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sshin05 : 8/31/2015 3:14 pm
Mets

Granderson RF
Cespedes CF
Murphy 1B
Wright 3B
Johnson 2B
dArnaud C
Conforto LF
Flores SS
Colon RHP
Phillies  
sshin05 : 8/31/2015 3:17 pm : link
Herrera CF
Hernandez 2B
Altherr LF
Howard 1B
Francoeur RF
Blanco 3B
Rupp C
Galvis SS
Eickhoff P
replace  
sshin05 : 8/31/2015 3:18 pm : link
kelly with duda and this lineup can really mash
This starts a stretch where we can really make hay  
GiantBlue : 8/31/2015 3:24 pm : link
3 vs. Philly at home before going on the road for 10 to Miami, Washington & Atlanta. Take 9 or 10 of those 13 (esp if 2 of 3 is vs. Washington) and it will be tough for them to overtake us.

Let's go Mets!!!!
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 3:26 pm : link
Now is the time to pick up another game+ on the Nats. Would love to sweep the Phillies and see the Nats lose 2 of 3 to StL.. put us 7 up. They'd really have to sweep us to even get back into any sort of race at that point.
Addison Reed trying to warm up to Mets fans already. lol  
sshin05 : 8/31/2015 3:28 pm : link
James Schumann ‏@jtschumann
@Areed43 first test as a met: on a scale of 1-10 how much do you dislike the Nationals?

Addison reed ‏@Areed43
@jtschumann 25
Must beat bad teams at home  
weeg in the bronx : 8/31/2015 3:29 pm : link
This weekend cannot be duplicated!!! Didn't realize nats had cards coming up, that makes me feel good too.
Thor  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 3:40 pm : link
will be replaced 1 or 2 times by Verrett
hopefully  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 3:44 pm : link
we can have some more exciting games. I don't think there will be a sweep this time, but I've been wrong before.
Rule 5  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 3:46 pm : link
Boyd
Reynolds
Bowman
Taijeron
Nimmo
Gsellman
Rivera
Pill
Walters
Sewald
Lugo
Becerra
Baldonado
Mateo

Seemingly Nimmo, Lugo, Reynolds, Gsellman would be locks. Becerra would be the guy debated and Sewald the wild card protected player for me. Smoker must also be added to the 40 man or he will be allowed o leave via FA.
Last game of the old school rosters  
Deej : 8/31/2015 3:46 pm : link
BS September baseball comes next.
I like Nola  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 3:46 pm : link
the Phillies add a high number 1 College pitcher in the next draft, plus if the pitchers they got from the Rangers develop, they can turn it around
Not  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 3:50 pm : link
having a great year but scouts love Alfaro. He could be a star for the Phillies. As a Mets fan I'm scared of Roman Quinn, seems like we will be HATING this guy shortly, Cornelius Randolph has been incredible in his debut season for them, JP Crawford looks like a stud. The Phillies could turn it around "reasonably" quickly.
I'm fine with a competitive division  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 3:51 pm : link
makes the regular season a lot more interesting
Cornelius Randolph  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 3:55 pm : link
32 walks vs. 32 k's, .866 OPS in the GCL. Very impressive

Quinn .791 OPS with 29 steals
What I find incredible about the Mets  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 4:00 pm : link
is that their pitchers live up to or exceed their hype. I read for years that the Braves have killer pitching in the Minors, but they get to the Show and meh. They are supposed to have more coming but until they establish one without blowing out his arm, it'll be just hype
Thor  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 4:05 pm : link
will be better when they get back to letting Plawecki catch him.
If you lived through Generation K you know...  
Torrag : 8/31/2015 4:05 pm : link
...that young pitchers fulfilling their potential is problematical. Hell Harvey, Degrom and Matz have all undergone TJ already. It's a crapshoot and so far this time we've come up Aces.
Besides the TJ  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 4:06 pm : link
they all have better stuff than advertised
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 4:07 pm : link
I think Syndergaard might just be wearing down a little bit. This is the right time to start skipping a start or two for him. I bet he'll really benefit from it.
HH  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 4:07 pm : link
I don't know what happened to Teheran but he was damn good the past 2 seasons (3.03 era 1.12 whip over 63 starts), Shelby Miller (trade) has been fantastic, Vizcaino has been pretty beastly so far, Foltynewicz looks like a reliever to me, far too hittable for that velocity (hello Bobby Parnell)
Braves  
DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 4:08 pm : link
also lost 2 studs to double TJ. Medlen and Beachy. I think people forget how good these 2 looked.
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DanMetroMan : 8/31/2015 4:11 pm : link
Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
So, Duda not likely to be back from DL when eligible.
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Duda just tracking, not swinging. No return date in mind. TC expects to
Frustrating thing going on with Duda  
Metnut : 8/31/2015 4:17 pm : link
It's honestly uncanny how it seems that any sort of injury prognosis that the team gives out is too optimistic and wrong.

Are our team doctors that bad or is the team just lying to us to try and make fans feel better about injuries? Either answer isn't acceptable IMO.
Back injuries  
sshin05 : 8/31/2015 4:21 pm : link
are always tricky. Unless its chronic, rest is probably the best way to go.
I really don't want Duda to rush this  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 4:22 pm : link
The last thing we need is for him to come back and aggravate the muscle again. Get it 100%. I don't care if he's out another 2 weeks. Get it right. We need him in the postseason.
You dont rush a back injury  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 4:23 pm : link
I don't care if he doesn't come back till October
RE: .  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 4:25 pm : link
In comment 12445210 DanMetroMan said:
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
So, Duda not likely to be back from DL when eligible.
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Duda just tracking, not swinging. No return date in mind. TC expects to


No surprise - Mets have not had anyone come back early yet this year...
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arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 4:25 pm : link
In comment 12445210 DanMetroMan said:
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
So, Duda not likely to be back from DL when eligible.
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Duda just tracking, not swinging. No return date in mind. TC expects to


Did I not call this the second he started having discomfort?

