My take on his not moving on the HR. I think, like Z said, he thought it was gone and he was not giving the Red Sox the satisfaction of turning around. Almost like, "It's gone. So what. We are going to come back and kick your asses in the bottom of the inning."
I really think it was more machismo than lack of effort. Everything about how Cespedes plays is all attitude, being slick and cool, sticking your chest out. He grew up playing baseball in Cuba not the US, so he formed his playing style down there and maybe he doesn't realize how some of his antics appear to US fans. Or maybe he doesn't care. That's just the way he plays.
Couldn't have said it better. And my fear is that people are starting to paint this picture that he's this selfish player that only cares about himself and his stats. The guy is a month from free agency, and busting his ass legging out a triple losing by 9 runs. That doesn't compute for me.
he said that he thinks he can return for the playoffs, that would be a godsend if he was as effective as he was in april
Wouldn't count on it. Alvarez has been unreal against lefties though in Vegas of all places. I think he'll be an effective LOOGY in a few days. If not I feel great with Gilmartin in tough situations.
but God help Terry if we lose out on anything over one win. He literally took this would be win, threw it in the trash, poured gasoline all over it, and lit the whole can on fire.
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Honest about his bullpen decisions, Collins admits he could have used Gilmartin or Goeddel in the 6th. But he wanted Parnell to be that guy.
Once he walked the first two batters you pull him and when you do you don't go to EOF and C Torres. At least at that point get in somebody good to clean up the mess. Every single one of those runs is on Terry. Ugh. Anyways. Tomorrow is a new day.
He's trying to get Parnell out there in a spot where he can succeed and get some confidence back. Problem is, we are in September now and now's not the time for those types of morale booster experiments. Just can't do it.
Terry was going to give those 3 last chances to prove something in a game that they were losing but yet still reachable.
Personally, I feel bad for Parnell and Torres, they did admirable job when the team stunk. Now they are probably the outside looking in when playoff time comes.
If I had my choice of who I'd want on the mound to get us this series tomorrow night, it's the guy we have going tomorrow. I trust Harvey to get us right back on the winning track by being dominant.
Sandy may need to just cut Parnell to stop Terry from using him Â
I don't really care that he used him today, it was a predictably bad call but you can second guess any BP decision that doesn't work out. That said, they absolutely cannot use him anymore. He's cost them, what? Each of the last 4 games he's appeared in?
He's trying to get Parnell out there in a spot where he can succeed and get some confidence back. Problem is, we are in September now and now's not the time for those types of morale booster experiments. Just can't do it.
The problem with that logic is that this is the same guy that uses Familia every single night in blowouts because "we have to win games" and wouldn't play the younger players last year because "he has to win games". Trying to get Parnell's confidence going in a game of this magnitude in September is absurd. There's no excuse. The whole pen was rested and he literally had 6 fantastic options just staring at him waiting for a call.
with him compounding the issue. Ok. Parnell is imploding. He throws the ball away.... Why go to EOF there who has also been getting tattooed? Just terrible. I could justify one move like Parnell but fucking up the situation three times over is just too much.
Is there even a single poster who would have done that?
I mean we disagree on just about everything here, but I can't recall a single person saying Parnell should be in the pen.
It seems blatantly obvious that his arm is still not fully recovered. He was shelled in the minors and he was shelled in the majors. How much more evidence do you need?
that he had EVERY intention to get Gilmartin and Reed into the game no matter what. They needed work. So you identify Parnell, EOF, and Torres as the guys to bring in when its close and identify Gilmartin, Reed, and Goedell as your garbage time guys?? Freaking crazy
Is there even a single poster who would have done that?
I mean we disagree on just about everything here, but I can't recall a single person saying Parnell should be in the pen.
It seems blatantly obvious that his arm is still not fully recovered. He was shelled in the minors and he was shelled in the majors. How much more evidence do you need?
While your not wrong, I really felt he would be the tenth/eleventh guy in the pen. Give him a chance to re-join the team and be around the guys. But this is ridiculous. Obviously Terry had other intentions. Time to cut him ASAP.
