champion. LOL.

Today I have pick #2 in a 10 team, no ppr 4pt per TD pass league. Who do you target at 2? Peterson? I drafted him in this same league last year at #2 and he played one game before his debacle. There is some bitterness there. If Bell doesn't go #1 I'll take him.
Also  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 9:07 am : link
I picked 11th out of 12 in that first league.
Hyde and Edelman  
Koldegaard : 8/30/2015 9:41 am : link
Are reaches imo. Who were available when you picked those two? I like the Luck and CJ picks.
Looks like a solid team on paper..  
arcarsenal : 8/30/2015 9:47 am : link
But I've never done a keeper league or a league where you don't mandatorily start a TE so it's hard for me to really know how because I have little to go by.

My long standing 10 team, .5 PPR draft is tonight.. I'm excited. I have 5th pick and have a pretty good game plan. Just hoping there aren't too many curveballs. I should come away with a solid team.
I actually had the rounds reversed  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 9:51 am : link
I picked Edelman in the 3rd, Hyde in the 4th.

When I picked Edelman the next few picks were: Emmanuel Sanders (who I considered, but I don't love the Broncos offense this year other than Anderson), Melvin Gordon, Hyde (who I took on the way back in the 4th), Ellington, Latavious Murray, Jonathan Stewart, TJ Yeldon, Amir Abdullah, Jimmy Graham, Andre Johnson.

By the time I took Edelman 13 WR's were already off the board and by the time I took Hyde 14 RB's were already off the board.

slight reaches based on my rankings, but not too bad.
Arc  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 9:53 am : link
have you ever seen a team take 3 QB's in their first 4 picks?

I can't wait to see how it works out.

My other draft is today at 1. and I have the 2nd pick, standard 10-team (no ppr and 4pt per TD for QB's)

Who would you target? Is it AP no-brainer? Jamal Charles?
I'll post this here since its for today... .5 PPR  
kelsto811 : 8/30/2015 10:26 am : link
RB
Ronnie Hillman

I have: randle, blue, Jennings, gray,matt jones

Would you guys replace Hillman with one of those?

TE available: josh Hill, Tyler eifert, Rodney Rodgers

I have: Jordan Cameron, Antonio Gates

Would you replace a TE here?


I need an advantage and to manage my team well because I lost Jordy
I think Hillman will get some touches  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 10:32 am : link
but CJ Anderson will carry the load there.

I do think the Patriots like Gray a lot and he'll start week 1 while Blount serves his 1-game suspension, but then with NE RB's who knows what to expect.

Matt Jones is a good late round keeper league option, but unless Morris is injured I don't know if anyone knows how many touches he'll get.

Blue and Jennings are the most interesting ones, I think Blue's value is tied to how long Foster is out.

I like Jennings more than Hillman period.

I like your TE's if they stay healthy.
The guy who takes 2 let alone 3 qbs early  
djm : 8/30/2015 10:37 am : link
Is trying to reinvent the wheel based on the theory that he will trade a QB to a desperate owner and get more value back.

He's an idiot.
Thanks PJ  
kelsto811 : 8/30/2015 10:41 am : link
DJM...I would say in general you're right however it really depends who the owners are. I had a guy last year who dropped Tom Brady after week 4 and I ended up trading him Russel Wilson for Emmanuel Sanders...obviously that's the exception, but it isn't impossible
RE: The guy who takes 2 let alone 3 qbs early  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 10:48 am : link
In comment 12442702 djm said:
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Is trying to reinvent the wheel based on the theory that he will trade a QB to a desperate owner and get more value back.

He's an idiot.


That's exactly what he said. "people are going to be begging me for a QB", but he's going to have trouble fielding a team until or if that happens.

His starting RB's week 1 project to be: Rashad Jennings and Zack Stacy

his starting WR's are good (potentially): Beckham and Sammy Watkins, but his flex spots are Stevie Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald right now. And he doesn't have much depth.

He also took his D/ST round 11 (HOU),at least 3 rounds before the next D (other than Seattle who was also picked way too early for this league) was taken.

he will be sorry for drafting those  
Koldegaard : 8/30/2015 11:13 am : link
Qb's when he is beaten by a team starting Eli/Palmer/Tannehil
RE: Arc  
arcarsenal : 8/30/2015 11:14 am : link
In comment 12442638 pjcas18 said:
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have you ever seen a team take 3 QB's in their first 4 picks?

I can't wait to see how it works out.

My other draft is today at 1. and I have the 2nd pick, standard 10-team (no ppr and 4pt per TD for QB's)

Who would you target? Is it AP no-brainer? Jamal Charles?


