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NFT: Nats at Mets Doubleheader

ZGiants98 : 10/3/2015 1:47 pm
Mets

Juan Lagares, CF

David Wright, 3B

Daniel Murphy, 2B

Yoenis Cespedes, LF

Michael Cuddyer, RF

Lucas Duda, 1B

Travis d'Arnaud, C

Ruben Tejada, SS

Noah Syndergaard, RHP

Nationals

Anthony Rendon, 2B

Yunel Escobar, 3B

Bryce Harper, CF,

Jayson Werth, LF

Clint Robinson, 1B

Ian Desmond, SS

Matt den Dekker, RF

Jose Lobaton, C

Gio Gonzalez, LHP

Here Come the Nats!!
Syndergard looking incredible  
ZGiants98 : 10/3/2015 1:51 pm : link
early.
Really nice work  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 1:52 pm : link
by Thor in the third -- TDA muffed that strike 3 with runner on 2nd, no out to make it 1st and 3rd no outs. Thor just worked Rendon for the 2nd out with a pretty heater outside black. Got Escobar then to fly out lazily -- really nice stuff.
BTW  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 1:54 pm : link
Great to see Cespedes back in there. I must have missed him being good to go, because I was pleasantly surprised to see him in there. He was scuffling a bit before the hand issue (since getting drilled in the side by the Marlins) so I'd love to see him hit a ball or two hard today or tomorrow.
Dwright  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 1:58 pm : link
robbed by the howling wind taking that ball foul.

But good AB. Let's cash some chips, fellas!
beautiful  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 2:01 pm : link
play by den dekker

cmon cespedes. Get hot.
need to take  
JayBinQueens : 10/3/2015 2:03 pm : link
advantage when the P has control issues
What are sun outages  
JayBinQueens : 10/3/2015 2:06 pm : link
and why are they possibly going to affect the broadcast?
TD  
JayBinQueens : 10/3/2015 2:16 pm : link
looks in pain. Even in the on deck circle he's smarting
Mets offense has not scored in 22 innings  
Vanzetti : 10/3/2015 2:35 pm : link
All that "rest" seems to have had the opposite effect of what was intended.

Gotta get it going.
Noah  
stillpoe : 10/3/2015 2:37 pm : link
has been dominating the past 2 starts. More importantly, he seems to have better command of his breaking ball, which pretty much makes him unhittable.
Syndegaard  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 2:37 pm : link
really looking sharp.
Thor drills Harper in the knee  
jpkmets : 10/3/2015 2:43 pm : link
Hope there isn't an answer from the Nats. Rather not lose anyone else to this sort of thing.
Thor peaking at the  
pjcas18 : 10/3/2015 2:48 pm : link
right time.

Can we score a fucking run please?  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 2:49 pm : link
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This strike zone is fucking horrendous  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 2:54 pm : link
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That's disappointing  
schabadoo : 10/3/2015 2:57 pm : link
Makes sense to avoid the double play, just didn't work out.
Great!!!  
timintey : 10/3/2015 2:58 pm : link
ugggghhhh
We need to get some damn runs!!!!  
timintey : 10/3/2015 2:59 pm : link
JFC!!!!
Harvey  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 3:07 pm : link

I wouldn't even pitch Harvey tonight. The Pads are running out a AAA lineup. And have no interest in beating the Dodgers. They blew home field when they were swept by the shitty Phils
Yes!!!  
timintey : 10/3/2015 3:17 pm : link
Juan
Nice lagares  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 3:18 pm : link
Tie game 1-1
Williams sticking with the lefty there  
schabadoo : 10/3/2015 3:20 pm : link
So strange.
RE: Harvey  
Mike in NY : 10/3/2015 3:22 pm : link
In comment 12521783 Rflairr said:
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I wouldn't even pitch Harvey tonight. The Pads are running out a AAA lineup. And have no interest in beating the Dodgers. They blew home field when they were swept by the shitty Phils


If Harvey feels more comfortable going a few innings tonight versus going two weeks between starts you go with him.
RE: Williams sticking with the lefty there  
Mike in NY : 10/3/2015 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12521796 schabadoo said:
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So strange.