Same trajectory with every single injury prognosis. Player gets hurt, team says he will likely be fine and will not need to go on the DL. This is usually followed by "he's available to PH and is feeling better".. then the player either makes an appearance or doesn't and then the team says the player will need to go on the DL but should be ready to come off when they're eligible.. then while they're on the DL, they determine that they won't be ready to come back when they're able to and that it'll be longer than expected.

It's uncanny.
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speedywheels : 8/31/2015 4:27 pm : link
In comment 12445227 speedywheels said:
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
So, Duda not likely to be back from DL when eligible.
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Marc Carig ✔ @MarcCarig
Duda just tracking, not swinging. No return date in mind. TC expects to



No surprise - Mets have not had anyone come back early yet this year...
Oops - not early, on time
RE: You dont rush a back injury  
Metnut : 8/31/2015 4:38 pm : link
In comment 12445225 Headhunter said:
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I don't care if he doesn't come back till October


Do you think he'll be ready to hit against Greinke/Kershaw after being out for 6 weeks? I'd be very worried if he's not back by mid-September.
My point is  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 4:43 pm : link
there is no reason to rush him with a balky back. If he has to be delayed to get to 100%, and it takes a while, err on the side of caution with a back. Hitting Kershaw, he is never going to do that :)
RE: My point is  
Metnut : 8/31/2015 5:01 pm : link
In comment 12445283 Headhunter said:
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there is no reason to rush him with a balky back. If he has to be delayed to get to 100%, and it takes a while, err on the side of caution with a back. Hitting Kershaw, he is never going to do that :)


Yea, Mets shouldn't rush him back from the back injury, but there does come a point when we're close to the end of the season and he has to try and give it a go. I'd put that point at somewhere between 9/15 - 9/20. If he's eligible from the DL around 9/7, that gives him an extra week, maybe two weeks, to heal up.

And yea,  
Metnut : 8/31/2015 5:01 pm : link
him vs Kershaw probably isn't the best matchup for us!
I could take a bathroom break  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 5:03 pm : link
when Duda is up against Krenshaw and not miss a thing
RE: Not  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 5:15 pm : link
In comment 12445175 DanMetroMan said:
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having a great year but scouts love Alfaro. He could be a star for the Phillies. As a Mets fan I'm scared of Roman Quinn, seems like we will be HATING this guy shortly, Cornelius Randolph has been incredible in his debut season for them, JP Crawford looks like a stud. The Phillies could turn it around "reasonably" quickly.


Quinn better stay healthy or else he will be looking for a trade. Herrera has proven to be a find in the rule 5. Nick Williams is raking in AA. Knapp may be moved to LF eventually (and he has been smashing the ball at AA). I lvoe Quinn and his speed is just awesome, but he has achilles and ankle injuries already. If he cant stay healthy, he will be out of a position.

The Phillies need the number 1 pick. They need a Puk or Pint. Alfaro broke his ankle this year, and is just rounding back. He will be at AA all next year, and look for him to be the starting catcher in 2017. His power is legit. Needs to work on defense though.
RE: Thor  
Spree_8 : 8/31/2015 6:04 pm : link
In comment 12445194 Rflairr said:
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will be better when they get back to letting Plawecki catch him.


Unless Plawecki is light years better at framing pitches I don't think it will help him much. His problem is the inability to throw his secondary pitches for strikes early in the count. Hitters have just been sitting on his fastball lately. Hopefully he finds his control, if he does he dominates. At bats like Ortiz's HR yesterday have been happening too often lately....3-1 fastballs = XBH.
Matz is rehabbing against Reading tonight  
dep026 : 8/31/2015 6:15 pm : link
Reading is loaded with talent in the Phillies system.

Williams, Crawford, Knapp are all very good to great prospects. They are going up against jake Thompson who was the main pitcher that came back in the Hamels trade. They have some career minor leaguers in Stassi and Charles. Only if Quinn didnt get hurt. Reading will win their division and make the playoffs.
RE: RE: Thor  
Shecky : 8/31/2015 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12445408 Spree_8 said:
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will be better when they get back to letting Plawecki catch him.



Unless Plawecki is light years better at framing pitches I don't think it will help him much.


There is a LOTTTTTT more that goes into than just framing. Plawecki has grown immensely over the years as a pitchers favorite friend. Instant ban for anyone that disagrees...
nice 1-2-3 inning from 'tolo  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 7:16 pm : link
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Danny Muno outrighted to vegas  
CGiants07 : 8/31/2015 7:19 pm : link
clearing a 40 man roster spot
RE: Danny Muno outrighted to vegas  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 7:20 pm : link
In comment 12445512 CGiants07 said:
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clearing a 40 man roster spot


Nice. One more. Gotta clear room for Matz and Goedell.
RE: RE: Danny Muno outrighted to vegas  
CGiants07 : 8/31/2015 7:21 pm : link
In comment 12445513 ZGiants98 said:
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clearing a 40 man roster spot



Nice. One more. Gotta clear room for Matz and Goedell.


ey jr too
Yup.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 7:27 pm : link
CGiants
Bartolo going to go 9?  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 7:45 pm : link
Only 39 pitches thru 3

This kid rocks.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 7:49 pm : link
lol
The kid was terrific!  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 7:57 pm : link
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They should do that more often  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 7:57 pm : link
what an experience that must be for a kid
Better then the entire  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 7:58 pm : link
Marlins booth by a landslide. lol
Man Ces  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 7:58 pm : link
has been coming up really small lately with RISP. Jeesh.
Cespedes has been chasing the low breaking ball with 2 strikes  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 8:00 pm : link
a whole lot.

