NFT: Red Sox @ Mets - Sunday Aug 30 @ 1:10pm (on TBS)

Why is Flores out? I get he might need a day but do we have to rest him the same day Cespedes and TDA are out? Ugh....

Anthony DiComo
Collins also pretty adamant that Steven Matz is a starting pitcher and won't be a reliever. Of course, that can change. #Mets

Redsox

Betts, CF
Sandoval, 3B
Bogaerts, SS
Ortiz, 1B
Holt, 2B
Castillo, RF
Swihart C
De Aza, LF
Miley, LHP

In comment 12442739 sphinx said:

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Anthony DiComo Collins also pretty adamant that Steven Matz is a starting pitcher and won't be a reliever. Of course, that can change. #Mets

Matz probably replaces Syndergaard in the rotation because Thor is near an innings cap

Mike Vorkunov
Parnell pitching off the mound under the watch of Dan Warthen, with a bullpen catcher taking swings. Seems like a simulated outing.

Let's rest three of your best starters and play Uribe at a position he's only played once since 2011. That's a TC special right there.

Hey, maybe it's just dumb enough to work.

So while Mets need to make 40-man roster move for Reed by Monday, they won't have to demote a player. Can just add Reed when rosters expand.

For Addison Reed to be playoff-eligible, he only has to be added to the 40-man roster by 8/31. He doesn't have to report until 9/1.

Bobby Parnell threw live batting practice today. Expects to be activated Tuesday.

Doesn't sound like we gave up much, he's had experience closing, and he has good numbers since the AS break but has anyone seen any reports on his stuff or even old scouting reports? Did that claim on the other lefty go through also?

Why anyone would need rest considering collins switches them in and out every other day. Lets just not have a set lineup....ever

In comment 12442843 Eric on Li said:

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Doesn't sound like we gave up much, he's had experience closing, and he has good numbers since the AS break but has anyone seen any reports on his stuff or even old scouting reports? Did that claim on the other lefty go through also?

2012, 13, 14 ... Reed had 29, 40, 32 saves for the White Sox and Dbacks. But also 18 total blown saves. But again, Mets aren't looking for a closer at this point.

Ken Rosenthal
Heard same as @MarcCarig: #Mets unlikely to get Rzepzcynski despite being awarded claim. Reason unclear, but he is only LH in #Padres� �pen.

Trading Rzepczynski would save #Padres less than $500K. Sometimes teams prefer to play it out rather than take back a meager return.

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seen 'official' as to the Reed trade? I haven't.

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seen 'official' as to the Reed trade? I haven't.

pending medical review.

I'm not surprised if they get shut out today

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weird lineups and playing his hunches end up working out.

Adam Rubin
Addison Reed will join the Mets on Monday. Wilfredo Tovar was technically promoted and added to 60-day DL to create 40-man roster spot.

Adam Rubin
Wilfredo Tovar will earn $99,836.07 in September with Mets because of his promotion to the 60-day DL.

Adam Rubin
Mets say Addison Reed will be active Monday. Won't wait until Tuesday when rosters expand. So roster move from MLB staff coming.

you're sitting TDA and Cesepedes. Why sit Flores too?

Thor getting that run in.

In comment 12442984 Rflairr said:

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you're sitting TDA and Cesepedes. Why sit Flores too?

I honestly wonder if Flores was a little dinged up. I can't imagine they would prefer to play Uribe at 2nd. Seems crazy.

Addison Reed's velocity is down a tick or two. He was dialing it up to around 97 a couple years ago. His max velocity is around 95 now, which of course is still more than enough. Especially with an improved splitter.

In comment 12442903 sphinx said:

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Adam Rubin Wilfredo Tovar will earn $99,836.07 in September with Mets because of his promotion to the 60-day DL.

Mets just spending on top of spending! Almost wreckless! Lol

Fuck you Joe West! You throw out Granderson over nothing and then go "hunting" to throw out more Mets?? You fat fuck.

Strike calls of the season on Grandy

And he screwed Grandy in his first atbat too. That was disgraceful.

So now we are down Cespedes, TDA, Flores, and Granderson. Anybody else? Can he toss Wright too??

Ok it was Long. TBS had it wrong.

and repromoted on Tuesday

Tempted to bandwagon jump for the stretch run. 3 questions....

