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arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:07 am
Had my 10 team draft last night (.5 PPR)... I made one mistake which was that I had planned on taking Olsen in the 5th rd and when it came along, I lost track and thought I had one more round before I had to take him. He and Bennett went right before my next pick so I had to wait on TE at that point. Decided to take a flyer on Gates and then take Ladarius Green along with him near the end. I'll scoop someone else for depth but I wouldn't be surprised if Green made some plays before Gates gets back. I might be ok.

Anyway.. here's my team.

QB: Brady, Bradford
RB: Lacy, Ingram, Abdullah, Vereen, Gray
WR: Jones, Cobb, Landry, Allen Robinson, Funchess
TE: Gates, Green
K: Bailey
D/ST: Denver

Absolutely love the WR's I came away with.. I couldn't take Jones fast enough when he fell to my 2nd pick then then Cobb fell to my 3rd. I know he banged up his shoulder but he should be good to go Week 1. The value was way too good to pass up.

Thoughts?
hers is mine.  
superspynyg : 8/31/2015 8:23 am : link
Ok I my first draft last night. 12 team, 1 point PPR. Start 2rb,2wr,1 flex. Pick #8. I took some chances later on.

Qb Ryan
RB Ingram, Morris, Blount, Sproles, Gray
Wr Jones, AJ Green, Allen Robinson, Cruz
TE Ertz, Gates, Miller
K Tucker
Def Buffalo

I have 3 te only because I am not sure that Ertz will be back week 1. if he is I will prob drop him for Michael Floyd or Charles Sims. Rbs go fast as most of the backups are gone. I looked at most of the other teams and they are all comparable.

I deleted the other thread.
Not big on those RB's in full PPR..  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:29 am : link
I like Ingram this year but not as an RB1.. Morris and Blount are barely going to see any targets and I question how much of a role Sproles will even have in Philly this year.

Pretty strong WR's, though. And I like Ryan this year.. mostly because I think Jones is going to be a savage.
Arc  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 8:30 am : link
did you go lacy over lynch?

The one small thing if I had a gripe is that you have a rb/wr from the same team. I know they are two absolute studs and more often than not will perform.... but if the Packers have a shitty week - it kills you. But getting the players you did seems like a no brainer team to roll with.

Bradford should be good until he gets hurt or teams catch up with him.
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GP : 8/31/2015 8:30 am : link
arc, when did you draft? I think you did really well. I draft 5th in a 10 team 0.5 PPR on Friday, and would be pretty happy with that takeaway myself.
RE: Arc  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:34 am : link
In comment 12444117 dep026 said:
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did you go lacy over lynch?

The one small thing if I had a gripe is that you have a rb/wr from the same team. I know they are two absolute studs and more often than not will perform.... but if the Packers have a shitty week - it kills you. But getting the players you did seems like a no brainer team to roll with.

Bradford should be good until he gets hurt or teams catch up with him.


Lynch went 2nd actually. I had 5th pick and the first 4 teams went RB so Lacy was my guy.. which is fine, I think Lacy is going to have a great year. Especially with Jordy out. They'll probably lean on him a little more.

I didn't love having 2 from the same team either but at pick 25, Cobb was just way too hard to pass up. Without Jordy he's going to be a legit WR1 and pairing that with Jones was a no brainer for me.
RE: ...  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:36 am : link
In comment 12444121 GP said:
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arc, when did you draft? I think you did really well. I draft 5th in a 10 team 0.5 PPR on Friday, and would be pretty happy with that takeaway myself.


Thanks... same exact thing as you. Had 5th pick. 10 team .5 PPR. So you should have a shot at a similar team.
I'm also very high on Jarvis Landry this year,  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:37 am : link
Was thrilled to come away with him as a WR3. He seems to be Tannehill's guy and I think this could be a breakout year for him
I like Arcs team.  
superspynyg : 8/31/2015 8:37 am : link
But in a 10 team league its easy to get a more rounded team. I was going to select Forte in rd 2 before the ass in front of me took him. Green will have a 1100 yr 9-10 td season. Ingram I think will be solid, plus I think Sproles will have a good year in Philly especially if Murray gets injured.
I like that team a lot Arc  
knicks3031 : 8/31/2015 8:40 am : link
I just made a move to get Landry in another league. Love those WRs
Posted in the 8/30 thread this morning so I'll put it here  
knicks3031 : 8/31/2015 8:42 am : link
Had my first draft last night - 2 keepers, .5 ppr, I picked 11th.

The draft unfolded differently than I imagined with a ton of RBs going in the first 2 rounds, even to teams that had 2 RBs as keepers. I didn't want to reach for RBs so I think that's where I'm weakest..

Luck (5th keeper)
Cam Newton

Calvin
Cooks (8th keeper)
Wright
Cruz
Markus Wheaton

Yeldon
Randle
Vereen
Reggie Bush
Helu

Gronk
arc... Solid squad, man... As you know, the TE position could be  
Saos1n : 8/31/2015 8:42 am : link
Worrisome...

I would be curious to know if Richard Rodgers TE Green Bay Packers is available...

With the injury to Nelson, RR could benefit quite a bit...

I had a draft last night... 12 team PPR... 5th pick...

