it would be a nice signing for the Gmen. He doesn't have to be great, just make 2 to 3 clutch catches each week and provide some leadership and veteran stability to the group.
Welker is on HGH and live in a whole house hyperbolic chamber
Not a snarky question, but exactly what has he been right about?
I haven't paid much attention.
I forget a few things in the past he was correct on but yesterday his post was implying that the decision to sign Welker was approved pending Cruz' condition.
I remember cvicszasz posting information several times that proved to be true. Hopefully no one here will needlessly attack him like they have in the past which discourages others with inside information from sharing it with us.
he will be ready...the guy has been in the league FOREVER...played in a ton of different systems, it will take him time to get down the verbage, but i wouldnt be surprised if he does get signed that he is able to line up and play, maybe not be a huge contributor, but honestly a couple catches would be some relief off other targets on offense.
In an hour or 2 that they have signed him.
As everyone has pointed out, we need him to be a solid contributor, not a superstar, just a reliable guy to find the hole in the zone and sit there and catch the ball.
Of course they're complementary of a fine veteran guy, but if they were really that charged up about his workout, wouldn't they have signed him last night after seeing how bad the Cruz experiment went?
A few years ago when they signed Stokely he made an impact right away
and he was not even close to the player Welker was for his career. Obviously he also got hurt right away, but as others suggested they just need a solid contributor. I expect that Welker's savy would click very quickly with Eli.
I probably shouldn't be because he's at the end and he doesn't know anything about the system, but I think it would be cool to see Welker on the Giants.
Of course, I felt the same thing about Herman Moore.
It almost doesn't matter if he knows the entire playbook
its not even a question he could easily contribute. the main difference among offenses is verbage...it will take some time for him to grasp everything but i am sure he can work out of the slot right away...
I probably shouldn't be because he's at the end and he doesn't know anything about the system, but I think it would be cool to see Welker on the Giants.
Of course, I felt the same thing about Herman Moore.
Used love Fassel explaining that Herman couldn't play in games because he was sore after practice.
I think he'd be ready to go on a limited basis 2 games from now if he signed today.
Unless he had been given the playbook on a precautionary measure just in case his services were needed (and I highly, highly doubt that as it would kill us if he signed elsewhere in the conference), I can't imagine he could be ready by Sunday in any capacity.
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Eric already posted it.
Quote:
regarding Welker
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11:38 am : link : reply
well... you guys love high energy white guys...
cvicszasz : 9/29/2015 6:33 pm
Welker'a phone will be ringing soon...
cvicszasz : 9/30/2015 3:41 pm
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
He made two comments and they were both posted on this thread again by Eric.
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Yesterday he said that Welker would be getting a call soon.
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Mike, FWIW:
Quote:
Welker'a phone will be ringing soon...
cvicszasz : 9/30/2015 3:41 pm
Today is last practice this week?! Friday is their Spa day and Sat morn is a glorified walk through. How would he even practice this week? Next week would be s different story and could possibly help in certain packages.
I'm for it. Not expected to be a big time target, but one who can come in on third down or step up in relief. It can't be just Beckham with a little dose of Randle.
notwithstanding his concussion situation, is that I don't think he is a good fit with Eli.
Welker is a short, shifty receiver who thrives at catching the ball in stride and then gaining YAC across the middle of the field. He is not accustomed to catching balls over his shoulder pad level (This is the reason why that back shoulder throw in the Super Bowl was on Brady and not Welker. The Boston Globe analyzed every throw to Welker and he virtually never had jump balls, high throws, or back should throws targeted to him).
Eli's one throwing flaw is that he tends to throw a high ball and so I think this makes him a bad fit with Welker. Furthermore, in balls over the middle, whether an accuracy issue or a tactical decision, Eli tends to throw into the body of receivers to maximize possession as opposed to hitting guys in stride to maximize yardage.
who find it almost comical to think that when (this is almost a given) we make it to the Super Bowl to play against the undefeated Patriots again, we may have Wes Welker making clutch catches to beat them again?
who find it almost comical to think that when (this is almost a given) we make it to the Super Bowl to play against the undefeated Patriots again, we may have Wes Welker making clutch catches to beat them again?
who find it almost comical to think that when (this is almost a given) we make it to the Super Bowl to play against the undefeated Patriots again, we may have Wes Welker making clutch catches to beat them again?