1) who do the mets consider their ace right now, Degrom or Harvey? I. Other words, who starts game 1 of a series if they can manipulate the rotation
2) I notice Matt Harvey's strike outs are down from past years doing a little research. Did his surgery take anything away from him? Is he compromised in any way from his injury?
3) I see the kid pitching today is 22 and has great stats. Is syndergaard considered a potential ace level prospect?
4) These are their big 3 going forward I assume right? Do they have a stud in the minors pitching wise?
5) do they have a stud position player in the minors?

Thanks in advance for any input

as the other three. And then, we'll have Wheeler coming back.

1.) Take your pick. deGrom is probably the better pitcher by a hair but Harvey starts game 1 in my book.

2.) Harvey's Ks are a bit down but he himself has said he only just got the feel for his slider back a few weeks ago. Its a Tommy John thing.

3.) Syndergaard(Thor) is an absolute stud and might be the best of the bunch within a year.

4.) Steven Matz is equally exciting and will be back in about a week. A power lefty from the left side with ACE potential. Zack Wheeler will also be back next year.

5.) We are LOADED in position player prospects. Conforto isn't playing today but is already on the team. He's our future LF and likely an all-star within a couple years.. Nimmo, Cecchini, Herrera, Plawecki, Rosario, Smith are players we are excited about on the way.

Welcome back!

Is not a major league player. Awful player

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and repromoted on Tuesday

I think he would still have to stay down the mandated 10 games or whatever. That was the issue with Dario Alvarez once they sent him down also.

All kinds of solid contact and little to show for it.

the gnats

after 2.

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the gnats

Beautiful.

Are they walking this scrub? Noah is rolling

The inning and not the pitcher. Dumb

One more question.... Is syndergaard considered a rookie of the year front runner or at least a serious candidate?

In comment 12443067 MarshallOnMontana said:

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One more question.... Is syndergaard considered a rookie of the year front runner or at least a serious candidate?

He's a serious candidate but not a front runner with guys like Bryant, Pederson, ect all in play.

Syndergaard is also getting close to his innings cap and might have to move to the BP in mid-late Sept which could also hurt his case slightly.

Now a behind the back catch on a shot up the middle that would have been a base hit.

One of those days.

So syndergaard is unlikely to be part of a playoff rotation because of his innings limit?

I would have said if everything stayed the same Syndergaard would have won it, but he's sort of had a rough few outings and the road/home splits are alarming even though I think its mostly nonsense.

They might skip him a couple times in September so he can pitch in the postseason or he might be used in the pen in the playoffs. Sandy said yesterday he doesn't want Matz or Syndergaard in the pen and even said the postseason would be "unlikely".

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At least that's what Cerrone reported about a week ago on Metsblog

I knew that shit was coming.

We just have not scored any fucking runs in this series.

Damnit!

In comment 12443080 MarshallOnMontana said:

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So syndergaard is unlikely to be part of a playoff rotation because of his innings limit?

They're going to need to skip him a couple times to keep within the vicinity where it's possible for him to be in the playoff rotation. The more likely scenario with Matz close to returning is that Matz rejoins the rotation and winds up part of the playoff 4 which would then be he deGrom, Harvey and Niese with Syndergaard going to the pen.

Still tentative but I think that's probably what we're looking at.

And boy.. I saw that HR coming. The bats better wake up soon otherwise we're going to get swept here.

4-2

Mets get men on base but don't score. Red Sox do nothing but then take the lead with a big hit.

You cant get swept at home by a last place team in a pennant race.

despise Ortiz so much and think he's cheating...an old man like Ortiz shouldn't turn on Syndergaard's 97-98 MPH fastball like that

Very, very frustrating.

He is at 151 innings right now.

..for it to even be a consideration. Probably 3 times. I just don't see how the math works out. I think he's going to the pen when Matz returns.

Fuck you Sox!

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This man can hit in the clutch.

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In comment 12443114 Vanzetti said:

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He is at 151 innings right now.

Its more than that. He had 134 last year and the Mets believe in the 30-50 rule. I would say 184 is more like his MAX.

I'd let Syndergaard bat and try to get one more inning out of him

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He said light hitting my ass

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has been a pain in the ass all damn series.

