It's that time: Predict the Giants record in 2015

usual disclaimer

I typed 8-8...not all that other jibber jabber!!

Beckham dominates the playoffs and leads us to the SB Win.

At Dallas- Loss
vs Atlanta- Win
vs Redskins- Win
at Buffalo- Loss (OT)
vs 49ers- Win
at Philly MNF- You kidding me?
loss
vs Dallas- Win
at Saints- Loss
at Bucs- Loss
vs Pats- Loss
at Redskins- Win
Jets- Win
Dolphins- Loss
Panthers- Loss
Vikings- Win
Eagles- Win

10-6 but my head says 8-8 at best. Sigh. Here's hoping my heart wins out.

6-10

4-12. Great draft pick!

cleans our clock in opener, but we will get it together

8-8

maybe we get lucky in a few games like in 2011, if you rewatch those games we almost lost a couple of them

3-13 is more reality.

Blech

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Win WC.

At Dallas- Loss (I think our defense lets us down)
vs Atlanta- Loss (I think our defense lets us down..BBI implosion)
vs Redskins- Win
at Buffalo- Win
vs 49ers- Win
at Philly- Loss (Chip Kelly is proclaimed god...BBI implosion)
vs Dallas- Win
at Saints- Loss
at Bucs- Win
vs Pats- Win
at Redskins- Loss (BBI Implosion)
Jets- Loss (BBI Implosion)
Dolphins- Win
Panthers- Win
Vikings- Win
Eagles- Win (Bradford is on IR at this point and we win on a butt fumble to secure a wild card spot)

Gotta love that wishful thinking

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Damn back-to-back losses to Redskins and jets!!

the get go)

1 at Dallas L
2 Atlanta L
3 Washington W
4 at Buffalo L
5 San Francisco W
6 at Philadelphia L
7 Dallas L
8 at New Orleans W
9 at Tampa Bay W
10 New England L
12 at Washington W
13 NY Jets L
14 at Miami L
15 Carolina W
16 at Minnesota L
17 Philadelphia L

A lot of adjustments to get used to early on in season, plus dealing with injuries (if hit harder or Eli goes down, then less than 7 wins). By 11th week or so should result in some wins. Slow start and finish better.

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...heart is saying 9-7

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Sorry

I am starting to fear he is not going to contribute this year. If that is the case I say 5-11

Who are the three losses incurred from, Brett?

Ha

1 at Dallas L
2 Atlanta L
3 Washington W
4 at Buffalo L
5 San Francisco W
6 at Philadelphia L
7 Dallas W
8 at New Orleans L
9 at Tampa Bay W
10 New England L
12 at Washington W
13 NY Jets W
14 at Miami W
15 Carolina L
16 at Minnesota W
17 Philadelphia L

When the injury count rises and other players don't step up to fill the void, probably worse than 8-8.

5 - 11.

No clue if that gets us in the playoffs. Some years it's good enough, others you're not so lucky.

It's a backended 8-8 though, as they're eliminated for all intensive purposes by Thanksgiving.

But, it'll be seen as a step forward, so nothing will change for next season.

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Quit being a boner and participate without sarcasm or GTFO

In comment 12443597 Headhunter said:

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Lol I know coming from you..is bs'ing.

In comment 12443586 Route 9 in LEH said:

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Who are the three losses incurred from, Brett?

Patriots, Eagles (home), Cowboys (road).

Offense a bit better then last year,the defense worse and last year's wasn't very good.

better to be 4-12 then 7-9 or 6-10.

And still have doubts the organization is able to turn the chapter on this FO/Coaching Staff in the offseason

winning the division as us philly and dallas will beat up on each other

is between 5 wins at the lowest and 9 at the absolute best. More likely 6-7 wins. I would say at least we are still better than the Redskins but they honestly might finish a game or 2 ahead of us.

no defense and thin depth on the OL.

the point about Cruz is a good one. I get that theyre being careful but a month for a calf strain?

Slow start, like Coughlin teams in recent years, to multiple losses out of the gate while the team, particularly the defense and specials, gels.

Reese insists on holding on to some guys who should be cut, injuries mount, Beckham and Cruz and Donnell aren't sneaking up on anybody, and specials continue to give up more field position and TDs than they produce.

Includes 4 losses to Dallas and Phily, at least 3 losses to the AFC East (Buffalo is going to clean the GIANTS clock because they have outstanding defense and specials and can run the ball) and a mixed record against the rest of the NFC teams on the schedule.

Major housecleaning to follow the season.

