FF 10/5

I'm up by 25.68 with Prater going tonight, while he has Graham.

worth a pick up?

In comment 12526777 dep026 said:

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worth a pick up?

To inconsistent, they do not use him every week, some weeks they feature him and then other weeks he gets 5 touches...

you will go crazy because the week he is on your bench he will go off and then the week you play him he does nothing...

I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change.

2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year.

For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB.

someone else, i just don't like that offense at all outside of Gurley.

Got Calvin and Rawls vs. Russel Wilson.

Need Calvin to make a statement or Rawls to go off.

your league removed the kicker? Like or not, that's a big part of the game. It seems a little odd to remove that part of the game (IMHO)

hopefully 2-2 in my 12 team league BUT he has Rawls going tonight and i am only up 11, i have a feeling i lose but here is to hoping otherwise...

In comment 12526803 UConn4523 said:

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I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change. 2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year. For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB.

In one league we got rid of kickers and defense, I'm glad so far, it's nice not having to worry about those roster spots. My other league we still have defense but got rid of kickers. I'm betting we drop defense next year too.

In comment 12526818 BamaBlue said:

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your league removed the kicker? Like or not, that's a big part of the game. It seems a little odd to remove that part of the game (IMHO)

Yup, vote was like 9-3 in favor. Just really dumb when a guy racks up 20 points on a 5 FG day and is someone's highest scorer. Fantasy is already largely luck, and kickers just takes that to a whole new level.

drop to 2-2 this week unless Calvin puts up 3 scores.

Went against D'Vonta and Ivory. FFS.

Drafting Brandin Cooks and Davante Adams is going to end up fucking me this year. You can't get 0 from your 3rd and 4th rounder and expect to have a good year.

The Bears give up a ton of passing tds, Smith doesn't throw tds, but had almost 400 yards this week.

is if everything was 1 point and maybe 2 points for a 50+ yard FG. Since XP's are moved back they should have the same value as a 35 yard FG.

On a 3 FG day with 2 XP's you go from what would have been 11 points or more to just 5.

but then with Luck out, I said fuck no. Forgot about the early game so I didn't have a chance to switch Rishard Matthews in. So instead, I grabbed Allen Hurns and awarded him the start.

And boy did I luck out..

went right before I picked, but i'm happy now. Cooks I'm surprised at, but Adams i'm not. Always felt he was boom or bust and Rodgers just spreads it to whoever. The chemistry just isn't there.

and my team isnt anything to brag about. Just getting some really good production when I need it. I also played 4 of the worst scores each weeks so that has helped as well.

As far as defenses and kickers are concerned. They have saved me this year. I have Tucker, who is as good as they come. And I have had the Panthers defense. The combine to get me at least 25-30 points every week.

It makes up for having a shitty Lamar Miller and the Hyde of the last 3 weeks who doesnt even get the ball. If Bell can be BEll, and if Fosters comes back ok - I should be fine.

Just need to find another WR. Crabtree, Austin, and Cruz are my options.

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In comment 12526777 dep026 said:

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worth a pick up?

Do you get points for return yards?

In comment 12526803 UConn4523 said:

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I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change. 2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year. For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB.

That's really weird to me. Kickers are part of the game, and I think theres value in having a good kicker. You need to know your football to know which teams have offenses that don't score in the red zone, which teams will score TDs and give their kickers chances for extra points, know which teams are playing top defenses, and really just the ability of kickers themselves.

Yeah, it's kind of a stroke of luck and can be streaky, but isn't all of FF?

In comment 12526819 nygiants16 said:

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hopefully 2-2 in my 12 team league BUT he has Rawls going tonight and i am only up 11, i have a feeling i lose but here is to hoping otherwise...

Is it PPR? If it's PPR, you might be in trouble. In standard, you're basically hoping Rawls doesn't get a TD.

and 1 - 3 in the other.

Luck being out killed me, all week Pagano was "positive" that Luck would start.

I had to start Tyrod Taylor and it was awesome to see him struggle, and i started Carr in the other league.

Carlos Hyde is also killing me now. He looks really good when he runs the ball and seems to be maximizing his chances, but that offense is a disaster and the team is playing from behind a lot so they abandon the run.

Not sure what to do with him.

In comment 12526823 GMenLTS said:

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In comment 12526803 UConn4523 said: Quote: I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change. 2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year. For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB. In one league we got rid of kickers and defense, I'm glad so far, it's nice not having to worry about those roster spots. My other league we still have defense but got rid of kickers. I'm betting we drop defense next year too.

D/ST AND K? That's NUTS to me! That's 2/3rds of the phase of the game.

