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NFT: John Tavares Retires

BrettNYG10 : 9/2/2015 9:42 am
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John Tavares, arguably the greatest lacrosse athlete of all-time, will retire from the sport on Wednesday.

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I MO the greatest lacrosse player of all-time is  
Steve Filipowicz : 9/2/2015 9:46 am : link
Jimmy Brown. With his size and speed, he would run through the entire opposing team and score.

He played lacrosse just to stay in cardiac condition to play football.
RE: I MO the greatest lacrosse player of all-time is  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/2/2015 9:52 am : link
In comment 12448481 Steve Filipowicz said:
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Jimmy Brown. With his size and speed, he would run through the entire opposing team and score.

The game was different then. You could clamp the ball to your chest and not cradle. The level of athletes he competed against was completely different. As dominant as he was, it is a little hard to compare Jimmy Brown to players in the modern game.
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Deej : 9/2/2015 9:59 am : link


#SiF
Well done, man.  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/2/2015 10:10 am : link
hahahah
Boooooooooooooooooo  
Metnut : 9/2/2015 10:12 am : link
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arcarsenal : 9/2/2015 10:18 am : link
What Deej said.  
Wuphat : 9/2/2015 10:19 am : link
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Peter: I'm not trying to be argumentative, but two questions about  
Steve Filipowicz : 9/2/2015 10:24 am : link
Tavares- how big was he and how fast?

Brown was 6'3" and 230 lbs and in terms of quickness, Brown always said that one of the things he was proudest of was that in high school, college and the pros, he was NEVER caught from behind.
I thought the Gait brothers...  
Drewcon40 : 9/2/2015 10:27 am : link
...specifically Gary was the greatest? But I am 41 and the last lacrosse game I saw was in 1990 at the Coliseum.
Maybe the best box player of all time  
njm : 9/2/2015 10:30 am : link
He has an awful lot of competition with respect to field. Jim Brown, Eamon McEneaney, Mike French, Frank Urso, Gary Gait, Mikey Powell, Brodie Merrill, Rob Pannell, Paul Rabil, Lyle Thompson could all make that claim. I'm sure other names could be added.
RE: Peter: I'm not trying to be argumentative, but two questions about  
njm : 9/2/2015 10:39 am : link
In comment 12448559 Steve Filipowicz said:
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Tavares- how big was he and how fast?

Brown was 6'3" and 230 lbs and in terms of quickness, Brown always said that one of the things he was proudest of was that in high school, college and the pros, he was NEVER caught from behind.


Hard to compare players from the wooden stick era to the plastic stick. I never saw Brown play, but the stick skills of current players is way ahead of anyone using a wood stick. And over the last decade or two speed has increased as well. Kyle Harrison from Hopkins, player of the year back around 2004, was good for a legit 4.5 40. And he wasn't alone. But with respect to quickness rather than speed, nobody has in the 45+ years I've watched the game matched Eamon McEaneaney. He actually played football his senior year to stay in shape for lacrosse. Ended up in the Jets camp as a UDFA WR at 5'9" and about 155 lbs.
Poor Fishsticks  
Anakim : 9/2/2015 10:42 am : link
Even lacrosse talk takes precedence over Islanders talk
RE: Maybe the best box player of all time  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/2/2015 11:11 am : link
In comment 12448569 njm said:
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He has an awful lot of competition with respect to field. Jim Brown, Eamon McEneaney, Mike French, Frank Urso, Gary Gait, Mikey Powell, Brodie Merrill, Rob Pannell, Paul Rabil, Lyle Thompson could all make that claim. I'm sure other names could be added.


Great list. Steele Stanwick was the greatest "point guard" I ever saw, but I only started watching in the early 2000s
yikes  
feelflows : 9/2/2015 11:18 am : link
made my heart skip a beat.. best sports figure in NY, it would be a huge loss.

did you know the Islanders John Tavares was an allstar Lacrosse player as well?
Best sport figure in NY?  
Carl in CT : 9/2/2015 11:50 am : link
I think not!
RE: RE: Maybe the best box player of all time  
njm : 9/2/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12448655 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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In comment 12448569 njm said:


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He has an awful lot of competition with respect to field. Jim Brown, Eamon McEneaney, Mike French, Frank Urso, Gary Gait, Mikey Powell, Brodie Merrill, Rob Pannell, Paul Rabil, Lyle Thompson could all make that claim. I'm sure other names could be added.



Great list. Steele Stanwick was the greatest "point guard" I ever saw, but I only started watching in the early 2000s


You missed Eamon McEneaney, best feeding attackman (who could also score goals) I saw in over 45 years. Also the quickest change of direction with the ball when feeding from behind the goal.
RE: yikes  
njm : 9/2/2015 12:27 pm : link
In comment 12448670 feelflows said:
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made my heart skip a beat.. best sports figure in NY, it would be a huge loss.

did you know the Islanders John Tavares was an allstar Lacrosse player as well?


Lot of hockey players also played box lacrosse. Gretzky was reportedly an excellent box lacrosse player.
Brett - great lacrosse debate  
Pete in CO : 9/2/2015 1:28 pm : link
Arguably, yes. Tavares was a true legend in Canada and certainly in the indoor game. "Lacrosse athlete," meaning indoor & outdoor combined? I disagree.

IMO, Gary Gait and John Grant Jr are better "lacrosse athletes" than Tavares, since their careers showed dominance in both arenas (indoor & outdoor.) That doesn't take anything away from Tavares - my debate is more on the distinction of "lacrosse athlete."

Plenty of guys are terrific in the outdoor game who cannot withstand the beating in the indoor game. Others are better in box lacrosse and have a style of game that doesn't translate to the field. There are more of the former than the latter... Brian Langtry (Hofstra, Bridgeport Barrage, Denver Outlaws, Colorado Mammoth) was the best American born indoor/outdoor lacrosse player - IMO.
RIP Eamon McEneaney  
Pete in CO : 9/2/2015 1:30 pm : link
...good call, njm. agree.
FU  
mikeygiants : 9/2/2015 2:07 pm : link
now I have to go see my cardiologist. Asshat.
RE: Best sport figure in NY?  
feelflows : 9/2/2015 2:12 pm : link
In comment 12448752 Carl in CT said:
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I think not!


Hmmmmm most talented athlete. ..better?
Not  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 9/2/2015 5:25 pm : link
funny. At all.
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