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
to be the coach that put him on the field to watch him suffer another concussion that left him with a long term disability.
To be honest, I'd hate to watch him suffer that injury. Although I think he'd help the O, a part of me just wants him to hang them up. First time he gets crushed across the middle we're going to be holding our breath.
Lol, totally jealous. Has nothing to do with wanting validation that my favorite football team might sign a proven veteran.
Wouldn't Dottino saying so on the fan already have done that?
So it's unacceptable to ask the administrator of the site who specifically cited a poster as having an inside scoop (one he also specifically said is more credible than Dottino's) to point out where the poster shared his info?
Well I haven't said this yet because it's been oversaid
It would be nice if the Patriots went undefeated all the way to the SB. They face us and lose. Winning touchdown scored by .... yep Wes Welker. That's right, he catches this one.
Welker is a mistake. It's tantamount to putting the team above his health. Just because he is dumb enough to try and continue playing, doesn't mean teams have to endorse his stupidity by signing him. He is one hit away from not being able to function mentally in a few years. And if that does happen, then he'll have to go on IR, and we'll have to sign someone else.
Lol, totally jealous. Has nothing to do with wanting validation that my favorite football team might sign a proven veteran.
Wouldn't Dottino saying so on the fan already have done that?
So it's unacceptable to ask the administrator of the site who specifically cited a poster as having an inside scoop (one he also specifically said is more credible than Dottino's) to point out where the poster shared his info?
He's come up quite often. I remember many of his posts. You can also do a search for his name and see if it comes up.
Welker is a mistake. It's tantamount to putting the team above his health. Just because he is dumb enough to try and continue playing, doesn't mean teams have to endorse his stupidity by signing him. He is one hit away from not being able to function mentally in a few years. And if that does happen, then he'll have to go on IR, and we'll have to sign someone else.
Acid, you have a good heart for saying this, but Wes is a big boy. The Giants aren't endorsing stupidity by signing him.
Welker is a mistake. It's tantamount to putting the team above his health. Just because he is dumb enough to try and continue playing, doesn't mean teams have to endorse his stupidity by signing him. He is one hit away from not being able to function mentally in a few years. And if that does happen, then he'll have to go on IR, and we'll have to sign someone else.
This, I guess is the main reason why he hasn't latched onto another team. Guess teams are more concerned about his welfare rather that reaping the benefits of his play..(which i think he still has some at his age). I commend those teams, if that was/is the case of reason, in doing so.
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
See Erics 11:38 post. This guy also mentions that Welkers phone will be ringing soon. Yesterday. I'm sure you'll just claim he's throwing darts, but he's obviously been right on other matters, so what's wrong with giving him the benefit of doubt?
I believe he even threw out some hints in draft as well
who cares? If it happens, it happens. I only care when it's official. I'm not taking anything away from those who like the rumor mill but it doesn't interest me.
notwithstanding his concussion situation, is that I don't think he is a good fit with Eli.
Welker is a short, shifty receiver who thrives at catching the ball in stride and then gaining YAC across the middle of the field. He is not accustomed to catching balls over his shoulder pad level (This is the reason why that back shoulder throw in the Super Bowl was on Brady and not Welker. The Boston Globe analyzed every throw to Welker and he virtually never had jump balls, high throws, or back should throws targeted to him).
Eli's one throwing flaw is that he tends to throw a high ball and so I think this makes him a bad fit with Welker. Furthermore, in balls over the middle, whether an accuracy issue or a tactical decision, Eli tends to throw into the body of receivers to maximize possession as opposed to hitting guys in stride to maximize yardage.
Then again, beggars can't be choosers.
Paul, some good analysis right there. I do, however, think that Welker could work out better for us, simply because Eli is in the second year of this "short passing" game offense, where Welker would mostly be utilized.
The longer throws would still be going to OBJ and RR......
You equate James Jones success in Green Bay to "what could have been" here with the GMEN. The only reason he is doing well is because of his QB. Rodgers is by far the best QB in the league.