Nice turn boys.
Glad Colon walked him  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:03 pm : link
don't need him giving up a meatball to Howard.
Fucking eh doggy  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:03 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 26s27 seconds ago
Steven Matz a 1-hit shutout thru 5 IP for Binghamton at Reading. 2 BB, 4 K. At 74 pitches.
He's ready.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:04 pm : link
Its about to be Matz time again at Citifield. Cant fucking wait.
Colon  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:05 pm : link
looking PRETTY GOOD....
Damn this Eickoff  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:13 pm : link
shutting us down again.
Geting shut down  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 8:14 pm : link
again

Come on...  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:21 pm : link
Work some fucking abats. At least get this dude's pitch count up.
Confawti!  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:24 pm : link
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Whooooo!!!  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:25 pm : link
This kid rules!!
Ummm, fellas?  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 8:25 pm : link
Wouldn't hurt to take a few pitches here and there....
Conforto!!  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 8:26 pm : link
1-0 good guys
Im sorry...  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:26 pm : link
Upton's out. No way in hell you can send Conforto back to AAA next year. You can write his name in LF in blood.
haha  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 8:28 pm : link
Colon with a hit...
loltolo  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 8:28 pm : link
Go yard grandyman
BARTOLO  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:28 pm : link
This dude pulls an okie doke. Im positive he can really hit.
I've been on the Conforto bandwagon since day 1.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 8:29 pm : link
Kid just knows how to hit. You can see it. Very rarely do you see someone come up and look as professional as he does. He should never see another bat in LV.

BIG CURTIS!!!
fuck yea!!!!!  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 8:29 pm : link
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Grandy!!  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 8:30 pm : link
Woo!!
Haha Grandy  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:30 pm : link
love you my man.
what a seriously beautiful turn of events  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 8:30 pm : link
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Well looks like  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:30 pm : link
we are about to break through on this kid again.
RE: Im sorry...  
Shecky : 8/31/2015 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12445620 ZGiants98 said:
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Upton's out. No way in hell you can send Conforto back to AAA next year. You can write his name in LF in blood.


There will hell in the media if Conforto replaces Cespedes and no "name" is signed. Yet it might be the smart move.
Conforto is my LF  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:32 pm : link
next year and Granderson is my RF at a bargain. Figure out CF, and I hope its Cespedes, but Conforto is the real deal. He's never going back to the minors.
Conforto is looking like a star in the making.  
Ira : 8/31/2015 8:32 pm : link
Kudo's to the front office on selecting him in the draft.
RE: RE: Im sorry...  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12445641 Shecky said:
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Upton's out. No way in hell you can send Conforto back to AAA next year. You can write his name in LF in blood.



There will hell in the media if Conforto replaces Cespedes and no "name" is signed. Yet it might be the smart move.


I hope Cespedes signs but after him you are likely looking at Parra types. Upton wouldn't work with Conforto and Granderson here. I really think the team will be just as dominant next year. We have good young players breaking their way on to the club like Conforto, plus full years from Syndergaard, Matz, Harvey a year removed from tommy John, a much improved pen. We'll be awesome next year regardless.
Wow  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:39 pm : link
Colon's been fantastic lately. Mixing in that change more is doing him wonders.
Don't forget about Zack Wheeler  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 8:39 pm : link
I'm looking forward to having him back every 5th day
79 pitches for Bartolo  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 8:39 pm : link
thru 6

RE: Conforto is my LF  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2015 8:40 pm : link
In comment 12445646 ZGiants98 said:
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next year and Granderson is my RF at a bargain. Figure out CF, and I hope its Cespedes, but Conforto is the real deal. He's never going back to the minors.


Even if Kelly Johnson has a good September ;)
Z. I agree  
ciggy : 8/31/2015 8:41 pm : link
If you can't sign Cespedes then you look for a true CF type like Parra. Uptown is not a great fit
Johnny Gomes  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:42 pm : link
traded to Royals.
RE: RE: Conforto is my LF  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:43 pm : link
In comment 12445660 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12445646 ZGiants98 said:


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next year and Granderson is my RF at a bargain. Figure out CF, and I hope its Cespedes, but Conforto is the real deal. He's never going back to the minors.



Even if Kelly Johnson has a good September ;)


I don't get the reference Sheck! lol
RE: Don't forget about Zack Wheeler  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:45 pm : link
In comment 12445657 Headhunter said:
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I'm looking forward to having him back every 5th day


Oh Im not. We are going to be filthy next year. And if the worst case scenario is Lagares/kirk start out in CF until Nimmo can platoon there and Cecchini and Herrera work there way onto the roster permanently with Plawecki, Im not going to be all that upset. Especially if Conforto is turning into some star right before our eyes. That said, I still hope we sign Cespedes but we are set up real nice either way.
Im so glad we didn't trade for Bruce too  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:48 pm : link
Conforto likely gets demoted. Cespedes really was the perfect fit.
RE: RE: RE: Conforto is my LF  
Shecky : 8/31/2015 8:49 pm : link
In comment 12445664 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 12445660 Eric on Li

Even if Kelly Johnson has a good September ;)



I don't get the reference Sheck! lol


???
RE: RE: RE: RE: Conforto is my LF  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:50 pm : link
In comment 12445677 Shecky said:
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In comment 12445664 ZGiants98 said:


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In comment 12445660 Eric on Li

Even if Kelly Johnson has a good September ;)



I don't get the reference Sheck! lol



???


Sorry I meant Eric. lol. Now we are all screwed up. ;)
Colon really has  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 8:51 pm : link
been impressive! Looking fresh late into the season.
Damn Colon  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 8:52 pm : link
Nasty tonight.
Maybe all our SP  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 8:53 pm : link
should pitch an inning of relief between starts.

Bartolo is a wonder  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 8:54 pm : link
he is a phenomenon. Don't bring up his drug suspension and try to cheapen his contribution. Will always remember him in a positive light down the road.
Didn't you think Conforto wasn't going to make postseason roster  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2015 8:54 pm : link
like last week? Could have sworn we had that discussion on one of the postseason roster threads, but wasn't trying to start something so no big deal if i'm misremembering.
willl Colon  
spike : 8/31/2015 8:55 pm : link
go 9? Give CLippard and Familia a break?
looks like  
spike : 8/31/2015 8:56 pm : link
Colon is working for a new contract (with another team)!

And it's going to happen!
Matz 's start tonight  
pganut : 8/31/2015 8:59 pm : link
5.1 IP, 1H, 0R, 2BB, 4K, no decision. 78 pitches, 49 striikes.
RE: Didn't you think Conforto wasn't going to make postseason roster  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:01 pm : link
In comment 12445689 Eric on Li said:
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like last week? Could have sworn we had that discussion on one of the postseason roster threads, but wasn't trying to start something so no big deal if i'm misremembering.


