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Stevie Brown... Art Stapleton

B in ALB : 9/2/2015 8:58 pm
So I'm watching this Giants Training Camp Live on msg and Stapleton from the Bergen Record is claiming that Brown didn't meet with Spagnuolo before the Giants signed him. He said straight up, there was no meeting and Brown is immediately the #2 behind Collins. Plus, Brown demanded his release from Houston. Uh. What the fuck?
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More pointless bitching about nothing  
Stupendamatic : 9/3/2015 6:04 am : link
Classic.
Spagnuolo did see him  
RetroJint : 9/3/2015 6:49 am : link
Extensively on film when he reviewed the Giants '14 defense. He already has made mention that Miles was thought to be nothing more than a special- teams player when he was on the Ravens. It is not hard to figure.
He was never great shakes to begin with, but unlike many  
Big Blue '56 : 9/3/2015 7:31 am : link
here I am not going to dismiss his 2012 out of hand..Perhaps he is what he is, but if what he is, is a guy who makes plays on the ball, we certainly can use that...I was hoping he wouldn't be re-signed, but at this point the choices were slim and none..

Too, it does take some people more time than Adrian Peterson to recover from an ACL..Recover in speed and cutting..Probably not in his case, but still, for whatever reason, skill and/or divine intervention, he has a nose for the ball..
is it over yet?  
BCD : 9/3/2015 8:00 am : link
STOP being pricks and watch brown play his way back into your hearts...
B, I'm not a fan of SB either.  
section125 : 9/3/2015 8:08 am : link
But there is a game tonight. We cannot afford another injury to Collins, Cooper or any DB right now. Brown is in game shape, can probably play most of the game and if he gets injured, it was $40k to save a potential starter. Plus it allows TC, Spags, Merritt to see if he improved from last year. Remember the Giants offered him a contract in the spring. Or if one of the other DBs gets hurt, there is an NFL vet safety there already...

Yeah, he won't know all the calls on D, but as an NFL vet, he's likely to pick the defense up quickly.

If he doesn't work out, they had a body for the game.
He may not have talked to Spagnuolo,  
Enoch : 9/3/2015 8:08 am : link
but I can't imagine that he just lost David Merritt's phone number when he moved to Houston.
RE: He may not have talked to Spagnuolo,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/3/2015 8:24 am : link
In comment 12450273 Enoch said:
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but I can't imagine that he just lost David Merritt's phone number when he moved to Houston.


This. I can't imagine why the DC would have to be consulted for a minor pickup, but if Spagnuolo needed to know something, he can talk to the guy who coached Brown when he was here.
it's spelled D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-I-O-N.  
Victor in CT : 9/3/2015 8:28 am : link
no more, no less
RE: I'm still wondering about several teams being interested in him  
Montreal Man : 9/3/2015 8:49 am : link
In comment 12450002 micky said:
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never saw whom they "all" were


Whom! Excellent grammar.
section125  
fkap : 9/3/2015 8:51 am : link
nitpicking, but...if SB gets injured tonight, he'll get an injury settlement, which is likely to be more than 40K. I assume the 40K is his signing bonus (haven't bothered to look it up, figuring if he got anything significant, the boobirds would have pointed it out), and if he gets cut (no injury) that's his one week rental.
RE: RE: I'm still wondering about several teams being interested in him  
Big Blue '56 : 9/3/2015 8:56 am : link
In comment 12450348 Montreal Man said:
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In comment 12450002 micky said:


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never saw whom they "all" were



Whom! Excellent grammar.


I've had a problem with "who" and "whom" from time to time..I have always believed that "who" was plural and "whom" was singular..Please set me straight..:)
RE: section125  
section125 : 9/3/2015 9:00 am : link
In comment 12450353 fkap said:
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nitpicking, but...if SB gets injured tonight, he'll get an injury settlement, which is likely to be more than 40K. I assume the 40K is his signing bonus (haven't bothered to look it up, figuring if he got anything significant, the boobirds would have pointed it out), and if he gets cut (no injury) that's his one week rental.


Yeah, that is nitpicking. If anyone gets injured they likely get a settlement and I believe I saw he got a $40k signing bonus.
At this point I'm more than  
B in ALB : 9/3/2015 9:38 am : link
willing to give this guy a shot and I hope he is a great addition. But my expectations are very low. Prove is wrong Stevie. Please?
RE: RE: RE: I'm still wondering about several teams being interested in him  
Montreal Man : 9/3/2015 11:09 am : link
In comment 12450366 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12450348 Montreal Man said:


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In comment 12450002 micky said:


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never saw whom they "all" were



Whom! Excellent grammar.