He was on with Joe & Evan. Here's what i remember:
The Giants defense is going to play like the Pats. Spagnolo knows Taylor from Baltimore and like Belchick he's one of the brightest defensive minds in the NFL. The Giants are going to confuse the hell out of Taylor and make him panic like the Pats did and force 3 turnovers.
The Giants are going to control the game on offense with a short quick passing game and passes to the TE. The Giants know they can't run on the Bills and they won't try.
The Giants are going to win the game he likes the matchup.
He spoke to Gilbride Sr and complained about the lack of deep passing but he agreed with Gilbride Sr that the Giants don't have a good enough OL to run deep routes.
Dittino is a very entertaining listen.
RE: Welker is on HGH and live in a whole house hyperbolic chamber
right away and gotten him a package of plays he could contribute with, even before Cruz had his official set back.
They have dreadful TEs and only one WR with any elusiveness or wiggle right now. Unless Vereen is going to be targeted 20 times, they just don't have the horses to play the game that style and do it effectively.
He was on with Joe & Evan. Here's what i remember:
The Giants defense is going to play like the Pats. Spagnolo knows Taylor from Baltimore and like Belchick he's one of the brightest defensive minds in the NFL. The Giants are going to confuse the hell out of Taylor and make him panic like the Pats did and force 3 turnovers.
The Giants are going to control the game on offense with a short quick passing game and passes to the TE. The Giants know they can't run on the Bills and they won't try.
The Giants are going to win the game he likes the matchup.
He spoke to Gilbride Sr and complained about the lack of deep passing but he agreed with Gilbride Sr that the Giants don't have a good enough OL to run deep routes.
Dittino is a very entertaining listen.
Quote:
The Giants are going to control the game on offense with a short quick passing game and passes to the TE. The Giants know they can't run on the Bills and they won't try.
This presumes we have a TE. I have yet to see any evidence of that.
...and Welker is a grown man and can make his own decisions.
Here is the rub. At what point should the organization decide we don't want to be a part of this player potentially harming his ability to function mentally after football. Do they have no responsibility to consider the mounting evidence of the effects of repeated head trauma in the sport? Are 3 diagnosed concussions in a year enough? 4? 5? 10?
How do you look yourself in the mirror as a Giants personnel guy if a decade from now Welker finds himself in a situation similar to Junior Seau? Protecting the long term quality of life for NFL players to the best of their ability should be priority number one. Not wins and losses.
Why doesn't he have a job. Dittino said he's been blackballed because of the sensitivity around head injuries. There was no follow up about whether the blackball has been lifted. Like I said Dittino is radio gold.
Keep all the players safe and not risk any of their future good health to win games but I'm sure the organization knows this and will do their due diligence. I for one would love to have Welker in the slot if they say he's good to go then I trust he's good to go. So as a fan if he joins the team I for one will root like hell for him and also pray the same way for his health as we should all our players or anyone playing this game for that matter. Cause at the end of the day(To borrow a quote from Antrel) it's just a game and as much as we want our team to win their are more important things in life
He's never going to be good to go. We know enough about head injuries to know he already sustained way past a safe level. If he comes back it's only a matter of when the next one occurs and it won't take any kind of a major direct hit.
It seems unlikely that Welker would be ready immediately after signing
Seems to me to be effective, Welker and Eli would have to be reading the coverage the same way and reacting accordingly. Can Welker do this after one day's practice? I kinda doubt it.
RE: It seems unlikely that Welker would be ready immediately after signing
Seems to me to be effective, Welker and Eli would have to be reading the coverage the same way and reacting accordingly. Can Welker do this after one day's practice? I kinda doubt it.
That may not be true anymore. To hear the players talk about it since last season, the option routes that used to be a big part of the offense with Gilbride are very few in number if not gone completely.
RE: RE: It seems unlikely that Welker would be ready immediately after signing
Seems to me to be effective, Welker and Eli would have to be reading the coverage the same way and reacting accordingly. Can Welker do this after one day's practice? I kinda doubt it.
That may not be true anymore. To hear the players talk about it since last season, the option routes that used to be a big part of the offense with Gilbride are very few in number if not gone completely.
