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NFT: Yankees (72-58) @ Red Sox (61-70) , Tuesday Ed.

RasputinPrime : 9/1/2015 6:38 pm

NYY | (72-58)

1. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF: (.275/.336/.379), 1.8 bWAR
2. Brett Gardner (L) LF: (.273/.358/.417), 3.6 bWAR
3. Carlos Beltran (S) RF: (.283/.345/.482), 0.9 bWAR
4. Brian McCann (L) CA: (.245/.324/.472), 2.8 bWAR
5. Alex Rodriguez (R) DH: (.256/.364/.487), 2.8 bWAR
6. Chase Headley (S) 3B: (.278/.341/.404), 1.5 bWAR
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B: (.250/.328/.393), -0.1 bWAR
8. Didi Gregorius (L) SS: (.269/.318/.364), 2.5 bWAR
9. Stephen Drew (L) 2B: (.203/.276/.387), 0.8 bWAR
Total Lineup bWAR: 16.6


Michael Pineda (R) (122.1 IP, 4.19 ERA, 3.09 FIP, 1.2 bWAR)
vs.
Rick Porcello (R) (121.2 IP, 5.47 ERA, 4.53 FIP, -0.2 bWAR)

1. Mookie Betts (R) CF: (.274/.320/.454), 4.3 bWAR
2. Pablo Sandoval (L) 3B: (.249/.298/.380), -0.4 bWAR
3. Xander Bogaerts (R) SS: (.315/.345/.405), 3.6 bWAR
4. David Ortiz (L) DH: (.267/.356/.525), 2.2 bWAR
5. Travis Shaw (L) 1B: (.294/.348/.559), 1.4 bWAR
6. Rusney Castillo (R) RF: (.288/.320/.424), 0.7 bWAR
7. Brock Holt (L) 2B: (.280/.350/.384), 2.8 bWAR
8. Blake Swihart (S) CA: (.280/.326/.381), 0.2 bWAR
9. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) LF: (.277/.358/.555), 1.4 bWAR
Total Lineup bWAR: 16.2

BOS | (61-70)
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Pineda with a beautiful K of Betts  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/1/2015 8:37 pm : link
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Be awesome to have Pineda back  
Jay in Toronto : 9/1/2015 8:57 pm : link
Great job on Ortiz
Bird gets screwed by a pretty high strike.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/1/2015 9:03 pm : link
David Cone is REALLY good doing these games now.
That K on Bird is Bird's fault.  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:05 pm : link
The dumb ass stood up before the ball crossed the plate. He does that a lot. Have to stay in your stance so the ump can see the top of the zone
RE: That K on Bird is Bird's fault.  
Dunedin81 : 9/1/2015 9:12 pm : link
In comment 12447938 section125 said:
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The dumb ass stood up before the ball crossed the plate. He does that a lot. Have to stay in your stance so the ump can see the top of the zone


It was borderline, but the issue is that the kid is six weeks out of AA. At AA and below pitches with that sort of late life, and pitchers who can locate them, are few and far between. It is something that will come with time. He is a future middle of the order bat, we need to be patient with him and not run him out of town on a rail because he is a little too passive at the plate in the early going.
Betances doesn't give a shit about Bradley or hot streaks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
or anything else.
I know people need to adjust to the zone, but that pitch to Drew  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
is simply not a strike. It's never a strike.
RE: RE: That K on Bird is Bird's fault.  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12447965 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 12447938 section125 said:


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The dumb ass stood up before the ball crossed the plate. He does that a lot. Have to stay in your stance so the ump can see the top of the zone



It was borderline, but the issue is that the kid is six weeks out of AA. At AA and below pitches with that sort of late life, and pitchers who can locate them, are few and far between. It is something that will come with time. He is a future middle of the order bat, we need to be patient with him and not run him out of town on a rail because he is a little too passive at the plate in the early going.


