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NJ.com: Jenkins - Giants Need Killer Instinct

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/31/2015 1:45 pm
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But, Jenkins said, that is reliant on the players performing and, in his words, learning "how to go into game day with more of a killer instinct" - something he feels has been lacking so far during this underwhelming preseason.

"We've got to make it happen," Jenkins said. "We've got to have that game day intensity, that switch, drive, where we go out and we hit the field on game day, we take that level up another step higher.

"A lot of times we come out, we practice well, we go through things, we're where we need to be. And then we get into the game and we may freeze up a little bit, or we just don't carry it over when you should be going into the game and stepping it up a notch. We've got to learn as a team how to go into game day with more of a killer instinct."

Defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins says Giants need 'more of a killer instinct' - ( New Window )
Giants  
MookGiants : 8/31/2015 1:47 pm : link
need better players is more like it.
RE: Giants  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/31/2015 1:48 pm : link
In comment 12444947 MookGiants said:
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need better players is more like it.


Haha, yep.
antrel rolle would always  
sundayatone : 8/31/2015 1:49 pm : link
want the def to have more dawg.
RE: Giants  
Victor in CT : 8/31/2015 1:50 pm : link
In comment 12444947 MookGiants said:
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need better players is more like it.


yes
is cullen jenkins even  
sundayatone : 8/31/2015 1:51 pm : link
going to make the final 53?
Too bad Killer Instinct is an Xbox One exclusive  
Jackson Ellis : 8/31/2015 1:52 pm : link
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Better players  
arniefez : 8/31/2015 1:53 pm : link
without question. But something is very off beyond player talent. The Giants look like they play at half speed.
blah blah blah ... 2015  
Hem Roid : 8/31/2015 1:54 pm : link
a different player yapping about killer instinct, same boring, half assed results ...

its stale ...
RE: is cullen jenkins even  
Mister Charming : 8/31/2015 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12444961 sundayatone said:
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going to make the final 53?


He's a bonafide starter on this team.
Good Game, I have to say  
SicilianGMEN : 8/31/2015 2:00 pm : link
This team is soft. We all see it and Jenkins acknowledges it too  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/31/2015 2:02 pm : link
We don't impose our will on anyone outside of Odell.
who the hell  
Hem Roid : 8/31/2015 2:04 pm : link
is Jenkins anyway, just another guy as Carl puts it ... these guys earing checks for no services rendered ... sign me up !
In a game that's fueled by emotion,  
81_Great_Dane : 8/31/2015 2:04 pm : link
the Giants often lack it. I think that's a reflection of TC's coaching style, in a way. They seem to be a very fine group of young men. Many of them are people I'd be proud to have in my family. But they don't seem to go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs and have some fun, to borrow a phrase. They don't kick other guys ass. They don't impose their will. They don't intimidate.

Such emotion was a big part of their Super Bowl runs, but they have had a lot of flat-out stinkers where they seemed to come out thinking, not fired up.

So I'm inclined to agree with Jenkins.

OT, but the Jenkins DE experiment is hurting two positions  
g-baby : 8/31/2015 2:07 pm : link
DE: He's taken valuable first team preseason reps from other candidates (Wynn, Moore, etc.), and it's clear he is not effective from an edge position

DT: Jenkins is our most proven pass-rusher from the interior, yet he's barely gotten any reps at DT in starting situations this preseason. AND with him starting at DE, Kuhn has been repping with the first team (though hopefully that's a blessing in disguise, as Kuhn's been getting slaughtered this preseason and may have earned his way off this roster).
It comes down to preparedness...  
Milton : 8/31/2015 2:08 pm : link
They're hesitant because they are still not sure of their assignments. This will be a probable going into the season, but it is something they can overcome in time if they truly buy into the system and if injuries don't continue to mount.
He is right to a certain degree...  
GiantBlue : 8/31/2015 2:09 pm : link
The Eagles always seem to come out against us with a great deal of aggression and I would like us to have the same vs. them and other teams. We need more of a take no prisoners attitude.
Killer talent  
old man : 8/31/2015 2:12 pm : link
or desire make for killer instinct.
We need some Samoans to raise the energy level.
Giants are guppies in a tank  
superspynyg : 8/31/2015 2:14 pm : link
full of Piranhas.
He is right....  
jsuds : 8/31/2015 2:16 pm : link
There is a mentality to winning; there has to be the belief that you can do it. It has been so long since the Giants have had any success that they don't appear to be going into games with much confidence that they can win. So they don't. They need to string together a series of successes to regain that winning mentality.
This has been the case since  
gmen9892 : 8/31/2015 2:22 pm : link
The day Michael Strahan retired. We simply have nobody on the defense that has that fire or leadership quality to get the defense riled up and playing mean. This defense is soft, just like its been since 2008 and I dont see anyone on the defense that will change that attitude problem.
Landon Collins and Kennard need to change that  
BigBlue1092 : 8/31/2015 2:26 pm : link
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Tell that to Robert Ayers  
Curtis in VA : 8/31/2015 2:37 pm : link
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RE: This has been the case since  
Devon : 8/31/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12445042 gmen9892 said:
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The day Michael Strahan retired. We simply have nobody on the defense that has that fire or leadership quality to get the defense riled up and playing mean. This defense is soft, just like its been since 2008 and I dont see anyone on the defense that will change that attitude problem.


You would think the Giants have done nothing since Stahan retired with the way he's canonized.

