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NFT: Requesting college choice advice for daughter

Floyd_Fan : 10/6/2015 11:25 am
She wants to major in EE/CS robotics, and wants to apply to
Worcester Poly, Rensselaer Poly, Stevens Institute, NorthEastern as her "preferred schools",
Rochester Inst. Tech, SUNY at Stony Brook, Virginia Tech, in order of preference, last 3 as her "safe schools", following campus visits.

Which ones support collaborative project development where students make each other better, which ones have good school spirit, which ones have good placement record after graduation, or other pertinent information or fact that you won't find listed in a glossy package.

When I made this request 2 years ago for my older daughter, I got some really good advice from alums and people with attending family members.

Thanks to BeerFridge, Metnut, Schnitzie among others, older daughter is very happy with her choice.
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Civil engineer here  
BH28 : 10/6/2015 10:51 pm : link
Applied to most of those same schools, ultimately chose northeastern for the co-op environment. I really think it is invaluable in getting solid work experience prior to graduating. There are co-op opportunities anywhere in the world that she can take advantage of.

I had work experiences in three different fields of civil engineering before I graduated which really helped narrow down the field I wanted to pursue post graduation
RE: I wouldn't rule out Clarkson  
Rick5 : 10/7/2015 1:03 pm : link
In comment 12530497 AP in Halfmoon said:
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for the EE program.

I posted about Clarkson on another similar thread. I am out of loop as my EE degree is from way back in 1990, and I left the field 20 years ago. In any event, I always remember Clarkson being talked about very positively back then.
out of the loop.  
Rick5 : 10/7/2015 1:04 pm : link
...
CS/EE grad here  
JonC : 10/7/2015 1:16 pm : link
and Robotics was my initial field of interest when looking at schools back in 1987, and it seems the top schools remain the same as back then : RPI, Northeastern, and MIT or USMA if you're willing to aim high.

I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.
Rick  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/7/2015 1:28 pm : link
My son is a recent Clarkson grad and we're all very pleased with the program, placement, etc.
RE: Rick  
Rick5 : 10/7/2015 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12532536 AP in Halfmoon said:
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My son is a recent Clarkson grad and we're all very pleased with the program, placement, etc.

Cool!
RE: CS/EE grad here  
Rick5 : 10/7/2015 1:34 pm : link
In comment 12532477 JonC said:
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and Robotics was my initial field of interest when looking at schools back in 1987, and it seems the top schools remain the same as back then : RPI, Northeastern, and MIT or USMA if you're willing to aim high.

I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.

The SUNY schools are a great value. I remember that you attended a SUNY school, but I can't remember which one. I had a double major in physics and EE between Geneseo and Buffalo. I was really happy with that program, and it was definitely rigorous. I was always worried about debt, so I never really considered any private schools. My brother got into Cornell but also attended a SUNY school for the same reason.
SUNY schools are indeed a great value (two of my kids are SUNY grads)  
Bill L : 10/7/2015 1:39 pm : link
In re-thinking though, I wish the one who went to Geneseo (a really nice school) went to somewhere a little less isolated. I don't know if Clarkson is the same way. I did have some students and techs who got their degrees from places like Potsdam, SLU, Canton and said the only thing to do there is get drunk and STD's. That wouldn't have been my choice as a parent, so, I would say that location does play some role in making a choice.
RE: RE: CS/EE grad here  
JonC : 10/7/2015 1:41 pm : link
In comment 12532560 Rick5 said:
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In comment 12532477 JonC said:


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and Robotics was my initial field of interest when looking at schools back in 1987, and it seems the top schools remain the same as back then : RPI, Northeastern, and MIT or USMA if you're willing to aim high.

I wound up at a SUNY with no robotics program, but got re-directed by this thing called a router and the Internet in '89 as an undergrad. Would agree an excellent engineering school in general will present a number of career options.


The SUNY schools are a great value. I remember that you attended a SUNY school, but I can't remember which one. I had a double major in physics and EE between Geneseo and Buffalo. I was really happy with that program, and it was definitely rigorous. I was always worried about debt, so I never really considered any private schools. My brother got into Cornell but also attended a SUNY school for the same reason.


