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Cruz and Beason OUT for Sunday

nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 1:46 pm
Art Stapleton & #8207;@art_stapleton 34s35 seconds ago
#Giants have declared Victor Cruz (calf) and Jon Beason (knee) OUT for Sunday night. #NYG

Beason's knee must have really swelled up after practice Wednesday...
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So What Else Is New  
pa_giant_fan : 9/11/2015 1:47 pm : link
.
Not really confident  
Rflairr : 9/11/2015 1:48 pm : link
This week
Unbelievable  
Chris684 : 9/11/2015 1:48 pm : link
It's game numero uno and we are without

JPP, Beatty, Cruz and Beason.
We need to get rid of Beason.  
Bramton1 : 9/11/2015 1:48 pm : link
The guy is less durable than Sam Bradford.
Pathetic.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/11/2015 1:49 pm : link
Can't wait to see how many injuries we get on Sunday night.
....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/11/2015 1:49 pm : link
Eck. JT Thomas in the middle with Casillas weakside?
I've really tried to support Beason  
nyynyg : 9/11/2015 1:49 pm : link
but I'd changed camps. We just can't rely on the guy, sucks because he's a pretty good player but not a very good one when out all the time.
Reese giving Beason that money  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/11/2015 1:50 pm : link
was so, so dumb considering his injury history.
RE: ....  
jeff57 : 9/11/2015 1:50 pm : link
In comment 12469156 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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Eck. JT Thomas in the middle with Casillas weakside?


Brinkley or Unga should start in the middle
More concerned about Cruz  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/11/2015 1:51 pm : link
Hoping it's not like Nat Berhe.
RE: I've really tried to support Beason  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 1:51 pm : link
In comment 12469159 nyynyg said:
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but I'd changed camps. We just can't rely on the guy, sucks because he's a pretty good player but not a very good one when out all the time.


Same here really rooting for him this year but i think it is time to cut bait, even if he comes back for week 2 he is just going to get hurt again...

Go with Unga, at least you will have 3 athletic LBs...
The best ability is availability......  
dk in TX : 9/11/2015 1:51 pm : link
Why can't they cut Beason and get over this nightmare already. When has he ever been healthy since he came to the Giants? Sheeeesh!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow....  
jvm52106 : 9/11/2015 1:51 pm : link
that hurts.. I suspect we will see more 34 fronts to compensate for some of our weaknesses up the middle.

Bunch of pussies on this thread.  
Beezer : 9/11/2015 1:52 pm : link
Next men up.

Let's GO!!!
Ugh  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/11/2015 1:52 pm : link
Cruz I expected, but Beason I was counting on.

Where's McClain again?

UGH.
RE: RE: I've really tried to support Beason  
Fort Mill Mike : 9/11/2015 1:53 pm : link
In comment 12469165 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 12469159 nyynyg said:


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but I'd changed camps. We just can't rely on the guy, sucks because he's a pretty good player but not a very good one when out all the time.



Same here really rooting for him this year but i think it is time to cut bait, even if he comes back for week 2 he is just going to get hurt again...

Go with Unga, at least you will have 3 athletic LBs...


Isn't Unga gimpy, too? What's Chase Blackburn up to these days?
JK
And so it begins...  
LG in NYC : 9/11/2015 1:54 pm : link
in much the same way as it ended last year.
I would assume  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 1:55 pm : link
Thomas or Kennard have the Green sticker Sunday night...
Umm..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/11/2015 1:56 pm : link
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When has he ever been healthy since he came to the Giants?


His entire first year here in 2013.
Maybe we should have PUP'd Cruz  
David in LA : 9/11/2015 1:57 pm : link
I don't know. This shit is so frustrating. Just venting here.
RE: The best ability is availability......  
wigs in nyc : 9/11/2015 1:57 pm : link
In comment 12469168 dk in TX said:
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Why can't they cut Beason and get over this nightmare already. When has he ever been healthy since he came to the Giants? Sheeeesh!!!!!!!!!!!!


And replace him with who? What does cutting him solve? I agree that they can't rely on him, but at this point, his presence isn't preventing the team from finding a solution by other means. There is plenty of cap space.
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Danny Kanell : 9/11/2015 1:57 pm : link
Beason really is a fucking disaster.
Any shot we resign McClain?  
Giantcol22 : 9/11/2015 1:57 pm : link
I know it's not happening but it wouldn't be the worst idea. Shouldn't have been cut in the first place.
Why doesn't TC keep Cowboys guessing?  
Andy in Boston : 9/11/2015 1:58 pm : link
Why announce it now?
RE: Ugh  
Curtis in VA : 9/11/2015 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12469173 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Cruz I expected, but Beason I was counting on.

Where's McClain again?

UGH.


Well the thing is... McClain got 100 tackles last year and all but... they needed a spot for Mark Herzlich cuz he's really good at special teams.
RE: Maybe we should have PUP'd Cruz  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 1:58 pm : link
In comment 12469186 David in LA said:
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I don't know. This shit is so frustrating. Just venting here.


Never going to happen, he passed his physical and was a go from day 1 from the knee...
RE: Why doesn't TC keep Cowboys guessing?  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 1:59 pm : link
In comment 12469194 Andy in Boston said:
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Why announce it now?


I think League rules state they have to declare today...
The front office has done a fine job  
Giants2012 : 9/11/2015 2:00 pm : link
at the linebacker position.
sounds like Unga is the starter  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 2:01 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 23s23 seconds ago
Coughlin on middle linebacker: 'We're prepared for that." Indicates Unga is the guy #Giants
No surprise  
KWALL2 : 9/11/2015 2:01 pm : link
and nothing they can't overcome.

