Julian Talley or Preston Parker

tell that dinosaur of a head coach. As if Parker wasn't trash last year, he wants to see a repeat of the Colts game, or he's trying to get himself fired.

This McAdoo offense is supposedly much easier to learn for WRs than Gilbride's- no option routes, reading the defense and redirecting the route, emphasis on body language, etc. Throw the rook out there and see what he can do. Can't be worse than that sh!tshow performance by Preston Parker.

Receiving significant PT on Sunday.

because he can return punts and kickoffs, well, we have Harris for that now. Darkwa can do it if Harris gets injured.

I don't see a reason to keep Parker on the team.

he needs to be sat down too no point of having him out there to jog routes. Get Davis some BURN!!

Sheesh..

Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game?

People would be let go, left and right

With Parker. But he can't catch to save his life.

In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said:

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Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right

BB56, i would normally agree with you. But couple of things. One, it is still really unclear as to why Parker is #3, that is more opinion of mine and one unfortunately that Parker himself helped make my case.

Second is real. TC has benched people for fumbles in the past. I would argue that Parker played that poorly like he was turning the ball over. Fortunately we got some FGs but he contributed greatly to this loss.

In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said:

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Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right

It's not one game - we've been waiting on Parker to make a positive contribution for awhile now. He's just not that good a player.

In comment 12481839 jcn56 said:

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In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right It's not one game - we've been waiting on Parker to make a positive contribution for awhile now. He's just not that good a player.

I'm not a Parker fan and wanted him cut and Jones kept(for now) even if Jones doesn't play the slot..But 1 game?

everyone is bitching about Parker but has randle dont fucking anything?

he was completely absent sunday night basically like his entire career

He seemed like a fine backup option to Cruz, and contributed on special teams quite a bit. But there must have been something about him that we didn't know.

doesn't matter

In comment 12481852 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 12481839 jcn56 said: Quote: In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right It's not one game - we've been waiting on Parker to make a positive contribution for awhile now. He's just not that good a player. I'm not a Parker fan and wanted him cut and Jones kept(for now) even if Jones doesn't play the slot..But 1 game?

You keep saying 1 game but it's not - it goes back to last season, and the preseason. He's had opportunity and done squat with it.

Yes, he's young, but to this point there's nothing in his body of work to suggest he's ever going to be better than what he is right now - which is awful.

I'm not suggesting Jones - he'd be out of position there. I'm also not saying someone else would certainly be better. I just don't think someone else would be any worse, and would have more upside than Parker.

should be cut. He had drop problems last year as well. He's reached his ceiling, and it's pretty low. Talley may not be any better, but he might be.

I also agree about getting more reps for Davis. Aside from Beckham, we just have possession receivers. So we might as well put the best ones on the field. Davis is a big body who can box out defenders. He also showed good hands during the preseason.

We need to see more from Randle before sitting him, but he looked slow last Sunday, like he was still bothered by his knees.

We're not bringing back Jernigan. That ship has sailed.

In comment 12481885 jcn56 said:

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In comment 12481852 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 12481839 jcn56 said: Quote: In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right It's not one game - we've been waiting on Parker to make a positive contribution for awhile now. He's just not that good a player. I'm not a Parker fan and wanted him cut and Jones kept(for now) even if Jones doesn't play the slot..But 1 game? You keep saying 1 game but it's not - it goes back to last season, and the preseason. He's had opportunity and done squat with it. Yes, he's young, but to this point there's nothing in his body of work to suggest he's ever going to be better than what he is right now - which is awful. I'm not suggesting Jones - he'd be out of position there. I'm also not saying someone else would certainly be better. I just don't think someone else would be any worse, and would have more upside than Parker.

I'm trying to play Devil's Advocate(not in chris r form; end my life if I ever do) here..He plays Specials, right now he's our only option, unless you want to throw Davis in there(I know, in retrospect, how much worse could he have been?)..I try not to focus on the season before, people improve(or not) from one season to the next..I just think saying same old, same old after 1 game is silly imo..That said, For the short term until and when Cruz is ready, Wes Welker could be an option, imv

No I remember a few drops Parker had last year too.. I think he's been given enough opportunity now,, I guess he's a hard worker, good attitude & the coaches like him because of that.. wouldn't pull someone off the roster for 1 bad game, just don't think he has very good hands.. Tally on the other hand does, he was on the PS last year, let him play,, or give Harris more playing time at WR.. Regarding Randle, I agree, with the tendinitis his contribution has been almost non-existent. And James Jones 2 TD's Sunday was just salt in the wound..

In comment 12481864 Tuckrule said:

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everyone is bitching about Parker but has randle dont fucking anything? he was completely absent sunday night basically like his entire career

Don't worry I hear "he's breaking out this year", which is like a triple Deja Vu. it's his "contract year" after all.

that has not impressed. He is giving chance after chance and continues to not take advantage of what is in front of him. This goes back to last season not one game.

It's not like we're dealing with an unknown there.

Parker has always been Parker - he's been worse, and he's never been any better, and likely won't ever be.

The STs argument is weak - because he contributes nothing on offense. I'd rather have someone who stands still on STs but could possibly help out the O in some positive way.

last year in the Colts game and took the wind out of the whole team. He must be a Coughlin guy, you know they love a great story more than they love talent. See Kuhn and Herzlich.

he is who he is, a bottom of the WR heap sub..Hopefully, Cruz comes back sooner rather than later and it renders this discussion academic..

