Special Teams

coverage has impressed me most

Also, all the complaining about trading a 7th rounder for wing sounds might fucking stupid right about now.

He looks like an all pro out there.

isn't exactly good. But outside of that play, they've been good. The punt coverage team especially.

In comment 12508353 GMenLTS said:

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Also, all the complaining about trading a 7th rounder for wing sounds might fucking stupid right about now. He looks like an all pro out there.

I wouldn't go that far. The ATL was definitely better and got way more hang time on his punts. Wing has excelled at pinning them inside the 20 though.

In comment 12508356 giants#1 said:

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isn't exactly good. But outside of that play, they've been good. The punt coverage team especially.

Seriously thought a hold should have been called

actually getting better?

Idk if you can draw that conclusion

a Giant had a return for a TD (Wilson for a kickoff i think) especially on a punt. I think it may have been Hixon but cant recall.

for the hands-team? He made two boners last night -- luckily neither of them cost a possession.

In comment 12508395 BamaBlue said:

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for the hands-team? He made two boners last night -- luckily neither of them cost a possession.

He's a WR, so he better be. Harris is the deep man and I believe Beckham had the "weak" side of the field.

the short kickoffs toward the end of game were killers for us

was over Randle's head. I would call that an error

I think they are done because Brown's leg isn't strong enough to consistently get them out of the end zone (unlike Bosher with ATL who was kicking them out by 10 yards). And when he does attempt to go for the TBs, it's usually much more of a line drive kick so if he only ends up getting it 8-9 yards deep, teams are going to return it with a full head of steam.

These mortar kicks are supposed to be shorter (few yards into the endzone) but with much more hang time allowing the cover unit to get down the field. They've actually worked really well for the most part this year and they've done a good job making plays inside the 20. Unfortunately, they blew the coverage once last night and we saw the result.

formations for Onsides defense, after the two close calls last night. Maybe have more than one guy in the "try to field the kick" position in case the first misses?

The KO return stunk, but we can hope that the team won't keep making the same mistakes that they make late in an early-season game played on 3 days' rest.

No reason not to just let that roll out-of-bounds.

The second one was a really good kick.

in the fourth quarter.....punt return and two onside kicks that weren't fielded cleanly.....in fact, lucky to get both....

Hopefully, just a blip on the radar....

But damn, they made an easy win, look close...

it was a kickoff return, not a punt return...

IMO Harris has a lot to do with it. I expect him to make some big plays for us this year.

We invested heavily in ST in the off-season. Reese and company got a lot if crtitism for bringing in second tier rolevolayer types like Casillas and Thomas. Harris' acquisition was critisized as too expensive for a KR because his role on offense wasn't likely to be more than that of a specialty player. For whatever reason people consistently dismiss his role on the KO and punt defense teams.

Our ST should be a team strength this year.

The players have been awful and in some cases a revolving door. NYG made a commitment and brought in special teams type contributers (Harris etc)

then Quinn would be in the running for WOAT.

Between signing guys to decent contracts just for STs to keeping players who offer little outside of STs on the roster to playing starters on STs, there's not likely a team that's going as all in on that unit right now as the Giants have decided to.

In comment 12508621 djstat said:

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The players have been awful and in some cases a revolving door. NYG made a commitment and brought in special teams type contributers (Harris etc)

This just not true. For several years they have signed or drafted guys specifically with returns in mind. Only Wilson ever did anything above average.

is Wing kicking it through the roof? He seems to be hitting them high.

1) Primarily, it was the blocked punt that made me praise Quinn. that was likely the result of film work and putting that specific player in a position to make a play.

2) The second onside kick was an excellent kick by the Redskins PK. Randle should not have touched the first one.

Rashad Jennings has been on the field in every punt return situation for the Giants this season.

He lines up as the end man in the box, left or right, in a three point, right-handed stance with his head up.

Through film study, the Giants appear to be targeting the "weaker" of the two wings in the punt protection scheme. Last night, it was the Redskins' number 59, Terrance Plummer. Jennings drove Plummer right into the block point, about two feet in front of the punter's foot.

For the Redskins next (and last) punt, Plummer was replaced on the wing by number 89, Derek Carrier.

and pin them inside the 20 is amazing. Weatherford hasn't done that for years. Incredible upgrade.

Wing was. It may have made Weatherford's exit slightly easier to swallow.

for my comfort. They were not blocked too well, but Wing got the ball off pretty quickly too.

In comment 12508693 jv said:

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and pin them inside the 20 is amazing. Weatherford hasn't done that for years. Incredible upgrade.

Very Feagles like.

After that most punts seemed to go out of the end zone on a shorter field.

In comment 12508871 Simms11 said:

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for my comfort. They were not blocked too well, but Wing got the ball off pretty quickly too.

Defenses usually appear to get close to the punter. He didn't look to be in danger of having most punts blocked.

In comment 12508680 AndyB said:

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Rashad Jennings has been on the field in every punt return situation for the Giants this season. He lines up as the end man in the box, left or right, in a three point, right-handed stance with his head up. Through film study, the Giants appear to be targeting the "weaker" of the two wings in the punt protection scheme. Last night, it was the Redskins' number 59, Terrance Plummer. Jennings drove Plummer right into the block point, about two feet in front of the punter's foot. For the Redskins next (and last) punt, Plummer was replaced on the wing by number 89, Derek Carrier.

Thanks. I didn't realize Jennings was one for each PR. But, he was not the end man on either of those 2 punts. He came up the middle. It was reminiscent of a few years ago when they put JPP (?) up the middle on a punt because they saw something to take advantage of.