notion that Eli was upset with Beckham throughout the game?
He didn't throw his direction much and when he did it appeared that Odel was not on the same page or running the correct routes. I distinctly recall one play where Eli signaled to Beckham after an incompletion.
Definitely. Eli motioned to him after almost every miscue as if to say, "Hey, when they do this, you do THAT". They should clean that up quickly.
My point is that dancing and talking trash aren't synonyms for emotion. They're just stupid, unoriginal, and generally lame. Look at me bullshit that you'd expect from a ten year old before he does a cannonball into a pool.
Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Muhummad Ali and a multitude of highly driven, successful, championship athletes would disagree. We're talking about athletic competition at the highest levels. Emotion is going to show itself in different ways.
There is no one 'way' to be. Different people self-motivate in different ways. I always wonder why people who spend their lives watching sports don't recognize different types of personalities at work. Breaking it down to quiet guys = good, brash guys = bad is remarkably simple.
I wouldn't put Beckham's lame end zone celebration in the same category as Michael Jordan mentally breaking an opponent's will to compete, but that's just me.
who take every opportunity to knock a Giant players--especially good ones. It's a weird thing. I think it comes from listening to your daddies whining about the shitty Giants over the years so your nerve endings are predisposed to being unhappy--even when things are going well.
Therapy is in order.
wrong Randy and what if Beckham ends up costing the Giants a playoff opportunity because he is suspended and leaves the team without a play-maker. Or worse does something stupid and gets injured aka PLax?
Toomer / Cruz / Nicks / Manningham never did that.
Wait Cruz and Nicks do not point first downs or dance on teh field??
obviously I was referring to throwing punches on the field. Keep up now ...
Obvious odell has maturity issues. This isnt the first time. He ignited a bench clearing brawl last yr. He isnt playing well this year and needs to grow up
Obvious odell has maturity issues. This isnt the first time. He ignited a bench clearing brawl last yr. He isnt playing well this year and needs to grow up
If you're talking about St Louis, their cheap shots on him were obvious to everyone.
Sounds like he's speaking that foreign language known as Honesty
Odell plays with fire, and passion. And is extremely aggressive.
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
Odell plays with fire, and passion. And is extremely aggressive.
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
Odell plays with fire, and passion. And is extremely aggressive.
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
"On that last drive, their defense was kind of like -- when they were getting penalties -- they were like, 'This game is over anyway,'" Pugh said after the game, according to Syracuse.com. "That is kind of how it was. It was kind of crazy out there on that last drive. Mayhem. Refs yelling at players, players yelling at refs. I was just sitting back and trying not to get fined $15,000 for something."
There IS A LINE between playing hard/emotional/intense and playing dirty. If you played sports you know the difference.
1) If Beckham continues this...several things can and will go wrong. The target on his back will be even bigger than it already is.
2) Refs will be made aware of this and they will be looking for it so they can throw the flag. How about a 25 yard TD on 4th down called back because of something he does after the play?
3) Teammates can get caught in the mix. If Beckham starts a fight...you know his guys will have his back. Bad luck could get one of those guys thrown out of the game. I've seen it several times.
4) And I won't go in to detail on this...But Beckham's immaturity doesn't end on the field. There are things outside of the public eye that could likely get him in trouble eventually.
was protecting manning when he went after preston brown
it was the snap that got messed up because he was trying to call TO and eli covered the ball and was on the ground and i believe someone from the bills jumped on him and wouldnt budge
This is football. Players are gonna mix it up all the time, and Beckham is feisty. That is all.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
Beckham into the poster boy for good behavior, never in the public eye, etc. It ain't happening. Fod Christ sake he just had an entire hour on NFL network devoted to his daily life (which was awesome). Embrace it baby! You think some of the old time Giants were happy with Beckham fighting back after the hits on Eli? You bet they were. I'm sick of the "zero-attitude" Giants that we've seen the past 4 seasons.
RE: I think you guys need to take a few plays off...
This is football. Players are gonna mix it up all the time, and Beckham is feisty. That is all.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
My point is he has a lot of growing up to do. If you aren't ok with that, thats ok. We don't need to agree all the time.
If Dez acted this way in a game against NYG we know how people here would react.
Did anyone besides the Bills see all of these punches?
This is football. Players are gonna mix it up all the time, and Beckham is feisty. That is all.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
My point is he has a lot of growing up to do. If you aren't ok with that, thats ok. We don't need to agree all the time.
If Dez acted this way in a game against NYG we know how people here would react.
Fair enough - I see the obvious need for him to tone it down a bit. Regarding Dez - the Cowboys have absolutely owned us the past 3 years. As far as I'm concerned, Dez can do whatever he wants.
