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NFT: Michael Jordan continues to prove that he's an a** hole

Eli2Plax1017 : 10/6/2015 10:08 am
Suing a grocery store chain over using his name/likeness without permission when they were congratulating him...already won a case over another store. Obviously he's 100% within his rights, but such a dick move IMO
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There are a lot..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/6/2015 10:10 am : link
of examples to use of Jordan being a dick. This sin't one of them. He also did a similar thing to a Charlotte chain using his name and likeness.

It isn't about the content, it is about a celebrity having control over his name and likeness and that should be protected.
yep  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 10:11 am : link
Fats is dead on - Jordan's a grade-A prick but he's in the right on this one.
I'm not an expert  
steve in ky : 10/6/2015 10:14 am : link
But I think I remember reading where if in cases like this if they choose to not sue and let it slide it can possibly set some sort of precedent of tolerance on his behalf and make it harder to win a lawsuit later in a case where it wasn't as innocent as a congratulations. Basically he is forced to do so to best protect future illegal use of his name.

I may be wrong about that maybe an attorney will weigh in on it.
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RicFlair : 10/6/2015 10:14 am : link
Michael Jordan has every right to challenge this  
sjnyfan : 10/6/2015 10:15 am : link
He has one of the most profitable names in the world. They associated their name along with his in an ad they ran in Sports Illustrated, an international magazine of all things. This isn't new or groundbreaking law. Don't use a celebrity in association with your products without the celebrity's consent. It's been in place for decades.

Besides, all of the money he won from the previous case went to charity. I'm sure he'll do the same with this.
I understand both sides.  
robbieballs2003 : 10/6/2015 10:15 am : link
In Jordan's defense, he has to draw a line with people making money off of his product. This is one of those situations where if you give an inch then it could cost him long term. Plus, the marketing people should know better.

Still, it is a dick move.
is it michael or his lawyers?  
mattlawson : 10/6/2015 10:22 am : link
come on now.
Not saying he is a dick or not  
pjcas18 : 10/6/2015 10:27 am : link
I don't really know, but I was at the Mario Lemieux invitational golf tournament a bunch of years ago and followed around the threesome of Lemieux, Jordan, and Gretzky and they were just behind Marino, Elway and Rypien.

Anyway we'd watch Jordan, Lemieux, and Gretzky tee off and get to the green to see Marino, Elway, and Rypien (fantastic golfer by the way) finish up.

The whole time, Jordan was just having a field day making fun of gretzky. from his clothes, to the fact they had to wait about 8 minutes each par 4/5 for Gretzky to get to the green after Jordan and Lemieux reached it. it was pretty funny. Gretzky seemed to have fun with it too.

this story is almost completely irrelevant, but it's the only time I had an encounter with Jordan so thought I'd share it. Jordan was also gracious with the crowd, signing golf balls and taking pictures along the way. this was a long time ago though, maybe 1999 or 2000.
Because they should obviously be able to use his  
BeerFridge : 10/6/2015 10:29 am : link
likeness without paying him, amirite?
Eli2Plax1017, i will use your likeness to sell products for whatever  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/6/2015 10:34 am : link
it is...

you are fine with that right?
RE: I'm not an expert  
schabadoo : 10/6/2015 10:35 am : link
In comment 12529419 steve in ky said:
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But I think I remember reading where if in cases like this if they choose to not sue and let it slide it can possibly set some sort of precedent of tolerance on his behalf and make it harder to win a lawsuit later in a case where it wasn't as innocent as a congratulations. Basically he is forced to do so to best protect future illegal use of his name.

I may be wrong about that maybe an attorney will weigh in on it.