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In comment 12443643 Red Dog said:

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Slow start, like Coughlin teams in recent years, to multiple losses out of the gate while the team, particularly the defense and specials, gels. Reese insists on holding on to some guys who should be cut, injuries mount, Beckham and Cruz and Donnell aren't sneaking up on anybody, and specials continue to give up more field position and TDs than they produce. Includes 4 losses to Dallas and Phily, at least 3 losses to the AFC East (Buffalo is going to clean the GIANTS clock because they have outstanding defense and specials and can run the ball) and a mixed record against the rest of the NFC teams on the schedule. Major housecleaning to follow the season.

You've been saying this annually since at least 2009..At least you're consistent my friend...:)

But 9-7 more realistic goal.

Independent minded GM of the year,

4 and 2 in division (beating Washington twice, splitting the others), and 5-5 against the rest.

Top 8 offense.

...6 wins written all over it.

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but with all the injuries, I'm thinking 7-9.
I'm actually quite surprised Stevie Brown didn't dislocate a shoulder in the baggage claim area in the airport.

I'm always wrong. Bet the over.

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9-7

6-10, if he gets hurt, 4-12 with one upset win over a good team.

Team lacks talent on defense and OL is still a question mark.

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And the usual get tough Johnny Boy after the season ends.

injuries, inconsistency in all three phases of the game, talent deficiencies on both lines.

we are not good enough to beat the cowboys and eagles, in fact I would say the gap is bigger than it's been in a long time - 4 losses right there. I believe we'll be 4-8 after 12 games and win 3 out of the last 4....spurring yet another offseason of purgatory.

I hope they prove me wrong

will come against:
Washington (twice), Buffalo, San Francisco NY Jets Minnesota and Carolina

House gets cleaned in off season

OBJ, Beason, JPP, Schwartz all on IR by week 4.

3-13.

Underestimate the power and impact of Beckham.

I'm bound to be right one of these years.

No better.

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the Monday Night Football game in Philly and the away game versus the New Orleans Saints will be dreadful to watch

with an awful defensive squad...

I think we start out uglier than we'd like - say 2-5, then get on a really nice run to be at 8-6 with a shot at the playoffs, falling just short at 9-7.

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No changes.

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Ill go with 8-8. Any more games missed between the two, then obviously it will be a lot lower.

8-8 will save Coughlin's job

Not a lot of confidence in the New York Giants on Big Blue Interactive in 2015. That defensive line looks like it's going to be the worst ever.

I just call 'em like I see 'em.

But I don't think I was anywhere near this pessimistic for 2012.

But my head says 11-5

...so I think there will be some improvement. Not much, but some. I see 8-8.

I just don't see this team beating Dallas or Philly.

would be one of the better years. Of course then it would have been only be 9 losses.

regime change.

Lombardi trophy. Coughlin retires. Goes out on top.

where do you see the talent that's going to lead to a great season? Which positions are above average? I can't see anything besides QB and possibly WR as being above league average. That's not enough.

This defense is really bad

Wins:

Washington
Atlanta
Jets
Niners
Carolina
Tampa

Any more starters lost for the season and we're talking worse, possibly much worse.

I don't think the team is even that good, but the combo of Eli and Beckham will get you to at least 6-10 IMO.

already talent-depleted roster? Quite the opposite.

6-10.

5-11.

NYG stinks.

In comment 12444051 chris r said:

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where do you see the talent that's going to lead to a great season? Which positions are above average? I can't see anything besides QB and possibly WR as being above league average. That's not enough.

With stability and Beatty coming back our OL projects to be better than league average. Our RB by committee could function similarly to deep Patriots group last year.

Our CBs are above league average. Believe it or not, a young S tandom of Taylor and Collins could actually prove to be a +, not a -. (given, also possible that it's a screaming weakness).

And after pumping so many resources into the group this offseasin, our ST better be better than league average.

If they're not. It shows everyone in the organization made the wrong bets.

In addition to unexpected contributions from young guys like Taylor, maybe Bromley or Edwards, Giants need luck and health. Two things in short supply recent seasons.

One thing for sure. September is the time to root for everybody that makes the team, even if their names are Kuhn and Hosley.

Go Giants!

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In comment 12444079 Curtis in VA said:

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already talent-depleted roster? Quite the opposite. 6-10.

Yeah, if you believed injuries were the culprit the past two years, you'd already be singing that song with the best defensive player out in addition to Beatty and the injuries at safety.

For reals, I think the team will be 8-8. I've said 8 to 10 wins for awhile, but thinking through the defense has me concerned the number will be lower.