With Conforto, Nieuwenhuis and Johnson on the bench it was a choice of Grace vs. Lagares or Martin vs. one of those 3
Harvey has indicated his desire to pitch on a regular schedule  
Torrag : 10/3/2015 3:25 pm : link
He'll be throwing sides if he doesn't get his work tonight. Give him his 5 innings and call it a night.
RE: Williams sticking with the lefty there  
Vanzetti : 10/3/2015 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12521796 schabadoo said:
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So strange.


If he brings in a righty, Conforto is going to pinch hit. You much rather have Lagares up than Conforto.
Sure, challenge Harper  
timintey : 10/3/2015 3:35 pm : link
why not?
Murph fucks up a routine double play ball to prolong the inning  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 3:35 pm : link
and harper on cue hits a 2 run bomb
Defense costs the Mets  
Mike in NY : 10/3/2015 3:35 pm : link
Also they should have had Niese warming up
Defense. Yes. But that was a terrible pitch by Reed  
Vanzetti : 10/3/2015 3:41 pm : link
Hanging slider. Knee high. Just where Harper likes it.

Teammates have to pick each other up.

That double play fuck up  
ZGiants98 : 10/3/2015 3:42 pm : link
was as much on Tejada's shitty throw as it was on Murphy's bobble.
Ah well  
ZGiants98 : 10/3/2015 3:43 pm : link
I haven't felt we were getting home field for days now. Not overly worried about it. We may even play looser on the road to open things up.
Seems like a lot of our bats  
ZGiants98 : 10/3/2015 3:44 pm : link
have gone cold at the wrong time as well. Lets hope not.
i dont think it will make a huge difference  
CGiants07 : 10/3/2015 3:52 pm : link
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RE: That double play fuck up  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 3:53 pm : link
In comment 12521817 ZGiants98 said:
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was as much on Tejada's shitty throw as it was on Murphy's bobble.


Tejadas throw was rushed because of the murphy bobble.
Today isn't a fun day to play baseball  
Headhunter : 10/3/2015 3:54 pm : link
nothing much to play for( I really don't care about home field,I kind of prefer opening on the road, but that's another conversation) What I would like us 1 more win to get to 90. These games don't carry over to next Friday, the important thing is for deGrom, Harvey & Syndergaard to get their work in. Period, end of story for me
How many times have the mets struck out today?  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 3:55 pm : link
A dozen yet?
1 run on 5 hits  
timintey : 10/3/2015 3:58 pm : link
not gonna get it done... especially on the road in the playoffs. Need to get these bats to wake up!
Sorry  
seanr : 10/3/2015 4:10 pm : link
But if I was Collins starting lineup for game 2. This team is way too happy making the playoffs
Bye bye homefield  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 4:22 pm : link
At least Thor pitched well...
I am most worried about our performance against  
CMicks3110 : 10/3/2015 5:33 pm : link
Left Handed pitchers. Cuddyer is such a big step down from Conforto IMO, and lefties neutralize Granderson as well. Sure, Wright hits better against Lefties, but its not discernable enough to make up for the production lost from Conforto/Granderson.
In all likelihood  
CMicks3110 : 10/3/2015 5:34 pm : link
we're only going to face one right handed starter this series, and that's greinke. If I'm the dogers, I'm starting Kershaw twice, and Alex Wood in game 3.
Dodgers activate Puig  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/3/2015 5:51 pm : link
he will bat 6th tonight. He has missed so much time I doubt he'll bring his A game to the Mets series.
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assuming no platoons except cuddyer/conforto  
CGiants07 : 10/3/2015 7:22 pm : link
against lefties i go:


granderson
Murphy
Cespedes
wright
D'Arnaud/Duda
Duda/D"Arnaud
Cuddyer
Tejeda
p
Scherzer perfect thru 4  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 8:04 pm : link
They haven't even gotten anything close to a good swing...
when the hell is this team  
timintey : 10/3/2015 8:16 pm : link
Going to start hitting again????
RE: when the hell is this team  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 8:27 pm : link
In comment 12522025 timintey said:
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Going to start hitting again????