No I said it might be hard when Duda comes back because of how many deserving players are on the roster. I never said anything about Conforto not DESERVING to go.
Such a bullshit reason  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 9:01 pm : link
to bring the game to a screeching halt. Why are they looking for a reason to do this when they don't have to?!
If you slide feet first  
Mike in NY : 8/31/2015 9:01 pm : link
That doesn't happen
Fucking sucks.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:02 pm : link
This replay stuff is bullshit.
Conforto has been absolutely awesome  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2015 9:02 pm : link
it's really amazing how well he has played since coming up. I hope they don't put too much on him next year, but i'd absolutely have as much confidence in him batting in a big spot right now as anyone else in the lineup.
I think it's complete garbage  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 9:03 pm : link
but if anything good comes from it perhaps it's a lesson for Conforto.
RE: RE: Didn't you think Conforto wasn't going to make postseason roster  
Eric on Li : 8/31/2015 9:03 pm : link
In comment 12445705 ZGiants98 said:
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like last week? Could have sworn we had that discussion on one of the postseason roster threads, but wasn't trying to start something so no big deal if i'm misremembering.



No I said it might be hard when Duda comes back because of how many deserving players are on the roster. I never said anything about Conforto not DESERVING to go.


Yeah that was it, that he might get sent down when Duda gets back.
We likely go a pitcher short  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:07 pm : link
and Conforto has no problem making the postseason roster at this point. Where it will get interesting is if you want to go TWO players short in the pen for somebody like EYJ. Not sure we will but we'll see.
RE: RE: RE: Didn't you think Conforto wasn't going to make postseason roster  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:08 pm : link
In comment 12445713 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 12445689 Eric on Li said:


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like last week? Could have sworn we had that discussion on one of the postseason roster threads, but wasn't trying to start something so no big deal if i'm misremembering.



No I said it might be hard when Duda comes back because of how many deserving players are on the roster. I never said anything about Conforto not DESERVING to go.



Yeah that was it, that he might get sent down when Duda gets back.


Ummm yeah.. well that was exactly the situation before Duda's injury saved him. He was set to go down.
Dude Colon is toying with them  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:09 pm : link
throwing 93 MPH to boot? What is going on here? lol
just came on to sing  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:09 pm : link
when I paaaaaaaaint my masterpiece.
Colon complete game shutout?  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:09 pm : link
Have to let him try right?
100 pitches after 8  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:09 pm : link
Collins has to let Colon finish!

bring tolo out for the 9th  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 9:10 pm : link
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100 pitches  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 9:10 pm : link
Does he get to bat again?

Making that playoff 25 man roster  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:10 pm : link
will be one of the hardest things to do for Collins and Alderson
It's only a 3 run game  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 9:11 pm : link
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Don Bartolo is 42 years old.  
Ira : 8/31/2015 9:11 pm : link
Let Clippard finish it.
Cardinals better not  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:12 pm : link
shit the bed this series. Losing 0-1 in the 4th.
I'm sure if...  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:13 pm : link
Conforto didn't get called out with that bullshit call, Colon bats in the 7th and he's pitching the 9th.

And I say BS call because SOME calls should just be left alone.
Boo  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:13 pm : link
Come on Collins. Colon deserved the 9th. Oh well. Hell of a performance Bart.
Damn I wanted to see Bart throw a complete game  
Ralph.C : 8/31/2015 9:16 pm : link
Why not? Would have been a shot for a classic.
Wish we let Bart keep going.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:17 pm : link
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Who's the last to do it?  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:17 pm : link
Wheeler last year against the Marlins?
our bullpen has been so taxed that  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:17 pm : link
I didn't mind letting Colon finish up. He's been superb tonight. A blast to the past to 2005
With the low strikes being called  
pganut : 8/31/2015 9:18 pm : link
Familia should mow down the Phils in the 9th. Let's see if the young ump stays true to the first 8 1/2 innings.
This is a time where I will give Collins a little flak.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:21 pm : link
Familia has been pitching a lot lately. Should have let Bart keep going. I bet he would have closed it out.
who the hell  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:21 pm : link
learns a new pitch 3/4 through the season? lol
Think Familia  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:22 pm : link
get's Benitez's record this year.
I love the power splitter but he's got to stop leaning on it so hard.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:23 pm : link
.
speaking of which  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:24 pm : link
I have a memory of going to Camden for a Mets v O's and getting there very early.. Dotel was pitching, threw a one hitter.. ANYWAY..

I watched Hershiser teach Yoshii a sinker type pitch before the game..it was fascinating. Yoshii used it his next start.

Nothing to do with this game, but I needed some Bourbon tonight, so I'm chatty.
this out is a must  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:24 pm : link
before Howard.
Don't want Howard up  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 9:24 pm : link
as the tying run

Oh boy.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:24 pm : link
.
Geezus come on  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:25 pm : link
End this game.
Unreal  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 9:25 pm : link
he can't have an easy outing with shitty hitters up
Should have let Colon finish  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:25 pm : link
Terry!
It's a shame this one has  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 9:25 pm : link
to be sweat out.
Hanging slider?  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:26 pm : link
Throw 100 MPH sinkers and end this.
Collins had no business using Familia here  
jeff57 : 8/31/2015 9:26 pm : link
after his difficult fave yesterday
Unbelievable.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:28 pm : link
There was no reason to send him fucking out there tonight.
RE: Collins had no business using Familia here  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 9:28 pm : link
In comment 12445778 jeff57 said:
Quote:
after his difficult fave yesterday


You can blame Collins. But Familla's got to start maning up. He keeps coming in pitching like a scared puppy
Stuff like this  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:28 pm : link
is why I'm not comfortable with Collins as manager. He has no intuition for his pitchers.
RE: Unbelievable.  
jeff57 : 8/31/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12445779 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
There was no reason to send him fucking out there tonight.