There may not be as many, Ton, or be as complicated, but there's gotta be some I would think. And I do recall that some players complained about Gilbride's complicated reads.
...and Welker is a grown man and can make his own decisions.
Here is the rub. At what point should the organization decide we don't want to be a part of this player potentially harming his ability to function mentally after football. Do they have no responsibility to consider the mounting evidence of the effects of repeated head trauma in the sport? Are 3 diagnosed concussions in a year enough? 4? 5? 10?
How do you look yourself in the mirror as a Giants personnel guy if a decade from now Welker finds himself in a situation similar to Junior Seau? Protecting the long term quality of life for NFL players to the best of their ability should be priority number one. Not wins and losses.
I think they can be trusted to make the decision. As much as the rumor is that they push guys back on the field, the Giants did the right thing with Wilson due to the congenital spinal stenosis and let him go. If Welker is an eggshell, they won't sign him.
Wouldnt be shocked if he is already on his way to the facility...
Even if Cruz is due back in a couple of weeks, Giants can not feel confident in Cruz.
Not a snarky question, but exactly what has he been right about?
I haven't paid much attention.
Eric I missed what he said could you repeat the info he shared with us regarding Welker?
I'm all for this move and I'd try to keep him for situations even with a healthy Cruz.
Not a snarky question, but exactly what has he been right about?
I haven't paid much attention.
I forget a few things in the past he was correct on but yesterday his post was implying that the decision to sign Welker was approved pending Cruz' condition.
cvicszasz : 9/29/2015 6:33 pm
Welker'a phone will be ringing soon...
cvicszasz : 9/30/2015 3:41 pm
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
No.
It is highly unlikely but he could play in a few packages. I believe Stokley played days after being signed in 2011.
I don't see why not. He's a vet, who knows how to get open on 3rd down. That's all the Giants would probably use him for, for right now anyway.
As everyone has pointed out, we need him to be a solid contributor, not a superstar, just a reliable guy to find the hole in the zone and sit there and catch the ball.
Of course, I felt the same thing about Herman Moore.
Stokely's Package
Of course, I felt the same thing about Herman Moore.
Used love Fassel explaining that Herman couldn't play in games because he was sore after practice.
If they sign Welker, don't send him over the middle...
If they sign Welker, don't send him over the middle...
I don't like that he asked out of New England because it was to tough for him and he didn't find it fun. That's kind of a red flag IMO.
Quote:
on the Reggie Wayne band wagon?
If they sign Welker, don't send him over the middle...
I don't like that he asked out of New England because it was to tough for him and he didn't find it fun. That's kind of a red flag IMO.
That post was about Wayne not Welker
:-)
Unless he had been given the playbook on a precautionary measure just in case his services were needed (and I highly, highly doubt that as it would kill us if he signed elsewhere in the conference), I can't imagine he could be ready by Sunday in any capacity.
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Eric already posted it.
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11:38 am : link : reply
well... you guys love high energy white guys...
cvicszasz : 9/29/2015 6:33 pm
Welker'a phone will be ringing soon...
cvicszasz : 9/30/2015 3:41 pm
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
He made two comments and they were both posted on this thread again by Eric.
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Yesterday he said that Welker would be getting a call soon.
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Mike, FWIW:
Welker'a phone will be ringing soon...
cvicszasz : 9/30/2015 3:41 pm
Today is last practice this week?! Friday is their Spa day and Sat morn is a glorified walk through. How would he even practice this week? Next week would be s different story and could possibly help in certain packages.
Welker is a short, shifty receiver who thrives at catching the ball in stride and then gaining YAC across the middle of the field. He is not accustomed to catching balls over his shoulder pad level (This is the reason why that back shoulder throw in the Super Bowl was on Brady and not Welker. The Boston Globe analyzed every throw to Welker and he virtually never had jump balls, high throws, or back should throws targeted to him).
Eli's one throwing flaw is that he tends to throw a high ball and so I think this makes him a bad fit with Welker. Furthermore, in balls over the middle, whether an accuracy issue or a tactical decision, Eli tends to throw into the body of receivers to maximize possession as opposed to hitting guys in stride to maximize yardage.
Then again, beggars can't be choosers.
Jerry, make it so!
