She wants to major in EE/CS robotics, and wants to apply to
Worcester Poly, Rensselaer Poly, Stevens Institute, NorthEastern as her "preferred schools",
Rochester Inst. Tech, SUNY at Stony Brook, Virginia Tech, in order of preference, last 3 as her "safe schools", following campus visits.
Which ones support collaborative project development where students make each other better, which ones have good school spirit, which ones have good placement record after graduation, or other pertinent information or fact that you won't find listed in a glossy package.
When I made this request 2 years ago for my older daughter, I got some really good advice from alums and people with attending family members.
Thanks to BeerFridge, Metnut, Schnitzie among others, older daughter is very happy with her choice.
Canegie Mellon or similar might be out reach. She is in the center of the bell curve as far as qualifications are concerned on the "preferred choices" list, so those are more realistic.
thanks, I was not aware of that.
She liked the Stevens & RIT due their 5 year programs, where you intern for a year, similarly.
2. She may be 100% committed to EE/robotics now but there is just no way of knowing how much a program fits you until you actually major in it. So don't put all your eggs in one basket.
3. She has chosen a lot of "no-fun" schools in rather isolated places. RPI is a great school. But Troy NY is a pit. She is obviously serious about her academics but social life can be important too
I would also suggest NC State as a safe school. Great EE program
Who knows, maybe she'll realize that another major seems more interesting. In that case, it's much easier to transfer into a different program with a more well-rounded school versus an engineering school (MIT and the like being exceptions, of course).
Who knows, maybe she'll realize that another major seems more interesting. In that case, it's much easier to transfer into a different program with a more well-rounded school versus an engineering school (MIT and the like being exceptions, of course).
She was in the robotics club for 2 years before her current senior year and she spends 15-20 hours or so per week, writing scripts, printing 3D parts, etc. All her gamer circle of friends are similarly inclined as well, so her choice of major is not something recent. I think she will be happy with her choice.
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She probably couldn't do better than the good ol' USMA.
Stevens if Beautiful campus, but really small.
17-18 is really young to "know" what you want to do with your life. As someone mentioned, make sure the school covers a wider variety of Engineering in case she changes her mind. They say more than 50% of Engineering majors change their mind on the field they wish to pursue.
Your daughter should go with the school that she thinks she'll fit in the best with.
WPI's program sounds like one you are talking about. That sounded much different than other schools we looked at for my son. My son wanted a big school with Division 1 sports, so we never ended up visiting WPI or RPI.
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Lafayette College
Bucknell University
Stevens is another possibility, but if it came down to RPI vs. Stevens the choice is obvious.
Like some of the other places, Worcester itself is a dump, but it's close to Providence and not far from Boston, so there is a lot to do (and Worcester even has some redeeming qualities).
I would also imagine it's cheaper than the others, but no clue if that's true.
Like some of the other places, Worcester itself is a dump, but it's close to Providence and not far from Boston, so there is a lot to do (and Worcester even has some redeeming qualities).
I would also imagine it's cheaper than the others, but no clue if that's true.
When my niece was applying back in 2005, WPI was very generous with respect to scholarship money to female applicants. I have no idea whether that's still the case.
You can check it out in the link below
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Proud home of other asswipes like myself, Greg Schiano and Sunil Gulati
Although I didn't attend there, I've always been very impressed with Purdue grads.
As someone else said, she may think she knows what she wants to do, but may either find another major / specialty even more interesting once she attends or find out EE/Robotics isn't really what she wants to do.
I'd go for a solid, well rounded Engr School. In additiona to Purdue, we've also had great success with MIT, Stanford, UCLA and Cal Tech grads (I'm on the West Coast, so we draw a lot from West Coast schools).
Best wishes for her.
You can't spell GEEK without EE.
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Stevens is another possibility, but if it came down to RPI vs. Stevens the choice is obvious.
we live on Long Island, so Stony Brook is her in-state, convenient to commute choice.