QB
Philip Rivers
Sam Bradford

RB
Jamaal Charles
Ameer Abdullah
CJ Spiller
Darren McFadden
Danny Woodhead

WR
Calvin Johnson
Mike Evans
Brandon Marshall
Eddie Royal
Jeff Janis

TE
Travis Kelce
Antonio Gates

Kicker
Cody Parkey

Defense
Rams
RB risers  
Mr Brightside : 8/31/2015 8:46 am : link
would you guys rather draft Ivory or Doug Martin?
I like it Arc  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 8:48 am : link
you were fortunate to get those WR's. I had pick 2 in a 10 team non ppr yesterday and here is my team:

QB: Luck, Bridgewater
RB: Charles, Hyde, Gurley, T. Coleman
WR: Matthews, A. Johnson, K. Allen, Ch. Johnson, Boldin
TE: Rudolph
D/ST: AZ
K: Tucker

Hate the 2nd pick, but I think the team has some potential, no stud WR except Matthews, but should be solid contributors if healthy.
knicks...  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:55 am : link
The question marks are at RB, obviously.. I love Yeldon's upside just have to see it translate. Randle's value will clearly depend on usage. If those guys pan out, you'll have a really good team.

Saos.. someone actually grabbed Rodgers right at the end. I forgot to list Matt Jones.. I took him with my last pick. Redskin RB who has gone off this preseason. Available TE's right now are Davis, both New Orleans TE's (Hill and Watson.. actually sounds like Watson is the starter).. Clay, Jordan Reed and Heath Miller.

pj.. I like that team. Really like Charles Johnson this year. As a WR4 he could well outperform that.

Brightside.. tough call, I'd probably give the slightest of edges to Martin. The Jets seem to have a lot of guys in that backfield. not sure how they're going to really use them
Had my draft the other night  
Kevin in CT : 8/31/2015 11:03 am : link
10 team with standard scoring.

QB: Tony Romo and Teddy Bridgewater

RB: Melvin Gordon, Chris Ivory, Latavius Murray, Arian Foster, and Blue

WR: Dez Bryant, Calvin Johnson, Allen Robinson, Brandin Cooks, and Brian Quick

TE: Delanie Walker

Def: Arizona

K: McManus

I like my draft but don't love it, yet. I'm not a huge fan of the tight end situation and I'm 50/50 on the running backs. I am glad I went WR/WR to start.
Had my draft yesterday  
bc0312 : 8/31/2015 11:09 am : link
10 team PPR, superflex (QB in 2nd flex spot), and 1 keeper

QB: Romo, Newton
RB: AP, Gore, Hyde,Joique Bell, Duke Johnson
WR: OBJ (keeper), Dez, Marshall, Maclin, Wheaton, Stevie Johnson, Jordy Nelson (15th round for keeper in 2016)
TE: Dwayne Allen, Julius Thomas
Lacy at 5 is a steal - I had the 1st pick and I was down to him & AP  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2015 11:35 am : link
ended up going AP just because of his upside. Minnesota offense should be much better with Bridgewater, Turner knows how to use playmakers and he should be fresh/brooding after a year off. I love Lacy though. Could be the top red zone option and 2nd or 3rd in receiving targets on a top offense. I'm in a 14 team league so Bell's suspension was a deal breaker since there's not enough depth out there to easily replace him. Lynch would be 4th for me since he's relatively safe, though I could see Seattle playing from ahead less and Graham getting some of his red zone action. Charles seemed the most risky to me.
I'm doing a 14 team PPR with  
beatrixkiddo : 8/31/2015 12:01 pm : link
my co-workers this year, and its a 1 player keeper.

I am holding onto T.Y Hilton for a 5th.

I also have the 6th pick in the draft. However, with most people forfeiting #1 picks, my first pick is really the 3rd and my second is the 14th.

I'm kind of torn of who I should grab. Top 3 available players are Lacy, Bryant and Gronk. I never feel comfortable grabbing a TE early. I was leaning on C.J Anderson or A.J Green (as he's the best WR available unless Bryant falls in my lap).

I think C.J might be the best player at 1, however there is a significant cut off at WR and it looks like I may only be able to grab a Hopkins or Cooks in the second if I go with him.

If I go WR, it looks like I'll have good options at RB in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, like a Miller and Stewart around my picks.

What say you all? Never done fantasy with so many teams, and haven't done PPR either. What would you do?
I am jealous you many of you guys had your draft already  
nygiants16 : 8/31/2015 12:03 pm : link
Both of my leagues are not until This weekend and i am getting antsy to just get them over with...

RE: I am jealous you many of you guys had your draft already  
Milton : 8/31/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12444675 nygiants16 said:
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Both of my leagues are not until This weekend and i am getting antsy to just get them over with...
Same here. The more time I have to think about it, the more I change my mind. I have the 2nd pick in a 12-team PPR league and my short list is getting longer rather than shorter as the days pass. On top of that, the league is a mix of experienced players with inexperienced players, so it's impossible to predict how it will unfold.
RE: Lacy at 5 is a steal - I had the 1st pick and I was down to him & AP  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 12:18 pm : link
In comment 12444570 Eric on Li said:
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ended up going AP just because of his upside. Minnesota offense should be much better with Bridgewater, Turner knows how to use playmakers and he should be fresh/brooding after a year off. I love Lacy though. Could be the top red zone option and 2nd or 3rd in receiving targets on a top offense. I'm in a 14 team league so Bell's suspension was a deal breaker since there's not enough depth out there to easily replace him. Lynch would be 4th for me since he's relatively safe, though I could see Seattle playing from ahead less and Graham getting some of his red zone action. Charles seemed the most risky to me.


