Both of these guys need to get lost. Alvarez needs to take EOF's spot and Goeddel needs to take Parnell's. Neither of these guys should ever be allowed to pitch again.
is that I think Dan is right that he could be in the running for manager of the year if The Mets make it.
But if they collapse and lose the division, he could very well be fired. Especially with moves like tonight. Though I blame the FO/ownership because I think if Parnell were not making 4 million, he would not be on the roster right now.
Its like he's going from the very bottom up the ladder in a 2 run game where we just had all the momentum. I don't fucking get it. Gilmartin needed work. Reed needed work. WTF is going on?
RE: This better have been the last straw for Parnell. Â
Talk about making all the wrong moves. Why these guys are even options is beyond me.
I mean, they know it's not an injury with Parnell. They were going to release him of the didn't go on the "DL". They know he sucks. And he's the first fucking option he goes to? JFC
terry deserves a pat on the back for this season though. Real underrated skipper. Has his pulse on the team.
With this pitching staff, I think most managers would have the team in first. I actually don't think the manager has that much effect on the overall member of wins. No more than 5 over the course of the season.
when Parnell was recalled it was an honorary thing. Sort of a badge of honor. He might get used once in a blue moon in a blowout or something. I can't believe this.
Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
Oh well, let the Phillies get it out of their system Â
Hey the Phils have played the part for you guys this year. We were due for a win. Dont worry, I think the Phils despise the Nats more than anyone. We will sweep them for ya!
talk about manufacturing a rally for the opposition
bring in Gilmartin and this is probably a 1-2-3 inning
So Torres can't be used either? Bullpen keeps getting smaller.
Torres is the 7th option in the pen. He's the long man and also likely doesn't make the playoff bullpen. Torres should never be in close situations either.
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Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Dude, what are talking about? The Mets just rallied from down six runs to 6-4! The game was not "probably a loss." The thing that made it a loss was bringing in Parnell.
Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Not to be a jerk but thats just stupid. It was a 2 run game and he had Reed, Robles, Goedell, and Gilmartin available and he put in the 3 worst possible guys in order. Thats about as awful of a job to be done.
Fuck that. It was a two run game. We were just coming back. We can't throw away games. Im well aware the overall picture is fine but this game was bullshit.
Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
6-7 ?? Please elaborate cause I know of 3 maybe 4 , reed isn't proven yet
You need to relax , this had to be done at some point.
You Think it's a coincidence in choosing the 3 biggest question marks in the pen
Is a fucking damn good pen and they are all sitting on the bench as bystanders. This game is gross. Indefensible. Its only one loss but this is easily the most irritating one in a long time.
put Parnell in another situation. If we were still down 6-0, sure, let him pitch. But once it got to 6-4, you can't put in a reliever with a 10+ ERA, and expect him to hold the other team in check. He has not proven he is capable of doing that this year, in the major leagues or in the minor leagues. O'Flaherty the same. Torres just flat out cannot locate his pitches, he's really hit or miss.
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Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
6-7 ?? Please elaborate cause I know of 3 maybe 4 , reed isn't proven yet
You need to relax , this had to be done at some point.
You Think it's a coincidence in choosing the 3 biggest question marks in the pen
Reed isn't proven yet? The guy averaged 30 saves a year for three straight years as a CLOSER. He's been phenomenal in a setup role. You don't think he's a better option than Parnell? Are you fucking high?
Collins obviously made a terrible series of moves Â
But the larger question is why is Parnell even on the roster. He obviously doesn't have it. Most people were surprised when Parnell was resigned at close to 4 million. It seems to me that is why he is getting extra chances. $$$$$
Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Not to be a jerk but thats just stupid. It was a 2 run game and he had Reed, Robles, Goedell, and Gilmartin available and he put in the 3 worst possible guys in order. Thats about as awful of a job to be done.
I think after Parnell blew it up TC chose to go to Torres and EOF , which is what I base My statement on
How else do you test these guys under pressure , sucks but you could win from this too
Looks like I picked a good time to take my dog outside. Â
Murph's the last guy I want to see on the wrong end of a throw off line to first.
