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sshin05 : 9/1/2015 3:23 pm
Phillies

Sweeney CF
Hernandez 2B
Altherr LF
Francoeur RF
Ruf 1B
Blanco 3B
Ruiz C
Galvis SS
Harang P


Mets

Granderson, RF
Cespedes, CF
Murphy, 2B
Wright, 3B
Conforto, LF
Cuddyer, 1B
dArnaud, C
Tejada, SS
Niese, LHP
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Conforto  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 3:24 pm : link
in the 5th hole
From espn  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 3:26 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Everyone who works at ESPN believes the #Mets are making the playoffs.
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So happy to see Conforto step in and have like no rookie struggles  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 3:32 pm : link
It's been a shot in the arm.
Like this lineup better  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 3:35 pm : link
Red hot Cuddyer essentially replaces Johnson.
I really like Conforto  
Beezer : 9/1/2015 3:38 pm : link
(who Ron Darling compared to Don Mattingly), a budding professional hitter, protected by Cuddyer, a vet pro hitter.

One minor thing I'd prefer, but can't really get too fired up about ... I'd like to see Murphy in the 2 spot, Cespedes at 3.
And it doesn't matter what anyone at ESPN thinks.  
Beezer : 9/1/2015 3:40 pm : link

Take nothing for granted.

Very wary of people talking like this is a done deal. There is a shit-ton of baseball to play, and in just a half a week, Washington is potentially within one series of re-taking the lead.

I don't buy the sentiment that Washington is going to somehow fade away, or implode (or both). I think their fight will keep this interesting.

I'm hoping the bullpen gets bolstered, and our new depth is managed well down the stretch.

This is exciting. Every game is huge.
I won't be waving any flags  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/1/2015 3:43 pm : link
until that final series against Washington is meaningless.
As long as Duda remains out...  
Chris684 : 9/1/2015 3:48 pm : link
this would be my "everyday" lineup with just one replacement of Wilmer for Tejada.

I use the term everyday loosely b/c lineup flexibility is such a strength of the roster at the moment, but a big game to win, I want this configuration plus Wilmer.
Wright batting cleanup  
Rflairr : 9/1/2015 3:49 pm : link
Makes no sense
Mets at 93%  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 3:53 pm : link
FanGraphs.coms projections have the Nationals odds of winning the division at 13.1 percent.
Nats know they are  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 3:54 pm : link
in deep trouble
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arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 3:57 pm : link
I never understood why fans care what other fans or analysts say. I think the Nats are done. They aren't catching us and I could not be any less worried about them at this point. They just aren't that good and the Mets aren't going to slow down to .500/below .500 pace anyway.

If they sweep us I'll think twice. They won't.

But none of what I say will have any effect on the outcome. Nor does it matter what talking heads say. What are people "wary" of? The Mets buying into it and taking their foots off the gas? Meh..
I also  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 4:02 pm : link
believe the Nationals aren't catching up to the Mets. Even with their easy schedule after the Cardinals, the Mets have it just as easy to pad leads and stats. Also the Nationals recent history suggests, they won't be able to pitch to catch up.
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arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 4:02 pm : link
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According to Elias Sports, only two teams since 1969 have come back to win a division after being down 6 1/2 games or more entering September: the 1978 Yankees and 1995 Mariners.
Give me 1 reason these numbers flip in September?  
Headhunter : 9/1/2015 4:03 pm : link
They went 12-17 in August, their worst month of the season, while the Mets went 20-8,
In my opinion  
Chris684 : 9/1/2015 4:07 pm : link
a stress free end of the season can be achieved over the next 10 days.

Take 2/3 from the Phils or Marlins and sweep the other.

Then take 2/3 from Nats.

Game Over.

With one already in the bag that would leave us 19 games over .500 starting play on 9/10.

This isn't 07, the Nats are not as tough as that Philly team was and long losing streaks are not likely with our pitching staff.
Matz on Sunday  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 4:11 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Source confirms Steven Matz will sub for Noah Syndergaard in Miami, then Mets go to 6-man next turn.
er  
sshin05 : 9/1/2015 4:11 pm : link
matz on saturday actually
RE: Wright batting cleanup  
Ira : 9/1/2015 4:15 pm : link
In comment 12447311 Rflairr said:
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Makes no sense


It's not the way I'd do it either, but he's alternating left handed and right handed hitters.
RE: Matz on Sunday  
speedywheels : 9/1/2015 4:24 pm : link
In comment 12447374 sshin05 said:
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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Source confirms Steven Matz will sub for Noah Syndergaard in Miami, then Mets go to 6-man next turn.


So they will skip Thor only once? I thought it was going to be twice?
Wright should bat 2nd  
Tanker20 : 9/1/2015 4:28 pm : link
So as to make it not as easy for a manager to bring in a lefty reliever to face grandy, Cespedes, Murphy.

Wright kills lefties so it's more likely a manger either uses a lefty vs grandy and then takes him out right after or waits until after wright is up, thus giving Curtis an extra at bat vs a righty. Of course his last option would be to leave the lefty in to face wright.

RE: RE: Matz on Sunday  
gmen9892 : 9/1/2015 4:40 pm : link
In comment 12447438 speedywheels said:
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In comment 12447374 sshin05 said:


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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Source confirms Steven Matz will sub for Noah Syndergaard in Miami, then Mets go to 6-man next turn.



So they will skip Thor only once? I thought it was going to be twice?