I'd like to see more of Harris in the slot. He can replace Cruz.
Two prime candidates  
dep026 : 9/11/2015 2:01 pm : link
to be cut next year, regardless of cap implications.
RE: No surprise  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 2:03 pm : link
In comment 12469204 KWALL2 said:
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and nothing they can't overcome.

I'd like to see more of Harris in the slot. He can replace Cruz.


I think you see vereen in the slot a lot Sunday night rather than Parker...

I also think harris will come on and play outside moving Odell in the slot...

They are going to move Odell all over the field...

RE: Two prime candidates  
Britt in VA : 9/11/2015 2:03 pm : link
In comment 12469206 dep026 said:
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to be cut next year, regardless of cap implications.


Cruz?
time to cut ties with Beason  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/11/2015 2:04 pm : link
love the guy, but time after time after time after time, all he does is occupy a roster spot....a shitty 4th stringer is better than a guy who can't even suit up...I say 1 more chance and that's it...he comes back after this and if he does not finish the season, misses 1 lousy game, cut him. I am so sick of this
The kid has to step up  
micky : 9/11/2015 2:04 pm : link
look at Pats center last night..duplicate.
RE: Two prime candidates  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/11/2015 2:04 pm : link
In comment 12469206 dep026 said:
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to be cut next year, regardless of cap implications.


Cruz? Nope.

Something to watch  
jvm52106 : 9/11/2015 2:05 pm : link
is this could be season affecting for Beason. If his knee swelled up, which is what we are assuming, after a hard practice, what will happen after a full on game (60 minute game)? Based on his past injuries and the wear and tear on his body, do not be shocked if this isn't more of a problem than has been reported. (my opinion)
RE: More concerned about Cruz  
AcidTest : 9/11/2015 2:05 pm : link
In comment 12469164 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Hoping it's not like Nat Berhe.


Agreed. That is definitely a valid concern.

As far as Beason is concerned, he is clearly still bothered by old injuries, as evidenced by the swelling in his knee. Getting through practice for him is becoming more and more difficult. If we can't get anything or much out of him by week three, I'd put him on IR. Although I was initially against it, trading for him was fine. It was just a seventh round pick. Resigning him though was obviously a mistake.
Is Brinkley too new  
Simms11 : 9/11/2015 2:05 pm : link
to start at MLB? I can't see Unga starting, unless he comes in on passing downs. He appears too light at MLB and got bowled over a few times in preseason. I did like his athleticism though. We have to be capable of stopping Dallas's running game first and foremost. Collins will have his hands full in this game. There is no way our defense is ready for this. Offense and Specials have to click in this game for us to have any chance.
Actually, this is a "prove it" year for Cruz  
PEEJ : 9/11/2015 2:06 pm : link
If he can't rebound, he'll have to take a pay cut
I said it on another thread  
Bill in UT : 9/11/2015 2:06 pm : link
I was a big Beason supporter, but I think it's time to take our losses and move on. He can't be counted on
Beason  
rocco8112 : 9/11/2015 2:06 pm : link
needs to be cut.

Coach Killer
If we have all this cap space  
dep026 : 9/11/2015 2:07 pm : link
Cruz would probably be number 1. And I will have no problem admitting I am wrong, but people getting hyped for his return should be prepared for him not to perform to the levels they want.

1. He is coming off a major injury and developed another serious one in the process.
2. He has been in decline since 2011 (people forget how bad he was in 2013).
3. He was the league leader in drops before his injury last year.

I do believe that Cruz is more important in the offense this year than OBJ. Just look at what Edelman brings to NE's offense. Just vital to have. I just dont think he can play at that level anymore.
Yadda...  
silverfox : 9/11/2015 2:08 pm : link
...yadda, yadda.
Beason is out? Really  
Victor in CT : 9/11/2015 2:08 pm : link
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!! - Capt. Renault
RE: Actually, this is a  
Britt in VA : 9/11/2015 2:08 pm : link
In comment 12469225 PEEJ said:
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If he can't rebound, he'll have to take a pay cut


Dude is coming off a major knee injury from during last season.

I think he deserves a season to get back to 100%. It hasn't even been a calendar year, yet.
RE: Is Brinkley too new  
nygiants16 : 9/11/2015 2:09 pm : link
In comment 12469224 Simms11 said:
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to start at MLB? I can't see Unga starting, unless he comes in on passing downs. He appears too light at MLB and got bowled over a few times in preseason. I did like his athleticism though. We have to be capable of stopping Dallas's running game first and foremost. Collins will have his hands full in this game. There is no way our defense is ready for this. Offense and Specials have to click in this game for us to have any chance.


If they feel Brinkley is ready he could play in base on running downs...he is not athletic enough though to play on passing downs...

Eventually thought he may be the starting Middle if Beason can not get back...

Unga is good on passing downs because he is very athletic and quick for LB...
I don't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/11/2015 2:10 pm : link
understand why Jameel McClain was cut given this situation. If they were concerned about the neck, then why did he play in the preseason?
If the team had cut Jon Beason last year  
ghost718 : 9/11/2015 2:10 pm : link
Who would be playing middle linebacker for the Giants?

Probably the same guy starting this Sunday.
RE: Two prime candidates  
TyFromQueens : 9/11/2015 2:10 pm : link
In comment 12469206 dep026 said:
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to be cut next year, regardless of cap implications.



Cut Cruz?

You serious?
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