But what exactly did you mean when you said Beckham's off-field stuff will "get him into trouble one day."?? Seems a bit over the top, no? Unless you have some insider information, that's kind of a pretty big comment to make. I see him on instagram, twitter, facebook, at all these events, etc. The kid is 23 living his life, and oh he plays for the Giants. That's how I see it.
it's clear that some of us BBIers have no issue with it, some do. My response would be - would you rather have our players sleep walk up and down the field, not react when our QB gets a cheap shot in the pile? Would we rather have a superstar WR who just broke the record for best 16 games ever by a WR in the history of the league who just happens to be a little bit immature. Or would we rather have an upstanding citizen who causes no harm and collects 40 balls for 750 and a few touchdowns ?
You need to do what you need to do in a sport where big men run as fast as they can into each other. I am never going to fault OBJ because he is my guy and that means he is always in the right. If you don't like it you can kiss my ass
who prefer a team of head-down, hand the ball to the ref, fall in line type football players because it fits their ideal of what a professional athlete should be.
who prefer a team of head-down, hand the ball to the ref, fall in line type football players because it fits their ideal of what a professional athlete should be.
I don't want him to lose any emotion. He wants to dance after a 1st down? Fine. He wants to jaw at a DB? Fine. What I don't want is him shoving a DB or throwing a punch after the whistle just because he's frustrated with their physical play or baiting him. I'm sure both of those tactics will only increase now. I would prefer he not start getting penalties to negate his overwhelmingly positive contributions.
who prefer a team of head-down, hand the ball to the ref, fall in line type football players because it fits their ideal of what a professional athlete should be.
I don't want him to lose any emotion. He wants to dance after a 1st down? Fine. He wants to jaw at a DB? Fine. What I don't want is him shoving a DB or throwing a punch after the whistle just because he's frustrated with their physical play or baiting him. I'm sure both of those tactics will only increase now. I would prefer he not start getting penalties to negate his overwhelmingly positive contributions.
The problem is that the dancing and jawing tend to lead to the punching and other stuff. Especially when you are a rookie who suddenly became the "face of the NFL" and you already have a target on your back.
it's clear that some of us BBIers have no issue with it, some do. My response would be - would you rather have our players sleep walk up and down the field, not react when our QB gets a cheap shot in the pile? Would we rather have a superstar WR who just broke the record for best 16 games ever by a WR in the history of the league who just happens to be a little bit immature. Or would we rather have an upstanding citizen who causes no harm and collects 40 balls for 750 and a few touchdowns ?
I'd rather have a superstar WR who catches 100+ balls for 1600 yards and 20TD's who isn't a spoiled, immature momma's boy. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
it's clear that some of us BBIers have no issue with it, some do. My response would be - would you rather have our players sleep walk up and down the field, not react when our QB gets a cheap shot in the pile? Would we rather have a superstar WR who just broke the record for best 16 games ever by a WR in the history of the league who just happens to be a little bit immature. Or would we rather have an upstanding citizen who causes no harm and collects 40 balls for 750 and a few touchdowns ?
Which is fine. Again the disagreements here are what keeps this place running and I applaud you for going about it the right way. Some of the kids here should take notes!
As for sleep walking or throwing punches...which is better? Honestly I would rather have a team that throws punches. But we both know those aren't the only two options.It's an emotional game and guys will make mistakes as we all do in life...but chronic ones can lead to much bigger problems.
I do have info on Beckham and I apologize if it seems annoying that I unbuttoned the the top two of the story and left the rest as is. That was not my intention. I just wanted to add to my point that I hope this kid can stay out of trouble. He has been a godsend for this franchise and I would hate for it to end in a TO/Desean type situation.
Throwing temper tantrums is not a sign of emotion...
There IS A LINE between playing hard/emotional/intense and playing dirty. If you played sports you know the difference.
1) If Beckham continues this...several things can and will go wrong. The target on his back will be even bigger than it already is.
2) Refs will be made aware of this and they will be looking for it so they can throw the flag. How about a 25 yard TD on 4th down called back because of something he does after the play?
3) Teammates can get caught in the mix. If Beckham starts a fight...you know his guys will have his back. Bad luck could get one of those guys thrown out of the game. I've seen it several times.
4) And I won't go in to detail on this...But Beckham's immaturity doesn't end on the field. There are things outside of the public eye that could likely get him in trouble eventually.
On #2, if he does something after the play the TD would still count. The penalty would be assessed on the kickoff.