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when we don't know if Schwartz and Cruz play; if Kuhn actually starts at DT; if there are safeties with two working legs; we get the good Eli of the bad Eli; if JPP has two functional hands; Will Beatty returns; the oline plays league average......

Too many question marks to be optimistic -

I do think the line is better than last year - Schwartz and Hart are better than Jerry.

If things go right - 9-7.
If things go wrong - 5-11

BTW - New Orleans is a mess and no Jimmy Graham - NO is no lock to beat the Giants.

I thought going into camp that they could get to 8-8 and finish strong, but they haven't shown me anything and on top of it the injuries continue to mount.

In comment 12444125 Victor in CT said:

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I thought going into camp that they could get to 8-8 and finish strong, but they haven't shown me anything and on top of it the injuries continue to mount.

Gee Victor, that may have been the least amount of injuries the Giants sustained in a pre-season (maybe reg season) game in a long time..

3-13

Mulligans?

Patchwork O-Line, no pass rushers, secondary has more guys on the IR than on the active roster, and for some reason Eli looks WORSE in the 2nd year of the offense.

I don't think they win 4 games this year. And you know the Redskins are gonna stomp the giants at least once, it seems mandatory when we play a backup QB.

3-13, clean house after the season. It was an amazing run, but the Coughlin/Eli era has sadly come to an end. Still worth every penny.

In comment 12443497 Route 9 in LEH said:

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At Dallas- Loss vs Atlanta- Win vs Redskins- Win at Buffalo- Loss (OT) vs 49ers- Win at Philly MNF- You kidding me? loss vs Dallas- Win at Saints- Loss at Bucs- Loss vs Pats- Loss at Redskins- Win Jets- Win Dolphins- Loss Panthers- Loss Vikings- Win Eagles- Win

4-2 in the division and we only go 8-8. So do we make the playoffs?

If Cruz is anything close to the Cruz of old the offense should be really entertaining. The defense will probably suck wind early and get better as the season progresses.

Ultimately...team health will have a large say in how the season goes. The Giants are due for a little luck in that department.

NYG history, but the D has the chance to be one of the worst. 7-9, and I'm not even feeling good about that.

4-12...eek.

At Dallas- Loss
vs Atlanta- Win
vs Redskins- Win
at Buffalo- Loss
vs 49ers- Loss
at Philly -loss
vs Dallas- Loss
at Saints- Loss
at Bucs- Win
vs Pats- Loss
at Redskins- Loss
Jets- Loss
At Dolphins- Loss
Panthers- Loss
At Vikings- Win
Eagles- Loss

Easy schedule.

start the season slow and come on towards the middle to late in the season....

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In comment 12444125 Victor in CT said: Quote: I thought going into camp that they could get to 8-8 and finish strong, but they haven't shown me anything and on top of it the injuries continue to mount. Gee Victor, that may have been the least amount of injuries the Giants sustained in a pre-season (maybe reg season) game in a long time..

FUNNY!!!! but I meant cumulatively

2016 will be better.

6-10 this year, with a porous defense wasting a fairly decent offensive performance.

We'll score about 400 points this season, but surrender close to 500.

Then we'll finally focus on our LB corps in the draft, which will help enormously next year.

Romo and Bradford both break their toes in week 7 helping the Giants get into the playoffs

as this defense looks scary bad with no JPP, no Beason, clueless at Safety and leaving Kuhn in at DT.

at pokes- Loss
vs atlanta- Win
vs redskins- Win
at buffalo- Win
vs 49ers- Win
at iggs -loss
vs pokes- Win
at saints- Loss
at bucs- Win
vs cheaters- Loss
at redskins- Win
vs jv- Win
at dolphins- Loss
vs panthers- Win
at vikings- Win
iggs- Loss

10-6 and the East by tiebreaker over the iggs and pokes since the only other NFC loss was to the saints.

Unless there are no injuries and the walking wounded come back.

I just don't see any improvement over last year. As much as i hate to say it, because i'm a big TC fan, i think we clean house at seasons end.

The offense manages to barely compensate for the atrocious defense. No playoffs.

My head says 7-9.

5 - 5 at the bye.

9-7 at the finish. A Wild Card berth depends on beating the Iggles in the Season Finale at MetLife.

...has predicted it, 1-15. In reality, I always expect all wins and no losses until the games are actually played.

Unfortunately. This is the most pessimistic I have been in many years. I just don't see the pass rush, safety issues and DB injuries in general, and OL being enough. The skill positions could be sick....