I agree. I was happy Lacy was the guy who fell to me. I think he will have a huge year. To get Lacy as a RB1 and then have my pick of the litter at WR before the other 4 guys who went RB before me was big. Couldn't believe I got Jones. 2 picks before me, Bryant, Jones, Hill and Megatron were all still there and I was assuming I'd have to choose between Hill, who's value may have been too good to pass up at 16 overall or Megatron who I was assuming I'd take there from the start because of fit and value.

When the picks were Bryant and Hill, I couldn't take Jones fast enough. If he plays 16 games he could easily be the best WR in fantasy this year.
yeah thats my problem  
nygiants16 : 8/31/2015 12:18 pm : link
my boards is pretty much set and now i am second guessing it and going back over and changing things and doing more mocks...

.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 12:22 pm : link
I have to switch gears now and spend my next 2 nights coming up with my ideal strategy for my 12 team PPR which drafts on Wednesday.

I felt really good going into my 10 team. Much more uncertain about my 12 (4th pick)
No matter how much research i do  
nygiants16 : 8/31/2015 12:27 pm : link
i am never confident going into my 12 team league...

Always confident going into my 10 team league...

RE: hers is mine.  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 12:29 pm : link
In comment 12444108 superspynyg said:
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Ok I my first draft last night. 12 team, 1 point PPR. Start 2rb,2wr,1 flex. Pick #8. I took some chances later on.

Qb Ryan
RB Ingram, Morris, Blount, Sproles, Gray
Wr Jones, AJ Green, Allen Robinson, Cruz
TE Ertz, Gates, Miller
K Tucker
Def Buffalo

I have 3 te only because I am not sure that Ertz will be back week 1. if he is I will prob drop him for Michael Floyd or Charles Sims. Rbs go fast as most of the backups are gone. I looked at most of the other teams and they are all comparable.

I deleted the other thread.


I liked this a ton, until I read PPR, then I still liked it. Not a bad strategy going with the 3rd TE over backup QB. There was probably trash left for you. In a 14 team league I have Stafford as my QB and had to grab Mariotta as my backup... it was a throw away last round pick.
Wasn't sure how I felt about my team  
Bramton1 : 8/31/2015 12:29 pm : link
Drafted on NFL.com. Liked my team, but wasn't sure if was nuts about my team. Then I got an email from NFL.com Scout telling me I had a draft grade of A, and am predicted for a 11-1 record. OK, I'll take that.

QB: Brady, Bridgewater
RB: Lacy, Forsett, Vereen, Woodhead, Turbin
WR: Jeffery, Edelman, T. Smith, Crabtree, Floyd
TE: Kelce, Miller
K: Brown
DEF: Patriots
4th pick in my 12 team  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 12:30 pm : link
ppr was Jamal Charles.

just as a real world data point, the team picking 4th wound up with. I Like his team, but I think he over-drafted Foster a little. He thinks Foster is out as few as 2 weeks. He's already dropped Ridley (for Marvin Jones) and Doug Baldwin (for Ray Rice):

1. (4) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (21) Lamar Miller (Mia - RB)
3. (28) Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)
4. (45) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
5. (52) Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
6. (69) Allen Robinson (Jax - WR)
7. (76) Charles Johnson (Min - WR)
8. (93) Tre Mason (StL - RB)
9. (100) Markus Wheaton (Pit - WR)
10. (117) Joique Bell (Det - RB)
11. (124) Kendall Wright (Ten - WR)
12. (141) Brian Quick (StL - WR)
13. (148) Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
14. (165) Green Bay (GB - DEF)
15. (172) Randy Bullock (Hou - K)
16. (189) Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
17. (196) Stevan Ridley (NYJ - RB)
RE: 4th pick in my 12 team  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 12:33 pm : link
In comment 12444746 pjcas18 said:
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ppr was Jamal Charles.

just as a real world data point, the team picking 4th wound up with. I Like his team, but I think he over-drafted Foster a little. He thinks Foster is out as few as 2 weeks. He's already dropped Ridley (for Marvin Jones) and Doug Baldwin (for Ray Rice):

1. (4) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (21) Lamar Miller (Mia - RB)
3. (28) Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)
4. (45) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
5. (52) Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
6. (69) Allen Robinson (Jax - WR)
7. (76) Charles Johnson (Min - WR)
8. (93) Tre Mason (StL - RB)
9. (100) Markus Wheaton (Pit - WR)
10. (117) Joique Bell (Det - RB)
11. (124) Kendall Wright (Ten - WR)
12. (141) Brian Quick (StL - WR)
13. (148) Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
14. (165) Green Bay (GB - DEF)
15. (172) Randy Bullock (Hou - K)
16. (189) Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
17. (196) Stevan Ridley (NYJ - RB)


I'm staying away from Jamal Charles this year. He is almost guaranteed to get injured and potentially cost you a game or two. However, if he stays healthy and Foster comes back strong and early thats a solid 1-2 punch. Receiver spot is lacking there. There must have been a run on QBs in that draft if you grabbed Big Ben that early or you just believe in him more than me. I haven't done much PPR, so maybe someone will have a better opinion.
Last night, 10 team standard, picked 4th:  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 12:35 pm : link
1. Eddie Lacy, RB
2. Odell Beckham, WR
3. Julio Jones, WR
4. Amer Abdullah, RB
5. Alfred Blue, RB
6. Devante Adams, WR
7. Stafford, QB
8. CJ Spiller, RB
9. Arian Foster, RB
10. Larry Fitzgerald, WR
11. Victor Cruz, WR
12. Broncos, D/ST
13. Eli Manning, QB
14. Dwayne Allen, TE

NFL.com gives me an A+ and predicts I finish first 13-1 lol. I give it a B+.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 12:38 pm : link
I never really understood the Jamaal Charles "always hurt" or "injury prone" stigma.

