does that mean the seahawks are going to struggle?
Does that mean Peyton is going to struggle?
Does that mean Aaron Rodgers will continue to struggle?
Does that mean AP is going to be terrible?
If preseason meant what was going to happen in the regular season, the Giants would not have won the superbowl in 2007 and 2011...
the preseason is intended for building continuity and learning tendencies amongst teammates ... the final score is irrelevant ...
its a dress rehearsal to see where your projected 1st teamers grade out and individual analysis takes place ...
based upon the 1st 3 preseason games, there is not much difference from the 2014 team and where we left off 6-10, to this projected team ... who I feel, where fare worse ...
not because of injuries and not because Dallas is better. Simply because it seems that the Giants tend to get a slow start. That is the perception anyway. As if we are not truly ready to start the regular season.
this team is struggling, again ... we struggled in 2014, struggled in 2013 and the pattern points to struggling in 2015 ...
again, there is no continuity in any phase of this team ...
Why are you ignoring my question....I am not talking about the giants
i am talking about the other teams i have mentioned...
are those teams going to struggle as well since they have struggled in preseason???
Also if there is no switch like you say then how come the giants won the superbowl in 07 and 11?
I do not care about those other teams, I do not follow them as I do my Giants ... I do not know what there rosters consist of personnel wise ...
I can tell you this much, watching a handful of other games this weekend, most teams 2nd/3rd teamers play with more effort, instinct and want to win than our 1st team ...
I have to hypothesize or prove anything any further other than look at what we have had over the past 3 seasons, season is already done with by OCT, and this team plays meaningless games till Christmas ...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
I have to hypothesize or prove anything any further other than look at what we have had over the past 3 seasons, season is already done with by OCT, and this team plays meaningless games till Christmas ...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
Gotcha now if the team starts off the season playing well are you still going to come in with your one liners or you actually going to praise the team?
The pussies are people who can not handle reality and have to have it sugar coated to them with baseless optimism.
Only problem with your theory is the "reality" you're referring to is an undetermined future state of this team. There is no reality yet, you doofus. This is the NFL and plenty of teams surprise the league and come out with good seasons. My opinion is the Giants actually have a very good starting lineup, but have some of the worst depth of the NFL, and in a league with endless injuries and more regular rotations from backups, we won't have the talent to stick with Philly and Dallas. I think we're looking at an 8-8 football team.
But that is an opinion. It is not reality, nor is what you or anyone else on this board thinks. In 2007, would it have been rooted in reality to predict the Giants would win the Super Bowl after being embarrassed the opening two weeks of the season? And with that, would I have been a pussy who can't handle reality if I thought the team could on a run? What fucking nonsense. Shit changes. Players grow... and with that, some players regress.
I don't think someone is a pussy if they note that the Giants have had an enormous amount of injuries compared to the rest of the league in recent years. That, unlike your declaration of a reality that doesn't even exist yet, is not my opinion. That's actually something that's rooted in fact. What a pussy I am for being upset about this fact regarding my favorite football team.
I have to hypothesize or prove anything any further other than look at what we have had over the past 3 seasons, season is already done with by OCT, and this team plays meaningless games till Christmas ...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
Gotcha now if the team starts off the season playing well are you still going to come in with your one liners or you actually going to praise the team?
I will be rooting hard every week as I have done for the past 30yr's regardless, but at some point you have to start looking at things for what they are ...
No you are not looking at things for what they are
you are looking at things at how YOU think it is going to happen....
If you looked at it for how they are, you would say it is preseason and the team is still 0-0, they have struggled so there is reason to worry but the season has not started yet...
The team can go 0-16, 1-15,2-14,3-13,4-12,5-11,6-10,7-9,8-8,9-7,10-6,-11-5,12-4,13-3,14-2,15-1,16-0...no one knows...
so to say this team is done and is going to suck based on preseason is simply wrong....
you could say there are signs that are troubling and this team needs to get it fixed quick, absolutely...but you cant say this team is going to suck simply based on preseason...
