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David B. : 8/31/2015 1:38 pm
Hi Eric,
Do you archive past/previous years preseason game reviews, or are they gone forever? If you still have them, I think it would be interesting to re-read them.

This preseason has obviously been dreadful, but I don't know that it looks THAT much worse than last years' (where the issues and injuries were different). Granted, last year was a losing year, but when then the regular season started and they looked much better than they had in preseason for the first few games until the injuries took their toll.

But I honestly don't remember how bad they looked in preseason last year, but I think it was pretty bad, so I was wondering if those old reviews were around.

Actually, I can't say I recall them EVER looking like a well-oiled machine in preseason in the Coughlin/Eli era.
Eric,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/31/2015 1:40 pm : link
is Eli's career about over?
Do you mean last year when we sucked?  
Bayareabluegiant : 8/31/2015 1:41 pm : link
Or the year before that when we started out 0-6?

For the last 10 years I've held a blindly optimistic view every season. This year I have much more realistic expectations.
David  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/31/2015 1:41 pm : link
I have them going back to 1996 still...
http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/new-york-giants-game-previews-reviews/ - ( New Window )
RE: David  
dorgan : 8/31/2015 1:44 pm : link
In comment 12444939 Eric from BBI said:
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I have them going back to 1996 still... http://www.bigblueinteractive.com/new-york-giants-game-previews-reviews/ - ( New Window )



No offense to anyone, but I pay no attention to pre-season beyond watching individuals that interest me. I can't imagine checking out prior year's pre-season games. The current ones don't mean much and the previous years' games mean less.
Cool.  
David B. : 8/31/2015 1:58 pm : link
Thanks.
Love this from last year's Jet's preseason game.  
larryflower37 : 8/31/2015 2:13 pm : link
[quote]My biggest issue with Manning was the one near interception by Kyle Wilson on the 11-play drive to end the first half. You simply can’t make that throw, by any means. It was a terrible decision from Manning and it was throws like that that led to his career-high 27 interceptions a season ago. That’s not a new scheme, that’s not bad block. That’s Manning not thinking.[quote]

Sounds familiar..
RE: Love this from last year's Jet's preseason game.  
SoDev : 8/31/2015 2:25 pm : link
In comment 12445022 larryflower37 said:
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[quote]My biggest issue with Manning was the one near interception by Kyle Wilson on the 11-play drive to end the first half. You simply can’t make that throw, by any means. It was a terrible decision from Manning and it was throws like that that led to his career-high 27 interceptions a season ago. That’s not a new scheme, that’s not bad block. That’s Manning not thinking.[quote]

Sounds familiar..


Cute, but didn't mean shit come regular season when Eli threw his tied 2nd fewest ints in a full year. Not knocking you for posting it, just stating a fact based on what you posted.
RE: RE: Love this from last year's Jet's preseason game.  
larryflower37 : 8/31/2015 2:30 pm : link
In comment 12445048 SoDev said:
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In comment 12445022 larryflower37 said:


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[quote]My biggest issue with Manning was the one near interception by Kyle Wilson on the 11-play drive to end the first half. You simply can’t make that throw, by any means. It was a terrible decision from Manning and it was throws like that that led to his career-high 27 interceptions a season ago. That’s not a new scheme, that’s not bad block. That’s Manning not thinking.[quote]

Sounds familiar..



Cute, but didn't mean shit come regular season when Eli threw his tied 2nd fewest ints in a full year. Not knocking you for posting it, just stating a fact based on what you posted.