We really can't blow this game.

can hit and can run� I'm surprised they are in last place.

In comment 12443126 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 12443114 Vanzetti said: Quote: He is at 151 innings right now. Its more than that. He had 134 last year and the Mets believe in the 30-50 rule. I would say 184 is more like his MAX.

DePo has said in the past, 25-30 more innings than the guy pitched the previous year. That's what I was going by. But 180 sounds more reasonable

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can hit and can run� I'm surprised they are in last place.

They play in a tough division.

like a game 4 out of 7, or game 3 out of 5

This bullpen is turning into a massive problem

Fuck you. What the fuck was that?

In comment 12443166 arcarsenal said:

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This bullpen is turning into a massive problem

A pop up?

Everything seems to be going against us in this game.

Robles? Reed cant get here soon enough

The '62 Mets just showed up. Two fly ball doubles and some real heads up infield play ...heads up the arse.

Betts proved he can pull Robles and always tries to pull everything to begin with, so why was Cuddyer playing in left center

Not even sure why Robles is facing Betts to begin with.

owns Robles.. didnt he hit a homer off him yesterday?

This is turning into a nightmare weekend.

In comment 12443162 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 12443126 ZGiants98 said: Quote: In comment 12443114 Vanzetti said: Quote: He is at 151 innings right now. Its more than that. He had 134 last year and the Mets believe in the 30-50 rule. I would say 184 is more like his MAX. DePo has said in the past, 25-30 more innings than the guy pitched the previous year. That's what I was going by. But 180 sounds more reasonable

Ive heard Sandy say in an interview its more like 35-50. 25 would be insane. The rule of thumb is at least 30.

Clippard should have been brought in to begin with. Everyone knows how Robles struggles with the first batter.

Maybe he'll claim Clippard was not available.

After they get you the lead back, you can't immediately give the runs back

In comment 12443175 arcarsenal said:

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This is turning into a nightmare weekend.

Of course they did.

are good fuckin hitters and pesky on th e base paths

Yay.

In comment 12443179 Rflairr said:

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After they get you the lead back, you can't immediately give the runs back

Noah and Degrom both wilted late. But to be fair, he is out there in the blazing sun already over 100 pitches. I thought Recker made a mistake starting the pinch hitter with two off-speed pitches. Ahead 2-0, he was sitting on the fastball.

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the game was getting away a bit and he puts them out in front again

has become a huge part of this offense.. Hes no longer DOA

lately.

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Lets shut this fucking door.

this is what you like to see

Yesterday was the only real stinker.

Fuckin' Tejada

Easy to see where this one is going.

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Come on.

Ugh

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Let's shut this down

Familia! Boom.

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And the ballgame is over!

Damn the Red Sox have some pesky hitters. That felt like a playoff series. lol

had to have it.

Washington goes to St Louis for 3.

Is it possible for the mets pitchers to not give up homeruns every single game? JFC.

Cuddyer today. The man has been huge.

After the first two men got on he made so many clutch pitches to get out of that jam. He's our MVP and it isn't close. 0 runs allowed in August...are you kidding me.

righties against Philly even though Nola and Harang have been a pain in the ass. Get Lagares and Tejada out of the lineup and get Conforto, ect in it.

the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time.

the kind of bat you want coming off the bench in the playoffs. Johnson's been better over the last few games also. I'd feel like we had a shot with either of these guys. Considering one of Cuddyer/Conforto will also be on the bench depending on the game our bench will unreal.

In comment 12443341 PhiPsi125 said:

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the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time.

His ba is low, but he's hit 5 hr's and 5 doubles before today. I'm glad he can play second. He's not going to get many starts at third as long as Wright is healthy.

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In comment 12443341 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time. His ba is low, but he's hit 5 hr's and 5 doubles before today. I'm glad he can play second. He's not going to get many starts at third as long as Wright is healthy.

Been taking grounders at first too.

Robert Gsellman today in AA: 6IP, 6H, 3R, 1ER, 0BB, 2K. ERA down to 3.06 this season.

163 - 72 - 63 = 28

like the player we thought we signed.

Tim Britton @TimBritton
Started asking Shaw about Familia: "How nasty..." when Holt walked by, shook his head, and said, "Nastiest pitcher in the world."