It's a concern, especially with them basically having a week off before they play again
Kelly johnson error  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 8:30 pm : link
leads to nats first run
Being no hit through the 6th  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 8:40 pm : link
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This has 1-0 written all over it  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 8:43 pm : link
This offense blows chunks right now.

Losing 5 in a row is not the way to enter the playoffs.
And there you go  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 8:47 pm : link
Pen gives up more runs. Awesome
They aren't even trying  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 8:57 pm : link
Pathetic effort tonight.
Scherzer has fanned 12 through 7  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 8:57 pm : link
and we had at least 10 k's the first game. This is just like the K fests this team had back in may and june.
Embarrassing  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 8:59 pm : link
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Rubin points out that the Mets have scored 1 run  
Ira : 10/3/2015 9:03 pm : link
in their last 33 innings.
Do they really think they can just turn it on come Friday?  
speedywheels : 10/3/2015 9:04 pm : link
Terrible way to go into playiffs
Perhaps the off days  
pganut : 10/3/2015 9:12 pm : link
Allow this hitting stink to wear off. Get loose.
RE: Rubin points out that the Mets have scored 1 run  
CGiants07 : 10/3/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12522073 Ira said:
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in their last 33 innings.


2 of those games are with triple a lineup though
RE: Do they really think they can just turn it on come Friday?  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12522075 speedywheels said:
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Terrible way to go into playiffs


Good luck with that against Grienke and Kershaw in LA
Can they at least win tomorrow and get to 90 wins?  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 9:15 pm : link
I mean what the fuck man come on
Well at least they'll  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 9:18 pm : link
Have something else in common with the Dodgers. Both no hit twice this season
this team needs a few rounds of bp against oflaherity  
CGiants07 : 10/3/2015 9:21 pm : link
and parnell
Jesus  
Deej : 10/3/2015 9:23 pm : link
Duda just waving at them
I think they're still hung over from the party in cincy  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 9:24 pm : link
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Embarrassing  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 9:25 pm : link
I mean no one can even put the ball in play. lol
Has any team won the World Series  
Drewcon40 : 10/3/2015 9:25 pm : link
In a season they were no hit twice?
At least he doesn't match Seaver's record  
Mike in NY : 10/3/2015 9:26 pm : link
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That was extraordinary  
Deej : 10/3/2015 9:26 pm : link
It's odd that I dont really care.
RE: Well at least they'll  
Giants4246 : 10/3/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12522097 Rflairr said:
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Have something else in common with the Dodgers. Both no hit twice this season


I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that this is probably the first time ever that 2 teams about to play against each other in the playoffs have each been no hit twice during the season.
RE: Has any team won the World Series  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12522110 Drewcon40 said:
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In a season they were no hit twice?


Doubt it. Have two teams faced each other in the playoffs that were both no hit twice in a season?
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Vin R : 10/3/2015 9:28 pm : link
I know Fred is pissed  
Rflairr : 10/3/2015 9:34 pm : link
Might only get one playoff gate
to lose 5 games  
SethFromAstoria : 10/3/2015 9:45 pm : link
in a row with the kind of momentum we had, and just needing to win 2 of those 5 and we get home field....I mean it's not completely unimportant to get home games. Its just absurd to be so lax. I don't get it at all.
RE: .  
Ginny Poo : 10/3/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12522120 Vin R said:
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Mayor DiBlasio?
Dodgers win once  
spike : 10/3/2015 10:07 pm : link
And they get home field.

