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Trainmaster : 10/5/2015 7:53 pm
I didn't see another thread. I'll delete if a duplicate.

The Lions are going nowhere, so I hope they knock off the Seahawks. Very unlikely. The Lions seem to be a mess as the 49ers and Dolphins are.
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I swear  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/5/2015 11:17 pm : link
Some weird fucking nonsense always happens in close games here favoring the Hawks. Ive seen more insane endings here than anywhere. Whether its Feeley missing 18 fgs, Romo fumbling snaps, last years nfc title game, now this horseshit. There is plenty more. It is fucking unreal. Two minuted earlier i was about to post how some weird shit was likely about to go down. Never fails
And Seattle will win again  
dep026 : 10/5/2015 11:17 pm : link
because of their defense, despite Russell Wilson.
Tough way to lose a game  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/5/2015 11:17 pm : link
The Lions are solid but snake bit
TV off.  
Mr. Bungle : 10/5/2015 11:18 pm : link
Get your Seahawks pom-poms out, national sports media.
RE: I swear  
dep026 : 10/5/2015 11:18 pm : link
In comment 12528875 MarshallOnMontana said:
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Some weird fucking nonsense always happens in close games here favoring the Hawks. Ive seen more insane endings here than anywhere. Whether its Feeley missing 18 fgs, Romo fumbling snaps, last years nfc title game, now this horseshit. There is plenty more. It is fucking unreal. Two minuted earlier i was about to post how some weird shit was likely about to go down. Never fails


How could leave out the Fail Mary with the replacement refs? haha
Unreal  
Rflairr : 10/5/2015 11:18 pm : link
Shit like that happens to bad teams. Wow
RE: I swear  
Mr. Bungle : 10/5/2015 11:18 pm : link
In comment 12528875 MarshallOnMontana said:
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Some weird fucking nonsense always happens in close games here favoring the Hawks. Ive seen more insane endings here than anywhere. Whether its Feeley missing 18 fgs, Romo fumbling snaps, last years nfc title game, now this horseshit. There is plenty more. It is fucking unreal. Two minuted earlier i was about to post how some weird shit was likely about to go down. Never fails

I'm surprised you left out the Fail Mary.
Calvin...  
EricJ : 10/5/2015 11:19 pm : link
physically gifted. Often comes up short.

Meanwhile, the fantasy football gods were smiling on the people who had Calvin in their lineup as he was ready to cross the goal line and then ripped their hearts out in a split second.
you see punters bat it out of back of end zones when  
micky : 10/5/2015 11:19 pm : link
they fumble. So it's legal i guess.
Dep  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/5/2015 11:20 pm : link
I'm curious, do you hate all QBs except Eli?
Dep  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/5/2015 11:20 pm : link
Wow that too. I mean what the fuck? Its nuts. I cant believe the shit that happens in this place
RE: you see punters bat it out of back of end zones when  
shyster : 10/5/2015 11:24 pm : link
In comment 12528883 micky said:
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they fumble. So it's legal i guess.


I'm not sure about that reasoning. The punter is accepting the bad result, the safety, so there's nothing to be gained by accepting the penalty.

On first glance at the rules digest, seems illegal. Maybe not reviewable though.

"A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponents goal line or in any direction in either end zone."

Seattle player clearly did the latter.
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RE: Dep  
dep026 : 10/5/2015 11:25 pm : link
In comment 12528884 AP in Halfmoon said:
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I'm curious, do you hate all QBs except Eli?


No actually I enjoy watching a ton of QBs around the league.

I'm curious why are you so sensitive that I called out Wilson for making two huge mistakes? All I did was ask a simple question. Relax there tiger.
Well techinically  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/5/2015 11:25 pm : link
he batted it away from the goal line.
.  
Anakim : 10/5/2015 11:26 pm : link
Pete Prisco ‏@PriscoCBS 2m2 minutes ago
It's illegal to bat or punch the ball like Wagner did
RE: Well techinically  
shyster : 10/5/2015 11:28 pm : link
In comment 12528892 Mike in Long Beach said:
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he batted it away from the goal line.