I'm actually in a league where we choose a defensive player, and I love it. I picked CJ Mosley as I knew he was a 3 down linebacker, tackle machine, and coming into his second year. He had a fumble return for a TD last week that helped me win. It adds another layer of excitement to the game.

I was against dropping D and K for awhile but I came around to the idea finally and it's been fine. I spend so much time focusing on my lineup and bench players that's it's been convenient not having to worry about shifting kickers and defenses around my roster spots.

In comment 12526901 pjcas18 said:

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and 1 - 3 in the other. Luck being out killed me, all week Pagano was "positive" that Luck would start. I had to start Tyrod Taylor and it was awesome to see him struggle, and i started Carr in the other league. Carlos Hyde is also killing me now. He looks really good when he runs the ball and seems to be maximizing his chances, but that offense is a disaster and the team is playing from behind a lot so they abandon the run. Not sure what to do with him.

Hyde is tough for me as well. I know he's a good player, but the Niners are just a mess and Kaep is playing like hot garbage.

I really regret not trading Hyde after Week 1, when I could have gotten a ton for him, but I wasn't sold on my other RB2, Latavius Murray yet (and still might not be).

Now Hyde's value is at a season low and I'd get basically nothing for him. Reggie Bush coming back also hurts Hyde's PPR value a decent amount.

Now Latavius is hurt. The Ben injury was huge for me, because it caused me to use my first overall waiver claim on Dalton instead of Karlos Williams. Turns out I could have used it on Karlos WIlliams and gotten Dalton as a FA anyway, but I went the safe route. All of the sudden, I've gone from RBs being the strength of my team to potentially having a hole at RB2.

Oh, and FF annoyance of the week.... we have no flex and must start 3 WRs. All year, I've tried to sure up my WR3.

I started Wallace and drafted Cruz, Perriman, and Harvin, hoping one would step up. Dropped Harvin before week 1. Perriman and Cruz were both supposed to come back week 4. Neither did. Picked up Rishard Matthews as a FA, and started him over Wallace. Matthews this week: 2.7 points. Wallace: 22+. SO ANNOYING.

In comment 12526896 Sonic Youth said:

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In comment 12526803 UConn4523 said: Quote: I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change. 2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year. For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB. That's really weird to me. Kickers are part of the game, and I think theres value in having a good kicker. You need to know your football to know which teams have offenses that don't score in the red zone, which teams will score TDs and give their kickers chances for extra points, know which teams are playing top defenses, and really just the ability of kickers themselves. Yeah, it's kind of a stroke of luck and can be streaky, but isn't all of FF?

I don't think it takes much insight at all to pick the kicker on the teams that get into the RZ and don't score. That's what everyone tries to do. And yes they are part of the game but for fantasy purposes why should 2 FG's be worth a TD? If I ever have kickers again their points would need to be handicapped. A position that people take in rounds 12+ shouldn't have that large of an impact on wins/losses.

because the scoring makes sense. Whats more likely, a kicker will kick 2 FG's or a team will have 6 sacks? Both are worth the same...why?

and Gurley in both my leagues.

One is a keeper league where I got Gurley late and got other players late so I'm looking forward to that league (I'm 1 - 3 there).

I'm surprised someone waived Gostkowski. kickers are fungible to an extent, but Gostkowski is the most sure thing of all of them. and he's had his bye week. Nice pick up.

are usually very fickle. I picked up the Cards last week, when they dropped 30 points. Feeling good about them against Nick Foles and co. this week. 24 points against, 0 turnovers, 1 sack.

FFS.

So due to Hocker missing that kick last night and allowing Brees to score another 8 points I am trailing going into tonight by like 4.5 points. I have Abdullah and Rawls and can start one. Who do you go with? Its a half point PPR.

I am leaning Abdullah thinking he will get at least 4 or 5 catches but Rawls seems like a solid play also. Its just with Rawls he likely needs to get the yards as I dont see him catching any passes. Any thoughts?

each scored 17.

I am starting Eric Ebron and Ameer Abdullah in Half PPR

I also have Steven Hauschka going

But he has Prater

I am down 20 points.

Can I win? I basically need Ebron and Abdullah to score 20 points combined and have my kicker beat his kicker...

In comment 12527072 mik999999 said:

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So due to Hocker missing that kick last night and allowing Brees to score another 8 points I am trailing going into tonight by like 4.5 points. I have Abdullah and Rawls and can start one. Who do you go with? Its a half point PPR. I am leaning Abdullah thinking he will get at least 4 or 5 catches but Rawls seems like a solid play also. Its just with Rawls he likely needs to get the yards as I dont see him catching any passes. Any thoughts?