In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said:

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Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right

Parker was garbage last year too, do you remember the Colt game where he had like 4 drops ?

Julian Assange over Preston Parker right now...

In comment 12481931 Randle MVP said:

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last year in the Colts game and took the wind out of the whole team. He must be a Coughlin guy, you know they love a great story more than they love talent. See Kuhn and Herzlich.

Well the thing there is that he responded the next week catching all 7 passes thrown to him for 79 yards and scoring a TD. He will probably get another chance to respond in the same manner this Sunday.

of whether JJ isn't a slot guy..

I have always been a "new" season guy and not compare 1 season to another, if possible..I'm generally a patient fan and I'm not gonna be apoplectic about a guy after 1 game of a NEW season..Not Sinorice Moss or Jernigan patient, just reasonably so..

In comment 12482014 Curtis in VA said:

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In comment 12481931 Randle MVP said: Quote: last year in the Colts game and took the wind out of the whole team. He must be a Coughlin guy, you know they love a great story more than they love talent. See Kuhn and Herzlich. Well the thing there is that he responded the next week catching all 7 passes thrown to him for 79 yards and scoring a TD. He will probably get another chance to respond in the same manner this Sunday.

and then he responded to that by not getting open the next three games, could've used him in that loss to San Fran. He's cost this team far too often.

Is Neither.

The best man for the job (only while Cruz is out) is Shane Vareen. He's fast, great hands and fresh from being a key component in winning an NFL championship.

He plays a limited (albeit important) role at HB; at the slot, we'd see him on the field a lot more.

The mantra - "you always want your best players on the field" applies very well here. What is an outstanding player like Vareen doing on the bench while a guy like Parker is out there.

In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said:

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Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right

BB56, I usually agree with you, but I am basing my anti-Parker stance on games last year. The guy routinely runs improper routes (incorrect depth, bad leverage) and he has inconsistent hands. The Giants can do better than that. I can't see how Talley is any worse, and he has more upside.

In comment 12481864 Tuckrule said:

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everyone is bitching about Parker but has randle dont fucking anything? he was completely absent sunday night basically like his entire career

I'm ready to move on from him too after this year. I would like to see Davis take some of his snaps as the season goes on. They are the same body type, but Davis seems to show better body control and high-points the ball. This offense needs a big WR who will go up and get it. Randle had single coverage all night against a suspect Cowboys secondary, and did next to nothing.

When Jones was released (even more) seeing him do what he did with the Packers this past Sunday, and thus continued witnessing Randle hobbling around ....

Seems like rookie Davis is the only card left in the deck to spell Randle.

Parker/Randle - As Chester A. Riley famously said, "What a revoltin' development this is !"

In comment 12482465 Emil said:

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In comment 12481864 Tuckrule said: Quote: everyone is bitching about Parker but has randle dont fucking anything? he was completely absent sunday night basically like his entire career I'm ready to move on from him too after this year. I would like to see Davis take some of his snaps as the season goes on. They are the same body type, but Davis seems to show better body control and high-points the ball. This offense needs a big WR who will go up and get it. Randle had single coverage all night against a suspect Cowboys secondary, and did next to nothing.

I could be mistaken but I don't think he runs bad routes. He seems to do a lot of those little things well, which is why the coaches continue to use him. He is reliable when it comes to knowing what to do and doing it. He's just inconsistent with his hands. I've been a Parker fan for a while because I like his attitude and he's easy to root for but I'm also ready to move on at this point. Granted, if Cruz were healthy Parker wouldn't be on the field to begin with but, they could definitely use a better player there.

In comment 12482454 Emil said:

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In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right BB56, I usually agree with you, but I am basing my anti-Parker stance on games last year. The guy routinely runs improper routes (incorrect depth, bad leverage) and he has inconsistent hands. The Giants can do better than that. I can't see how Talley is any worse, and he has more upside.

That's cool..I still wouldn't mind bringing in Welker, short term or until Cruz is fit to go

(Of Parker) - "He's just inconsistent with his hands"

Correspondingly; (for mechanics, crane operators, neurosurgeons). "He's not bad, just inconsistent with his hands"

By the way, how much is he getting paid ?

In comment 12482630 Manny in CA said:

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(Of Parker) - "He's just inconsistent with his hands" Correspondingly; (for mechanics, crane operators, neurosurgeons). "He's not bad, just inconsistent with his hands" By the way, how much is he getting paid ?

I meant compared to someone like Nicks or Beckham. When the ball is thrown to him, he normally catches it. He had a bad game last night and a bad game last season against the Colts that everyone keeps bringing up. He's made some plays as well. He is what he is...a guy that does everything fairly well but nothing great. Coughlin has a soft spot for players who can do multiple tasks, even when they don't excel at anything.

In comment 12481824 Big Blue '56 said:

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Sheesh.. Imagine making definitive player decisions based on 1 game? People would be let go, left and right

I agree with you a lot of people jump to conclusions about players after week 1. In the case of Parker, he had a tendancy to drop balls last year and hasn't shown any improvement. I was shocked when he got the nod over Harris this year.