Jerry, make it so!
BOOM, BITCHES!!!
Jerry, make it so!
Brady and Bills heads would explode
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
Why so interested? Are you jealous?
Wouldn't Dottino saying so on the fan already have done that?
To be honest, I'd hate to watch him suffer that injury. Although I think he'd help the O, a part of me just wants him to hang them up. First time he gets crushed across the middle we're going to be holding our breath.
Quote:
Lol, totally jealous. Has nothing to do with wanting validation that my favorite football team might sign a proven veteran.
Wouldn't Dottino saying so on the fan already have done that?
So it's unacceptable to ask the administrator of the site who specifically cited a poster as having an inside scoop (one he also specifically said is more credible than Dottino's) to point out where the poster shared his info?
It would be nice if the Patriots went undefeated all the way to the SB. They face us and lose. Winning touchdown scored by .... yep Wes Welker. That's right, he catches this one.
Oh come on. Gotta admit, that would be awesome!
Quote:
In comment 12518602 Mike in Long Beach said:
Quote:
Lol, totally jealous. Has nothing to do with wanting validation that my favorite football team might sign a proven veteran.
Wouldn't Dottino saying so on the fan already have done that?
So it's unacceptable to ask the administrator of the site who specifically cited a poster as having an inside scoop (one he also specifically said is more credible than Dottino's) to point out where the poster shared his info?
He's come up quite often. I remember many of his posts. You can also do a search for his name and see if it comes up.
Acid, you have a good heart for saying this, but Wes is a big boy. The Giants aren't endorsing stupidity by signing him.
This, I guess is the main reason why he hasn't latched onto another team. Guess teams are more concerned about his welfare rather that reaping the benefits of his play..(which i think he still has some at his age). I commend those teams, if that was/is the case of reason, in doing so.
mike..copy and paste his user name into search 'users' then click on posts he commented on, and you'll see his quotes.
Doesn't matter to me, lol. I was asked if I asked where the post was located was because I was jealous.
Quote:
is better informed than Dottino...
He's posted for the last couple of years about stuff like surprise starters.
Eric I just did a search... cvicszasz made one comment about high-energy white guys that really implied nothing. Other than that, he hasn't touched this issue as far as I can see.
What are you referencing where he was "right again."
See Erics 11:38 post. This guy also mentions that Welkers phone will be ringing soon. Yesterday. I'm sure you'll just claim he's throwing darts, but he's obviously been right on other matters, so what's wrong with giving him the benefit of doubt?
Mike in Long Beach : 1/7/2015 3:33 pm : link
He didn't... there was no... oh whatever.
All hail cvicszaz.
Remember him now?
Welker is a short, shifty receiver who thrives at catching the ball in stride and then gaining YAC across the middle of the field. He is not accustomed to catching balls over his shoulder pad level (This is the reason why that back shoulder throw in the Super Bowl was on Brady and not Welker. The Boston Globe analyzed every throw to Welker and he virtually never had jump balls, high throws, or back should throws targeted to him).
Eli's one throwing flaw is that he tends to throw a high ball and so I think this makes him a bad fit with Welker. Furthermore, in balls over the middle, whether an accuracy issue or a tactical decision, Eli tends to throw into the body of receivers to maximize possession as opposed to hitting guys in stride to maximize yardage.
Then again, beggars can't be choosers.
Paul, some good analysis right there. I do, however, think that Welker could work out better for us, simply because Eli is in the second year of this "short passing" game offense, where Welker would mostly be utilized.
The longer throws would still be going to OBJ and RR......
Quote:
This has to be a joke, lol
Mike in Long Beach : 1/7/2015 3:33 pm : link
He didn't... there was no... oh whatever.
All hail cvicszaz.
Remember him now?
haha
Not all players have had 3 documented concussions in the last 9 months.
Quote:
That's ridiculous. The same could apply to all players. It's a violent sport that players choose to play.
Not all players have had 3 documented concussions in the last 9 months.
I'd love Welker in his prime or even a little after, and ultimately, it's his choice to play or not, but I'd hate for him to be our Chebret.
Quote:
This has to be a joke, lol
Mike in Long Beach : 1/7/2015 3:33 pm : link
He didn't... there was no... oh whatever.