I was responding to the "high strike" post. It was at the top of the zone and may have been a ball if he stayed in his stance.
Tonight''s installment of make a shitty righty look like  
Stu11 : 9/1/2015 9:21 pm : link
Pedro Martinez starring Rick Porcello. Spent this guy has been too shitty to pitch BP this year and he has 13 k's
Gardner with insurance  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/1/2015 9:22 pm : link
...
Gardy goes yardy! Hooked it around the Pesky Pole  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 9:23 pm : link
3-1 Yanks
Speaking of dumb asses,  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:25 pm : link
how many of those inside strikes (which are strikes) are they going to look at tonight. Porcello is pitching exceedingly well, but for pete's sake the ump is calling that pitch consistently, so swing at it. He's been very consistent with that call.
This doesn't look good  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 9:29 pm : link
Betances in a jam
Betances fastball is doing  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:31 pm : link
nothing. The slider and curve are good.
That is a very close call  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 9:32 pm : link
Boston challenges
phew  
terz22 : 9/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
.
Betts claims Headley pushed him off  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
the bag.
He's out. Pesky says the foot was off and he's out.
Betts stays out  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
Betances schools Ortiz and that'll do it
Golden Sombrero  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:35 pm : link
for Big Sloppy! 4 Ks.
Good call  
BlueHurricane : 9/1/2015 9:35 pm : link
Replay is not in place to change calls like that.
If you see  
Homersimpson : 9/1/2015 9:36 pm : link
where Betts wound up sitting, there's almost no way his right foot (tucked under his left leg) could be on the bag...easy peasy.
RE: If you see  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12448033 Homersimpson said:
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where Betts wound up sitting, there's almost no way his right foot (tucked under his left leg) could be on the bag...easy peasy.


Agreed. And that ump was looking straight down on it. He had a better view than replay.
Ballgame over Yankees win  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 9:54 pm : link
Toronto and Cleveland going to extras tied at 3; their closer blew a save and ours didn't
Good win  
Kyle in NY : 9/1/2015 9:56 pm : link
would be great to have Big Mike back at this level
Good scrappy win against  
section125 : 9/1/2015 9:57 pm : link
a pitcher pitching out of his skull.

Nice to see Gardner get one.
Let's be honest here  
B in ALB : 9/1/2015 9:58 pm : link
That ump totally blew the third strike there. No reason not to ask for help down the line. Whatever. Guess it evens out from last night? Are the umps tired? Do they need to get back to the hotel and order their buckets of beer and room service? Is that it?
RE: Let's be honest here  
section125 : 9/1/2015 10:01 pm : link
In comment 12448083 B in ALB said:
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That ump totally blew the third strike there. No reason not to ask for help down the line. Whatever. Guess it evens out from last night? Are the umps tired? Do they need to get back to the hotel and order their buckets of beer and room service? Is that it?


B not sure that it wasn't a strike in the zone. I think the pitch was over the plate. I didn't see the k-zone on the replay, but I thought it caught the corner.
Indians  
GruningsOnTheHill : 9/1/2015 10:01 pm : link
2 on, 1 out Top 10th
Yeah maybe you're right Section  
B in ALB : 9/1/2015 10:03 pm : link
Just seems like a lot of lazy umpiring lately ya know?
RE: Yeah maybe you're right Section  
section125 : 9/1/2015 10:06 pm : link
In comment 12448089 B in ALB said:
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Just seems like a lot of lazy umpiring lately ya know?


Last night I think you were right. I might be wrong on this, but I thought the pitch was a strike - it was high enough and it is hard to judge where it crosses the plate on Miller's cross throws.

I thought that he called a good game behind the plate tonight.
Swihart bitching was unnecessary...  
Dunedin81 : 9/1/2015 10:13 pm : link
he clearly offered and typically a catcher appeals a non-strike, not the other way around.
Test that Blue Jays team for steroids  
dpinzow : 9/1/2015 10:15 pm : link
light-hitting Ryan Goins just hit a walkoff HR
Great win!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/1/2015 10:18 pm : link
.
Porcello only the 3rd pitcher in the last 100  
RasputinPrime : 9/1/2015 10:24 pm : link
years, to record 13+ strikeouts against us in a game (Pedro/Clemens).

Now subtract all the called strikeouts that were off the plate and he'd have the 5 he earned.