But the second part of the rules says you can't bat in either direction while in the end zone itself, which applies here.
Seattle player batted the ball out of the endzone...  
bradshaw44 : 10/5/2015 11:30 pm : link
No review by the league?
Too late  
shyster : 10/5/2015 11:32 pm : link
Announcers now talking about it.
LOL  
Sonic Youth : 10/5/2015 11:33 pm : link
If anyone is still watching, there's the confirmation. League totally fucked up.

I totally missed the bat out of the back of the end zone. Huge mistake by the refs.

How could they fuck that up?
Turnover should have been reviewed  
PA Giant Fan : 10/5/2015 11:33 pm : link
Officials screwed them...lol..

It was crazy obvious
How do the fuck is not reviewed  
dep026 : 10/5/2015 11:33 pm : link
or called?

If I am Detroit, I am protesting. That official looking straight at it should be fired tomorrow.
RE: How do the fuck is not reviewed  
Sonic Youth : 10/5/2015 11:34 pm : link
In comment 12528907 dep026 said:
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or called?

If I am Detroit, I am protesting. That official looking straight at it should be fired tomorrow.

Agree. Forget game altering - that can be season altering.

Watch the Seahawks get into the playoffs instead of us BASED ON THIS ONE FUCKING PLAY.
should have been 1st and goal  
PaulBlakeTSU : 10/5/2015 11:34 pm : link
from the half-yard line for Detroit.
wow,,officials messed that bat call  
micky : 10/5/2015 11:35 pm : link
it was illegal
At least the Lions  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/5/2015 11:36 pm : link
Will get an apology from the league.
Billion dollar league  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/5/2015 11:36 pm : link
10-cent officiating.
RE: LOL  
shyster : 10/5/2015 11:37 pm : link
In comment 12528905 Sonic Youth said:
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If anyone is still watching, there's the confirmation. League totally fucked up.

I totally missed the bat out of the back of the end zone. Huge mistake by the refs.

How could they fuck that up?


I think it's the point that micky brought up. You more often see the bat out of the end zone when a player is accepting a bad result, a safety, so the penalty is irrelevant.

That's why Steve Young is confused too.
that was bad  
micky : 10/5/2015 11:38 pm : link
granted I thought myself it was legal because I've seen punters do that when they botch a snap and they bat it out of back of end zone to avoid a touchdown and take a safety.
RE: RE: LOL  
Mad Mike : 10/5/2015 11:38 pm : link
In comment 12528923 shyster said:
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That's why Steve Young is confused too.

Let's not get crazy, Steve Young doesn't need a reason to be confused.
The refereeing this year is horrid  
montanagiant : 10/5/2015 11:39 pm : link
Key missed calls that effect the outcomes of games seems to be the norm
"Shhh! Don't bother us! We're counting our money."  
Mr. Bungle : 10/5/2015 11:39 pm : link
- The NFL

Integrity of the game. Haha. As if that amounts to a hill of beans to this league.
Safety  
GruningsOnTheHill : 10/5/2015 11:40 pm : link
was my first thought when I saw the guy intentionally hit it out. How is it any different from when a punter will kick a blocked punt out of the back of the end zone to take the safety instead of a possible TD by a defender falling on the ball?
RE: RE: Russell Wilson  
santacruzom : 10/5/2015 11:41 pm : link
In comment 12528824 dep026 said:
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In comment 12528813 santacruzom said:


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Is one of those guys whose critics vanish for long stretches as he plays well, then reappear very loudly and boast of how they always knew he was overrated and gimmicky when he posts the obligatory bad game or two.



You mean these two fumbles he has lost that have changed the course of the game?


Yea, that's exactly what I mean! Plays like that snap his critics out of the silence they retreat to when he plays wrll.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/5/2015 11:42 pm : link
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 7m7 minutes ago

Tirico just said they talked to Dean Blandino, who agreed it should've been an illegal bat and remained Lions ball.
However, this involves a touchback instead of a safety  
micky : 10/5/2015 11:43 pm : link
in this situation
RE: RE: RE: Russell Wilson  
dep026 : 10/5/2015 11:43 pm : link
In comment 12528941 santacruzom said:
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In comment 12528824 dep026 said:


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In comment 12528813 santacruzom said:


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Is one of those guys whose critics vanish for long stretches as he plays well, then reappear very loudly and boast of how they always knew he was overrated and gimmicky when he posts the obligatory bad game or two.