Aside from 2011 when he tore his ACL, he hasn't missed any more than 1 game in any other season he's been in the league.

I would have no hesitation taking him in the top 5 this year.
RE: 4th pick in my 12 team  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 12:41 pm : link
In comment 12444746 pjcas18 said:
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ppr was Jamal Charles.

just as a real world data point, the team picking 4th wound up with. I Like his team, but I think he over-drafted Foster a little. He thinks Foster is out as few as 2 weeks. He's already dropped Ridley (for Marvin Jones) and Doug Baldwin (for Ray Rice):

1. (4) Jamaal Charles (KC - RB)
2. (21) Lamar Miller (Mia - RB)
3. (28) Brandin Cooks (NO - WR)
4. (45) Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
5. (52) Arian Foster (Hou - RB)
6. (69) Allen Robinson (Jax - WR)
7. (76) Charles Johnson (Min - WR)
8. (93) Tre Mason (StL - RB)
9. (100) Markus Wheaton (Pit - WR)
10. (117) Joique Bell (Det - RB)
11. (124) Kendall Wright (Ten - WR)
12. (141) Brian Quick (StL - WR)
13. (148) Andy Dalton (Cin - QB)
14. (165) Green Bay (GB - DEF)
15. (172) Randy Bullock (Hou - K)
16. (189) Doug Baldwin (Sea - WR)
17. (196) Stevan Ridley (NYJ - RB)


Not bad. I really want to come away with Cooks this year. I think I can get him with my 2nd pick if I go RB first. He won't be there in the 3rd rd of my draft like he was for this guy. I'd be hoping to get Gore as an RB2 if possible.
RE: .  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 12:45 pm : link
In comment 12444768 arcarsenal said:
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I never really understood the Jamaal Charles "always hurt" or "injury prone" stigma.

Aside from 2011 when he tore his ACL, he hasn't missed any more than 1 game in any other season he's been in the league.

I would have no hesitation taking him in the top 5 this year.


Looking at his stats again I guess you are right. I drafted him the first last year though and he had a terrible first game and left the second game early with an injury. That just kinda left a bad taste in my mouth moving forward...
RE: Last night, 10 team standard, picked 4th:  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 12:46 pm : link
In comment 12444760 giantgiantfan said:
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1. Eddie Lacy, RB
2. Odell Beckham, WR
3. Julio Jones, WR
4. Amer Abdullah, RB
5. Alfred Blue, RB
6. Devante Adams, WR
7. Stafford, QB
8. CJ Spiller, RB
9. Arian Foster, RB
10. Larry Fitzgerald, WR
11. Victor Cruz, WR
12. Broncos, D/ST
13. Eli Manning, QB
14. Dwayne Allen, TE

NFL.com gives me an A+ and predicts I finish first 13-1 lol. I give it a B+.


I almost never comment on drafts that unfold like this, but you picked Lacy 4th makes sense, and then Beckham was there at 21? And Julio Jones at 28?

Both Jones and Beckham went in the first or early second round of every draft I've seen.

You got very lucky.

Here is round 1 from the draft I posted above.

Round 1
1. Le'Veon Bell (Pit - RB) Killa Beagles
2. Eddie Lacy (GB - RB) Rico's Team
3. Adrian Peterson (Min - RB) Project Mayhem
4. Jamaal Charles (KC - RB) The Replacem...
5. Marshawn Lynch (Sea - RB) Capital Puni...
6. Dez Bryant (Dal - WR) Final DEZ-ti...
7. Antonio Brown (Pit - WR) nicholas's O...
8. Matt Forte (Chi - RB) Young Guru
9. Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR) Deflate Deez...
10. Julio Jones (Atl - WR) Matt's team
11. C.J. Anderson (Den - RB) pjcas18's Ne...
12. DeMarco Murray (Phi - RB) Ed's Bitch
sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 12:48 pm : link
in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.
RE: sorry  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 1:09 pm : link
In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:
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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.


I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.
I don't even feel like  
santacruzom : 8/31/2015 1:12 pm : link
I have that strong a team, but in my 14 team league (never drafting for one of those again!), my draft was rated highest.

QB: Tannehill, Ryan
RB: Who cares, who cares, who cares (Ingram, Coleman, Helu Jr)
WR: Antonio Brown, Brandin Cooks, Eric Decker, Cruz, Marvin Jones
TE: Kelce, Ertz
K: I don't know
Def: Philly
RE: RE: sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:13 pm : link
In comment 12444846 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:


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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.

That means Lacy at 3, Beckham at 18, and Julio Jones at 23.

you should do well with that team.

And Stafford went in the 7th round, but Eli in the 13th?

Eli in the 13th is a steal.

Your RB's after Lacy need some luck, but that top 3 is as good as it gets for top 3.




I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.
RE: RE: sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:14 pm : link
In comment 12444846 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:


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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.




I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.



sorry for the formatting: That means Lacy at 3, Beckham at 18, and Julio Jones at 23.

you should do well with that team.