RE: RE: I think you guys need to take a few plays off...
that is focused on production and not on the other stuff. Sort of the deal with teh devil you make with certain players. Luckily, a guy like Plax worked out long enough for a ring and then KABOOM! Literally.
ODB has shades of OchoCinco and TO in him. As long as it stays that way on the field and doesn't lead to off field shit, we'll have to take it.
Wish he'd tone it down, but that probably ain't going to happen.
that is the end of our responsibilities. The pious bullshit I read hear is just that pious bullshit. Why don't you draw up a terms of service regarding how fans are supposed to react ?
who don't think that OBJ was off on Sunday. Both in running routes and his over the top reactions to the opposition at times. Clearly he was affected by the Bills and it got in his head a bit. On more than one occasion he and Eli were completely out of sync.
The most important thing is that the Giants won the game and did so in fine style.
The most important thing moving forward for OBJ is that he cleans up his work with his QB. I love the guys hustle and effort. He really puts forth a stellar effort between the lines. I loved seeing his blocking down the field on the Jennings TD. And him chasing down the play after the int. Your star player is working.
As I said yesterday, I'm willing to give him a pass on this Sunday's jab at the DB who lit him up. Just don't pull that shit again. It's going to get flagged next time and that never helps the team.
But now that a quasi-recipe to frustrate him is sort of out there he needs to be vigilant in not getting caught up in the bullshit and play the mental gymnastics game with the defenses now. Flip the script and get in tune with Eli and dominate catching the ball. All the other stuff should take a backseat.
but I never got being called a homer as a fan of a team being a negative. It is a hot button, like I'm supposed to be this objective studious observer of the games and render impartial judgements to sound sports sophisticated. Well the reason I watch sports is so I have an outlet where I can feel instead of thinking and sounding knowledgeable in my objectivity
He didn't throw his direction much and when he did it appeared that Odel was not on the same page or running the correct routes. I distinctly recall one play where Eli signaled to Beckham after an incompletion.
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My point is that dancing and talking trash aren't synonyms for emotion. They're just stupid, unoriginal, and generally lame. Look at me bullshit that you'd expect from a ten year old before he does a cannonball into a pool.
Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, Muhummad Ali and a multitude of highly driven, successful, championship athletes would disagree. We're talking about athletic competition at the highest levels. Emotion is going to show itself in different ways.
There is no one 'way' to be. Different people self-motivate in different ways. I always wonder why people who spend their lives watching sports don't recognize different types of personalities at work. Breaking it down to quiet guys = good, brash guys = bad is remarkably simple.
I wouldn't put Beckham's lame end zone celebration in the same category as Michael Jordan mentally breaking an opponent's will to compete, but that's just me.
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who take every opportunity to knock a Giant players--especially good ones. It's a weird thing. I think it comes from listening to your daddies whining about the shitty Giants over the years so your nerve endings are predisposed to being unhappy--even when things are going well.
Therapy is in order.
wrong Randy and what if Beckham ends up costing the Giants a playoff opportunity because he is suspended and leaves the team without a play-maker. Or worse does something stupid and gets injured aka PLax?
Toomer / Cruz / Nicks / Manningham never did that.
Wait Cruz and Nicks do not point first downs or dance on teh field??
obviously I was referring to throwing punches on the field. Keep up now ...
obviously I was referring to throwing punches on the field. Keep up now ...
Everyone already agreed the punch was stupid...
Amazing that anyone could see it that way.
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
Let the church say Amen!
Yes he talks shit and jaws at opponents. He admits to it. That's what he likes to do try and get in people's heads. However everyone on this site needs to stop acting like talking some shit is some great travesty. He's a fucking football player. EVERYONE and I mean everyone in the NFL talks trash except for a few people like Eli and a few outliers.
Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady your two poster boy qbs talk tons of shit
Brady is always screaming at everyone but for him it's just passion. He doesn't get told to tone it down. Receivers dbacks linebackers. Celebrate after every play. Any time an average joe makes a catch, breaks up a pass makes a nice tackle. There is some sort of celebration. That's just what the NFL is. Players talk shit after every play. They celebrate after plays. They dance and do what gets them hyped and fired up.
So for me. Odell can talk as much shit as he wants. His talent puts a target on him. Your fucking stupid if you think just because Odell goes over the middle a safety thinks. Wow this guy talks shit. Better lite him up. As opposed to thinking wow he really is a nice guy better make sure I won't tackle him to hard. That's dumb and idiotic thinking. Receivers get laid out by dbs because that's what they do. Secondary players love to lay hits. Beckham talking shit or not talking shit doesn't change that
However I don't want beckham throwing punches. That I do not like he could hurt himself. He could hurt the team by getting penalties or getting thrown out or suspended.