I get it but I was referencing this year's review based on the similar nature of the two.
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He badly missed a wide open Odell Beckham on what should have been a 70-yard touchdown. Worse, he made an incredibly stupid decision to throw the ball short in the middle of the field with less than 20 seconds left and no timeouts. Even had James Jones come back to catch the ball at the Jets 41-yard line, there was not enough time to run another play to get into field goal range. There was nothing to gain from that throw. Stupid, inexcusable play by a quarterback who wants to be one of the top paid in the NFL.
The point was Manning consistently has  
larryflower37 : 8/31/2015 2:33 pm : link
these moments especially during the pre-season.
Excerpts from last years Colts preseason game  
David B. : 8/31/2015 2:41 pm : link
For three quarters, the first- and second-team units of the Giants were dreadful. The Giants had nine offensive possessions and all nine resulted in punts. The Giants did not pick up a single first down on seven of the nine offensive possessions that went three-and-out. These seven possessions netted 14 yards. On the other two possessions, the Giants gained 53 yards, but 15 of these yards were by penalty. In the first half, the Giants had 48 total net yards in 26 offensive plays (1.8 yards per play), had five first downs (three due to penalty), and were 2-of-12 throwing the football for seven net yards. Unbelievably, it could have been worse in that the Giants had two turnovers erased due to defensive penalties called against the Colts.

A week after finishing the game against the Steelers 0-for-2, in four possessions against the Colts, Eli Manning finished the game 1-of-7 for six yards. The initial, somewhat positive 6-of-7 performance in the Hall of Fame Game has faded. In three games, Eli has yet to complete a pass over 10 yards. The $100 million quarterback has ceased making plays.

if we are to be honest with ourselves, we must also consider the worst-case scenario: that at a young 33-years old, Eli may simply not be a good quarterback anymore. He did not play as well in 2012 as he did in 2011. In 2013, he had his worst season as a full-time starter, looking rattled and making dumb mistakes that bad quarterbacks often make. So far, 2014 looks like a continuation of his bad play in 2013.
Eli Manning has lost his mojo and it remains questionable about whether he can get back.

FROM THE JETS GAME

My biggest issue with Manning was the one near interception by Kyle Wilson on the 11-play drive to end the first half. You simply can’t make that throw, by any means. It was a terrible decision from Manning and it was throws like that that led to his career-high 27 interceptions a season ago.

While there were some strong individual performances, the overall defensive performance was not good. The Jets scored three touchdowns and a field goal and had drives of 72, 66, 76, and 82 yards. They rushed for 146 yards on 32 carries (4.6 yards per carry average) and their three quarterbacks cumulatively were 22-of-33 for 278 yards, three touchdowns, and no interceptions (123.0 quarterback rating).

Sounds like pretty similar stuff in a lot of ways.
RE: Eric,  
Wuphat : 8/31/2015 2:48 pm : link
In comment 12444928 Big Blue '56 said:
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is Eli's career about over?


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Eric,
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2015 1:47 pm : link : reply
this is why we've got to do something about these idiots..The guy asked a legit question and you're the only one addressing it



http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=519403 - ( New Window )
I can't imagine being worried about Eli's pre-season play.  
BrettNYG10 : 8/31/2015 5:01 pm : link
Makes some degree of sense to worry about questions marks like S or RT. But not Eli.
I'm more  
darren in pdx : 8/31/2015 5:07 pm : link
worried about the defense and the offense limiting drive-killing penalties. Eli will be fine.
RE: RE: Eric,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/31/2015 5:42 pm : link
In comment 12445079 Wuphat said:
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In comment 12444928 Big Blue '56 said:


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is Eli's career about over?





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Eric,
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2015 1:47 pm : link : reply
this is why we've got to do something about these idiots..The guy asked a legit question and you're the only one addressing it


http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=519403 - ( New Window )


Lol..Not quite the same..A one-liner does not take any bandwidth to speak of..Pictures, especially lots of pictures causes a lot of scrolling to read posts..But point taken murderer! :)
David B  
F-18WARVET : 8/31/2015 5:52 pm : link
They weren't that bad last year in the pre-season. Their offense was getting a tad better each week and the defense was the typical "slow them down for a little bit but don't stop them altogether" type of showing.

I think this year it is more of a "mix and match" mentality for the offense, particularly the offensive line trying to find the right combinations. However, I thought they'd show some more consistency considering this is year two of McAdoo's system and not look so .... blah.

Defensively I remember the same types of things happening in 2007 with Spags. Actually I remember watching the 2008 defense get shredded by Cutler and the Bears in the preseason. I was in South Korea watching that game. If you remember 2008 at all - you'll remember that the D that year was pretty stout.

I'm hoping this doesn't continue much longer but you just never know. The injuries are not making it any better.
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