And Stafford went in the 7th round, but Eli in the 13th?

Eli in the 13th is a steal.

Your RB's after Lacy need some luck, but that top 3 is as good as it gets for top 3.
RE: RE: sorry  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 1:15 pm : link
In comment 12444846 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:


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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.



I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.


Here is how it unfolded, there were some dumb people throwing money away in this draft.

1. Jamal Charles
2. AP
3. Eddie Lacy (me)
4. Le'Veon Bell
5. Marshawn Lynch
6. Matt Forte
7. Antonion Brown
8. Dez bryant
9. Aaron Rodgers
10. Lesean MocCoy
11. CJ Anderson
12. Demarco Murray
13. Andrew Luck
14. Jeremy Hill
15. Calvin Johnson
16. Gronk
17. Jimmy Graham
18. Odell (me)
19. Demaryius Thomas
20. TY Hilton
21. Justin Forsett
22. Mark Ingram
23. Julio Jones (me)
Don't expect..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/31/2015 1:17 pm : link
much out of Funchess. The Panthers already are questioning his work ethic and he's not showed much in practice to get them excited.
one thing I managed to do this year  
santacruzom : 8/31/2015 1:19 pm : link
simply by chance is stock my team up with a bunch of good players who share a bye week. It means I'll likely lose that particular week, but then be almost fully stocked the rest of the year.
RE: RE: RE: sorry  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:24 pm : link
In comment 12444865 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444846 giantgiantfan said:


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In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:


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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.



I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.



Here is how it unfolded, there were some dumb people throwing money away in this draft.

1. Jamal Charles
2. AP
3. Eddie Lacy (me)
4. Le'Veon Bell
5. Marshawn Lynch
6. Matt Forte
7. Antonion Brown
8. Dez bryant
9. Aaron Rodgers
10. Lesean MocCoy
11. CJ Anderson
12. Demarco Murray
13. Andrew Luck
14. Jeremy Hill
15. Calvin Johnson
16. Gronk
17. Jimmy Graham
18. Odell (me)
19. Demaryius Thomas
20. TY Hilton
21. Justin Forsett
22. Mark Ingram
23. Julio Jones (me)


Nice, I think it will work out for you. Or it's also possible Beckham is overrated by us Giants fans (though I don't think so) or that Julio Jones "relaxes" after the contract extension, and I don't think that happens either.
RE: Don't expect..  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12444868 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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much out of Funchess. The Panthers already are questioning his work ethic and he's not showed much in practice to get them excited.


He's my 5th WR so it was really me taking a flier on him more than anything else. I still think he's going to have value based on the sole fact that they really have very little else at WR without Kelvin. I have four guys ahead of him who are the top targets on their teams (Jones, Cobb, Landry, Robinson) so Funchess is really only going to be used if I have bye week problems or a couple of my other guys get hurt.

WR talent always seems to pop up mid-season anyway.
RE: RE: RE: RE: sorry  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12444882 pjcas18 said:
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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.



I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.



Here is how it unfolded, there were some dumb people throwing money away in this draft.

1. Jamal Charles
2. AP
3. Eddie Lacy (me)
4. Le'Veon Bell
5. Marshawn Lynch
6. Matt Forte
7. Antonion Brown
8. Dez bryant
9. Aaron Rodgers
10. Lesean MocCoy
11. CJ Anderson
12. Demarco Murray
13. Andrew Luck
14. Jeremy Hill
15. Calvin Johnson
16. Gronk
17. Jimmy Graham
18. Odell (me)
19. Demaryius Thomas
20. TY Hilton
21. Justin Forsett
22. Mark Ingram
23. Julio Jones (me)



Nice, I think it will work out for you. Or it's also possible Beckham is overrated by us Giants fans (though I don't think so) or that Julio Jones "relaxes" after the contract extension, and I don't think that happens either.


It could, but lets be honest here. Leagues are really won on the waiver wire. I won last year because I was able to grab CJ Anderson, Mark Ingram, and Odell off waivers and added that to a team with Andrew Luck and Dez Bryant. Gotta find this years CJ Anderson and Odell on the waivers.
RE: RE: RE: sorry  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 1:32 pm : link
In comment 12444865 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444846 giantgiantfan said:


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In comment 12444794 pjcas18 said:


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in 10 team that would be Lacy at 4, Beckham at 17, and Julio Jones at 24.

Still very lucky.



I typo'd, I picked 3rd actually.



Here is how it unfolded, there were some dumb people throwing money away in this draft.

1. Jamal Charles
2. AP
3. Eddie Lacy (me)
4. Le'Veon Bell
5. Marshawn Lynch
6. Matt Forte
7. Antonion Brown
8. Dez bryant
9. Aaron Rodgers
10. Lesean MocCoy
11. CJ Anderson
12. Demarco Murray
13. Andrew Luck
14. Jeremy Hill
15. Calvin Johnson
16. Gronk
17. Jimmy Graham
18. Odell (me)
19. Demaryius Thomas
20. TY Hilton
21. Justin Forsett
22. Mark Ingram
23. Julio Jones (me)


Hilton over Jones? Jeeeeezus....
Yep  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:33 pm : link
I overcame drafting Adrian Peterson 2nd overall by picking up CJ Anderson and making some key trades.

Drafting well certainly helps though.
How about Jimmy Graham  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:34 pm : link
before Gronkowski.