Anthony DiComo
#Mets have optioned Logan Verrett to Las Vegas to make room for Reed. He should be back in 10 days with another spot start on the horizon.

is a little lesson for Mets fans. I know the lineup wasn't at full strength maybe because it wasn't playoffs, but basically you saw the top 3 Mets pitchers start against the last place team in the AL East (by a lot) and barely eke out 1 win.

playoff teams will be better than this, that should offset any comments about Wright sitting or Cespedes sitting or Harvey only going 6 when he could have been pushed another inning.

Hopefully Reed helps plug the hole in the bullpen but the offense also needs to be better too or the Mets success won't be as much as it should or could be this year.

The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway.

The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens.

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In comment 12443411 ZGiants98 said:

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The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway. The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens.

The concerns with the Mets were on display in the Red Sox series.

I don't think overall it was a bad series. Harvey, deGrom and Thor all pitched well. Like you'd expect.

I'm not antagonizing you, just saying this team has weaknesses and it's not a flawless team. In a series like this one the Mets should not be dominated by the opposing starters.

Verrett is returning in 10 days to spell Syndergaard?

In comment 12443411 ZGiants98 said:

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The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway. The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens.

Except, the Pirates didn't have a bad series. The Pirates were on a four game win streak and had already taken the first two games against the Rockies before dropping the last game today. Why would Pirates fans be worried? That's probably the worst example you could have used.

In comment 12443341 PhiPsi125 said:

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the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time.

I hope you're learning over there. Be quiet and sit still ...

In comment 12443443 Rory said:

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In comment 12443341 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time. I hope you're learning over there. Be quiet and sit still ...

Get bent, dickhead. Go back to the hole you crawled out of. You add zero to these threads except increase the asshole quotient.

In comment 12443437 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 12443411 ZGiants98 said: Quote: The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway. The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens. The concerns with the Mets were on display in the Red Sox series. I don't think overall it was a bad series. Harvey, deGrom and Thor all pitched well. Like you'd expect. I'm not antagonizing you, just saying this team has weaknesses and it's not a flawless team. In a series like this one the Mets should not be dominated by the opposing starters.

There's no such thing as a flawless team. The Pirates have flaws, the Dodgers have flaws, and the Cardinals have flaws. Kelly has been undefeated for over a month. Layne has been pitching well too. And who said the Mets are winning the World Series anyway? I think we are talented as anyone, especially when healthy, but Ive also said I could easily see us wiped out in the first round. Facing Kershaw and Greinke in round one is not going to be a picnic. But once we have our foot in the door, who knows what happens.

The Red Sox pitchers weren't any great shakes. Kelly was okay but the other two were not good. They all were hitable. We just didn't hit. It happens. Hopefully they wake up because Washington isn't going away. I'm interested to see how they do against The Cards. That should tell us something.

facing the Mets. Prior that that he was pretty bad all year.

In comment 12443441 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12443411 ZGiants98 said: Quote: The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway. The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens. Except, the Pirates didn't have a bad series. The Pirates were on a four game win streak and had already taken the first two games against the Rockies before dropping the last game today. Why would Pirates fans be worried? That's probably the worst example you could have used.

And the Mets just won seven games on the road before Friday's game. What's your point?

I'm not going to bang on them too hard for losing two in a row. Sox have been playing good ball lately. Sucks they lost two winnable games. But shit happens sometimes...

In comment 12443441 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12443411 ZGiants98 said: Quote: The Red Sox have been playing well for the last month and have one of the top offenses in baseball since the all-star break. Combine that with some good young starting pitching and its not surprising this was a battle. If our pen hadn't been so burnt up we likely win Friday and take 2 of 3 anyway. The Rockies beat the Pirates today 5-0. Should Pirates fans be concerned? It happens. Except, the Pirates didn't have a bad series. The Pirates were on a four game win streak and had already taken the first two games against the Rockies before dropping the last game today. Why would Pirates fans be worried? That's probably the worst example you could have used.