But if they collapse and lose the division, he could very well be fired. Especially with moves like tonight. Though I blame the FO/ownership because I think if Parnell were not making 4 million, he would not be on the roster right now.
Shame he couldn't throw a strike. Had good velocity and some movement.
Brought him in for a lefty I thought, Philly made a switch.
I mean, they know it's not an injury with Parnell. They were going to release him of the didn't go on the "DL". They know he sucks. And he's the first fucking option he goes to? JFC
With this pitching staff, I think most managers would have the team in first. I actually don't think the manager has that much effect on the overall member of wins. No more than 5 over the course of the season.
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to face a righty to boot. Geezus.
Brought him in for a lefty I thought, Philly made a switch.
I missed that, your right. I still would have yanked him. EOF can't pitch to a righty EVER.
bring in Gilmartin and this is probably a 1-2-3 inning
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
bring in Gilmartin and this is probably a 1-2-3 inning
So Torres can't be used either? Bullpen keeps getting smaller.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
No point in that nonsense. Jump aboard the crazy overreaction train.
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to face a righty to boot. Geezus.
Brought him in for a lefty I thought, Philly made a switch.
I missed that, your right. I still would have yanked him. EOF can't pitch to a righty EVER.
Not allowed to. Has to face one batter unless he injures himself
I think the problem most have here is not a loss in itself but the manner in which is being "earned".
Hey the Phils have played the part for you guys this year. We were due for a win. Dont worry, I think the Phils despise the Nats more than anyone. We will sweep them for ya!
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talk about manufacturing a rally for the opposition
bring in Gilmartin and this is probably a 1-2-3 inning
So Torres can't be used either? Bullpen keeps getting smaller.
Torres is the 7th option in the pen. He's the long man and also likely doesn't make the playoff bullpen. Torres should never be in close situations either.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Dude, what are talking about? The Mets just rallied from down six runs to 6-4! The game was not "probably a loss." The thing that made it a loss was bringing in Parnell.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Not to be a jerk but thats just stupid. It was a 2 run game and he had Reed, Robles, Goedell, and Gilmartin available and he put in the 3 worst possible guys in order. Thats about as awful of a job to be done.
Fuck that. It was a two run game. We were just coming back. We can't throw away games. Im well aware the overall picture is fine but this game was bullshit.
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Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
6-7 ?? Please elaborate cause I know of 3 maybe 4 , reed isn't proven yet
You need to relax , this had to be done at some point.
You Think it's a coincidence in choosing the 3 biggest question marks in the pen
Clippard
Reed
Gilmartin
Goedell
Robles
Is a fucking damn good pen and they are all sitting on the bench as bystanders. This game is gross. Indefensible. Its only one loss but this is easily the most irritating one in a long time.
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Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
What? It was a two run game? Plus the playoff bullpen is set He doesn't need to assess anything. We have 6 or 7 very good relievers. This is a fucking joke. He went from the worst possible option up the ladder.
6-7 ?? Please elaborate cause I know of 3 maybe 4 , reed isn't proven yet
You need to relax , this had to be done at some point.
You Think it's a coincidence in choosing the 3 biggest question marks in the pen
Reed isn't proven yet? The guy averaged 30 saves a year for three straight years as a CLOSER. He's been phenomenal in a setup role. You don't think he's a better option than Parnell? Are you fucking high?
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Terry realizes this game is prob a loss and is assessing 3 players in question so he has an idea what he needs going forward.
Yes he is risking losing the game but he is also gaining who he can trust in a big spot.
EOF is prob cut tomorrow and Parnell might not make it past one more bad appearance
Not to be a jerk but thats just stupid. It was a 2 run game and he had Reed, Robles, Goedell, and Gilmartin available and he put in the 3 worst possible guys in order. Thats about as awful of a job to be done.
I think after Parnell blew it up TC chose to go to Torres and EOF , which is what I base My statement on
How else do you test these guys under pressure , sucks but you could win from this too