RE: No you are not looking at things for what they are
you are looking at things at how YOU think it is going to happen....
If you looked at it for how they are, you would say it is preseason and the team is still 0-0, they have struggled so there is reason to worry but the season has not started yet...
and when the season does start what evidence has been viewed by the eye-ball that indicates any sort of promise ?
wha ti said was that preseason means nothing and that when the season starts everyone starts 0-0 that is fact...
if they struggle and go 0-3 or 0-4 i will be right there with you killing them...
But for now i look it at as the season has not started yet, yes they have struggled but when the bullets fly we will see what kind of team the Giants are, for now it is all prediction based off of glorified scrimmages...
looking like Cowboys at -5.5. That's lower than I would have expected it. I have a good feeling!
I wake up each and every morning believing in you..Am I delusional or on the correct path? Am I putting my faith in the wrong soul or will that faith continue to be rewarded?
you'd think that Dallas has been the model of excellence this preseason and will be completely healthy to boot.
Their CB position might be in as bad shape as our S position. Yet a Dallas victory is all but assured.
Again - it is almost like people have never seen preseason before.
Yep and this is why I avoid BBI in the preseason, its all doomsday.
Wait until Dallas wins a few games. Their OLine will have 5 hall of famers. Romo will be the bestest QB ever. Dez is the most passion filled player and is a great teammate because of it...
Same song and dance every year. And they are pretty healthy outside the CB position. If we were just missing our safeties and had Beatty, JPP, Cruz, Beason, etc... healthy, there is no doubt we could beat them. We went toe to toe with them twice last year and we sucked.
You shouldnt
Bill2 : 7/17/2015 1:17 am : link
you should do your own homework.
I don't exist to give laze dumb useless fucks like you a handbook for living in the world.
And proof of that is that in years of posting no one went and found contrary information. I don't make up things you useless piece of shit. I don't give a flying fuck if you stay stupid and pointless. If I do the work and you want to go further its all out there. fucking cunt for brains
Not sure why people say this. Bill is a hell of an intellectual, who is generally a nice guy when he posts, but if you piss him off and go at him with stuff, get ready! lol... he will not let it slide and will most likely eat you alive unless you are 1000% prepared (and right). I have yet to see the latter.
Our offense hasn't rolled out the full package yet for obvious reasons, but I could see Eli and ODB having a field day
45-42 Giants. Fuck the Cowboys.
I would love to see an upset, but I don't see a win at all..This from a Kool-Aid guy
Concur.
Our offense hasn't rolled out the full package yet for obvious reasons, but I could see Eli and ODB having a field day
45-42 Giants. Fuck the Cowboys.
so the offense is going to go from struggling to put 3 consecutive plays together to get a 1st down, to scoring 45 points on opening night ...
interesting ...
does that mean the seahawks are going to struggle?
Does that mean Peyton is going to struggle?
Does that mean Aaron Rodgers will continue to struggle?
Does that mean AP is going to be terrible?
If preseason meant what was going to happen in the regular season, the Giants would not have won the superbowl in 2007 and 2011...
I could see it.
The question is, was it a W or a L.
does that mean the seahawks are going to struggle?
Does that mean Peyton is going to struggle?
Does that mean Aaron Rodgers will continue to struggle?
Does that mean AP is going to be terrible?
If preseason meant what was going to happen in the regular season, the Giants would not have won the superbowl in 2007 and 2011...
the preseason is intended for building continuity and learning tendencies amongst teammates ... the final score is irrelevant ...
its a dress rehearsal to see where your projected 1st teamers grade out and individual analysis takes place ...
based upon the 1st 3 preseason games, there is not much difference from the 2014 team and where we left off 6-10, to this projected team ... who I feel, where fare worse ...
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And 3 tds vs Dallas. Book it.
I could see it.
The question is, was it a W or a L.
Can't see that far into future. Lol.
so i asked you are those teams going to struggle as well because they struggled in preseason or is it just the Giants?