He's trying to get Parnell out there in a spot where he can succeed and get some confidence back. Problem is, we are in September now and now's not the time for those types of morale booster experiments. Just can't do it.
The problem with that logic is that this is the same guy that uses Familia every single night in blowouts because "we have to win games" and wouldn't play the younger players last year because "he has to win games". Trying to get Parnell's confidence going in a game of this magnitude in September is absurd. There's no excuse. The whole pen was rested and he literally had 6 fantastic options just staring at him waiting for a call.
Like I said.. not the time to do it. It's obvious Parnell is a mess and has absolutely no faith in himself so Collins thought if he put him out there against the bottom of the order in a winnable game, he'd have something to build on. I don't agree with it, that's just essentially what he more or less admitted he was doing.
RE: Storen was 29/31 in save opportunities with an ERA of 1.80 Â
is that its ok to be homer broadcaster. I thought being objective was normal being influenced by New York Mets broadcasting over the years. Until I started to hear other team broadcasters, just basically out and out homerism all the way through.
Ray Knight was an integral part of the '86 team but the team dumped him at the right time. Just lasted two more seasons.
is that its ok to be homer broadcaster. I thought being objective was normal being influenced by New York Mets broadcasting over the years. Until I started to hear other team broadcasters, just basically out and out homerism all the way through.
Ray Knight was an integral part of the '86 team but the team dumped him at the right time. Just lasted two more seasons.
That's so true about the broadcasters. Even a respectable franchise like the Cardinals has a homer crew. Do fans really just want to hear cheerleaders? I much prefer the objective analysis offered by the Mets' announces, which really adds something to the watching experience.
midwest fans are generally happy go lucky, so they love homer announcers that call the game as good guys vs. bad guys. Hawk Harrelson, Cubs, etc.
Is the Brewers guy considered a homer? He's very famous. Don't know if he is.
I have not heard them say anything negative about Terry Collins! And he has made some awful in game decisions. maybe SNY does not allow negative remarks regarding management!
Thank God that the Nats have Matt Williams, a worst manager than Terry Baby..
I really think it was more machismo than lack of effort. Everything about how Cespedes plays is all attitude, being slick and cool, sticking your chest out. He grew up playing baseball in Cuba not the US, so he formed his playing style down there and maybe he doesn't realize how some of his antics appear to US fans. Or maybe he doesn't care. That's just the way he plays.
Couldn't have said it better. And my fear is that people are starting to paint this picture that he's this selfish player that only cares about himself and his stats. The guy is a month from free agency, and busting his ass legging out a triple losing by 9 runs. That doesn't compute for me.
Wouldn't count on it. Alvarez has been unreal against lefties though in Vegas of all places. I think he'll be an effective LOOGY in a few days. If not I feel great with Gilmartin in tough situations.
Hopefully it does't come back to bite us.
Honest about his bullpen decisions, Collins admits he could have used Gilmartin or Goeddel in the 6th. But he wanted Parnell to be that guy.
Personally, I feel bad for Parnell and Torres, they did admirable job when the team stunk. Now they are probably the outside looking in when playoff time comes.
The problem with that logic is that this is the same guy that uses Familia every single night in blowouts because "we have to win games" and wouldn't play the younger players last year because "he has to win games". Trying to get Parnell's confidence going in a game of this magnitude in September is absurd. There's no excuse. The whole pen was rested and he literally had 6 fantastic options just staring at him waiting for a call.
I mean we disagree on just about everything here, but I can't recall a single person saying Parnell should be in the pen.
It seems blatantly obvious that his arm is still not fully recovered. He was shelled in the minors and he was shelled in the majors. How much more evidence do you need?
Over his last 3 appearances, Bobby Parnell has faced 12 batters and gotten 2 outs.
I mean we disagree on just about everything here, but I can't recall a single person saying Parnell should be in the pen.