I think we are going to lose a lot of higher scoring games.

In comment 12444704 pa_giant_fan said:

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I just don't see any improvement over last year. As much as i hate to say it, because i'm a big TC fan, i think we clean house at seasons end.

I guess we'll maybe not show up for the last 2 ?

win nfc east. philly and dallas get destroyed by injuries for a change.

feels about right

sorry coach

In comment 12444704 pa_giant_fan said:

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I just don't see any improvement over last year. As much as i hate to say it, because i'm a big TC fan, i think we clean house at seasons end.

No improvement at all that we don't even show up for 2 games!!

and 7.

Always an optimist at the beginning of the season. :D

Best case seems 10-6. Worst case is 3-13. I just have no read of the team. Particularly the defense.

Offense figures to be better than last year, defense figures to be less bad.

The injured players were unlikely to be the difference in wins and losses; the addition of Spags and the continued exposure to McAdoo's system is. I see two potential problems with this season:

1) The kicking game feels stagnant to me. I read a blurb on Peter King's column that Weatherford may get beat out. I would welcome this.

2) How mature will Beckham be with an enormous target on his back? I'm less worried about the occasional penalty than I am with a potential loss of focus that leads to a lower quality of play. If Beckham is the same guy he was last year I believe this could be a contending team.

I hate to type that, but that's how I see it. I just don't see how we are much better than last year at all.

O-line will surprise, but defense has me worried. Having a hard time seeing how our defense has improved from last year.

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6-10 at best

maybe I'm wrong, but have a sneaky good feeling about this team

Is just not being realistic at all. It's hard to go 3-13 much like it's hard to go 13-3. Even the shittiest teams going can luck their way into 4-5 wins easy and the Giants are not that bad. The exaggerating and over the top negativity based on practice is crazy to me. I also think this team is better than last year's team and they won 6 games. Of course they could end up worse but I don't see it. I think this team will surprise based on the extremely dour predictions but how well they play is anyone's guess. We do need a lot of unknowns to shake out in a positive fashion. With that said I'll go 9-7. People will overstate how good a job coughlin does this season because I think there's more talent on this team than popular belief, especially offensively. But coughlin will get every ounce out of this team. It's what he's always done.

9-7 with a lot of ups and downs. My head says 8-8 but I'll go 9-7 just because my heart wants it. What's one more win...

Fuck setting expectations low. We need to start winning again and it not now then when exactly...ok we have safety problems...no one stops the pass anyway. And we have corners. 9-7.

I just don't think you have to field a very talented team In order to compete for a playoff spot. A strong passing game and maybe a little luck and timing can go a long way in today's NFL.

Great offense. Awful defense.

In comment 12445110 Deej said:

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Best case seems 10-6. Worst case is 3-13. I just have no read of the team. Particularly the defense.

This is how I felt last year, but this year I'm less confident. Even when JPP was underperforming, his sheer presence allowed others players to move with more room.

If he's not on the field for a significant portion of this season (or not at all), then I don't see how the other pass rushers are going to have success.

5-11. No apology necessary. It's gonna be a stinker. More holes and problems than last year. Already finding out that it wasn't Fewell's defensive scheme that was the problem as the results are the same so far with Spags. Problem is lack of talent pretty much everywhere.
Talented players like Cruz, Pierre-Paul, Beason and Schwartz all hurt. Fill ins are either too inexperienced or lacking in talent. Team has no real leader and they badly need one. Manning looks like crap so far. Time for Nassib IMO. He makes things happen and has leadership qualities too. Dump Manning for a couple of defensive players and draft picks now while the value is still there.
May be rearranging the sock drawer often on Sundays this fall.

The Giants have improved the Oline, they get Cruz back for at least half the games, they have Vereen and Harris as new weapons -

The Giants D is porous but more aggressive - Linebackers stand out and give terrific support - Selvie and Ayres play strong for 9 games Owa and Moore excel in spots - the Tackles are up and down -- the CBs are good for ⅔ the season (11 games) -- the safeties are going to set better after the first third - (11 games)

Beatty and JPP enter the second half of the season and give the team a boost games 9-16

They can't keep up with the Eagles on Offense - so they're screwed in game 6 -- but Bradford is injured by the last game and we pull out the win

They continue to flounder in the first 2 games but wake up and turn it around during game time for surge against the Redskins

and then surprise Buffalo - commencing a winning streak till they hit the surging Eagles