The Giants need talent. All the belief and fire and toughness isn't going to make one of the likely least talented defenses in the NFL good, no matter how many cliches players keep speaking in or how much fans eat up of them.
Part of this is due to learning a new system...  
Dan in the Springs : 8/31/2015 2:58 pm : link
and needing time to think, instead of just playing. The Giants played soft the last time Spags was around too.

The question has never been "will the Giants struggle on defense?" It has always been "How long will the Giants struggle on defense?".

It will be interesting to watch, as Spags should be tested as to his ability to adapt and inspire this group.
It's only August 31st  
Danny Kanell : 8/31/2015 3:13 pm : link
And this season is really going well, thus far.

Good times.
call me crazy but i think Damontre moore is adopting that attitude  
mirwin : 8/31/2015 3:31 pm : link
in some of the clips i've seen of him on the sidelines and pre games he seems like he really wants it. we just have to see his play reach that level.
looking at the schedule  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/31/2015 3:36 pm : link
2-2 would be a miracle to start
not sure that soft tag  
bc4life : 8/31/2015 4:06 pm : link
fits all the Giant players - Flowers, Richburg, even Pugh all seem to have some fight.

The Giants  
Old Dirty Beckham : 8/31/2015 4:24 pm : link
need guys like Jenkins to either not be on the roster or be third string players.
There are a lot of  
Fish : 8/31/2015 4:29 pm : link
Young guys that will fill that roll and not ready yet. Kennard and Collins aren't there yet.
Thats on the HC  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 4:30 pm : link
if he lets the team get away from him when things go wrong.

I still think they should have made the change at HC this offseason. Just think the Giants need a new voice. New way of doing things.
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arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 4:32 pm : link
This is the same stuff we have been hearing for years now. Rolle used to say this same thing every week on the radio.

It's just excuse making for subpar personnel.
Didn't Fassel say something similar to Parcells  
Giants2012 : 8/31/2015 4:41 pm : link
"we need mental toughness" I believe he shared and Parcells just walked away.

RE: Landon Collins and Kennard need to change that  
Giants2012 : 8/31/2015 4:43 pm : link
In comment 12445049 BigBlue1092 said:
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Those are two players who I think could help.

He's a cap buster but that's kinda why I wanted Suh and didn't mind letting JPP walk.
The HC can only do so much..  
Big Blue '56 : 8/31/2015 4:49 pm : link
It has to come from within, perhaps starting with Jenkins?
i was a great KI arcade participant  
mattlawson : 8/31/2015 4:51 pm : link
it wasnt that good for 64.

That said - this attitude issue comes up all the time and I think part of the reason is the personality of a lot of our players. Tuck and Eli were never vocal leaders like say, Brandon Jacobs, Strahan, Rolle. And this attitude since Strahan left has never really be present again until the Giants find themselves in the playoffs. Post 2008 I'd say. We lost that swagger.
You know...  
shabu : 8/31/2015 5:20 pm : link
If you lower your expectations for this season, we do have some interesting young developing players to watch.
Ayers just confirmed this team is loaded with  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/31/2015 6:24 pm : link
Ham 'n' Eggers just going to collect paychecks this year.
Vince Lombardi said it best ...  
Manny in CA : 8/31/2015 6:55 pm : link
"Fatigue makes cowards of us all"

It's NOT all the yelling and screaming at the start of the game, it's what you SHOW in the 4th quarter when you've held off a better opponent all day and you TAKE the game because you want it more.

Strahan showed that in the Superbowl; Jacobs in the 2008 playoff game against the Eagles; the rest of the team "threw in the towel" when Plaxico shot himself. Brandon played his heart out and kept encouraging others.

THAT is Killer Instinct.


Hate to say it  
OC2.0 : 8/31/2015 7:50 pm : link
And I'm probably jumping the gun, but if we get smacked in Dallas things could go south in a hurry. Just a bad feeling on my part.
2 things that would greatly improve this defense  
bc4life : 8/31/2015 7:53 pm : link
JPP not blowing his finger off.

Starting Odi and let him learn on the job.

Jenkins isn't wrong  
JonC : 8/31/2015 10:33 pm : link
And it's been this way since the second half of 2012, not a new trait (even though he looks close to toast, he's right).

81GD, good post.
Strahan  
jbeintherockies : 8/31/2015 11:25 pm : link
When Strahan retired, the Giants lost their identity, their fight, whatever you want to call it.

Since Strahan's retirement, they have not found that toughness and confidence a team needs to be dominant on defense.
RE: Strahan  
81_Great_Dane : 8/31/2015 11:28 pm : link
In comment 12445975 jbeintherockies said:
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When Strahan retired, the Giants lost their identity, their fight, whatever you want to call it.

Since Strahan's retirement, they have not found that toughness and confidence a team needs to be dominant on defense.
They did win a Super Bowl since Strahan retired. The defense was pretty good that year.
RE: RE: Strahan  
Danny Kanell : 8/31/2015 11:42 pm : link
In comment 12445979 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 12445975 jbeintherockies said:


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When Strahan retired, the Giants lost their identity, their fight, whatever you want to call it.

Since Strahan's retirement, they have not found that toughness and confidence a team needs to be dominant on defense.

They did win a Super Bowl since Strahan retired. The defense was pretty good that year.


And they had possibly their most dominant team outside of 86 and 90 in the SB era the year after he retired.
Even though he was killed on occasion here  
David in LA : 9/1/2015 12:00 am : link
Osi was a great personality in the locker room. I think we have some guys that could fill the leadership void. Landon Collins needs more notches under his belt. I think OO could someday step up into that role as well. I'd bet the guys with most locker room presence are guys like Beason, and McClain.
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