for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

Giants 2015 Draft

Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:34 am
might produce 4 starters that will be average to above average starters in this League. They might have as many as 6. This was a grand slam draft.
please...  
Hem Roid : 9/4/2015 9:37 am : link
slow down your horse ...
Starters  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:39 am : link
Flowers( meet your 10 year anchor)
Hart( down the road)
Collins(might be a beast)
OO(might be a beast)

Davis( he is a player, what his ceiling is, ??0
Thompson( huge ? mark at this point, but they liked him a lot and we shall see)
Please  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:39 am : link
leave me alone
I see  
Doomster : 9/4/2015 9:41 am : link
Flowers and Collins, anything more is wishful thinking...
OK?  
chiefmps : 9/4/2015 9:42 am : link
I can see two but four? Odighizuwa and Hart, depth this year and who knows after that.
Heard good things about  
Randy in CT : 9/4/2015 9:42 am : link
Owa so far.
HH...  
Capt. Don : 9/4/2015 9:42 am : link
Ride your horse as fast as you damn well please! You know why? Because this is a football message board where wild speculation/optimism doesnt actually hurt the team because none of us are decision makers.

Im with you! Reese has been very good in the early rounds; hopefully this is the year we have nailed down a few diamonds in the rough later in the draft.
I am impressed by Davis  
BeerFridge : 9/4/2015 9:42 am : link
Gives an indication about how bad the UCONN QB situation was for him. Can't throw the ball to yourself.
RE: I see  
Jay on the Island : 9/4/2015 9:45 am : link
In comment 12453019 Doomster said:
Quote:
Flowers and Collins, anything more is wishful thinking...

By your usual posts i am shocked you didn't say zero.
Capt. Don  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:47 am : link
I couldn't care less what some of the fucking morons on this site think.
Why don't we at least wait until after the Dallas game  
jeff57 : 9/4/2015 9:47 am : link
before we start popping the champagne.
So far, the top three appear to be as advertised.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/4/2015 9:48 am : link
That's encouraging. The first two are immediate starters (for better are worse), and Odighizuwa will figure prominently in the DE rotation soon, if not on Day 1.

Davis and Hart have been pleasant surprises, though it would be wildly premature to pencil them in as future starters. On the other hand, Thompson might be viewed as a write-off for now: he was a developmental prospect even before suffering a huge injury setback that will cost him at least a year.
Then,  
Doomster : 9/4/2015 9:49 am : link
RE: I see
Jay on the Island : 9:45 am : link : reply
In comment 12453019 Doomster said:
Quote:
Flowers and Collins, anything more is wishful thinking...

By your usual posts i am shocked you didn't say zero.



You obviously don't read the entire content of my posts, you pick and choose, like most on BBI....
RE: So far, the top three appear to be as advertised.  
Hem Roid : 9/4/2015 9:49 am : link
In comment 12453040 Big Blue Blogger said:
Quote:
That's encouraging. The first two are immediate starters (for better are worse), and Odighizuwa will figure prominently in the DE rotation soon, if not on Day 1.

Davis and Hart have been pleasant surprises, though it would be wildly premature to pencil them in as future starters. On the other hand, Thompson might be viewed as a write-off for now: he was a developmental prospect even before suffering a huge injury setback that will cost him at least a year.



immediate starters bc they NEED to be ... #58 is raw, not there yet ...
I said 4  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:51 am : link
and I see 4
RE: Why don't we at least wait until after the Dallas game  
Capt. Don : 9/4/2015 9:52 am : link
In comment 12453039 jeff57 said:
Quote:
before we start popping the champagne.


Yeah...dont you all see the harm this is bringing the team? A guy on a football message board is optimistic about draft picks who have played well so far! If fans lose focus the team is doomed!
the preason is over ...  
Hem Roid : 9/4/2015 9:55 am : link
4 dress rehearsal games over with and you still have the basic weakness glaring through that have been present for 3 seasons now ...

the failure to run the ball with any success

the failure to stop the run with any success

defensive secondary confusion

lack of continuity when on offense (I understand Eli didtn take a snap, but its been that way with him at the helm as well)


Capt. Don  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 9:55 am : link
it goes against their negative DNA. To them everything in life is shit, the football team they "root' for is just one more shitty thing like their wives, their jobs, their families, their places where they live, the money they dont make and it goes on and on
RE: Starters  
Jon in NYC : 9/4/2015 10:01 am : link
In comment 12453014 Headhunter said:
Quote:
Flowers( meet your 10 year anchor)
Hart( down the road)
Collins(might be a beast)
OO(might be a beast)

Davis( he is a player, what his ceiling is, ??0
Thompson( huge ? mark at this point, but they liked him a lot and we shall see)


I'm with you until Davis and Thompson.
RE: the preason is over ...  
Capt. Don : 9/4/2015 10:01 am : link
In comment 12453058 Hem Roid said:
Quote:
4 dress rehearsal games over with and you still have the basic weakness glaring through that have been present for 3 seasons now ...

the failure to run the ball with any success

the failure to stop the run with any success

defensive secondary confusion

lack of continuity when on offense (I understand Eli didtn take a snap, but its been that way with him at the helm as well)


None of that has anything to do with HH's post. He is talking about 4 draft picks, not the team as a whole.
Collins was all over the field  
pjcas18 : 9/4/2015 10:03 am : link
last night and had a nice pass break up on 3rd down. I think he'll be good, and Flowers will be steady as a rookie and hopefully become a stalwart.

Double O got good reviews from his performance last night too as did Geremy Davis.

these past three drafts have yielded more in terms of starters than the combined rest of Reese's tenure.