Especially with Reed available. Collins is a panicky manager.
RE: RE: Collins had no business using Familia here  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12445780 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 12445778 jeff57 said:


Quote:


after his difficult fave yesterday



You can blame Collins. But Familla's got to start maning up. He keeps coming in pitching like a scared puppy


I don't know. Familia has been VERY good for about a month now. Thought this shit was over.
Huge DP.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:30 pm : link
Just finish this shit
It felt like the right move was leaving in Colon  
Ralph.C : 8/31/2015 9:30 pm : link
Even before this mess. Now we have problems.
Ill take it.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:30 pm : link
one more out.
phew  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:30 pm : link
thanks Frenchy
plus  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:31 pm : link
I dont think Familia is available for tomorrow's game.
Phew!  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 9:31 pm : link
.
That was scary.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:32 pm : link
.
This Eichoff kid is pretty good  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:32 pm : link
The Mets only got 4 hits off of him very promising for the Phils
0-2  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 9:32 pm : link
Why are you giving him anything to hit
ok  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:32 pm : link
I can't remember the last time my heart beat like that for a ballgame less than 3 hours from September.. that's a good thing.
BAM.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:34 pm : link
Fuck yeah
Cardinals up 3-1 now  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:34 pm : link
Nice.
whew  
Rflairr : 8/31/2015 9:34 pm : link
.
Whoo.  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:35 pm : link
Nice win.
Amen!  
Stufftherun : 8/31/2015 9:35 pm : link
Such a grind and it didn't have to be.
The next save opp  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:35 pm : link
should go to Clippard and Reed setting up the 8th tomorrow :)
It wasn't pretty Jeurys  
sphinx : 8/31/2015 9:35 pm : link
but it's a save

Ours is in the bank  
Headhunter : 8/31/2015 9:35 pm : link
pressure is on the Nats
I'm watching the Phillies feed  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 9:36 pm : link
(living in PA)

someone give me Howie or Gary call ;)
Thank God!  
Ralph.C : 8/31/2015 9:36 pm : link
Nice!
Cards up 3-1 on WSH  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:36 pm : link
Let's get this back to 6.5
christ that was difficult  
GMenLTS : 8/31/2015 9:38 pm : link
.
Magic number is now  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:39 pm : link
#

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Anybody been watching Heyward  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:48 pm : link
in CF this year? I know he only plays there part time but is he good enough? Might be an interesting option after Cespedes.
Those shitty  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 9:51 pm : link
Red Sox are beating the Yanks. Man....
survey/quiz  
spike : 8/31/2015 9:57 pm : link
Can you name the Mets starting pitchers since 2005?


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RE: Anybody been watching Heyward  
Shecky : 8/31/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12445827 ZGiants98 said:
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in CF this year? I know he only plays there part time but is he good enough? Might be an interesting option after Cespedes.


Hayward would be a perfect solution, if he accepts a reasonable contract. Hoping he gets overlooked. But cards rarely lose a guy they don't want to lose.
rather overpay for cespedes  
CMicks3110 : 8/31/2015 10:11 pm : link
we already have lefty power in conforto, duda, granderson; plus we would forfeit another draft pick, which i rather not do.
i think the only way we keep cespedes though  
CMicks3110 : 8/31/2015 10:16 pm : link
is if we make it to the WS, don't necessarily have to win, but we would need the revenues generated from the post-season plus the residual ticket sales uptick from having an exciting team next year. Our commitments next year, i beileve another poster said was about $89, so we should definitely be able to buy cespedes if we make it that far, question is will he take a good offer before free agency.
There's a million scenarios  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 10:19 pm : link
where we sign Cespedes and the payroll is LESS than it is now in 2016. Doubt the money is the issue. We have a ton of dead weight coming off(sorry Colon, no pun intended.) ;)
Nats take the lead  
timintey : 8/31/2015 10:21 pm : link
on a Zimmerman bomb. Shit!
RE: Nats take the lead  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12445853 timintey said:
Quote:
on a Zimmerman bomb. Shit!


Damn it.
Cards 2 on, none out  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 10:29 pm : link
.
cards-nats is the free game on  
spike : 8/31/2015 10:33 pm : link
mlb tv
piscotti  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:40 pm : link
tiede 5-5  
spike : 8/31/2015 10:42 pm : link
peralta singles w 2 outs
5-5  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:42 pm : link
thank you Williams for not putting Storen in ;)
Cards back on top!  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 10:47 pm : link
Suck it Nats. 7-5.
Heyward!!!  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:47 pm : link
JAHBLOWME!

nice.
Wong  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:51 pm : link
adds a run... this is good
8-5  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 10:52 pm : link
Suck it, Nats. Hard
8-5  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 10:52 pm : link
Let's go, Cards!
8-5  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 10:52 pm : link
Nats suck.
mark reynolds  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:53 pm : link
you suck.. way to bury them ;)
watched the end of the Yanks game  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:55 pm : link
that Bird kid really screwed the pooch in a big spot.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 10:57 pm : link
A friend of mine who is a Yankee fan was just giving me shit last night for the Mets losing 2 of 3 to Boston. "The Red Sox suck.. all the Mets do is beat bad teams and can't even beat Boston" ..

Wonder if he'll have anything to say now.
RE: .  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 10:58 pm : link
In comment 12445928 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
A friend of mine who is a Yankee fan was just giving me shit last night for the Mets losing 2 of 3 to Boston. "The Red Sox suck.. all the Mets do is beat bad teams and can't even beat Boston" ..

Wonder if he'll have anything to say now.


yes.. it will have something to do with the umps strike zone.
Ill take a Cubs loss too  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 10:59 pm : link
We are only right behind them too for a potential wild card spot just in case disaster strikes. (don't think it will) ;)
Nats lose  
pganut : 8/31/2015 11:23 pm : link
Back to a 6.5 game lead.
6.5 up boys  
ZGiants98 : 8/31/2015 11:23 pm : link
Night!
Woo-hoo!!  
speedywheels : 8/31/2015 11:26 pm : link
Suck it, Nats...
Rendon gets picked off first base  
SJGiant : 8/31/2015 11:31 pm : link
In ninth inning with men on first and second, no one out and Bryce Harper up. Couldn't happen to a better team
RE: Rendon gets picked off first base  
feelflows : 8/31/2015 11:42 pm : link
In comment 12445982 SJGiant said:
Quote:
In ninth inning with men on first and second, no one out and Bryce Harper up. Couldn't happen to a better team


Seriously? ??