If you skip Thor twice, that is a very long layoff, especially if you keep a 6 man rotation after that. Essentially he would probably only pitch once this month before heading into the playoffs. They said he was going to be starting as of just recently, so that would be a scary proposition for a rookie pitcher going into his first playoff.
Last season, Thor pitched 133 innings.  
Ira : 9/1/2015 4:40 pm : link
This season, he's pitched 152 innings. IF you assume he should only pitch approximately 30 more innings than the previous season, then he has two starts left. With 31 games in the season left, I think they'd want to have him skip another start. And that's not considering the possibility of post-season play.
RE: RE: RE: Matz on Sunday  
speedywheels : 9/1/2015 4:46 pm : link
In comment 12447475 gmen9892 said:
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In comment 12447438 speedywheels said:


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In comment 12447374 sshin05 said:


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Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Source confirms Steven Matz will sub for Noah Syndergaard in Miami, then Mets go to 6-man next turn.



So they will skip Thor only once? I thought it was going to be twice?



If you skip Thor twice, that is a very long layoff, especially if you keep a 6 man rotation after that. Essentially he would probably only pitch once this month before heading into the playoffs. They said he was going to be starting as of just recently, so that would be a scary proposition for a rookie pitcher going into his first playoff.


Not twice in a row - twice during the month (is what I read)...
Gotcha  
gmen9892 : 9/1/2015 4:49 pm : link
In a perfect world, they can skip Harvey, Thor, and maybe even deGrom once more between now and October 4th. I dont think its too crazy to get done, especially if they have the division all but locked up. Throw Verrett twice and with Matz back, it can be done.
So apparently they aren't going with 6 man rotation?  
speedywheels : 9/1/2015 5:23 pm : link
DMM posted this in another thread

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Presumably
DanMetroMan : 4:34 pm : link : reply
Thor's spot for a start

Mike Vorkunov ‏@Mike_Vorkunov 30m30 minutes ago
Matz will pitch "sometime soon," TC says. Mets won't go to a 6 man rotation


They aren't going to a 6 man "yet"  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 5:47 pm : link
They will before long.
I'll be in Miami Saturday  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 5:48 pm : link
Going to be pumped if I get to see Matz.
I'm so fucking pumped for this run  
GMenLTS : 9/1/2015 6:14 pm : link
let's fucking go mets!
I think it will be a modified six man rotation  
Vanzetti : 9/1/2015 6:25 pm : link
So if they have an off day, one of the starters will get "skipped" as a way of keeping innings down for The guys who need it.
Jeez, that lineup  
Don in DC : 9/1/2015 6:25 pm : link
I saw the Mets at the Nats a couple months ago and my friend commented there was hardly anyone in the lineup hitting over .225. Now it's a regular murderers row.

Amazing how this team turned around offensively. Still, I would feel better if they didn't seem to struggle and flounder against better competition (getting swept by the Pirates and losing 2 of 3 to the Sox).
Two Rubin tweetw  
Ira : 9/1/2015 6:29 pm : link
Adam Rubin ✔@AdamRubinESPN
Source confirms Steven Matz will sub for Noah Syndergaard in Miami, then Mets go to 6-man next turn.
4:10 PM - 1 Sep 2015

Adam Rubin ✔@AdamRubinESPN
So Jon Niese, Matt Harvey and Jacob deGrom remained lined up for D.C.
Michael Conforto: 82 AB's, .928 OPS  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 6:39 pm : link
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Conforto  
Vanzetti : 9/1/2015 6:52 pm : link
He was finishing up the season in Brooklyn this time last year. That means he moved up five levels in a single season.
RE: Michael Conforto: 82 AB's, .928 OPS  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/1/2015 6:57 pm : link
In comment 12447667 arcarsenal said:
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Last 2 weeks: 30 AB, 1.233 OPS
Hernandez is smoking crack  
KWhite2250 : 9/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
That was clearly an error on murphy. Catch the fucking ball
Thankfully it's a moot point  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
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Worst fucking interview ever  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
I don't know what's worst... Niece's rough inning or this fucking interview!
Way to shit the bed, Jon...  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
Brutal.
Holy fucking shit  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
Niese. God damn it.
Niese shell shocked  
Mike in NY : 9/1/2015 7:50 pm : link
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Unreal  
Rflairr : 9/1/2015 7:50 pm : link
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Well ...  
Stufftherun : 9/1/2015 7:50 pm : link
there's Niese's BP inning.
Starting to feel better about Bartolo than Niese lately.  
arcarsenal : 9/1/2015 7:51 pm : link
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Lol, it was only a matter of time with Niese  
PhiPsi125 : 9/1/2015 7:51 pm : link
He turned back into a pumpkin.
Its the fucking beard  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 7:52 pm : link
He shaved it last time and was lights out for three months. Now he wants to go Amish again and he's being punished for looking like a clown.
Offense better not shit the bed tonight  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 7:54 pm : link
chip away and get back in this thing. Its the fucking Phillies.
I swear it feels like Cespedes  
ZGiants98 : 9/1/2015 7:58 pm : link
hasn't gotten a hit since the 4th of July. The guy is ICE COLD.
The Mighty Harang!!  
PhiPsi125 : 9/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
Seriously, I feel like the mets fare better against the good pitchers than the bad pitchers like Harang. I'm sure the stats don't back me up but that's how I feel, lol.
Cespedes hasn't done shit  
Rflairr : 9/1/2015 8:00 pm : link
In over a week
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