Hey Rick, I'm a New Paltz grad. As enticing as the big schools were (and I wanted to attend UNC Chapel Hill in the worst way, but the baseball scholarship didn't show up), the SUNY degree and only $9500 in college debt in the end worked for me as well.

I've wondered if life would've been different now if I'd gone away to school ... alumni stuff, maybe an easier time to bump into a future wife etc ... but it was a low cost, low friction option.

I had the shittiest tours of..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 1:42 pm : link
Clarkson and RPI. At clarkson they told us each student would get their own PC and things were going well until we walked outside and 4 inches of snow fell in an hour. We were in a whiteout until we hit Watertown.

At RPI, I stayed with a kid right before finals and teh rest of the hall took his books and confiscated them which sent the kid into the biggest meltdown I've ever seen. I had top call the baseball coach to pick me up and I spent the night with his family.

Both schools I really had high on my list of attending.
Bill L  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/7/2015 1:43 pm : link
There's a not a lot to do in Canton or Potsdam but that's an exaggeration. Clarkson is demanding so there's not a lot of free time to begin with. Students who enjoy being active, skiing, etc are probably better suited.
FatMan  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/7/2015 1:45 pm : link
I'm not sure when you toured the campus but the free PC program is a clue. The campus has changed a great deal since then, for the better. Unfortunately, the weather hasn't.
AP..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 1:49 pm : link
it was 1987. I had narrowed my choices down to University of Rochester, West Point, Bucknell, Princeton, Clarkson, RPI and Cornell.

My parents offered me a free car to go to West Point, but believe me, you don't want me on that wall. You don't need me on that wall, and my ass wouldn't have been able to drive a car until I was a senior, probably. So I compromised and applied for an ROTC Scholarship. My main decision was to go either Army ROTC or Navy ROTC.

I ended up going Army and choosing Bucknell. The only thing I could have looked back at is if I should have gone to Princeton, but the way things have turned out, I don't really think I've done that.
It's true that West Point wouldn't have let you drive the car  
Bill L : 10/7/2015 1:51 pm : link
until you were senior.

But on the up side, they would have loaned you the money to buy it yourself.
In effect they did..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 1:52 pm : link
anyway through the ROTC Scholarship:)
RE: SUNY schools are indeed a great value (two of my kids are SUNY grads)  
Rick5 : 10/7/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12532574 Bill L said:
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In re-thinking though, I wish the one who went to Geneseo (a really nice school) went to somewhere a little less isolated. I don't know if Clarkson is the same way. I did have some students and techs who got their degrees from places like Potsdam, SLU, Canton and said the only thing to do there is get drunk and STD's. That wouldn't have been my choice as a parent, so, I would say that location does play some role in making a choice.

Bill, Clarkson is in Potsdam too. I loved my time at Geneseo. I made some great friends there that I am still in touch with to this day. Those were three of the best years of my life!
thank you all for your input.  
Floyd_Fan : 10/7/2015 5:31 pm : link
Anecdotal info that you provided is really valuable.
Cornell ...  
DonQuixote : 10/8/2015 10:15 am : link
Why is Cornell not being included in this discussion. Seems to be the strongest Engineering in the Ivy League, and it fits geographically. Am I wrong there?
Ivy League  
Maryland Giant : 10/8/2015 11:07 am : link
No merit money +
No athletic money =
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No thank you.
Stony  
DanMetroMan : 10/8/2015 11:09 am : link
Brook is a very cold campus (lots of commuters) and is very, very cliquey. I hated it there and left as soon as I could (keep in mind this was 2000-2001)
Rowan University in NJ  
Bubba : 10/8/2015 11:21 am : link
often gets overlooked but they consistently rank in the top 10 of all engineering schools in the country. Worth a look.
RE: Ivy League  
SwirlingEddie : 10/8/2015 11:43 am : link
In comment 12534113 Maryland Giant said:
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No merit money +
No athletic money =
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No thank you.


However, the Ivy's have some of the largest endowments and financial aid budgets of any schools out there, so it's the net cost that matters more than the top line.

For example, if your household income is less than $100K/yr then your accepted student can attend Dartmouth tuition-free. That's huge.
True  
Maryland Giant : 10/8/2015 12:35 pm : link
If you are eligible for large amounts of need based aid, you are in good shape for the Ivies. However, if you are not eligible for large amounts of need based aid it is utterly unaffordable.

Such is life.

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