It seems blatantly obvious that his arm is still not fully recovered. He was shelled in the minors and he was shelled in the majors. How much more evidence do you need?
While your not wrong, I really felt he would be the tenth/eleventh guy in the pen. Give him a chance to re-join the team and be around the guys. But this is ridiculous. Obviously Terry had other intentions. Time to cut him ASAP.
As for Addison Reed, Collins said he was saving him for the eighth because Familia was unavailable, so the ninth belonged to Clippard.
Terry Collins on his bullpen decisions in the sixth: “We had other options. We certainly could have brought Goeddel in tonight. (1/3)
Anthony DiComo
"[Goeddel] pitched last night so I wasn’t going to put him into that situation. I could have went to Gilmartin. (2/3)
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"We just had a lefty in there so I thought I’d get a righty in there against that part of the order. He just didn’t get it done.” (3/3)
Since then, he has an ERA over 10.00
Talk about a trade that blew up in their faces.
Terry Collins on his bullpen decisions in the sixth: “We had other options. We certainly could have brought Goeddel in tonight. (1/3)
Anthony DiComo
"[Goeddel] pitched last night so I wasn’t going to put him into that situation. I could have went to Gilmartin. (2/3)
Why doesn't somebody in the media say, "But you did use Goeddel later in the game during garbage time"?
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He's trying to get Parnell out there in a spot where he can succeed and get some confidence back. Problem is, we are in September now and now's not the time for those types of morale booster experiments. Just can't do it.
The problem with that logic is that this is the same guy that uses Familia every single night in blowouts because "we have to win games" and wouldn't play the younger players last year because "he has to win games". Trying to get Parnell's confidence going in a game of this magnitude in September is absurd. There's no excuse. The whole pen was rested and he literally had 6 fantastic options just staring at him waiting for a call.
Like I said.. not the time to do it. It's obvious Parnell is a mess and has absolutely no faith in himself so Collins thought if he put him out there against the bottom of the order in a winnable game, he'd have something to build on. I don't agree with it, that's just essentially what he more or less admitted he was doing.
Since then, he has an ERA over 10.00
Talk about a trade that blew up in their faces.
Storen threw 19 pitches tonight and only 8 for strikes.
Again, a tick a day keeps the gnats away.
cardinals beat nats. cards now 40 games over, nats 1 game over. teams have similar talent/injury stories in 2015.
Ray Knight was an integral part of the '86 team but the team dumped him at the right time. Just lasted two more seasons.
Ray Knight was an integral part of the '86 team but the team dumped him at the right time. Just lasted two more seasons.
That's so true about the broadcasters. Even a respectable franchise like the Cardinals has a homer crew. Do fans really just want to hear cheerleaders? I much prefer the objective analysis offered by the Mets' announces, which really adds something to the watching experience.
Is the Brewers guy considered a homer? He's very famous. Don't know if he is.
Thank God that the Nats have Matt Williams, a worst manager than Terry Baby..
Nimmo 1-3, 2 k's
Reynolds 1-5, 2b
Verrett 6.1 innings 11 hits 6 runs 0 walks 6 k's
AA
Rivera 3-5
Ynoa 5.1 innings 8 hits 5 runs 4 earned 2 walks 4 k's
Walters 1 inning 1 hit 2 k's
Smith/Rosario both out (injured)
Becerra 1-3
Garcia 2-2, 2b
Katz 1-3, 2b
Flexen 5.2 innings 3 hits 1 run 2 walks 8 k's (one to watch next year)
Montgomery 1.1 innings 4 k's (wildcard relief arm to watch for)
Oswalt 5 innings 6 hits 3 runs 0 walks 5 k's
Lindsay 1-4, 3 k's (32 k's in 93 ab's, something to monitor going forward)
Carpio 1-4
Kacz 2-3, 2 2b's
Ramos 2-4 (strong finish)
Uceta 6 innings 6 hits 2 runs 2 walks 6 k's (Kingsport debut)
Really curious to see which of the 5-6 interesting SS prospects ends up the best