It is conceivable that the giants lose to Wash tonight even though we've traditionally done very well against them in the coughlin regime, including last year's early season Thursday nighter in Wash.
If we were reasonably healthy, I would be more confident in our chances.
As much as it may be tempting to call on reese, coughlin, everyone to be fired, it is still a very long season and there are a lot of winnable games out there. If we can get cruz, DRC and flowers back next week and otherwise keep it together health wise, this team can still get on a run. we even went on a run in 2013 after starting 0-6 and made things interesting in a playoff push and that team was not as talented as this version. Coughlin teams tend to be streaky in both directions
So if the Giants lose, take a deep breath, enjoy the fresh air over the weekend, and maybe next week in buffalo, where in 2007 our super bowl run started, will be the game where the stars are aligned, we are reasonably healthy and ready to ignite this season.
IMO, if we lose tonight but put out a good effort and minimize the mistakes, it won't be too bad. If we lose another one in dramatic, boneheaded fashion, I don't think the team's psyche will hold up.
Hard to believe our season may be over before 10/1
Why do posters bring up former seasons to back up their post? Each season is a discrete entity in itself.....
When this season is over, at least we can put to rest, "Coughlin wins a SB every 4 years}.....
Tonight could be the turning point in the season imo...one way or the other.
3 losses is pretty much the death knell. Especially 2 losses in the division and at home this early. I think it will absolutely zap their enthusiasm.
3 losses is pretty much the death knell. Especially 2 losses in the division and at home this early. I think it will absolutely zap their enthusiasm.
So, statistically, your assertion that everything is OK if they lose is just a bunch of baloney.
1-2 and they are still iffy. 0-3 and they are done and the Coughlin haters will be circling. It will be 10 days of recycled 2006 Gary Myers "Coughlin is GOne" columns.
The TC era is over
Chart of records against playoff percentage - ( New Window )
1-2 and they are still iffy. 0-3 and they are done and the Coughlin haters will be circling. It will be 10 days of recycled 2006 Gary Myers "Coughlin is GOne" columns.
Victor - what changes would you make to turn the giants fortunes around in the offseason, since you obviously believe that this season is likely over and you don't believe that coughlin should lose his job?
They changed the defensive coordinator this year and the offensive coordinator last year. Would it be counter productive to bring in a new coach and a whole new staff and do it all over again? If you replace Coughlin from within, such as making McAdoo or Spags the head coach, are you really changing much?
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rants Les one-ups them. Yeah, 0-3 and then the playoff push begins.
1-2 and they are still iffy. 0-3 and they are done and the Coughlin haters will be circling. It will be 10 days of recycled 2006 Gary Myers "Coughlin is GOne" columns.
Victor - what changes would you make to turn the giants fortunes around in the offseason, since you obviously believe that this season is likely over and you don't believe that coughlin should lose his job?
Not only are you delusional, but you either have poor reading comprehension skills or just like to make things up. I never said Coughlin should not lose his job. What I HAVE said is that Reese is equally or more responsible and should be canned as well. The Giants are paying for 5 years of poor drafts and FA signings. The last 2 years look okay so far but it's too soon to say.
What's needed: More DL/OL, more physical style, northeast weather tested players, no more taking chances on guys with injury histories.
but stay classy
This isn't the 2014 or 2013 Giants, the arrow is pointing up and there's incremental improvements through two games.
Getting and staying healthy are desperately needed.
Winning the SB isn't going to happen every year, teams go through stages of development as they rise through the ranks. If you deem success/failure based on winning the SB, it must suck.
If we win, we're right back in the mix.
This is a huge game. It sounds silly to call a Week 3 game against the Redskins "huge" but it really is.
Lets just hope we won't have to find out.
Just win tonight and go from there.
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It sounds like you're are saying that 0-2 is worse than 0-3 would be?
Ahh, Yes the worse part of 0-3 would be the fact that they would be 0-2 in the division. I read over it quickly and the way it was worded I missed his point.
but stay classy
I was referring to the fact that their will be a media circus around the team with the speculation about the coaching staffs return.
This isn't the 2014 or 2013 Giants, the arrow is pointing up and there's incremental improvements through two games.
Getting and staying healthy are desperately needed.
Winning the SB isn't going to happen every year, teams go through stages of development as they rise through the ranks. If you deem success/failure based on winning the SB, it must suck.
good post
exactly.
You do raise an interesting hypothetical.
Would you rather be 0-3 with only one loss from the division or 1-2 but both losses are within the division?
You do raise an interesting hypothetical.
Would you rather be 0-3 with only one loss from the division or 1-2 but both losses are within the division?
ugh *No* need
0-2 in division
about as worse a start as you could have
. and You don't think that the players know
that this is definitely TC make or break it year.
so it is entirely possible that after 0-3 the team will tune out TC and the bottom will drop out .
How bout you root for another team? I swear some of you negative fks have your lotion and tissues ready to go as you type these comments.
A loss, especially another 4th qtr. meltdown, & we can, pretty much, just press down the flush handle because Oct. is gonna be tough.
While it was questionable, if not advisable, to move on from TC last year or the year before that, now I don't know how that's debatable.
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are going through the growing pains of learning how to win in the NFL.
This isn't the 2014 or 2013 Giants, the arrow is pointing up and there's incremental improvements through two games.
Getting and staying healthy are desperately needed.
Winning the SB isn't going to happen every year, teams go through stages of development as they rise through the ranks. If you deem success/failure based on winning the SB, it must suck.
good post
Actually, this a terrific post. I think a lot of people are losing sight of what is going on.
We are probably only going to win 6-8 games this season, but another good draft, prudent additions in free agency, and growth of our younger players should put us in good shape for the the final four years of Eli's run.
I think we are caught too much from 2013, with the SB clock crap, and trying to quickly recover last year...it's just not happening that way. The record over the last 50 games, you need to forget it.
I want to see a competitive football team, which after two weeks, we've had.