I've had a problem with "who" and "whom" from time to time..I have always believed that "who" was plural and "whom" was singular..Please set me straight..:)


Bruce, time strapped. I'll get to this later, if someone else hasn't.
looks like the people who are complaining about the Stevie Brown  
Jersey55 : 9/3/2015 4:25 pm : link
signing forget the days of having to play guys like C.C. Brown
RE: That's what happens you have practically no bodies  
OC2.0 : 9/3/2015 5:14 pm : link
In comment 12449928 Dave in Hoboken said:
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at a particular position. Ugh. Outrageous amount of injuries at one position and we're not even out of the pre-season yet.


"No bodies" Last I looked there was 5. Well 4 1/2.
RE: RE: That's what happens you have practically no bodies  
OC2.0 : 9/3/2015 5:15 pm : link
In comment 12451661 OC2.0 said:
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In comment 12449928 Dave in Hoboken said:


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at a particular position. Ugh. Outrageous amount of injuries at one position and we're not even out of the pre-season yet.



"No bodies" Last I looked there was 5. Well 4 1/2.


Sorry, nevermind the brain cramp
RE: ...  
Disgruntled NYGfan : 9/3/2015 5:47 pm : link
Brown may not be McCourty, but frankly, he's immediately better than anyone else on the roster right now at S, except maybe Collins. The signing makes our team stronger, even if Brown has his flaws.

Alternatively, we could always line up the way the Redskins did on the first play of the season after Sean Taylor was killed.
RE: Since Brown got the same amount of guaranteed cash as Conway (zero)...  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/3/2015 7:27 pm : link
In comment 12450201 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... I wouldn't have expected a lot of pre-signing due diligence. This is a no-risk tryout.


^ I agree with this.

I don't understand why some of you guys get so bent out of shape over these kind of no-risk signings.

We needed another body, that's it. If we need to we can ditch him and get another body. No risk. WTF.
RE: RE: RE: I'm still wondering about several teams being interested in him  
Montreal Man : 9/4/2015 8:11 am : link
In comment 12450366 Big Blue '56 said:
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I've had a problem with "who" and "whom" from time to time..I have always believed that "who" was plural and "whom" was singular..Please set me straight..:)


Hey, Bruce ...

Here's the difference:

Who is used in the subjective case, i.e., as the subject of a sentence.

A helpful trick is to substitute the matching personal pronoun and see if it makes sense.

Who was that masked man? Subjective case. HE was the masked man, not Him was the masked man.
He is the guy who stole your money. Subjective case. HE stole your money, not HIM stole your money.

Whom is used in the objective case, often as the object of a prepositional phrase.

Jerry Reese is the man in whom we trust. We trust HIM, not He.
Six men,ofwhom all were BBI posters, took over coaching the team and led the Giants to the Super Bowl.
Not the best example because it's plural and you'd use THEY were BBI posters.

OR

We wondered whom Coach Couglin's tirade was about. Whom, objective case because the tirade was about HIM or HER, (the unknown person) which is the objective personal pronoun. It's not the subjective case because you wouldn't say, the tirade was about he/she. Another example:

Jerry Reese consulted an astrologer, whom he met in Seattle. Objective case because Reese (he) met HIM (objective case) in Seattle. You wouldn't say Reese met he.

Hope that helps. There'll be a quiz tomorrow.
So it's not whom on first? :)  
Big Blue '56 : 9/4/2015 8:27 am : link
Thanks John, that obviously makes a lot of sense..Never too old to be well-schooled..
Glad it helped.  
Montreal Man : 9/4/2015 9:00 am : link
Your "not whom's on first" gives me an idea for a comedy bit, if I can do it right.

It's Bad Grammar Abbot and Costello.

We'll see if I can make something out of it.
RE: Glad it helped.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/4/2015 9:02 am : link
In comment 12452944 Montreal Man said:
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Your "not whom's on first" gives me an idea for a comedy bit, if I can do it right.

It's Bad Grammar Abbot and Costello.

We'll see if I can make something out of it.


Let me know when you do..
RE: Glad it helped.  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/4/2015 9:28 am : link
In comment 12452944 Montreal Man said:
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Your "not whom's on first" gives me an idea for a comedy bit, if I can do it right.

It's Bad Grammar Abbot and Costello.

We'll see if I can make something out of it.


If it helps any JB - I've always thought the good doctor was a comedy skit
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