Oh geezus I quickly looked at the box scores and saw that the best team in baseball since early May was dominated by the Rockies today. Thats a bad example? Your trying to tell me the Pirates were playing well prior so it doesn't matter? The Mets are 8-2 in their last ten games. I was just saying better teams lose to lesser teams every day. How about the Rays beating the Royals today? That work?

two of the best teams in baseball that have been doing its the last few seasons. The last two big moments in mets history were both collapses. And I don't have a feeling that the Nats will make it easy. Sorry I don't share your rosy optimism.

I was simply pointing out that a team on verge of being swept versus a team looking to sweep was probably a poor comparison. The Royals might be a better example but they are 13 games up so I doubt their fans are concerned about anything.

If the Phillies or Marlins are threatening to sweep this week Ill be on board with what your saying more but the Red Sox are a good young team thats ben playing good ball and who also just happens to have one of the best offenses in the game.

My rosy optimism? I think we are better than the Nats and likely win the division. No different than Dan, Arc, and many others have said. I also said we could lose in the first round so not sure where my rosy optimism exceeds the majority of people here.

a nice addition to the pen. Tuesday we get an influx of players to provide much needed rest to this roster. Just after that, we should be getting Duda and Matz back. We play the Phillies and the Nats play the Cards. Next week we take matters into our own hands against the Nats themselves. I feel pretty confident we can take 2 of 3 in that series and hammer the nail in the coffin then. We'll see but we are set up pretty nicely here.

Dan, Arc, and HH say that you all aren't concerned about the Nats at all. And that's completely fine. I think the far majority of fans are still concerned about the Nationals. They have won 96 and 98 games two of the last three years and they have the talent to go on a run. I've enjoyed the hell out of this race but not without trepidation. I've learned my lesson to not count my chickens too early. It's okay to have differing opinions. It's America, after all, lol.

And no offense on the rosy optimism comment. It just kinda your thing :)

he would be when he was drafted. It doesn't seem to have taken him very long. His OPS is .860 and the arrow is pointed up.

In comment 12443447 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12443443 Rory said: Quote: In comment 12443341 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: the Mets, but he has a knack for making me eat my words every time I question his playing time. I hope you're learning over there. Be quiet and sit still ... Get bent, dickhead. Go back to the hole you crawled out of. You add zero to these threads except increase the asshole quotient.

Lol disagree , an I guess not

And sure it can happen. My confidence stems from our roster and I genuinely feel it s abetter one than the Nats. I think some people still feel the Mets are over-performing and the Nats are underperforming and I no longer feel thats the case. Could we choke it away? Sure. Of course we could.

just going on a run to end the season. They have had a knack for doing that and they have the talent to do it. I don't think the mets are overachieving right now. They are beating up on the teams they should be. But I also think our BP has hit a bump. And some of our younger pitchers are tiring. But all teams run into that. I've just got that "look over your shoulder" feeling right now...but that's baseball, right?

And after 2007-2008 who can blame you? And anyone here who tells you they aren't looking at what the Nats are doing is lying. We are all scoreboard watching every day. Im confident we are the better team but that doesn't mean I am not watching the Nats closely as well.

We're all keeping one eye on the Nats.

The Mets were on a stretch where they were hitting something like .328 with RISP over several weeks. That isn't sustainable. The Red Sox series was the correction.

Fortunately, for the Mets they only likely need to split, whereas Nats might need to win 5 out of 6

Also have to figure Steven Matz and Erik Goeddel will return from from the DL, too.

#Mets will add Eric Campbell, Eric Young, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Kevin Plawecki on Tuesday when rosters expand.

Also have to figure Steven Matz, Erik Goeddel and Bobby Parnell will return from from the DL, too. (Kirk technically is on rehab with Vegas)

In comment 12443893 sphinx said:

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Also have to figure Steven Matz and Erik Goeddel will return from from the DL, too. #Mets will add Eric Campbell, Eric Young, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Kevin Plawecki on Tuesday when rosters expand.

I think Rubin was naming the position players. Dario Alvarez, for one, would almost assuredly be up as well.

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In Vic Black's last 4 outings, he has walked 7 batters, allowed 8 hits, surrendered 6 ER and recorded 6 outs.

Left-handed reliever Dario Alvarez also figures to rejoin the Mets soon. However, he will not be eligible to be promoted until Thursday because he has not spent the required 10 days in the minors since a demotion.

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