The QB thing is bizarre. My guess is that he thought if he could create a shortage in QB supply on his own, there would be more reaches for later rd. QB's in middle rounds and he'd try cleaning up on the pieces left behind as a result. Or maybe he thought by monopolizing a chunk of the quality talent at the position, he'd be able to use them as trade chips for RB's or WR's.

Some people go with a straight up value based strategy but usually shift towards need a few rounds in.. and I don't think those QB's even presented the best value on the board at the times he picked them, either. Very strange.

Anyway.. in non-PPR, I would take AP. Not necessarily a "no brainer" but I do think he's in for a pretty big year. A league structured that way is one where you really want that workhorse RB and AP is still one of the few left.
12 team league had pick 11  
Big Rick in FL : 8/30/2015 11:29 am : link
What do you guys think? Regular scoring except bonus points for 40+ yard TDs

QB - Stafford, Dalton

RB - Jeremy Hill, Carlos Hyde, Arian Foster, Chris Ivory, Knile Davis

WR - Odell, Golden Tate, Roddy White, Rueben Randle, Kenny Britt & Kenny Stills

TE - Martellus, Kyle Rudolph

D/ST - Bills

K - Matt Bryant
I like your RB's and your starting WR's  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:31 am : link
not a huge fan of the QB's, but shouldn't really hurt you too much.

I had the same exact spot 11th, but my league is ppr and 6pts per passing TD.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of Stafford  
Big Rick in FL : 8/30/2015 11:38 am : link
Either, but he had 332 points in my league last year with Calvin missing 3 games & Ebron hurt all year. Bonus points for long passes are huge. Tate, Ebron & Calvin can do that.

I'm really hoping Foster is back by week 4 which is being reported. He had 236 points while missing 4 games last year.
Fuckin' (diving) Canadiens  
MetsAreBack : 8/30/2015 11:38 am : link

so this was basically a fancy way to post a "rate my fantasy team" thread.

SMH @ PJ
I hate those rate my fantasy team  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:44 am : link
threads. LOL.

but yeah, what do you think of my team?

It was more to brag about the fact I cooked 30 pounds of chicken wings and 8 pounds of meatballs and 2 pounds of bacon.
From the other thread  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2015 11:45 am : link
We pick to pick in my league, drew 8th and selected the 10th pick (leaving 6th-9th on the board). 12 teams .5 PPR and i'm pretty happy with everything.

QB - Newton, Kaepernick
WR - A. Brown, D. Thomas, Tate, Wheaton, Marvin Jones
RB - L. Murray, Gordon, Yeldon, Andre Williams, David Johnson
TE - Cameron, Davis
DEF - Miami
Going WR heavy was a no brainer  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2015 11:47 am : link
didn't want pick 6 and glad the my target, Brown, was there at 10. It was a RB chase all of the first round and I wanted no part of it.
I had a draft Friday, 10th pick out of 12, PPR  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 11:48 am : link
QB - Newton (6)
RB - J. Hill (2)
RB - T. Mason (14)
WR - A. Brown (1)
WR - M. Evans (3)
WR - A. Cooper (4)
TE - Fleener (8)
RB/WR/TE - Cruz (7)
K - Tucker (16)
DEF - Buffalo (12)

BE - Blount (5)
BE - D. Johnson (9)
BE - M. Wheaton (10)
BE - C. Sims (11)
BE - Ebron (13)
BE - A. Hurns (15)
BE - D. Carr (17)
BE - T. Austin (18)

Yahoo ranked it a B and finishing second in my league... wifi was spotty where we had the draft so it drafted my kicker way ahead of where I wanted... was planning on getting Brandon Coleman there. Some of my guys are very boom or bust. Worried about RB and TE a little. I've been considering dropping Ebron for Ladarious Green or Scott Chandler. My RB situation depends a lot on injuries. Doug Martin is injury prone, Gurley is a question mark now but should be starting at least to start the season when Blount is out and Duke Johnson has looked good so far this preseason. We'll see... I'm hoping Mike Evans doesn't have a big sophomore slump and Amari Cooper keeps up his chemistry with Carr.
I like it  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:50 am : link
I think there is some risk in your running backs with three rookies, a essentially 2nd year back from OAK (3rd year technically but no snaps on O his first year) and Andre Williams.

I like Murray, but just saying as a RB1 he's risky and then a rookie at RB2.

I think it will work out, but that's the position I'd be looking at for the waiver wire.

RE: Going WR heavy was a no brainer  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 11:52 am : link
In comment 12442812 UConn4523 said:
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didn't want pick 6 and glad the my target, Brown, was there at 10. It was a RB chase all of the first round and I wanted no part of it.

I had the same dilemma. I had to pick RB with my second pick though or else there would have been on one left in the 3rd.
RE: I like it  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:53 am : link
In comment 12442817 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
I think there is some risk in your running backs with three rookies, a essentially 2nd year back from OAK (3rd year technically but no snaps on O his first year) and Andre Williams.