I know with trademarks you loss your rights if you don't defend them. Not sure if that covers name and likeness.
Barkley played at a tournament at a course I worked at in college  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 10:37 am : link
He was very friendly and gracious with the staff. Maybe golf tournaments just bring out the best in these guys?
Jewel-Osco is not  
bluepepper : 10/6/2015 10:38 am : link
some mom and pop operation. It is a large chain and they used Michael Jordan to promote their stores without his approval. Any celeb would sue in this situation.
RE: Barkley played at a tournament at a course I worked at in college  
pjcas18 : 10/6/2015 10:43 am : link
In comment 12529466 Greg from LI said:
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He was very friendly and gracious with the staff. Maybe golf tournaments just bring out the best in these guys?


probably, I think Barkley could be fun in that setting, he'd make fun of the other people too, and I'd also guess Jordan didn't walk into the super market and see his likeness used and said f-that sue them. It's probably attorneys.

though it should be noted too in the link as you hammer away at Jordan he said he'd use the money he won in the suit for charity. at least it's not simply for more personal gain. maybe a modicum of relief on burying him with that gesture?
again, not commenting on Jordan himself, but I'd imagine someone else is behind this.
RE: Jewel-Osco is not  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/6/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12529469 bluepepper said:
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some mom and pop operation. It is a large chain and they used Michael Jordan to promote their stores without his approval. Any celeb would sue in this situation.


Glad someone else said it. Anyone who lived in the midwest knows Jewel-Osco. If this was some 2 or 3 store operation in 1 tiny nook of the country I'd say he's being a dick.

But this is a company owned by Alberton's; they made 23 billion dollars last year. Meaning only Kroger beats out Jewel-Osco's parent company in what it's worth. Jordan has every right to challenge Jewel-Osco here.
and  
pjcas18 : 10/6/2015 10:44 am : link
"you hammer away at Jordan" wasn't meant to you Greg, I meant you colloquially (everyone)
if you knowingly allow  
bc4life : 10/6/2015 11:02 am : link
a company to use your likeness to market the company - are there liability implications?
RE: RE: I'm not an expert  
Bill L : 10/6/2015 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12529460 schabadoo said:
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In comment 12529419 steve in ky said:


Quote:


But I think I remember reading where if in cases like this if they choose to not sue and let it slide it can possibly set some sort of precedent of tolerance on his behalf and make it harder to win a lawsuit later in a case where it wasn't as innocent as a congratulations. Basically he is forced to do so to best protect future illegal use of his name.

I may be wrong about that maybe an attorney will weigh in on it.



I know with trademarks you loss your rights if you don't defend them. Not sure if that covers name and likeness.
That must suck if you don't have a google alert on yourself. Seems like it would be very hard to keep up.
RE: I understand both sides.  
BigBlueinChicago : 10/6/2015 12:33 pm : link
In comment 12529425 robbieballs2003 said:
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In Jordan's defense, he has to draw a line with people making money off of his product. This is one of those situations where if you give an inch then it could cost him long term. Plus, the marketing people should know better.

Still, it is a dick move.


How is it a dick move?

Please explain.
The stores knew what they were doing  
WideRight : 10/6/2015 12:38 pm : link
And thought Jordan would let them slide. Perhaps, but his lawyers wouldn't. Its easy money for them.
It is very easy for the stores to say  
Matt M. : 10/6/2015 1:35 pm : link
"Hey, we were just congratulating him." But, it is really disingenuous on their parts. Both "congratulatory" ads contained either coupons or marketing materials for their stores. This was marketing disguised as something else. If they had simply taken out an ad that said "Congratulations Michael..." with no images, no mention of their store, etc. it would have been fine.

Is it nitpicking by him? Maybe. But, as pointed out earlier, ignoring it may also be taken as precedence for acceptance on his part, for any use of his name, brand, and image. Also, as pointed out, these are not mom and pop operations either.

And, this is all coming from someone who despises Jordan.
If I'm Jordan  
BlackLight : 10/6/2015 1:41 pm : link
I tell my lawyer to send a C&D letter, and if they ignore that, then sue.

My guess is, they did that. The grocery store knew they were creating a cause of action - they were just hoping that Jordan wouldn't notice or that he wouldn't want to look like the bad guy for suing.
I know someone who lives in Chicago  
SomeFan : 10/6/2015 4:10 pm : link
and played pickup games with Jordan at a YMCA. He always said Jordan was great and very nice. He'd rarely shoot and only from far out. Funny thing is he said there were guys with better outside shots playing.
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