Good w
RE: Porcello only the 3rd pitcher in the last 100  
section125 : 9/1/2015 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12448113 RasputinPrime said:
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years, to record 13+ strikeouts against us in a game (Pedro/Clemens).

Now subtract all the called strikeouts that were off the plate and he'd have the 5 he earned.

Good w


The vast majority, no I'd say all, were strikes. The feed I had (NESN) clearly showed the balls were in the strike zone. Plus the ump was ridiculously consistent with his calls.
RE: RE: Porcello only the 3rd pitcher in the last 100  
RasputinPrime : 9/1/2015 10:47 pm : link
In comment 12448120 section125 said:
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In comment 12448113 RasputinPrime said:


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years, to record 13+ strikeouts against us in a game (Pedro/Clemens).

Now subtract all the called strikeouts that were off the plate and he'd have the 5 he earned.

Good w



The vast majority, no I'd say all, were strikes. The feed I had (NESN) clearly showed the balls were in the strike zone. Plus the ump was ridiculously consistent with his calls.


If the strike zone is subjective then subjectively I stand by my assessment. The umps have had two rough games in Boston and there have been more than enough reasons to gripe by both teams.
I had no problem with his strike zone...  
Dunedin81 : 9/1/2015 10:48 pm : link
it looked like Porcello got a couple questionable calls in the early going and became extremely confidence painting both corners, and he did it very well. There were one or two in there that I didn't think were strikes but by and large Pineda was getting the calls too.
great win  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/1/2015 11:02 pm : link
back to 15 over .500, let's make a push for 20 and catch the Jays. Pineda is a really important part of this team, good to see him play well. Betances and Miller is just too good, insane how valuable Betances has been in the non-traditional best reliever role.

Not Yanks-related but holy crap, Miguel Sano looks like a monster. He has a really high K-rate and BABIP and I expect him to be closer to a .260 hitter than the .295 hitter he's been so far, but holy crap his power is absolutely insane. He combines it with a good enough eye to keep pitcher's honest. His stats are due to regress from this insane start but he's a guy who I could see hit 30-45 homers as soon as next season and stay at that power level for a long time.
RE: RE: RE: Porcello only the 3rd pitcher in the last 100  
section125 : 9/1/2015 11:10 pm : link
In comment 12448132 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 12448120 section125 said:


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In comment 12448113 RasputinPrime said:


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years, to record 13+ strikeouts against us in a game (Pedro/Clemens).

Now subtract all the called strikeouts that were off the plate and he'd have the 5 he earned.

Good w



The vast majority, no I'd say all, were strikes. The feed I had (NESN) clearly showed the balls were in the strike zone. Plus the ump was ridiculously consistent with his calls.



If the strike zone is subjective then subjectively I stand by my assessment. The umps have had two rough games in Boston and there have been more than enough reasons to gripe by both teams.


Cannot compare last night and tonight. Last night was a horribly called game. Today was a very well called game. All the players ask for (and knowledgeable fans) is a consistent strike zone. Tonight was one of the best called games I have seen. If the K-Zone was fairly accurate then tonight's ump was correct in his calls and even if the ball was marginally off the plate, he called it the same 98% of the time. Those inside pitches to the lefties were well over the plate.
RE: I had no problem with his strike zone...  
section125 : 9/1/2015 11:12 pm : link
In comment 12448133 Dunedin81 said:
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it looked like Porcello got a couple questionable calls in the early going and became extremely confidence painting both corners, and he did it very well. There were one or two in there that I didn't think were strikes but by and large Pineda was getting the calls too.


Consistent zone is all you can ask for. IMO, that was one of the best called games I've seen in a while. If he missed a couple, he missed a couple but as you said Pineda got the same calls.
The Bird situation going forward  
dpinzow : 9/2/2015 2:07 am : link
Opposing pitchers have made the adjustments (hard stuff inside and anything over 95 mph away for those pitchers who can throw it). Now Bird has to counter.