That's rich.
tick, tick, tick  
sphinx : 9/1/2015 7:25 am : link
163 - 73 - 64 = 26

Minor League highlights=  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 7:55 am : link
Herrera 2-4, HR, K (has been slumping)
Nimmo 0-3, BB (.154 last 10 games)
Reynolds 1-4, HR
Black 0.2 hit bb, (has been AWFUL)
Rivera 2-4
Matz 5.1 1 hit 0 runs 2 walks 4 k's (BEAST)
Goeddel 0.2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 bb (has struggled in rehab)
McNeil 1-2
Becerra 1-4, 2b, 2 k
Garcia 1-4, 3b
Katz 0-4, 3 k's (.091 with 17 k's last 34 ab's wow)
Knapp 7.2 innings 7 hits 1 run 2 walks 7 k's (Surprised he's not in A+ yet)
Mateo 2.1 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 4 k's (nice outing)
Delgado 7 innings 3 hits 9 k's
Palsha 1 inning 3 k's (possible MLB relief arm)
Ramos 2-4 (finishing very strong)
Kacz 3-5 (beast debut, very old for the level)
Sanchez 1-4
DMM  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 8:02 am : link
you don't think Becerra is a no-brainer to keep in rule V? Especially given the exodus of prospects with all the 2nd half trades (though all of the traded players by the Mets were pitchers)

He's 20 years old with a good bat.

No idea about his D, but given the lack of OF bats in the Mets system figured it would give the Mets some extra incentive to keep him
RE: DMM  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:03 am : link
In comment 12446078 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
you don't think Becerra is a no-brainer to keep in rule V? Especially given the exodus of prospects with all the 2nd half trades (though all of the traded players by the Mets were pitchers)

He's 20 years old with a good bat.

No idea about his D, but given the lack of OF bats in the Mets system figured it would give the Mets some extra incentive to keep him


PJ,
Not based on talent. Based on being in low A ball. These types very, very, very rarely get claimed. Teams have an extremely hard time hiding Becerra's on an MLB roster. He'd likely be embarrassingly bad at the MLB level in 2016.
Conforto has one of better looking swings I've seen in a long  
chris r : 9/1/2015 8:05 am : link
time.

Its almost impossible to imagine his swing not resulting in a very good major league hitter.
92  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:05 am : link
k's in 427 ab's in low-A ball likely = hilariously bad vs. MLB pitching April 2016. They may yet protect him (The Twins protected Kepler last year) but it would be somewhat unusual.
Missed Lindsay  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:08 am : link
Solid game for Lindsay, 1 for 3 with a walk (and 2 Ks). His numbers in Brooklyn so far: 3 for 20 with 3 walks, 8 Ks, 23 plate appearances.
Lindsay  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:11 am : link
pretty solid debut all things considered. The K's are something to watch though (29 in 89 ab's)
Mets go 15-16 for Sept  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 8:15 am : link
The Nats go 21-9. Think it happens?
The  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:16 am : link
race is ova! Mets are going to the playoffs wooo
Knapp  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2015 8:17 am : link
Started the year in A+ but got hit very hard
RE: Mets go 15-16 for Sept  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 8:18 am : link
In comment 12446093 Headhunter said:
Quote:
The Nats go 21-9. Think it happens?


anything is possible, but no I don't think that happens.

the Mets pitching should be able to prevent prolonged losing streaks. And when you get a gem like last night from Colon it makes long losing streaks that much more unlikely. If Niese can get out of his 3-start funk it would make it that much more unlikely.

Actually I see the Mets going  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 8:21 am : link
20-11 or 19-12 at worst
RE: Knapp  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:24 am : link
In comment 12446098 Mike in NY said:
Quote:
Started the year in A+ but got hit very hard


It was 13.2 total innings for a polished college starter. Very strange that was enough to stick him in Savannah the rest of the year (2nd full season there)
I believed this before last night  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 8:27 am : link
but last night makes it a discussion point.

You starting Colon in a playoff game?
I just don't want things to even  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 8:29 am : link
get close enough to have to sweat it out and I'd love for the Cubs and Giants to lose and get the Mets some breathing room with a WC fallback (though I hate the WC now).

Speaking of deadline acquisitions...the Bluejays "announced" they were going for it this year, made some bold moves (Tulo/Price) and it's paid off big time. They went 21 - 6 in August. One of the best months in baseball history.

their run differential is +191 which seems insane.

they turned an 8 game deficit into a 1.5 game lead since acquiring Tulo.

This is why I don't think anyone should be counting the Nats out.
There's basically no chance Colon is getting a postseason start.  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 8:31 am : link
The best case for him would be finding a spot in the pen.
RE: I just don't want things to even  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:33 am : link
In comment 12446120 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
get close enough to have to sweat it out and I'd love for the Cubs and Giants to lose and get the Mets some breathing room with a WC fallback (though I hate the WC now).

Speaking of deadline acquisitions...the Bluejays "announced" they were going for it this year, made some bold moves (Tulo/Price) and it's paid off big time. They went 21 - 6 in August. One of the best months in baseball history.

their run differential is +191 which seems insane.

they turned an 8 game deficit into a 1.5 game lead since acquiring Tulo.

This is why I don't think anyone should be counting the Nats out.


Deadline has passed and the Nats just lost Span for the season and Strasburg is again hurt. Blue Jays "going for it" and the Nats situations don't seem at all parallel to me
RE: I just don't want things to even  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 8:34 am : link
In comment 12446120 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
get close enough to have to sweat it out and I'd love for the Cubs and Giants to lose and get the Mets some breathing room with a WC fallback (though I hate the WC now).

Speaking of deadline acquisitions...the Bluejays "announced" they were going for it this year, made some bold moves (Tulo/Price) and it's paid off big time. They went 21 - 6 in August. One of the best months in baseball history.

their run differential is +191 which seems insane.

they turned an 8 game deficit into a 1.5 game lead since acquiring Tulo.

This is why I don't think anyone should be counting the Nats out.