2014 was a HR (Beckham, Richburg, and Kennard all started as rookies, Beckham went to the pro-bowl).

2013 yielded Pugh and Hankins, plus Moore still has potential as does Cooper Taylor.

If 2015 can produce the 4 starters you mention then Reese would have added 50% of the teams 22 starters in 3 years.

Now, if they could experience some on-field success (in terms of W/L) it will be more notable.
Why not use anything positive to turn it into a negative rant  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 10:05 am : link
about the team in general? Happens every thread that is remotely rosy
RE: Capt. Don  
jeff57 : 9/4/2015 10:07 am : link
In comment 12453059 Headhunter said:
Quote:
it goes against their negative DNA. To them everything in life is shit, the football team they "root' for is just one more shitty thing like their wives, their jobs, their families, their places where they live, the money they dont make and it goes on and on


Amazing what can be deduced from a post on a football site. Of course, you could just be projecting.
nah  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 10:09 am : link
I never met a successful happy person that was negative all the time, never
HH I'm with you  
Still a Sam Huff fan : 9/4/2015 10:12 am : link
This isn't just blind optimism. All four can and probably will make a positive impact on this team. They've shown their athleticism and their desire/work ethic.

The naysayers be damned. And I think the silent majority would agree.
Look  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 10:13 am : link
I'm just 1 fan with 1 opinion.
There are no 10 year players in the NFL anymore  
arniefez : 9/4/2015 10:19 am : link
especially on the Giants who rarely resign their players to a second contract. I'll be happy if any of these guys stay healthy during their rookie contracts.
Right Now  
nygiants16 : 9/4/2015 10:20 am : link
Collins looks like the starting Safety for the next 10 years..

Flowers looks like the starting LT for the next 10 years...

Owa has shown situational pass rush skills, against the Jets he showed he could set an edge but for right now he will be a situational pass rusher, maybe in the nascar package...

Thompson was getting some first team reps in practice but the injury hurts, hopefully he cna fully recover and come back next year...

Davis looks like he can be a good possession receiver, kind of reminds me of James Jones, a guy that is not going to wow you with athleticism and speed but will go up and get the ball and is good when you need a first down...very strong when attacking the ball...

Hart has looked good against 2nd and 3rd stringers but he is the back up this year and hopefully next year he can make the jump to RT and that would kind of solidify the line but for right now he is a back up...
nygiants16  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 10:22 am : link
pretty much the way I see it
I'm hopeful, but it's way too soon to say that.  
Victor in CT : 9/4/2015 10:23 am : link
Let's see when the real shootin' starts
Agree, HH  
clatterbuck : 9/4/2015 10:25 am : link
and was about to start a similar post. Flowers, Collins and Odi look like they can really play. Flowers will have rookie issues but he's a tough kid, isn't intimidated, appears mature beyond his years, and could very likely be a 10-year fixture. And I just hope the football gods keep Collins healthy. Odi needs reps, coaching but already looks like a competent rotational player with a big upside. And Hart is a 20-year old kid who could develop into a Seubert-type player down the road. And the perspective goes beyond Dallas on 9/13 and beyond this season.
RE: There are no 10 year players in the NFL anymore  
nygiants16 : 9/4/2015 10:28 am : link
In comment 12453127 arniefez said:
Quote:
especially on the Giants who rarely resign their players to a second contract. I'll be happy if any of these guys stay healthy during their rookie contracts.


Rarely resign players to second contracts?

Osi, Tuck, Strahan, Kiwanuka, Eli, Bradshaw, Jacobs, Snee, Dhiel, Webster, Ross, Terrell Thomas, David Tyree, Deossi, Will beatty,

Yeah that is rarely...good try though
OO has shown more then enough  
BillT : 9/4/2015 10:29 am : link
To believe he's going to be a solid contributor if not an almost certain starter. Davis will contribute as well.
nygiants16  
Headhunter : 9/4/2015 10:30 am : link
just throwing in Eli is about to sign his 3rd contract
If  
PaulN : 9/4/2015 10:33 am : link
You don't look at last seasons draft and this seasons draft as home runs, then you are a miserable Giants fan, since there is nothing good about the previous 2 or 3. Might as well focus on the last two.
RE: Why don't we at least wait until after the Dallas game  
BigBlueShock : 9/4/2015 10:38 am : link
In comment 12453039 jeff57 said:
Quote:
before we start popping the champagne.

Champagne? Wtf is wrong with you? Who here is popping champagne? Because the OP likes the potential of the draft picks?

Get outta here with that nonsense. The negativity around here is unbelievable. Why bother watching sports if you're always so miserable?
HH  
mrvax : 9/4/2015 11:27 am : link
Immediately after the draft, I felt the Giants did a fantastic job and got what appears to be 3 first rounders.

Even more with 4,5,6 starters? If so, that's likely the best draft the Giants ever had. Not putting anyone in Canton yet but the last 2-3 drafts show a marked improvement.
hey beezer  
Rocky369 : 9/4/2015 11:34 am : link
put this in your season's prediction thread, store it in the air duct and come back to us in 4-5 years.
A grand slam draft before they even play one meaningful game?  
Boy Cord : 9/4/2015 2:57 pm : link
After the 2012 season Griffin and Morris looked like they were going to the Hall of Fame. Unbelievable rookie years. Griffin's demise is well known, but several of the talking heads in DC feel Matt Jones will take over as their number one RB this season.

The good news is we aren't getting reports that the draft picks can't play. That is the kiss-of-death. I think we can all be very hopeful.
Back to the Corner