The Eagles game possess everyone off and they take it out on the Cowboys
The Saints are hapless and worse than the Giants
The Bucs QB is wearing out by the time 9 and the Giants start surging with Beatty and JPP entering the line up - Cruz starts coming on strong
They shock the Pats as they go on a Roll
Jets and Dolphins Defense plays them strong - close games but they get edged out and again pissed off the Giants go on a run
Panthers are in trouble - it's a win
Vikings are swept away
Eagles are limping to the finish line and get toasted


At Cowboys- Loss
vs Falcons- Loss
vs Redskins- Win
at Buffalo- Win
vs 9ers- Win
at Eagles -loss
vs Cowboys- Win
at Saints- Win
at Bucs- Win
vs Pats- Win
at Redskins- Win
vs Jets- Loss
At Dolphins- Loss
vs Panthers- Win
At Vikings- Win
vs Eagles- Win

That's my story and I'm sticking to it

GO GiantS!!
YeaH BabY!!!

You already know that this defense and Spags system will fail? Based on preseason? Might wanna wait a little longer.

I remember the Eagles getting killed here and everywhere heading into the 2013 season. Remember Dallas getting killed last summer. Doesn't mean the Giants will kick ass but young teams can surprise people and then hang around for a while. The Giants don't have the household names, especially defensively but this time next year many of those unknowns could emerge into household names. Kennard, Wynn, Odi, even Hankins who is already damn good could be even better, Moore, maybe Thomas or cassilas, Collins...

I get the concerns but i really don't think the cupboard is bare like so many seem to think. Plenty of unknowns but there's talent to be tapped into here. This isn't an old stale defense that lacks talent. It's just raw and somewhat unproven. What if they develop? Outside of Collins these aren't rookies these are 2nd and 3rd and 4th year players here. That's a good thing.

but my head says 5-11 and Mara cleans house.

Coughlin retires

People really discount what a stable coaching staff and QB can do for a team. Coughlin has done his best work with young unproven on the bubble teams. Look at his career.

Maybe I'm nuts but I see a team with potential here. It's raw and untested with some depth issues but every team has holes now. We have to just do one thing well enough to cover up some warts. Hello Eli, beckham, vereen, Cruz and Randle.

In comment 12446083 gidiefor said:

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The Giants have improved the Oline, they get Cruz back for at least half the games, they have Vereen and Harris as new weapons - The Giants D is porous but more aggressive - Linebackers stand out and give terrific support - Selvie and Ayres play strong for 9 games Owa and Moore excel in spots - the Tackles are up and down -- the CBs are good for ⅔ the season (11 games) -- the safeties are going to set better after the first third - (11 games) Beatty and JPP enter the second half of the season and give the team a boost games 9-16 They can't keep up with the Eagles on Offense - so they're screwed in game 6 -- but Bradford is injured by the last game and we pull out the win They continue to flounder in the first 2 games but wake up and turn it around during game time for surge against the Redskins and then surprise Buffalo - commencing a winning streak till they hit the surging Eagles The Eagles game possess everyone off and they take it out on the Cowboys The Saints are hapless and worse than the Giants The Bucs QB is wearing out by the time 9 and the Giants start surging with Beatty and JPP entering the line up - Cruz starts coming on strong They shock the Pats as they go on a Roll Jets and Dolphins Defense plays them strong - close games but they get edged out and again pissed off the Giants go on a run Panthers are in trouble - it's a win Vikings are swept away Eagles are limping to the finish line and get toasted At Cowboys- Loss vs Falcons- Loss vs Redskins- Win at Buffalo- Win vs 9ers- Win at Eagles -loss vs Cowboys- Win at Saints- Win at Bucs- Win vs Pats- Win at Redskins- Win vs Jets- Loss At Dolphins- Loss vs Panthers- Win At Vikings- Win vs Eagles- Win That's my story and I'm sticking to it GO GiantS!! YeaH BabY!!!

There's how you do it! With write ups!!!

At least it would be an improvement from last season

I believe 7-9

Top ten offense carries us back to the playoffs.

We will tie Tampa...

Coughlin and Reese are let go. McAdoo is made HC because there isn't the time for Eli to burn another year or two learning a new system.

Beatty and Beason are let go.

Draft a RT. Then LB. Unless Cruz is toast so need a WR2. JPP doesn't re-sign, and/or no other DE's steps up, then they'll need 1-2 DE.

Then the depth at all spots needs to be addressed. Especially with Jennings and DRC hitting 30. Need to find guys that will be their replacements. Along with LB and depth on both lines. They'll just plug in more journeymen to TE with all those needs.