I haven't seen Graham go that early anywhere.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 1:39 pm : link
Looks like Graham went 1 pick after Gronk. Still a reach and a bad value there though. Too early for Graham, IMO.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 1:41 pm : link
In comment 12444921 arcarsenal said:
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Looks like Graham went 1 pick after Gronk. Still a reach and a bad value there though. Too early for Graham, IMO.


yep I see it now.
Arc..  
EricJ : 8/31/2015 1:52 pm : link
the only criticism I would have is if you took Gates in the 5th round. In most leagues, he is going un-drafted. OR right at the end. Therefore, you could have grabbed another WR at that slot.
I took Gates..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/31/2015 1:53 pm : link
in the 16th round of a draft. But I also have Gronk who I took in the 3rd round - great value in a PPR league.
RE: RE: I am jealous you many of you guys had your draft already  
santacruzom : 8/31/2015 1:55 pm : link
In comment 12444707 Milton said:
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Both of my leagues are not until This weekend and i am getting antsy to just get them over with...


Same here. The more time I have to think about it, the more I change my mind. I have the 2nd pick in a 12-team PPR league and my short list is getting longer rather than shorter as the days pass. On top of that, the league is a mix of experienced players with inexperienced players, so it's impossible to predict how it will unfold.


I had the 2nd pick in a 14 team league. Man, it felt like days would pass between my snaked picks.
My keeper choices...  
EricJ : 8/31/2015 1:56 pm : link
in a league where you get to keep players for just one more season. So the guys below I drafted and I can keep them this year too.

I can keep TWO. Looks like I have great value with Bell and Evans.

Player Round it will cost me to keep
L. Bell 5th
M. Evans 13th
AJ Green 1st
Lacy 1st and 6th
Luck 2nd
Edelman 6th
R. Jennings 4th
Torrey Smith 10th



RE: Arc..  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12444963 EricJ said:
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the only criticism I would have is if you took Gates in the 5th round. In most leagues, he is going un-drafted. OR right at the end. Therefore, you could have grabbed another WR at that slot.


Oh, not even close. I took Gates way later. 11th or 12th round.

People forget that he was the 2nd best TE last year. The 4 game suspension hurts but even if he's just a middle-low end TE1 when he gets back the value is still there where I took him.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 1:59 pm : link
What would you rather start with in a 12 team PPR league..

Antonio Brown, Justin Forsett/Lamar Miller, /Mike Evans/Jordan Matthews/Alshon Jeffery

OR

Lacy/Lynch, Brandin Cooks/Hilton, Frank Gore/Joseph Randle
RE: Yep  
santacruzom : 8/31/2015 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12444906 pjcas18 said:
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I overcame drafting Adrian Peterson 2nd overall by picking up CJ Anderson and making some key trades.

Drafting well certainly helps though.


In my league I suspect a solid draft that gives my team an early season edge will help me on the waiver wire... I hopefully won't have to overbid on a player early to fill a hole and should therefore have more to spend late in the year.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 2:10 pm : link
In comment 12444989 arcarsenal said:
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What would you rather start with in a 12 team PPR league..

Antonio Brown, Justin Forsett/Lamar Miller, /Mike Evans/Jordan Matthews/Alshon Jeffery

OR

Lacy/Lynch, Brandin Cooks/Hilton, Frank Gore/Joseph Randle


Antonio Brown, Justin Forsett/Lamar Miller, /Mike Evans/Jordan Matthews/Alshon Jeffery

but I'd take Lamar Miller over Forsett. I used to have Miller on my do not draft list, but I like him now.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 2:18 pm : link
That's what I did in the mock I did at lunch and so far that got me this.. (12 team, PPR)

Antonio Brown
Justin Forsett
Mike Evans
Travis Kelce
Jonathan Stewart
CJ Spiller
John Brown
Mike Wallace
Eli Manning
Jonas Gray
DeVante Parker

Still need another TE and QB but this is basically the type of team Id be looking at. I wouldn't hate it for a 12 team league
Solid first 5  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 2:21 pm : link
I like John Brown a lot as a breakout candidate for this year and Eli is great value there.
RE: How about Jimmy Graham  
giantgiantfan : 8/31/2015 2:30 pm : link
In comment 12444912 pjcas18 said:
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before Gronkowski.

I haven't seen Graham go that early anywhere.


That was a shocker, Graham has been going in the 3rd mainly, but sometimes in the 4th depending on the size of the league. I've just stayed away from Tight Ends this year unless I can grab Gates or Thomas (9th round) and then I grab someone like Eifert in the final round. Graham could end up being a great value in the 4th, but I rather use that round to gamble on some gems at RB or grab a QB like Brees that may have slipped.

But if I can't get those two, I just grab one at the very end.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 2:32 pm : link
Yeah I am totally ok with Eli for a 12 team PPR... I think in PPR, if you're not going to take Luck early, the mid-tier QB's wind up forcing you to miss out on better value at RB or WR or even TE (Olsen, Kelce)

Basically I am just going to keep an eye on the grid and wait for most or all of the other teams to have drafted a QB and then I'll grab Eli before anyone starts taking backups.

12 team is hard. Talent really drains off the board fast. By the 7th round or so, the RB's and QB's are already very thin.
RE: RE: How about Jimmy Graham  
EricJ : 8/31/2015 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12445058 giantgiantfan said:
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In comment 12444912 pjcas18 said:


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before Gronkowski.

I haven't seen Graham go that early anywhere.