A couple of weeks ago I was worried that the Yanks couldn't find a position for Bird going forward. Now I think that the problem solves itself. It doesn't look like ARod can physically handle more than 400 plate appearances even as a DH, so Bird will get a decent amount of time DH'ing. You also know that Tex can't play the full 162 due to his age and injury history so Bird will get some looks at 1st (and would play 1st every day when Tex is on the DL)
not great but not as bad as I thought  
RasputinPrime : 9/2/2015 3:55 am : link
Tongue in cheek article on Trey Amburgey...  
Dunedin81 : 9/2/2015 9:33 am : link
easily the standout among 2015 draft picks on the young season.
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RE: The Bird situation going forward  
rich in DC : 9/2/2015 9:35 am : link
In comment 12448248 dpinzow said:
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Opposing pitchers have made the adjustments (hard stuff inside and anything over 95 mph away for those pitchers who can throw it). Now Bird has to counter.

A couple of weeks ago I was worried that the Yanks couldn't find a position for Bird going forward. Now I think that the problem solves itself. It doesn't look like ARod can physically handle more than 400 plate appearances even as a DH, so Bird will get a decent amount of time DH'ing. You also know that Tex can't play the full 162 due to his age and injury history so Bird will get some looks at 1st (and would play 1st every day when Tex is on the DL)


I think that Bird simply needs to go to AAA to start 2016 and get exposure to the high FB and off-speed away stuff that has stymied him in a lower pressure environment. In addition, he needs to work on better early pitch recognition, which is simply a matter of seeing more almost ML ready SP and the AAAA SP that are down there.

Another 300-400 ABs in the minors won't hurt Bird- he's quite young- and we now know that Tex and ARod will break down when facing 500-600 ABs.

I think that the Yanks 2016 preference as of today would be to let Judge and Bird see 400 ABs each in AAA in 2016, and give Ackley every opportunity to take days away from ARod in a semi-platoon, as well as give Beltran regular days off- essentially taking Young's roster spot. The young guys really need to have significant exposure to the better breaking pitches and the much better command that the AAAA and soon-to-be ML pitchers in AAA have to be ready for NY.

We have already seen that the newspaper guys do NOT agree with Cashman's plan to replace vets with the rookies, and will be waiting to pounce and to try and convince the masses that the Yanks sound simply spend on FA or high priced vets instead. That will make for a VERY rough environment if the kids struggle with hitting better off-speed and command. Thus, the 2016 AAA 400 of so ABs really are a must for them.

I also think that if the Yanks give Ryan's roster spot to Pirela, that would free up the roster space to go get a backup 1B type too. Didi is at an age where he does not need a lot of days off physically, and the Yanks can stash someone in AAA who can be called up to be the SS in an emergency, or if Pirela can't hold on to the backup job.
Cashman has already said  
arniefez : 9/2/2015 10:46 am : link
Bird will start next year at AAA. That he needs to play everyday and not sit on the bench in MLB. They'll sign another Vet to back up Arod and Teix in 2016. Bird & Judge both need another season at AAA.
What an outing from Pineda!  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/2/2015 10:46 am : link
Nice to finally have him back. He could be huge for us the rest of the way, if he stays healthy.
RE: What an outing from Pineda!  
Dunedin81 : 9/2/2015 10:49 am : link
In comment 12448599 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Nice to finally have him back. He could be huge for us the rest of the way, if he stays healthy.


Velo was up, location was great. That was a front-line starter performance last night. If we make it to a 5-game playoff series Girardi will have a number of decisions to make.
as things now stand, we'd have a one-game playoff  
Del Shofner : 9/2/2015 11:00 am : link
in order to continue in the playoffs, correct?

I don't know about this system. I'd hate to win the wildcard race by, say, 5 games and then face a one game elimination.
RE: as things now stand, we'd have a one-game playoff  
Dunedin81 : 9/2/2015 11:18 am : link
In comment 12448630 Del Shofner said:
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in order to continue in the playoffs, correct?

I don't know about this system. I'd hate to win the wildcard race by, say, 5 games and then face a one game elimination.


Yeah, it'd be at home but it's still a dicey proposition.
Nice article on Rico Noel...  
Dunedin81 : 9/2/2015 12:41 pm : link
the designated pinch runner for the stretch run. His real first name is Jablonski and his brother is waiting for a heart transplant.
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