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1970 NY Giant highlights

averagejoe : 9/27/2015 11:38 am
posted by former MLB Jim Files. For those that remember it was a year the Giants lost the division in the final game. Tarkenton, Ron Johnson, Bob Tucker, Spider Lockhart, Fred Dryer, many good players and good memories. The bad call in the end zone vs Saints cost the Giants the division. Jim Files posted some comments as well and said he left football for the ministry. He was a solid player also. Enjoy!
1970 NY Giant Highlights - ( New Window )
I was at the game, so optimistic  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 11:40 am : link
for the first time since 1963 ended..But we went down 24-3 in the first half, losing 31-3..A painful loss
That was the year when the refs shafted the Giants  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/27/2015 11:56 am : link
out of a win in the first game of the season with a very bad call. It may have cost the Giants the playoffs that year.
Thanks for sharing  
steve in ky : 9/27/2015 11:58 am : link
I haven't watched it all yet but I will. I loved those Giants back then, some of my all time favorite players.

That season ending loss to the Rams that year is still maybe the toughest loss I can recall.
Before my time but awesome piece of history  
dpinzow : 9/27/2015 12:29 pm : link
and even more awesome that a former Giant on that team posted it on Youtube

From the highlights and reading some of the background that 1970 team was the best team in the dark ages between YA Tittle and LT and deserved better
Wow, great memories - that was my first or second year I remember  
PatersonPlank : 9/27/2015 12:31 pm : link
being a Giants fan. Those were my guys, Spider, Ron Johnson, etc. Also it was the best season in the long period of darkness.
Best memory of that season  
HomerJones45 : 9/27/2015 12:41 pm : link
Huge comeback against the Redskins for the win.

Lots of fans got on Tarkenton's ass, but when he was given anything to work with, the Giants didn't lack for offense.

and Ron Johnson was a tremendous running back.
one of my earliest Giants  
bluepepper : 9/27/2015 12:44 pm : link
memories. Was so excited about the Giants making the playoffs. Just had to beat the Rams at home. Listened to radio (blackout in those days) and they got annihilated...turned out to be very good prep for being a Giants fans in the 1970's.
Great video  
Earl the goat : 9/27/2015 12:45 pm : link
Brings back many memories.

Does anyone have a link to the video. Giants among men. Narrated by Pat Summerall. It's of the 1986 season
14 yrs old and at every home game  
sundayatone : 9/27/2015 12:45 pm : link
with my dad,thanks dad.
RE: Best memory of that season  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 12:46 pm : link
In comment 12510812 HomerJones45 said:
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Huge comeback against the Redskins for the win.

Lots of fans got on Tarkenton's ass, but when he was given anything to work with, the Giants didn't lack for offense.

and Ron Johnson was a tremendous running back.


I remember that game..We were down 33-14 into the fourth, so my Dad decides to leave to beat the traffic..Needless to say, we were extremely excited to get the win..Not much lamenting for leaving early as we were halfway home at that point..The traffic out of the Stadium(Yankee) was intolerable after the game
remember sports extra with  
sundayatone : 9/27/2015 12:50 pm : link
bill mazer/lee leonard and then john dockery,and the opening music waiting for giant highlights?
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Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 12:52 pm : link
In comment 12510823 sundayatone said:
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bill mazer/lee leonard and then john dockery,and the opening music waiting for giant highlights?


Yup..Bill Mazer was just about the only sports talk radio show at the time in '64..
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sundayatone : 9/27/2015 12:55 pm : link
In comment 12510826 Big Blue '56 said:
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bill mazer/lee leonard and then john dockery,and the opening music waiting for giant highlights?



Yup..Bill Mazer was just about the only sports talk radio show at the time in '64..


john sterling had a radio show,but anyone remember john kennely on wnew.his son died a couple of weeks ago?
Yes, but Sterling's show(a pretty good one actually)  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 12:57 pm : link
started in thhe early to mid '70s
Great peek back in history  
Canton : 9/27/2015 1:01 pm : link
Thanks
RE: Yes, but Sterling's show(a pretty good one actually)  
sundayatone : 9/27/2015 1:03 pm : link
In comment 12510832 Big Blue '56 said:
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started in thhe early to mid '70s


correct,he used to yell at dumb callers,it was ahead of its time(john has great pipes)
RE: RE: Yes, but Sterling's show(a pretty good one actually)  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 1:06 pm : link
In comment 12510843 sundayatone said:
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started in thhe early to mid '70s



correct,he used to yell at dumb callers,it was ahead of its time(john has great pipes)


True
Enjioyed that a lot!  
SwirlingEddie : 9/27/2015 1:33 pm : link
Spider was my first "favorite Giant".
Wasn't there a bad call at Franklin Field  
jeff57 : 9/27/2015 2:00 pm : link
which also cost them?
That team got off to 0-3 start  
aquidneck : 9/27/2015 3:42 pm : link
Dryer, Shea, Kanicki, Lurtsema, Hazeltine, Files, Heck, Eaton, Williams, Mahar and Lockhart. At least that's how I remember it. It's possible I mixed up a 72 guy with a 70 guy somewhere, I guess.

On offense it was McNeil, Herrmann, Tucker, Buzin, Young, spacing on both Gs at the moment. Larson, Tarkenton, Johnson, and Fredrickson.

Fredrickson was my first favorite Giant when I was a kid. I was old enough to remember his rookie season (pretty good on a surprising 7-7 team), but not old enough to realize where he was drafted, and lament the fact that we hadn't chosen Sayers.