That was a shocker, Graham has been going in the 3rd mainly, but sometimes in the 4th depending on the size of the league.


Anyone who takes Graham that high deserves to lose his league.

True story...
One of my fantasy leagues is a group of Giants fans. Roughly 10 years ago someone took the Giants defense with the #1 overall selection. I was LMAO and actually felt bad for the guy. Luckily for him it was not a money league.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 2:44 pm : link
In comment 12445062 arcarsenal said:
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Yeah I am totally ok with Eli for a 12 team PPR... I think in PPR, if you're not going to take Luck early, the mid-tier QB's wind up forcing you to miss out on better value at RB or WR or even TE (Olsen, Kelce)

Basically I am just going to keep an eye on the grid and wait for most or all of the other teams to have drafted a QB and then I'll grab Eli before anyone starts taking backups.

12 team is hard. Talent really drains off the board fast. By the 7th round or so, the RB's and QB's are already very thin.


I took Luck in the 2nd in my 12-team ppr because we also get 6pts per passing TD and I just felt when I picked he was the best value.

My WR's need work though. I love Amari Cooper this year, I think he'll be Beckham like with his #'s and I have him and Edelman as my starters. Edelman is a ppr machine, but his health is always a question. We also get return points, so Edelman has more value.

After those two I have John Brown, Cole Beasley, Torrey Smith, Dorial Green-Beckham, and Rueben Randle.

Question on the best value Rookie...  
BamaBlue : 8/31/2015 2:45 pm : link
which one would you take (in a full PPR):

Melvin Gordon (RB)
Amari Cooper (WR)
Todd Gurley (RB)
Devante Parker (WR)
T.J. Yeldon (RB)
Nelson Agholor (WR)
Ameer Abdullah (RB)
Breshad Perriman (WR)
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12445075 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12445062 arcarsenal said:


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Yeah I am totally ok with Eli for a 12 team PPR... I think in PPR, if you're not going to take Luck early, the mid-tier QB's wind up forcing you to miss out on better value at RB or WR or even TE (Olsen, Kelce)

Basically I am just going to keep an eye on the grid and wait for most or all of the other teams to have drafted a QB and then I'll grab Eli before anyone starts taking backups.

12 team is hard. Talent really drains off the board fast. By the 7th round or so, the RB's and QB's are already very thin.



I took Luck in the 2nd in my 12-team ppr because we also get 6pts per passing TD and I just felt when I picked he was the best value.

My WR's need work though. I love Amari Cooper this year, I think he'll be Beckham like with his #'s and I have him and Edelman as my starters. Edelman is a ppr machine, but his health is always a question. We also get return points, so Edelman has more value.

After those two I have John Brown, Cole Beasley, Torrey Smith, Dorial Green-Beckham, and Rueben Randle.


Yeah, it's really all about value. At that point, it's definitely there for Luck. It's a good pick.

Bama.. I like Cooper the most of that group. I think he's poised to have a very good rookie campaign.
I read this on rotoworld  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 3:00 pm : link
about Cooper's pre-season game this weekend against the Cardinals - a lot of the time with Patrick Peterson covering him.

Normally you expect a learning curve with rookies.

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...Cooper put on a route-running and YAC clinic on a series of late-second-quarter receptions. Through three preseason games, Cooper is sitting on eight catches and 124 yards. He'll be an every-week PPR starter to open the season....


doing a 12 team mock  
nygiants16 : 8/31/2015 3:02 pm : link
picked 7th...

First 5 picks

Brown
Forsett
Graham
Ellington
Wallace...

Not terrible...
in a half point ppr league  
Strahan91 : 8/31/2015 5:12 pm : link
Would you take Demaryius or Julio? I could make an argument for either one. I want to take Julio (x receiver in that offense, not to mention easy schedule) but Demaryius feels safer (despite Peyton's arm) as he's rarely hurt
RE: in a half point ppr league  
pjcas18 : 8/31/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12445337 Strahan91 said:
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Would you take Demaryius or Julio? I could make an argument for either one. I want to take Julio (x receiver in that offense, not to mention easy schedule) but Demaryius feels safer (despite Peyton's arm) as he's rarely hurt


I take Julio if I have that choice
RE: in a half point ppr league  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 6:02 pm : link
In comment 12445337 Strahan91 said:
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Would you take Demaryius or Julio? I could make an argument for either one. I want to take Julio (x receiver in that offense, not to mention easy schedule) but Demaryius feels safer (despite Peyton's arm) as he's rarely hurt


Julio. Roddy is starting to decline and they're going to go downfield more this year. I really think he's going to have a monster year. Denver, on the other hand, I think is going to be a little more run oriented and lean on CJ Anderson the way they did last year down the stretch. They also have Sanders there and this may be the year Latimer emerges.

Atlanta also figures to be trailing more often than Denver and will probably just be throwing more overall.
14 team 1/2 ppr 14th pick roster  
CGiants07 : 8/31/2015 6:30 pm : link
start 1qb,2 rb, 3 wr,1te,1 k,3 DB,3LB,2 Dl start for idp

Julio Jones(wr)
Jeremy Hill(rb)
Joseph Randle(rb)
Brandon Marshall(wr)
Tj Yeldon(rb)
Bobby Wagner(lb)
Eli (qb)
Reshad Jones(db)
Marcus Wheaton(wr)
Danny Trevathan(lb)
Cameron Wake(dl)
Robert Quinn(dl)
Tj Ward(db)
Anthony Barr(lb)
terrence Williams(wr)
Dwayne Allen(te)
Aaron Williams(db)
Breshad Perriman(wr)
Blake Bortles(qb)
Cameron Jordan(dl)
Devon Kennard(lb)
Larry Donnell(te)
Caleb Sturgis(k)

thoughts?
I have an bid auction draft in 30 minutes  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 6:32 pm : link
never did one before, doing it for my father. 200 dollar cap.