Forget about last year they are different teams last year means nothing now....
this team is struggling, again ... we struggled in 2014, struggled in 2013 and the pattern points to struggling in 2015 ...
again, there is no continuity in any phase of this team ...
this team is struggling, again ... we struggled in 2014, struggled in 2013 and the pattern points to struggling in 2015 ...
again, there is no continuity in any phase of this team ...
Why are you ignoring my question....I am not talking about the giants
i am talking about the other teams i have mentioned...
are those teams going to struggle as well since they have struggled in preseason???
Also if there is no switch like you say then how come the giants won the superbowl in 07 and 11?
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REGULAR SEASON SWITCH ON ...
this team is struggling, again ... we struggled in 2014, struggled in 2013 and the pattern points to struggling in 2015 ...
again, there is no continuity in any phase of this team ...
Why are you ignoring my question....I am not talking about the giants
i am talking about the other teams i have mentioned...
are those teams going to struggle as well since they have struggled in preseason???
Also if there is no switch like you say then how come the giants won the superbowl in 07 and 11?
I do not care about those other teams, I do not follow them as I do my Giants ... I do not know what there rosters consist of personnel wise ...
I can tell you this much, watching a handful of other games this weekend, most teams 2nd/3rd teamers play with more effort, instinct and want to win than our 1st team ...
fine then i will reowrd the quesiton, how did the giants win the superbowl in 07 and 11 when they struggled early in both those seasons...
like you siad there is no switch so how did they win??
according to you there is no switch so what happened?
fine then i will reowrd the quesiton, how did the giants win the superbowl in 07 and 11 when they struggled early in both those seasons...
like you siad there is no switch so how did they win??
according to you there is no switch so what happened?
there was evidence of continuity in both 07' and 11' ... there was the right mix of talent, leadership and luck ... there is no formula ...
Don't set up that lawn chair just yet Romo.
The pussies are people who can not handle reality and have to have it sugar coated to them with baseless optimism.
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so you do not look bad...
fine then i will reowrd the quesiton, how did the giants win the superbowl in 07 and 11 when they struggled early in both those seasons...
like you siad there is no switch so how did they win??
according to you there is no switch so what happened?
there was evidence of continuity in both 07' and 11' ... there was the right mix of talent, leadership and luck ... there is no formula ...
Lol you are completely changing your argument as you go...
First it was if a player struggles in preseason he can not turn it on for the regular season...
then it was a team can not turn on a switch and be a good team for the regular season...
now it is ok to struggle as long as there is continuity from one year to the next....
what continuity was there from 06 to 07? strahan nearly retired because he thought the team was going to suck and have to rebuild...
you are completely making shit up to make your argument work but it is falling apart...
if the team is 0-3 or 0-4 and has looked like shit i will be right there saying this team is finished and it is time to rebuild and tear it down...
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Glad the pussification of BBI is in full effect!
The pussies are people who can not handle reality and have to have it sugar coated to them with baseless optimism.
So you are a realist? and the people who are not killing the Giants are optimists and pussies?
boy i am glad i am not a realist and lumped in with you then...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
Gotcha now if the team starts off the season playing well are you still going to come in with your one liners or you actually going to praise the team?
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Glad the pussification of BBI is in full effect!
The pussies are people who can not handle reality and have to have it sugar coated to them with baseless optimism.
Only problem with your theory is the "reality" you're referring to is an undetermined future state of this team. There is no reality yet, you doofus. This is the NFL and plenty of teams surprise the league and come out with good seasons. My opinion is the Giants actually have a very good starting lineup, but have some of the worst depth of the NFL, and in a league with endless injuries and more regular rotations from backups, we won't have the talent to stick with Philly and Dallas. I think we're looking at an 8-8 football team.
But that is an opinion. It is not reality, nor is what you or anyone else on this board thinks. In 2007, would it have been rooted in reality to predict the Giants would win the Super Bowl after being embarrassed the opening two weeks of the season? And with that, would I have been a pussy who can't handle reality if I thought the team could on a run? What fucking nonsense. Shit changes. Players grow... and with that, some players regress.