You mean these two fumbles he has lost that have changed the course of the game?



Yea, that's exactly what I mean! Plays like that snap his critics out of the silence they retreat to when he plays wrll.


If you think that was a well played game by Wilson, then I cant have a discussion with you about it. Those 2 TOs should have cost them the game. But his defense, like always, overcame his mistake.
RE: ...  
glowrider : 10/5/2015 11:44 pm : link
In comment 12528944 Eric from BBI said:
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Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 7m7 minutes ago

Tirico just said they talked to Dean Blandino, who agreed it should've been an illegal bat and remained Lions ball.


Bummer.
Wilson made some amazing plays  
PA Giant Fan : 10/5/2015 11:45 pm : link
but those two fumbles should have cost them the game
RE: ...  
montanagiant : 10/5/2015 11:50 pm : link
In comment 12528944 Eric from BBI said:
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Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 7m7 minutes ago

Tirico just said they talked to Dean Blandino, who agreed it should've been an illegal bat and remained Lions ball.

So then why the hell did Blandino not change it? Much like what Caldwell is saying, he is sitting in NY on the phone with the review crew when this occurred, so why the hell did he allow it then if he admits it was wrong.

We are seeing this too much with teams that the media has anointed, getting the benefits of these BS non-calls
RE: RE: ...  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/5/2015 11:50 pm : link
In comment 12528968 montanagiant said:
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In comment 12528944 Eric from BBI said:


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Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 7m7 minutes ago

Tirico just said they talked to Dean Blandino, who agreed it should've been an illegal bat and remained Lions ball.


So then why the hell did Blandino not change it? Much like what Caldwell is saying, he is sitting in NY on the phone with the review crew when this occurred, so why the hell did he allow it then if he admits it was wrong.

We are seeing this too much with teams that the media has anointed, getting the benefits of these BS non-calls


Maybe I missed it if it was already discussed, but is that aspect of the play reviewable?
RE: Safety  
Mad Mike : 10/5/2015 11:52 pm : link
In comment 12528940 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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was my first thought when I saw the guy intentionally hit it out. How is it any different from when a punter will kick a blocked punt out of the back of the end zone to take the safety instead of a possible TD by a defender falling on the ball?

A penalty against the offense (punter) in its own endzone is a safety. A penalty on the defense in its own endzone is not.
RE: RE: RE: ...  
Mad Mike : 10/5/2015 11:54 pm : link
In comment 12528972 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Maybe I missed it if it was already discussed, but is that aspect of the play reviewable?

Blandino said it isn't.
Not even the refs know the damn rules.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/5/2015 11:56 pm : link
Just too many rules all over this league. It's insane. The fact that their own refs don't know the rules says alot.
if the replacement refs  
MookGiants : 10/5/2015 11:57 pm : link
did what those refs just did the media would be ready to have them stoned in the streets.

These clowns are every bit as bad as the replacements.

It was so obvious watching it live, how do they miss things like that?
so if you try to recover  
The Turk : 10/6/2015 12:02 am : link
the fumble in the end zone and inadvertently knock it out that's OK, but if you bat it out that's not OK? Is that the rule? So the ref has to judge if you are trying to bat or if you are trying to recover. In this it was obvious but what a stupid rule
Here we go with the spinning  
montanagiant : 10/6/2015 12:02 am : link
"Well it really was that not bad of a push"
back judge was staring right at the play  
micky : 10/6/2015 12:06 am : link
why they didn't get together and make the correction..Don't know
I heard that the play was not reviewable. Why?  
Ivan15 : 10/6/2015 8:31 am : link
Fumbles are reviewable. Change of possession plays are reviewable. Plays in the last 2 minutes are reviewable.

Any explanation why that particular play was not reviewable.
horrid game. unwatchable. poorly played, penalty laden  
Victor in CT : 10/6/2015 8:56 am : link
and Gruden is insufferable.
RE: horrid game. unwatchable. poorly played, penalty laden  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/6/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12529207 Victor in CT said:
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and Gruden is insufferable.




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