Disgusting. The Mets bullpen and offense blew it
Maybe playing in the shitty weather  
spike : 10/3/2015 10:09 pm : link
Got them down.
Hope the bats wake up in sunny California
the one positive  
SethFromAstoria : 10/3/2015 10:12 pm : link
that can come out of this is if they are embarrassed enough that it shocks them back to reality. Jump-starts their effort. Because truthfully they should be embarrassed as can be.
i think terry and the front office took foot off the gas after  
CGiants07 : 10/3/2015 10:14 pm : link
cespedes got hit and decided health was more important than home field
RE: i think terry and the front office took foot off the gas after  
SethFromAstoria : 10/3/2015 10:20 pm : link
In comment 12522168 CGiants07 said:
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cespedes got hit and decided health was more important than home field


Agreed and they are probably right but foot off the gas or not, the bullpen guys can still actually get outs and hitters can not half ass it. Those things have nothign to do with management.
If deGrom  
pjcas18 : 10/3/2015 10:31 pm : link
Thor and Harvey pitch like this in the playoffs the Mets are world champs. they'll hit enough, starting pitching is the positive takeaway.

those three were what the Mets needs them to be to win the WS.

stay positive....  
SethFromAstoria : 10/3/2015 10:54 pm : link
yes stay positive

100 percent agree with C Giants at 10:14  
Phil in Joisey : 10/3/2015 11:59 pm : link
The Mets spit out the bit when Cespedes got hit and that was the end of any attempt for home field advantage. Of course we now see stats that suggest home field is not that big an advantage at playoff time....but it would have been nice.
Let's hope Kershas revisits his playoff blues.
RE: the one positive  
Vanzetti : 10/4/2015 1:51 am : link
In comment 12522165 SethFromAstoria said:
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that can come out of this is if they are embarrassed enough that it shocks them back to reality. Jump-starts their effort. Because truthfully they should be embarrassed as can be.



Let's hope they get going because really I have no idea what they were doing this week with homefield on the line. How do you get swept by the Phils, who are fielding a AAA lineup?

that HBP  
spike : 10/4/2015 8:04 am : link
hit the collective balls of the Mets
Home advantage in baseball  
5BowlsSoon : 10/4/2015 8:36 am : link
Means little, so no big deal. But what can you say about one Matt Scherzer. Man, that guy is a beast.
It's not only losing HF  
speedywheels : 10/4/2015 10:54 am : link
They lost 5 games in a row to teams with NOTHING to play for. And since HF is officially gone, Collins will probably "rest" the starting lineup again today - even though they will have 4 days off after today - which will probably make it a 6 game losing streak to end the season.

What the fuck kind of way is THAT to go into the playoffs?
Sounds like JdG game 1, Thor game 2, Harvey game 3  
Eric on Li : 10/4/2015 10:56 am : link
Guessing they won't name game 4 yet because it could be JdG on short rest?

Overall hard to get a feel for how this team will look entering the playoffs. I have faith in the pitchers, but Greinke/Kershaw in 4 games is quite a neutralizer. Does our BP have an advantage? Offensively both teams have similar talent level so it will come down to who steps up at the crucial time. There isn't a single dominant hitter on either squad so it wouldn't shock me to see role guys like Murphy or Utley step up.

My biggest concern is IF defense because it's been consistently shaky all season and I don't think that's an aberration. At this stage of their careers there's not a single infielder on this team you'd grade as a net "positive" and all are prone to mistakes.

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Mark Simon ‏@msimonespn 2m2 minutes ago
Mets are at -37 Defensive Runs Saved combined from their middle infield.

That's worst in MLB by far
(Phillies are next, -26)
Get ready for some serious nail biting in the playoffs  
timintey : 10/4/2015 11:17 am : link
We're looking at a bunch of 1-0, 2-1 type games... Need the big 3 on their A games
RE: It's not only losing HF  
Vanzetti : 10/4/2015 12:05 pm : link
In comment 12522535 speedywheels said:
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They lost 5 games in a row to teams with NOTHING to play for. And since HF is officially gone, Collins will probably "rest" the starting lineup again today - even though they will have 4 days off after today - which will probably make it a 6 game losing streak to end the season.

What the fuck kind of way is THAT to go into the playoffs?



A very dumb way, it would seem.

But let's see how it plays out. If Mets kick it into gear, then Collins will be vindicated. Otherwise, he will go down as a dolt.
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