I don't think someone is a pussy if they note that the Giants have had an enormous amount of injuries compared to the rest of the league in recent years. That, unlike your declaration of a reality that doesn't even exist yet, is not my opinion. That's actually something that's rooted in fact. What a pussy I am for being upset about this fact regarding my favorite football team.
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I have to hypothesize or prove anything any further other than look at what we have had over the past 3 seasons, season is already done with by OCT, and this team plays meaningless games till Christmas ...
based on what I have seen so far, after all the offseason work, player's, coaches, schemes, product looks the same ...
Gotcha now if the team starts off the season playing well are you still going to come in with your one liners or you actually going to praise the team?
I will be rooting hard every week as I have done for the past 30yr's regardless, but at some point you have to start looking at things for what they are ...
If you looked at it for how they are, you would say it is preseason and the team is still 0-0, they have struggled so there is reason to worry but the season has not started yet...
The team can go 0-16, 1-15,2-14,3-13,4-12,5-11,6-10,7-9,8-8,9-7,10-6,-11-5,12-4,13-3,14-2,15-1,16-0...no one knows...
so to say this team is done and is going to suck based on preseason is simply wrong....
you could say there are signs that are troubling and this team needs to get it fixed quick, absolutely...but you cant say this team is going to suck simply based on preseason...
If you looked at it for how they are, you would say it is preseason and the team is still 0-0, they have struggled so there is reason to worry but the season has not started yet...
and when the season does start what evidence has been viewed by the eye-ball that indicates any sort of promise ?
if they struggle and go 0-3 or 0-4 i will be right there with you killing them...
But for now i look it at as the season has not started yet, yes they have struggled but when the bullets fly we will see what kind of team the Giants are, for now it is all prediction based off of glorified scrimmages...
we will win it
Link?
I wake up each and every morning believing in you..Am I delusional or on the correct path? Am I putting my faith in the wrong soul or will that faith continue to be rewarded?
That's no help..About when? Remember the thread start? A little help here
B, can you direct me to that thread? What was the subject of the thread?
Link - ( New Window )
Since I don't go on NFTs, I never would have seen that..Thanks B for finding that..I think..:)
Their CB position might be in as bad shape as our S position. Yet a Dallas victory is all but assured.
Again - it is almost like people have never seen preseason before.
Yep and this is why I avoid BBI in the preseason, its all doomsday.
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you'd think that Dallas has been the model of excellence this preseason and will be completely healthy to boot.
Their CB position might be in as bad shape as our S position. Yet a Dallas victory is all but assured.
Again - it is almost like people have never seen preseason before.
Yep and this is why I avoid BBI in the preseason, its all doomsday.
Jeremy, I might do the same next year
Couldn't of said it better
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you'd think that Dallas has been the model of excellence this preseason and will be completely healthy to boot.
Their CB position might be in as bad shape as our S position. Yet a Dallas victory is all but assured.
Again - it is almost like people have never seen preseason before.
Yep and this is why I avoid BBI in the preseason, its all doomsday.
Wait until Dallas wins a few games. Their OLine will have 5 hall of famers. Romo will be the bestest QB ever. Dez is the most passion filled player and is a great teammate because of it...
Same song and dance every year. And they are pretty healthy outside the CB position. If we were just missing our safeties and had Beatty, JPP, Cruz, Beason, etc... healthy, there is no doubt we could beat them. We went toe to toe with them twice last year and we sucked.
Bill2 : 7/17/2015 1:17 am : link
you should do your own homework.
I don't exist to give laze dumb useless fucks like you a handbook for living in the world.
And proof of that is that in years of posting no one went and found contrary information. I don't make up things you useless piece of shit. I don't give a flying fuck if you stay stupid and pointless. If I do the work and you want to go further its all out there. fucking cunt for brains
didn't think he had it in him!
didn't think he had it in him!
Not sure why people say this. Bill is a hell of an intellectual, who is generally a nice guy when he posts, but if you piss him off and go at him with stuff, get ready! lol... he will not let it slide and will most likely eat you alive unless you are 1000% prepared (and right). I have yet to see the latter.