Fredrickson caught about 50 balls as a FB that year. And they weren't all in the flat. Even with bad knees the guy got downfield in the pass patterns.
The move from Century to  
ben apuna's fanbase : 9/27/2015 4:21 pm : link
Capital division confused the hell out of me as a kid. Travel shmavel, I missed Cle, Pit and StL. Damn you NO. Great season though.
I thought Jim Files quit to play the piano  
JerseyCityJoe : 9/27/2015 4:55 pm : link
or am I thinking of someone else?
Ministry I believe  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 5:05 pm : link
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@JerseyCityJoe  
ben apuna's fanbase : 9/27/2015 5:06 pm : link
Mike Reid DL Cin?
I enjoyed the two  
RetroJint : 9/27/2015 5:26 pm : link
wins over the Cards the most because MacArthur Lane kept shooting his mouth off. Yes Files to ministry. Reid to the piano & a nice run of wriing award-winning songs.

Fran said they ran the East Coast Offense that season. They did not have the strong oline to play conventional football. They got Bogarted by the Rams in much the same way that the 2000 team was by the Ravens.

Little Joe Greene blocked the FGA against the Skins if I recall correctly. Yes, Sterling had a sports talk radio show on WMCA in the mid 70s. During the show, he used to talk seductively & suggestively in French to his female intern, live mike. Could you imagine that today?
Anyone know the story behind the Giants  
short lease : 9/27/2015 6:25 pm : link
getting rid of Tarkenton? They ended up doing him a favor but, I always wondered why they traded him back to Minnesota.
Ugh... I was at that last game...  
M.S. : 9/27/2015 6:38 pm : link

...put my binoculars on Jerry Shay and his face was beat red. I knew it was all over for him.

And the Giants.

Definitely robbed on TD earlier in season that cost us a title.
RE: Anyone know the story behind the Giants  
Big Blue '56 : 9/27/2015 7:24 pm : link
In comment 12511361 short lease said:
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getting rid of Tarkenton? They ended up doing him a favor but, I always wondered why they traded him back to Minnesota.


My understanding was that he pushed hard to get out of NY..Hated it here..
RE: Anyone know the story behind the Giants  
truebluelarry : 9/27/2015 8:19 pm : link
In comment 12511361 short lease said:
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getting rid of Tarkenton? They ended up doing him a favor but, I always wondered why they traded him back to Minnesota.


It had to do with a contract dispute between Tarkenton and Wellington during the offseason. Tarkenton assumed a sum of money he received was a bonus, but Wellington said it was a loan and when he asked for repayment Tarkenton became disgruntled.

His play fell of badly that year and Coach Alex Webster complained that Tarkenton had become a lockerroom lawyer and negative influence so they shipped him out.
Thanks Trueblue and BB'56  
short lease : 9/27/2015 11:45 pm : link
figured there was something behind it because even in the film that averagejoe linked to implied that he was playing pretty good as a giant. And, according to Wikipedia - the Giants had a 1-12-1 record in 1966. Tarkenton brought them back to respectability.
And Tarkenton in the season finale vs. the Rams.  
Victor in CT : 9/28/2015 10:50 am : link
1st of many.
*Tarkenton gagged in the season finale*  
Victor in CT : 9/28/2015 10:53 am : link
vs. the Rams
short lease...  
M.S. : 9/28/2015 5:57 pm : link
...no doubt Tarkenton helped the Giants, but I've always believed that trading for him was really a short term move that hurt the team in the long run.

Putting aside the draft choices we gave up for him, including at least one #1 overall selection that turned out to be all-world LT Ron Yary...

...the bigger issue is that Tarkenton was good enough to take an otherwise pretty bad team like the Giants and make them a .500 ball club.

That got the Giants middling draft selections, when what they really needed to do was hit bottom; clean house; and re-build through the Draft with premium selections.

Tarkenton -- inadvertently -- kept this team at "mediocre."
RE: *Tarkenton gagged in the season finale*  
jeff57 : 9/28/2015 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12512263 Victor in CT said:
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vs. the Rams


They lost 31-3. It was a lot more than him.
RE: short lease...  
jeff57 : 9/28/2015 6:13 pm : link
In comment 12513179 M.S. said:
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...no doubt Tarkenton helped the Giants, but I've always believed that trading for him was really a short term move that hurt the team in the long run.

Putting aside the draft choices we gave up for him, including at least one #1 overall selection that turned out to be all-world LT Ron Yary...

...the bigger issue is that Tarkenton was good enough to take an otherwise pretty bad team like the Giants and make them a .500 ball club.

That got the Giants middling draft selections, when what they really needed to do was hit bottom; clean house; and re-build through the Draft with premium selections.

Tarkenton -- inadvertently -- kept this team at "mediocre."


On the mark.
Awesome watch  
lawguy9801 : 9/28/2015 10:24 pm : link
This was 6 years before I was born....what happened in following years that they couldn't keep it together?
It was mostly Tarkenton  
jeff57 : 9/29/2015 5:47 am : link
Although they had a decent year in '72, they drafted poorly with the picks they got for Tarkenton, and traded away a number 1 pick for Craig Morton that turned out to be the #2 pick in the draft that Dallas used to select Hall of Famer Randy White.
RE: Awesome watch  
aquidneck : 9/29/2015 6:05 am : link
In comment 12513555 lawguy9801 said:
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This was 6 years before I was born....what happened in following years that they couldn't keep it together?


Ron Johnson was injured and out in '71. Our rookie 1st rdc was Rocky Thompson. The team finished 4-10, in last place and Tarkenton was gone.
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