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Peyton Manning said they are not running plays from playbook

jbeintherockies : 8/31/2015 9:04 pm
I was listening to Denver's sports talk this morning on my drive into work. One of the hosts of the show stated that Peyton told them the Broncos are not running the plays found in their playbook during the preseason games.

I have no idea if that is true or not; but it makes sense. Why give opponents anything to look at to prepare for the first game?

I am passing that tid-bit along because there are a lot of Giants fans ready to jump off a bridge and I don't want anyone to do that (especially Mr. Editor). There is a chance that what you are seeing the Giants run isn't what you will see them run during the regular season.

To further put things in perspective, look at the top 10 quarterbacks during this preseason (link). Ryan Nassib is outplaying Eli and Brock Osweiler is outplaying Peyton. Does anyone really think the Brock is the better choice than Peyton (besides Eric) or Garrapolo is a better choice than Brady (37% QB rating and two picks) or Brett Hundley (who the hell is that?) is a better option than Aaron Rodgers? How often have we seen guys look like world-beaters against second stringers only to disappear against the starters (DT Willie Joseph comes to mind).

We all need to keep this preseason thing in perspective.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/31/2015 9:07 pm : link
Every team is running some plays from their play book in the preseason. They don't have the luxury of time to learn and practice plays they won't use.

But most teams don't game plan and show their best stuff in the preseason. That's nothing new.

But since everyone does it, what's your point? Football still comes down to blocking, hitting, and tackling.
I hope that is why Kuhn has been playing with the ones  
George from PA : 8/31/2015 9:23 pm : link
Our real DL is not be shown until the Cowboys.
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Danny Kanell : 8/31/2015 9:31 pm : link
Anyone that wants to dismiss the ineptitude of what's gone on on the field in these 3 games as "it's just preseason, it means nothing" is kidding themselves.

This team has a serious lack of available talent, admittedly partly due to injury, partly due to poor talent evaluation, partly due to holding on to players too long after they have proven to not be NFL caliber and partly due to bad luck. Add all that up, this is a bad team. Luckily we have Eli, so we have a fighting chance if he plays out of his mind (he's done it before).
I'd feel better if it was our offense I was really worried about.  
arcarsenal : 8/31/2015 9:38 pm : link
It's not. It's the defense.
and this is why I'm surprised that so many BBIers  
SHO'NUFF : 8/31/2015 10:04 pm : link
are jumping off the Eli train. It was the exact same thing last year.
this thread  
mdc1 : 8/31/2015 10:05 pm : link
is a showcase of denial about what is happening on that football field from a fundamentals perspective as Eric mentions.
Fundamentals points to bad coaching  
SHO'NUFF : 8/31/2015 10:34 pm : link
not the talent...The real problem is a combination of both. I agree with Eric on all his points except on the subject of Eli.
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Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 8/31/2015 10:43 pm : link
In comment 12445718 Eric from BBI said:
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Football still comes down to blocking, hitting, and tackling.


This why I'm very excited to see what our first three draft picks do this season and beyond. All should greatly help from a fundamentals perspective.

My mouth is watering at what flowers will do to a Giants running game that has been MIA for years now
SHO'NUFF  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/31/2015 10:52 pm : link
That's not what I'm saying. John Jerry sucks not because of coaching. Markus Kuhn sucks not because of coaching.
RE: I hope that is why Kuhn has been playing with the ones  
djstat : 8/31/2015 10:54 pm : link
In comment 12445762 George from PA said:
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Our real DL is not be shown until the Cowboys.


Has it occured to you Kuhn is playing because he is the best option...and healthy?
hold off on that excitement  
SHO'NUFF : 8/31/2015 10:57 pm : link
wait until those 3 have been under the tutelage of our coaching staff for at least half the season...I'm sure those steady fundamentals will go to shit.
Kuhn is a coach's player... like someone else pointed out:  
SHO'NUFF : 8/31/2015 11:04 pm : link
maybe he's good in the film room and knows the playbook...and physically stands out in the weight room...and that's good enough for TC and Flaherty.
Mr. Editor  
jbeintherockies : 8/31/2015 11:06 pm : link
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But since everyone does it, what's your point?

My point is simply very few first string offenses are looking very good right now. Although some of the top QB's in the NFL are getting shown-up by their backups; it is meaningless.

RE: SHO'NUFF  
SHO'NUFF : 8/31/2015 11:06 pm : link
In comment 12445908 Eric from BBI said:
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That's not what I'm saying. John Jerry sucks not because of coaching. Markus Kuhn sucks not because of coaching.


well...the coaching staff keeps putting them out there on the field, so indirectly, it's bad coaching =p
I usually agree with you Danny  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/31/2015 11:08 pm : link
But disagree totally here...

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Danny Kanell : 9:31 pm : link : reply
Anyone that wants to dismiss the ineptitude of what's gone on on the field in these 3 games as "it's just preseason, it means nothing" is kidding themselves.


It is just preseason and it does mean nothing. There is plenty of reason to doubt what this team is capable of, but none of that would be any different no matter what was to happen in August.

This is especially true with a new coordinator running the defense. We saw it last year on offense. The offense looked clueless through all of preseason and the first game of the year. Then all of a sudden about halfway through the Arizona game something clicked and things were very different on O moving forward.

The defense is going to bad, but it also going to improve from what we've seen. I believe the Giants will ultimately be a 500 football team, but I think they'll be in contention for a playoff birth until the very end.
The Eagles are shredding teams  
Mr. Bungle : 9/1/2015 12:12 am : link
with their vanilla preseason stuff.

Can't wait to see their real playbook...
RE: I hope that is why Kuhn has been playing with the ones  
Tuckrule : 9/1/2015 6:20 am : link
In comment 12445762 George from PA said:
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Our real DL is not be shown until the Cowboys.


We don't want to show the NFL who jay fing Bromley is!!!!!
So Peyton says they aren't running  
Randy in CT : 9/1/2015 6:49 am : link
plays from the playbook, but Eric says that they are...Hmmm....
Tuckrule LOL. Bromley will surprise them Cowboys  
Giants61 : 9/1/2015 7:33 am : link
:)
I think the offense is going to be good  
Deej : 9/1/2015 8:06 am : link
possibly top 10. But the defense lacks talent. Everything would have to go right for this defense to be even average.
RE: The Eagles are shredding teams  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 8:16 am : link
In comment 12446011 Mr. Bungle said:
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with their vanilla preseason stuff.

Can't wait to see their real playbook...


Nothing new here. Same story for the past 15 years.
Yeah,  
Doomster : 9/1/2015 10:51 am : link
Gilbride never ran those "super secret" plays in preseason either....unfortunately, he didn't run them in the regular season, his last two years, either...
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