I had the same call to make but I'm going Rawls. Seattle D is still very good against the run and Rawls' intro last week leaves me optimistic.

My stakes are high too, if it doesn't work out, I'm 1-3 instead of 2-2.

In comment 12527092 Mr. Nickels said:

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each scored 17. I am starting Eric Ebron and Ameer Abdullah in Half PPR I also have Steven Hauschka going But he has Prater I am down 20 points. Can I win? I basically need Ebron and Abdullah to score 20 points combined and have my kicker beat his kicker...

If this is PPR, I'd actually think you'd be favored to win. Ebron and Abdullah scoring 10 isn't really that far out of the realm of possibility in PPR. You need 5 rec for 50 yds from Ebron, Abdullah to have around 80 yards from scrimmage with a couple receptions, and if either of them score a TD, you're golden.

In comment 12526943 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 12526896 Sonic Youth said: Quote: In comment 12526803 UConn4523 said: Quote: I feel like that never happens, but got the luck for a change. 2-2 and right in the middle of the pack but I don't like my chances being an Antonio Brown owner with Ben out. Really need him and I just don't see him posting 20+ point games which I feel like he did every week last year. For those that are in league with kickers, do you ever vote to remove them? We did a few years ago and its so much better. Nothing worse than having a great week and losing because the opponents kicker had more points than your QB. That's really weird to me. Kickers are part of the game, and I think theres value in having a good kicker. You need to know your football to know which teams have offenses that don't score in the red zone, which teams will score TDs and give their kickers chances for extra points, know which teams are playing top defenses, and really just the ability of kickers themselves. Yeah, it's kind of a stroke of luck and can be streaky, but isn't all of FF? I don't think it takes much insight at all to pick the kicker on the teams that get into the RZ and don't score. That's what everyone tries to do. And yes they are part of the game but for fantasy purposes why should 2 FG's be worth a TD? If I ever have kickers again their points would need to be handicapped. A position that people take in rounds 12+ shouldn't have that large of an impact on wins/losses.

I think it goes further than just the red zone thing, although that's a big component. People act like kickers are an afterthought, but they shouldn't be.

If I draft Justin Tucker, I do it because I know the Ravens will not hesitate to let him kick it 50+ yards. Same with Gotkowski, to an extent.

My Gotkowski pickup could be the difference between a win and a loss later in the season. It's definitely a crapshoot to an extent, but FGs matter and should be accounted for (IMO of course).

In comment 12527141 Sonic Youth said:

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In comment 12527092 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: each scored 17. I am starting Eric Ebron and Ameer Abdullah in Half PPR I also have Steven Hauschka going But he has Prater I am down 20 points. Can I win? I basically need Ebron and Abdullah to score 20 points combined and have my kicker beat his kicker... If this is PPR, I'd actually think you'd be favored to win. Ebron and Abdullah scoring 10 isn't really that far out of the realm of possibility in PPR. You need 5 rec for 50 yds from Ebron, Abdullah to have around 80 yards from scrimmage with a couple receptions, and if either of them score a TD, you're golden.

It is half PPR. Jut so stressful because 2 bench options for flex went off (Hillman and Gurley). I started Abdullah because Joique Bell was out and the Broncos run game has sucked and Gurley I was still skeptical of. Not anymore.

Right now I am projected to score 89 and he is projected 93.

and he has no one left to play. I have Ebron. I am questioning whether to just Bench Ebron so a fumble + benching doesn't cost me the game...

However, worried that stat adjustments could cost me this squeaker as well.

Thoughts?

I get that the kicker can win you games, that's my point, I don't think they should. They are responsible for too many points. Unless you decrease their points or penalize them heavily for misses, they are essentially just as productive as an RB/WR1 for half their games. That's crazy to me.

I was doing great until Roethlisberger went down and Antonio Brown's effectiveness went with him; Tevin Coleman got hurt and Whatever Freeman transformed into Ladainian Tomlinson, likely becoming the starter in the process; Brandin Cooks decided to enact perverse punishment upon all those predicting a breakout season from him; Julio Jones got hurt enough to remove TD passes from Matt Ryan; Cruz's return got postponed indefinitely; and Eric Decker got hurt enough to not be declared a starter until 6:15 am PST.

But ben will be back I just have to hang on until then. My team is 4-0 so I'm ok for now.

I'm really starting to like my other team that started 0-2 now sits at 2-2 with huge back to back weeks. Only tough decison to make is whether to start joseph Randle or gio bernard every week.