The Blue Jays significantly improved their team by adding Price and Tulo. The Nats didn't do anything like that and actually re-lost Span for the year. The Papelbon acquisition seems to have done nothing but piss people off.
Giants  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:34 am : link
added de Aza, nice depth move
Should  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 8:35 am : link
also be noted the Jays run differential was fantastic even before their run which suggested a coming record correction (maybe not on this level) but that they were extremely "unlucky"
I know the deadline has passed  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 8:41 am : link
but like Mets getting Wright back Rendon missed a big chunk of the season and is now back and playing better, Desmond has been much better in August and how long will that pitching staff under-perform?

I wasn't saying the Nationals acquired anyone to make them better, just the players/team they have, has under-performed and it would not shock me at all to see them reel off a 21 - 6 month (or close to it).

RE: There's basically no chance Colon is getting a postseason start.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 8:41 am : link
In comment 12446124 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
The best case for him would be finding a spot in the pen.



Well if Thor is at his innings limit and is going to the pen, what's the rotation going to look like, Harvey, DeGrom, Niese and ____?
It would shock me  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 8:48 am : link
They are slightly better than mediocre. They are done, stick a fork in them. Scherzer has not been the same since his no-no. Ross is solid. Zimmerman better than average. Strasburg is an injury waiting to happen. Gonzalez can only beat the Mets. Is Fister still in their rotation? Roark a one year wonder. They fucked up Storen by bringing in Paplebon. Their lineup with Harper kind of dangerous
RE: RE: There's basically no chance Colon is getting a postseason start.  
chris r : 9/1/2015 8:49 am : link
In comment 12446146 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
In comment 12446124 arcarsenal said:


Quote:


The best case for him would be finding a spot in the pen.




Well if Thor is at his innings limit and is going to the pen, what's the rotation going to look like, Harvey, DeGrom, Niese and ____?


Matz.
A nice article about Conforto in today's Post  
Ira : 9/1/2015 8:53 am : link
His numbers now are .293 .392 .537 .928 OPS
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I believe the Mets are 20-9 in the month of August  
Canton : 9/1/2015 8:54 am : link
They've done that ten times in Mets history. Out of the ten , two of them were World championship seasons.
I wonder if "light hitting"  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 10:12 am : link
Guillorme may wind up not so light hitting (for average at least)


Quote:
Savannah Sand Gnats ‏@gnatsbaseball 1m1 minute ago

MVP! MVP! Luis Guillorme was named SAL MVP today! Guillorme leads the SAL in hits and average #LGG... http://fb.me/4LXdPqUYJ
RE: RE: RE: There's basically no chance Colon is getting a postseason start.  
schabadoo : 9/1/2015 10:21 am : link
In comment 12446166 chris r said:
Quote:
In comment 12446146 Ten Ton Hammer said:


Quote:


In comment 12446124 arcarsenal said:


Quote:


The best case for him would be finding a spot in the pen.




Well if Thor is at his innings limit and is going to the pen, what's the rotation going to look like, Harvey, DeGrom, Niese and ____?



Matz.


I think it depends on Sept. A rookie with a few starts who's been out doesn't seem like a lock.
RE: I wonder if  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 10:31 am : link
In comment 12446364 pjcas18 said:
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Guillorme may wind up not so light hitting (for average at least)




Quote:


Savannah Sand Gnats ‏@gnatsbaseball 1m1 minute ago

MVP! MVP! Luis Guillorme was named SAL MVP today! Guillorme leads the SAL in hits and average #LGG... http://fb.me/4LXdPqUYJ



Badler likes him but ability to hit for average has never been the question. The concern is the absolute lack of power ala Tovar. Great season thougu
.  
pjcas18 : 9/1/2015 10:53 am : link
Quote:
Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo 29s29 seconds ago

On the first day of Sept., the #Mets have hit their best playoff odds of the season: 93.5%, per Baseball Prospectus.
Guillorme  
CMicks3110 : 9/1/2015 11:07 am : link
at the very least, has gained some trade value iMO, i doubt he's our long-term answer, at any point in his career, at least with this regime
RE: .  
spike : 9/1/2015 11:17 am : link
In comment 12446479 pjcas18 said:
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Quote:


Anthony DiComo ‏@AnthonyDiComo 29s29 seconds ago

On the first day of Sept., the #Mets have hit their best playoff odds of the season: 93.5%, per Baseball Prospectus.



I like it better when it is 100%
Organizational playoff odds  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 12:21 pm : link
Looks like its not only the parent club in the playoff hunt.
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Conforto's defense  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 12:46 pm : link
Looks like he's going to be a pretty decent defender in LF.

Quote:
...we were all told he was a below average defender and yet he's posted a +3 DRS so far which across a full season equals a +20.3 defensive UZR. A mark only the most elite of OF'ers even sniff.

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SportsClubStats  
pganut : 9/1/2015 1:31 pm : link
Which I use a lot for hockey, has the Mets at a 96% chance of making the playoffs.
SportsClubStats - MLB - ( New Window )
RE: Conforto's defense  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 1:50 pm : link
In comment 12446782 sshin05 said:
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Looks like he's going to be a pretty decent defender in LF.



Quote:


...we were all told he was a below average defender and yet he's posted a +3 DRS so far which across a full season equals a +20.3 defensive UZR. A mark only the most elite of OF'ers even sniff.

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Not sure we were told he would be "below average". More like average ish. Also be careful with crazy small sample sizes for defense. Remember everyone was citing DRS and UZR at SS for Wilmer as proof he was actually "good" at SS. This year he's at -8 DRS, and -4.2 UZR/150.
From  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 1:52 pm : link
June-

Conforto's profile is left field only, but he's far from a butcher out there. He has good instincts in the outfield that cover for his lack of foot speed. His arm is fringy, but plays up due to the accuracy of his throws. He throws accurately on the run and against his body. He is a better athlete than his stocky build suggests and should be serviceable in left field for a while, though it is likely that the body eventually forces him to first base in his thirties. There isn't much else to say about his glove, but in this instance that isn't really a bad thing.