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thanks. I forwarded the link to her.
no, they had robotics competition & and worked on college essay, resume.
they want a resume from high school kids now. 2 years ago, that was not the case.
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Canegie Mellon or similar might be out reach. She is in the center of the bell curve as far as qualifications are concerned on the "preferred choices" list, so those are more realistic.
I suggest she aims high. It's just an application fee paid by you on the line.
Seriously, I went to RPI but had the somewhat misfortune of getting into every school I applied. I thought MIT was out of reach for me and it would have been my first choice. I was happy with how it all turned out in the end but wondered for a long time what if I had applied to MIT?
Troy has gotten less and less shitty all the time since I was there a long time ago - the hipsters have arrived to gentrify. It's a good place to go to school. Carnegie Mellon is great, too. I loved it but it was a bit farther than I wanted to be from CT.
She has a great list. My recommendation is to get on the road and check these places out. She will probably have a gut feeling about which one feels most like home to her and you will have all kinds of chances to ask the questions you want about curriculum and such.
And I don't remember what I said last time, but you're welcome. :)
Thing about technical schools is you need access to resources, so the bigger the better. RPIs the biggest and best of what you listed
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Canegie Mellon or similar might be out reach. She is in the center of the bell curve as far as qualifications are concerned on the "preferred choices" list, so those are more realistic.
I suggest she aims high. It's just an application fee paid by you on the line.
Seriously, I went to RPI but had the somewhat misfortune of getting into every school I applied. I thought MIT was out of reach for me and it would have been my first choice. I was happy with how it all turned out in the end but wondered for a long time what if I had applied to MIT?
Troy has gotten less and less shitty all the time since I was there a long time ago - the hipsters have arrived to gentrify. It's a good place to go to school. Carnegie Mellon is great, too. I loved it but it was a bit farther than I wanted to be from CT.
She has a great list. My recommendation is to get on the road and check these places out. She will probably have a gut feeling about which one feels most like home to her and you will have all kinds of chances to ask the questions you want about curriculum and such.
And I don't remember what I said last time, but you're welcome. :)
You said that for an architecture major, it is like a school within a larger school, and they sort keep to themselves. I warned her about that, and she joined activities to join the larger community.
While Troy looked pretty bad as a first impression, it kind of grows you over time.
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Canegie Mellon or similar might be out reach. She is in the center of the bell curve as far as qualifications are concerned on the "preferred choices" list, so those are more realistic.
I suggest she aims high. It's just an application fee paid by you on the line.
Seriously, I went to RPI but had the somewhat misfortune of getting into every school I applied. I thought MIT was out of reach for me and it would have been my first choice. I was happy with how it all turned out in the end but wondered for a long time what if I had applied to MIT?
Troy has gotten less and less shitty all the time since I was there a long time ago - the hipsters have arrived to gentrify. It's a good place to go to school. Carnegie Mellon is great, too. I loved it but it was a bit farther than I wanted to be from CT.
She has a great list. My recommendation is to get on the road and check these places out. She will probably have a gut feeling about which one feels most like home to her and you will have all kinds of chances to ask the questions you want about curriculum and such.
And I don't remember what I said last time, but you're welcome. :)
You said that for an architecture major, it is like a school within a larger school, and they sort keep to themselves. I warned her about that, and she joined activities to join the larger community.
While Troy looked pretty bad as a first impression, it kind of grows you over time.
Ah yes, this I remember. Glad your older daughter is enjoying it!
Best of luck to you and your daughter.
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yes, she is applying for that and honors college.
thank you.
I am not too sure after their president decided to gamble the endowment in the stock market. weren't they victimized by Madoff?
I don't know how that affects their current R&D facilities budget.
Football team sucks, but the school is outstanding.
really hard to get into. Like Harvard/Princeton hard.
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Now there is an outstanding school with tons of cred.
really hard to get into. Like Harvard/Princeton hard.
I also spoke to parent of a Cooper Union kid who graduated with a degree in Architecture. He worked so hard to finish the program, that by the time he graduated, he wanted nothing to do with architecture.