Any suggestion. I am going in blind and clueless as he just told me a few hours ago.
to make it easier to read:  
CGiants07 : 8/31/2015 6:33 pm : link
qb- Eli,Bortles
rb-hill,randle,yeldon
wr-julion,marshall,wheaton,williams,perriman
te-allen,donnell
k-sturgis
dl-wake,quinn,jordan
lb-wagner, trevathan, barr,kennard
db-jones,ward,williams
RE: I have an bid auction draft in 30 minutes  
CGiants07 : 8/31/2015 6:34 pm : link
In comment 12445448 dep026 said:
[quote] never did one before, doing it for my father. 200 dollar cap.

Any suggestion. I am going in blind and clueless as he just told me a few hours ago. [/quote}

let the draft come to you as most people spend all there money in the first 2-3 picks
Julius Thomas out 4-5 weeks now.. needs surgery.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 6:49 pm : link
And Kelce was hurt in practice. Walked off but severity unknown. Leg injury.

Jeez.
Wow  
Mr Brightside : 8/31/2015 7:10 pm : link
I was targeting Kelce in my draft tonight. May grab Olsen instead now. Gronk looks more like a first rounder than ever.
My coworker and I were joking around about swapping two studs  
Sly Guy : 8/31/2015 8:44 pm : link
My OBJ for his Jamaal Charles. Looking at my team...I'm actually a bit hesitant about this trade because my team is built around my WRs and I could have Foster in a few weeks.

Here's my team so far:

[.5 PPR team]

Am I crazy enough to dismiss this trade if it actually comes to fruition?
my auction draft  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 9:19 pm : link
QB - Rivers, Palmer
RB - Hill, anderson, jennings, spiller
WR - hilton, evans, cobb, bryant, charles johnson
te - daniels, gates
k - haushka
D - rams

non-PPR. no Flex.
RE: my auction draft  
JayBinQueens : 8/31/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12445752 dep026 said:
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QB - Rivers, Palmer
RB - Hill, anderson, jennings, spiller
WR - hilton, evans, cobb, bryant, charles johnson
te - daniels, gates
k - haushka
D - rams

non-PPR. no Flex.


Very solid. How many teams?

What was your thought on auction vs snake draft?
RE: RE: my auction draft  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 9:43 pm : link
In comment 12445758 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 12445752 dep026 said:


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QB - Rivers, Palmer
RB - Hill, anderson, jennings, spiller
WR - hilton, evans, cobb, bryant, charles johnson
te - daniels, gates
k - haushka
D - rams

non-PPR. no Flex.



Very solid. How many teams?

What was your thought on auction vs snake draft?


10 teams. I disliked it. it's much easier to get a stacked team. my qb isn't the best, but he will still throw close to 30 tds.
Thoughts on team? 10 team, standard  
Mr Brightside : 8/31/2015 9:53 pm : link
QB- Eli, Brady
RB- Hill, Gore, Ivory, Abdullah, D. Johnson
WR- Bryant, Matthews, Robinson, Boldin, Royal
TE- Olsen, Eifert
D- Broncos
K- Tucker
RE: Thoughts on team? 10 team, standard  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 10:17 pm : link
In comment 12445830 Mr Brightside said:
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QB- Eli, Brady
RB- Hill, Gore, Ivory, Abdullah, D. Johnson
WR- Bryant, Matthews, Robinson, Boldin, Royal
TE- Olsen, Eifert
D- Broncos
K- Tucker


well you probably had a later pick. I don't like gore that early. you probably could have gotten a better number 2 WR like an evans or hilton and come back with a l. murray or even drafted a cooks.
RE: RE: RE: my auction draft  
Sly Guy : 8/31/2015 10:18 pm : link
In comment 12445822 dep026 said:
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In comment 12445758 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 12445752 dep026 said:


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QB - Rivers, Palmer
RB - Hill, anderson, jennings, spiller
WR - hilton, evans, cobb, bryant, charles johnson
te - daniels, gates
k - haushka
D - rams

non-PPR. no Flex.



Very solid. How many teams?

What was your thought on auction vs snake draft?



10 teams. I disliked it. it's much easier to get a stacked team. my qb isn't the best, but he will still throw close to 30 tds.


Even for an 8-team league, this team is too stacked.
RE: Thoughts on team? 10 team, standard  
Sly Guy : 8/31/2015 10:25 pm : link
In comment 12445830 Mr Brightside said:
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QB- Eli, Brady
RB- Hill, Gore, Ivory, Abdullah, D. Johnson
WR- Bryant, Matthews, Robinson, Boldin, Royal
TE- Olsen, Eifert
D- Broncos
K- Tucker


I guess Gore was your 3rd/4th pick? I'm not a fan of Gore as my RB2 but love him as a Flex. You have great depth at every position but no true game changer.

If you can package your depth with one more game changer in either QB/RB/WR, you'll position yourself nicely for the playoffs.

Someone like a Jeremy Maclin for your Abdullah and Robinson can yield you a monstrous return.
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