I like Murray, but just saying as a RB1 he's risky and then a rookie at RB2.

I think it will work out, but that's the position I'd be looking at for the waiver wire.


this was to Uconn, I'll look at yours now jg
that's why I took CJ Anderson  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:55 am : link
in the first round. I didn't want him that much, but if I didn't take him, there would be no RB 1's left in the 2nd.

I passed up Calvin Johnson, Randall Cobb, Demaryius Thomas to take CJ Anderson at 11.

PJ  
UConn4523 : 8/30/2015 11:56 am : link
absolutely. I took Thomas over Hill essentially and I think it was the right move. I'll be very active on waivers, but if I have to plug and ply 2 RBs I'm cool with it. Basically need 1 of Gordon or Yeldon to get me a solid 7 points per week.
jg  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 11:57 am : link
I like it for ppr, Cruz could be a steal. I wouldn't be comfortable starting Tre Mason as RB2, but your other options are risky too. In the end I think D. Johnson (Is that David Johnson from Arizona)? will be the guy.
Another TE I've been eyeing is Rodgers  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 11:59 am : link
especially now that Cobb is injured. He had been shooting up the charts when Nelson went down as well. Just not sure how much better he is than guys on my bench. I suppose I could get rid of Tavon Austin, but with my last pick I was praying he breaks out with a consistent QB this year....
RE: jg  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12442825 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
I like it for ppr, Cruz could be a steal. I wouldn't be comfortable starting Tre Mason as RB2, but your other options are risky too. In the end I think D. Johnson (Is that David Johnson from Arizona)? will be the guy.


No, I thought about clarifying once I saw UConn post his team, that's Duke. I think he eventually starts there. I only have Mason in there until Blount comes back in week 2. Who knows when they put Gurley in there.
Does anyone draft with Yahoo?  
arcarsenal : 8/30/2015 1:02 pm : link
I pre-ranked like 200 players but I'm not sure if my rankings are going to show up when I draft or if it's still going to be Yahoo's default. When I do mocks, it's still the default.
12 Team standard  
Natek212 : 8/30/2015 1:44 pm : link
QB- Eli
RB- Jeremy Hill, Gore, Ivory, McFadden, Hillman
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, B. Marshall, Fitz, Boldin, Marvin Jones
TE- Jordan Cameron
D- Bengals

Thoughts?
Just got the first pick in another 12 team league  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 7:37 pm : link
AP or Bell?
Bell  
Big Rick in FL : 8/30/2015 7:45 pm : link
I had him last year & weeks 1-10 they didn't give him a ton of touches. After week 10 he started getting a ton of touches & he went off. The final 6 games he had 1002 yards from scrimmage & 8 TDs. From what I've read he will be getting a similar workload this year. If he has a similar average he will have 2500 yards from scrimmage & 20 TDs.

They literally didn't give him the ball in the red zone. I watched the Jags game & they were inside the 10 on 3 occasions he touched the ball 1 time. Once he started getting red zone touches he went off.
RE: Does anyone draft with Yahoo?  
pjcas18 : 8/30/2015 7:47 pm : link
In comment 12442932 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
I pre-ranked like 200 players but I'm not sure if my rankings are going to show up when I draft or if it's still going to be Yahoo's default. When I do mocks, it's still the default.


it keeps your rankings.
What worries me about Bell is no Pouncey  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 7:55 pm : link
and that the Steelers D doesn't look good. They may be passing a lot.
Just wrapped up and went with AP. Got worried about their line  
jgambrosio : 8/30/2015 9:41 pm : link
and having my first pick out for the first 2 games.

QB - Brady
RB - Peterson
RB - Ivory
WR - Cobb
WR - Jeffery
TE - Olsen
FL - Cooper
DEF - Jets
K - Sturgis

BE - Blount
BE - Sankey
BE - Davante Parker
BE - Sam Bradford
BE - Fred Jackson
BE - David Johnson
BE - Antonio Gates

Olsen has a week 5 bye so Gates will be back then. I can also use Bradford until Brady is back. Both Peterson and Ivory have a week 5 bye as well so I can plug in Blount and Sankey, Cobb and Jeffrey both in week 7 so I can put in any of my options.
Had my first draft yesterday as well, 2 keepers .5 ppr - picked 11th  
knicks3031 : 8/31/2015 7:16 am : link
The draft unfolded differently than I imagined with a ton of RBs going in the first 2 rounds, even to teams that had 2 RBs as keepers. I didn't want to reach for RBs so I think that's where I'm weakest..

Luck (5th keeper)
Cam Newton

Calvin
Cooks (8th keeper)
Wright
Cruz
Markus Wheaton

Yeldon
Randle
Vereen
Reggie Bush
Helu

Gronk
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