No James Jones thread?

a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass on any rocks. Guys I normally don't post like this but come on what's done is done. For every bad move there are countless others to be thankful for. OBJ falling in our laps,
look at all the quarterbacks that have gone down and young players that are coming thru on defense. Are you so awesome at your job that you can judge others.Mistakes are made but is your glass half empty or half full? Big waste of time and counterproductive.

Giants have Welker and Nicks in today

In comment 12514459 DCOrange said:

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Giants have Welker and Nicks in today

Well if you read this whole thread, you would've found out that no they really didn't afterall.

In comment 12513688 madhatter9382 said:

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this one was bad... every giant fan knew it was a mistake right away, i just dont understand and i guess i/we never will. Why did they cut him?! lol

Do any of you even read? James Jones was not cut, perse, he basically asked for his release because he knew what the Giants already had in OBJ, Randle & Cruz... you all can stop it now with the James Jones nonsense. Jones wanted to be a bigger part of the offense, a role for him, not taking back seat to the other 3 guys. Get over it.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/09/james_jones_tells_the_mmqb_he_basically_asked_the.html

NYG determined they wanted to keep the 24 year old draft pick Randle over a veteran from another team, and said veteran asked for his release so he could see the field more in GB.

NYG took a calculated risk that teams take every year, and it failed in this instance in the short term, at least. It's in the past with no ability to change it, energy is better spent on the Buffalo Bills.

I doubt Jones desire to play in Green Bay had much of an impact on the decision to release him. Coughlin and Reese care about winning, period. They went with youth for the 4th WR. Regardless, it's ancient history.

is that its too bad we couldn't have known that Cruz wasn't going to be ready and held on to Jones for another week or 2, right now we have OBJ and Randall and another mystery man...

In comment 12513853 TyFromQueens said:

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In comment 12513843 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 12513816 Eric from BBI said: the team let Jones go because he asked to be released Quote: Who cares if he wanted to be here or not? If had played for Parker - like he should have - we might be 2-1 or 3-0. Would suck if we finish one game out of the NFC East title. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but people don't want to hear the slot argument, but it's real. GB had Jordy Nelson go down, he's an outside WR, James Jones is playing that position, Randall Cobb is their slot WR. On the Giants it would have meant move Beckham inside to the slot, or play Jones there (or makes Jones the 4th WR and play Parker there) so rewriting history to say the Giants would have any different record is complete speculation. I'm not saying they should have let Jones go, it was a bad decision but I understand why they did it and comparing GB to the NYG isn't a fair comparison, the personnel is just different making Jones fit in seamlessly. I think the Giants expected Cruz back sooner when they made the cuts. in which case as I've and other have maintained all along it would have been play Randle or Jones. and that's exactly how Jones interpreted the situation. it's time to move on. Just like when you asked after the Dallas loss to Atlanta how do we feel now and I said it makes the first two losses sting a little, I was chastised on here and everyone unanimously attacked me ans said you can't live in the past - we need to move forward, we can't here either. Every James Jones catch, TD or 100 yard game is no reason to rehash the same tired conversations. The Giants made a mistake, but I at least understand their thinking when they did it. Indeed.now granted..when we signed JJ,I I editable thought Parker was on his way out from then. One major point you made that I want to reiterate on his It's quite obvious The Giants thought Cruz would be back sooner. I bet JJ did as well,which is why he knew he would be the 4th WR at best. With the opportunity to make a difference on GB and possibly get one more contract (remember he's 31) he also asked for his release (The way it was presented to us,it was a mutual decision) Now maybe I'm wrong (I was out the country when the rosters were set) and Maybe Giants brass already knew Cruz was not going to play week one. If that's the case,it changes my whole outlook on the situation. Regardless....we have to move on.

because I just noticed that James Jones is 14th in the NFL in receiving yards and actually has slightly more yardage than Beckham.

*ducks!*

but he'd only be the 4th WR if we kept him...no BFD man

...signed BBI mouthbreathers.

they dropped the ball by picking him over Parker but we have no idea what went on behind closed doors. Reports say he wanted a legit fulltime role. At that time Cruz was almost back and Randle was the #2. If he had angst about that, then releasing him was a good decision.

He's now playing with the best QB in football on a team hurting badly at WR. Good for him.

Even your attempts to justify it ring hollow. Cruz hasn't seen a football field for over a year. He was expected back? Stupid. Randle was nursing tendonitis which had lingered far beyond expectations and had been totally unproductive up until that point. He may have asked for his release? Too fucking bad. Too boot if we do turn this season around we might face the guy as a key contributor to green bay's offense down the line.

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In comment 12528250 Torrag said:

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Even your attempts to justify it ring hollow. Cruz hasn't seen a football field for over a year. He was expected back? Stupid. Randle was nursing tendonitis which had lingered far beyond expectations and had been totally unproductive up until that point. He may have asked for his release? Too fucking bad. Too boot if we do turn this season around we might face the guy as a key contributor to green bay's offense down the line.

Not going to argue with you. If you don't think Coughlin doesn't want to waste a roster spot on a guy that kinda wants to be somewhere else then you haven't been paying attention. He wasn't going to play over randle and he knew it. Jordy getting hurt opened the door back up.

Im not excusing the decision, but I understand it. Totally fine if you disagree.

It doesn't matter if he wanted to be here or not. That isn't his decision. He would have a significant role on this team right now and we'd be better for it. We could easily have at least one more win if he was.

and I don't think anyone who advocates for him is wrong. My first post even states that it was probably a mistake. I just understand the decision. Someone who's mentally half way out the door likely isn't wanted by a guy like TC.

...that's what your position on James Jones boils down to? Ok you stick with that.

The more likely scenario is they misevaluated everyone involved from Cruz' rehab, Randle's tendonitis and general production, to Parker's viability as an NFL 3rd WR and the current depth chart is what they are left to operate with.