I think their EE may be similarly difficult.
We were very impressed with VT when we visited it 2 years ago, on the college tour for our older daughter.
they were number #5 in the country in her major, but she just did not "feel the vibe". So I am not surprised that they are ranked high in EE/CS for our younger daughter.
I would be afraid to send her to Baltimore (John Hopkins)
Call it a weird side effect watching The Wire a few years ago.
West Lafayette is basically Mayberry with a major university.
A few of my colleagues went to Manhattan College in NYC and did well. My partner's son and daughter are both in RPI. They like it.
My son is EE/CE double major at Johns Hopkins. The campus and surrounding area is safe. It's expensive, but they are very responsive to students needs (not like working with a large bureocracy).
I work with professors from NYU (formerly Brooklyn poly), and their program is on the rise.
Rutgers will give you good bang for the buck.
Also check out Bucknell, Lehigh and Cornell. U-Penn has a good engineering school too.
Your daughter should visit small-medium-large and rural-suburban-rural campuses to see what she likes. I think the degree matters more so than the school.
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Now there is an outstanding school with tons of cred.
really hard to get into. Like Harvard/Princeton hard.
I had work experiences in three different fields of civil engineering before I graduated which really helped narrow down the field I wanted to pursue post graduation
I posted about Clarkson on another similar thread. I am out of loop as my EE degree is from way back in 1990, and I left the field 20 years ago. In any event, I always remember Clarkson being talked about very positively back then.
I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.
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I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.
The SUNY schools are a great value. I remember that you attended a SUNY school, but I can't remember which one. I had a double major in physics and EE between Geneseo and Buffalo. I was really happy with that program, and it was definitely rigorous. I was always worried about debt, so I never really considered any private schools. My brother got into Cornell but also attended a SUNY school for the same reason.
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and Robotics was my initial field of interest when looking at schools back in 1987, and it seems the top schools remain the same as back then : RPI, Northeastern, and MIT or USMA if you're willing to aim high.
I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.
The SUNY schools are a great value. I remember that you attended a SUNY school, but I can't remember which one. I had a double major in physics and EE between Geneseo and Buffalo. I was really happy with that program, and it was definitely rigorous. I was always worried about debt, so I never really considered any private schools. My brother got into Cornell but also attended a SUNY school for the same reason.
Hey Rick, I'm a New Paltz grad. As enticing as the big schools were (and I wanted to attend UNC Chapel Hill in the worst way, but the baseball scholarship didn't show up), the SUNY degree and only $9500 in college debt in the end worked for me as well.
I've wondered if life would've been different now if I'd gone away to school ... alumni stuff, maybe an easier time to bump into a future wife etc ... but it was a low cost, low friction option.
At RPI, I stayed with a kid right before finals and teh rest of the hall took his books and confiscated them which sent the kid into the biggest meltdown I've ever seen. I had top call the baseball coach to pick me up and I spent the night with his family.
Both schools I really had high on my list of attending.
My parents offered me a free car to go to West Point, but believe me, you don't want me on that wall. You don't need me on that wall, and my ass wouldn't have been able to drive a car until I was a senior, probably. So I compromised and applied for an ROTC Scholarship. My main decision was to go either Army ROTC or Navy ROTC.
I ended up going Army and choosing Bucknell. The only thing I could have looked back at is if I should have gone to Princeton, but the way things have turned out, I don't really think I've done that.
But on the up side, they would have loaned you the money to buy it yourself.
Bill, Clarkson is in Potsdam too. I loved my time at Geneseo. I made some great friends there that I am still in touch with to this day. Those were three of the best years of my life!
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No athletic money =
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No thank you.
However, the Ivy's have some of the largest endowments and financial aid budgets of any schools out there, so it's the net cost that matters more than the top line.
For example, if your household income is less than $100K/yr then your accepted student can attend Dartmouth tuition-free. That's huge.
Such is life.