All hail cvicszaz.
Remember him now?
Who said I didn't remember him? I said where is the post where he said Welker is likely coming in.
Quote:
I did a search for fun and found this comment on a thread about cvicszaz and Fewell's firing. Took me 30 seconds
Quote:
This has to be a joke, lol
Mike in Long Beach : 1/7/2015 3:33 pm : link
He didn't... there was no... oh whatever.
All hail cvicszaz.
Remember him now?
Who said I didn't remember him? I said where is the post where he said Welker is likely coming in.
Sorry. I thought you were asking where he "got it right" before. It's easy to find.
You equate James Jones success in Green Bay to "what could have been" here with the GMEN. The only reason he is doing well is because of his QB. Rodgers is by far the best QB in the league.
The Giants defense is going to play like the Pats. Spagnolo knows Taylor from Baltimore and like Belchick he's one of the brightest defensive minds in the NFL. The Giants are going to confuse the hell out of Taylor and make him panic like the Pats did and force 3 turnovers.
The Giants are going to control the game on offense with a short quick passing game and passes to the TE. The Giants know they can't run on the Bills and they won't try.
The Giants are going to win the game he likes the matchup.
He spoke to Gilbride Sr and complained about the lack of deep passing but he agreed with Gilbride Sr that the Giants don't have a good enough OL to run deep routes.
Dittino is a very entertaining listen.
Point being?
What I expect is plenty of andre williams plows into the line for no gains Because We Have To Have Balance.
They have dreadful TEs and only one WR with any elusiveness or wiggle right now. Unless Vereen is going to be targeted 20 times, they just don't have the horses to play the game that style and do it effectively.
The Giants defense is going to play like the Pats. Spagnolo knows Taylor from Baltimore and like Belchick he's one of the brightest defensive minds in the NFL. The Giants are going to confuse the hell out of Taylor and make him panic like the Pats did and force 3 turnovers.
The Giants are going to control the game on offense with a short quick passing game and passes to the TE. The Giants know they can't run on the Bills and they won't try.
The Giants are going to win the game he likes the matchup.
He spoke to Gilbride Sr and complained about the lack of deep passing but he agreed with Gilbride Sr that the Giants don't have a good enough OL to run deep routes.
Dittino is a very entertaining listen.
This presumes we have a TE. I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Not ready for a bib yet..close, but not quite..
Here is the rub. At what point should the organization decide we don't want to be a part of this player potentially harming his ability to function mentally after football. Do they have no responsibility to consider the mounting evidence of the effects of repeated head trauma in the sport? Are 3 diagnosed concussions in a year enough? 4? 5? 10?
How do you look yourself in the mirror as a Giants personnel guy if a decade from now Welker finds himself in a situation similar to Junior Seau? Protecting the long term quality of life for NFL players to the best of their ability should be priority number one. Not wins and losses.
That may not be true anymore. To hear the players talk about it since last season, the option routes that used to be a big part of the offense with Gilbride are very few in number if not gone completely.
Quote:
Seems to me to be effective, Welker and Eli would have to be reading the coverage the same way and reacting accordingly. Can Welker do this after one day's practice? I kinda doubt it.
That may not be true anymore. To hear the players talk about it since last season, the option routes that used to be a big part of the offense with Gilbride are very few in number if not gone completely.
There may not be as many, Ton, or be as complicated, but there's gotta be some I would think. And I do recall that some players complained about Gilbride's complicated reads.
Here is the rub. At what point should the organization decide we don't want to be a part of this player potentially harming his ability to function mentally after football. Do they have no responsibility to consider the mounting evidence of the effects of repeated head trauma in the sport? Are 3 diagnosed concussions in a year enough? 4? 5? 10?
How do you look yourself in the mirror as a Giants personnel guy if a decade from now Welker finds himself in a situation similar to Junior Seau? Protecting the long term quality of life for NFL players to the best of their ability should be priority number one. Not wins and losses.
I think they can be trusted to make the decision. As much as the rumor is that they push guys back on the field, the Giants did the right thing with Wilson due to the congenital spinal stenosis and let him go. If Welker is an eggshell, they won't sign him.