Glove (LF)

Current Grade: 50 (Average)

Future Grade: 50 (Average)


Seems pretty accurate to me
Muno  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 1:56 pm : link
has been outrighted for EYJ, 1 more has to go once Goeddel returns. Horrendous O'Flaherty would be one possibility
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:03 pm : link
AAA-Verrett
AA-Ynoa
A+ Reyes
A+ TBD
Savannah-Oswalt
Savannah- Flexen
BK- Jacobson
Kingsport- Uceta (Kingsport debut)
..  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:06 pm : link
TJ today for UDFA Keaton Aldridge

Keaton Aldridge ‏@Kaldi_23 4h4 hours ago Queens, NY
Brand new elbow coming my way in a couple hours

I believe he's #22 in terms of pitchers with TJ in the Mets organization.
Reed  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:15 pm : link
Hes a big strong guy with a bad delivery. If you throw strikes with that kind of delivery its called deception, if you dont throw strikes, its called a bad delivery, one MLB scout told The Posts Kevin Kernan. Hes a fastball-slider guy who cant throw enough strikes. I dont think he had that mentality to pitch the ninth inning. Hes going to walk people. His arm strength isnt what it was he used to be in the mid to upper 90s and that helped him get by. But if he can clean up that delivery a bit, he can be effective and [Mets pitching coach] Dan Warthen has been a miracle worker over there.
One NL executive also thinks Reeds power and adjusted mechanics will help the Mets.
Physical kid with arm strength. Has shown a plus slider in the past. Best when he pitches down in the zone, the exec said. Obviously didnt have much success in Arizona but seemed to have straightened out his delivery since he was recalled from Triple-A.
.  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:24 pm : link
Adam Rubin ✔ @AdamRubinESPN
Bobby Parnell officially activated from DL with Erik Goeddel, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Steven Matz. So 7 extra players (EY, Plawecki, Campbell).
RE: RE: Conforto's defense  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 2:26 pm : link
In comment 12446967 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
In comment 12446782 sshin05 said:


Quote:


Looks like he's going to be a pretty decent defender in LF.



Quote:


...we were all told he was a below average defender and yet he's posted a +3 DRS so far which across a full season equals a +20.3 defensive UZR. A mark only the most elite of OF'ers even sniff.

Link - ( New Window )



Not sure we were told he would be "below average". More like average ish. Also be careful with crazy small sample sizes for defense. Remember everyone was citing DRS and UZR at SS for Wilmer as proof he was actually "good" at SS. This year he's at -8 DRS, and -4.2 UZR/150.


I realize its sample size, but up to now his defense isn't so bad. So i should have said, he "might" be a decent defender.
I  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:28 pm : link
think more likely than not he IS a decent defender. I'm simply saying that's pretty consistent with what the scouts have said for a while. The SSS is very likely overrating his defense like it did with Wilmer, that's all. He reminds me a bit of Matt Holliday out there. Kinda a weird build, not quick but moves reasonably well and gets to what he needs to.
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speedywheels : 9/1/2015 2:30 pm : link
In comment 12447063 DanMetroMan said:
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Adam Rubin ✔ @AdamRubinESPN
Bobby Parnell officially activated from DL with Erik Goeddel, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Steven Matz. So 7 extra players (EY, Plawecki, Campbell).


So the only bullpen help is Goeddel (IMO, Parnell is a liability)? What about Alvarez?
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sshin05 : 9/1/2015 2:35 pm : link
him being not bad as a defender. Kinda has the football build he probably inherited from his dad. We'll see how he turns out, hopefully better than expected.
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DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:36 pm : link
In comment 12447086 speedywheels said:
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In comment 12447063 DanMetroMan said:


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Adam Rubin ✔ @AdamRubinESPN
Bobby Parnell officially activated from DL with Erik Goeddel, Kirk Nieuwenhuis and Steven Matz. So 7 extra players (EY, Plawecki, Campbell).



So the only bullpen help is Goeddel (IMO, Parnell is a liability)? What about Alvarez?


Alvarez is eligible to return on Thursday. Verrett likely comes up for Thor's spot starts.
Cespedes  
DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 2:43 pm : link
shoulder is something to monitor. Last 8 games

.188/.297/.531
Gomez  
Deej : 9/1/2015 2:46 pm : link
hitting singles. Still not doing much though, that meaningless Yankees homer aside.
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Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 3:33 pm : link
In comment 12447081 DanMetroMan said:
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think more likely than not he IS a decent defender. I'm simply saying that's pretty consistent with what the scouts have said for a while. The SSS is very likely overrating his defense like it did with Wilmer, that's all. He reminds me a bit of Matt Holliday out there. Kinda a weird build, not quick but moves reasonably well and gets to what he needs to.


It sounds weird to be saying this, but since his mobility and speed aren't going to get better (you'd think), is he looking at a different position later in his career? 1B?
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DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 4:21 pm : link
In comment 12447266 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 12447081 DanMetroMan said:


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think more likely than not he IS a decent defender. I'm simply saying that's pretty consistent with what the scouts have said for a while. The SSS is very likely overrating his defense like it did with Wilmer, that's all. He reminds me a bit of Matt Holliday out there. Kinda a weird build, not quick but moves reasonably well and gets to what he needs to.



It sounds weird to be saying this, but since his mobility and speed aren't going to get better (you'd think), is he looking at a different position later in his career? 1B?


I'm not too concerned about an eventual move to 1b anytime soon. If it ever happens it will either be late career or simply to fit in another superior defensive OF/another bat in general.
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arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 4:23 pm : link
In comment 12447081 DanMetroMan said:
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think more likely than not he IS a decent defender. I'm simply saying that's pretty consistent with what the scouts have said for a while. The SSS is very likely overrating his defense like it did with Wilmer, that's all. He reminds me a bit of Matt Holliday out there. Kinda a weird build, not quick but moves reasonably well and gets to what he needs to.


"Reasonably well" is getting close to "pretty good".... careful now! :)
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DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 4:34 pm : link
Thor's spot for a start

Mike Vorkunov ‏@Mike_Vorkunov 30m30 minutes ago
Matz will pitch "sometime soon," TC says. Mets won't go to a 6 man rotation
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DanMetroMan : 9/1/2015 5:11 pm : link
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