But as far as end zone dances and talking trash to opposing corners. Couldn't give a shit.
You want "classy" players. Go watch something else
thank you, you saved me a whole lot of typing
"On that last drive, their defense was kind of like -- when they were getting penalties -- they were like, 'This game is over anyway,'" Pugh said after the game, according to Syracuse.com. "That is kind of how it was. It was kind of crazy out there on that last drive. Mayhem. Refs yelling at players, players yelling at refs. I was just sitting back and trying not to get fined $15,000 for something."
Made me laugh out loud.
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1) If Beckham continues this...several things can and will go wrong. The target on his back will be even bigger than it already is.
2) Refs will be made aware of this and they will be looking for it so they can throw the flag. How about a 25 yard TD on 4th down called back because of something he does after the play?
3) Teammates can get caught in the mix. If Beckham starts a fight...you know his guys will have his back. Bad luck could get one of those guys thrown out of the game. I've seen it several times.
4) And I won't go in to detail on this...But Beckham's immaturity doesn't end on the field. There are things outside of the public eye that could likely get him in trouble eventually.
Absolutely no need for that, I agree, but that looks more like a shove (which happens almost after every play in the NFL) than a punch.
I'm not condoning it at all, I dont like it, its only going to make him a target, but its hard to accept that as "a punch".
All that said, he needs to cut out the punches, or someone is going to try and end his career.
it was the snap that got messed up because he was trying to call TO and eli covered the ball and was on the ground and i believe someone from the bills jumped on him and wouldnt budge
When the poster is Old Dirty Beckham, it is par for the course. The only missing piece is him blaming TC or Reese for ODB's outburst.
All that said, he needs to cut out the punches, or someone is going to try and end his career.
I didn't like that either. But at least he was 270lbs and could defend himself against a lineman if he had to.
I especially didn't like when he threw the ball at the wall after a TD, which his mother had him cease and desist.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
My point is he has a lot of growing up to do. If you aren't ok with that, thats ok. We don't need to agree all the time.
If Dez acted this way in a game against NYG we know how people here would react.
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This is football. Players are gonna mix it up all the time, and Beckham is feisty. That is all.
And Sy' - kinda getting tired of the "off the field maturity issues..but I can't get into that..." stuff. Either tell us what it is that has everyone so "concerned" or don't mention it.
Beckham is a star, he's gonna be all over the place. It's just how it is. Can't see it affecting his play at all.
My point is he has a lot of growing up to do. If you aren't ok with that, thats ok. We don't need to agree all the time.
If Dez acted this way in a game against NYG we know how people here would react.
Fair enough - I see the obvious need for him to tone it down a bit. Regarding Dez - the Cowboys have absolutely owned us the past 3 years. As far as I'm concerned, Dez can do whatever he wants.
But what exactly did you mean when you said Beckham's off-field stuff will "get him into trouble one day."?? Seems a bit over the top, no? Unless you have some insider information, that's kind of a pretty big comment to make. I see him on instagram, twitter, facebook, at all these events, etc. The kid is 23 living his life, and oh he plays for the Giants. That's how I see it.
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who prefer a team of head-down, hand the ball to the ref, fall in line type football players because it fits their ideal of what a professional athlete should be.
I don't want him to lose any emotion. He wants to dance after a 1st down? Fine. He wants to jaw at a DB? Fine. What I don't want is him shoving a DB or throwing a punch after the whistle just because he's frustrated with their physical play or baiting him. I'm sure both of those tactics will only increase now. I would prefer he not start getting penalties to negate his overwhelmingly positive contributions.
The problem is that the dancing and jawing tend to lead to the punching and other stuff. Especially when you are a rookie who suddenly became the "face of the NFL" and you already have a target on your back.
Which is fine. Again the disagreements here are what keeps this place running and I applaud you for going about it the right way. Some of the kids here should take notes!
As for sleep walking or throwing punches...which is better? Honestly I would rather have a team that throws punches. But we both know those aren't the only two options.It's an emotional game and guys will make mistakes as we all do in life...but chronic ones can lead to much bigger problems.
I do have info on Beckham and I apologize if it seems annoying that I unbuttoned the the top two of the story and left the rest as is. That was not my intention. I just wanted to add to my point that I hope this kid can stay out of trouble. He has been a godsend for this franchise and I would hate for it to end in a TO/Desean type situation.
1) If Beckham continues this...several things can and will go wrong. The target on his back will be even bigger than it already is.
2) Refs will be made aware of this and they will be looking for it so they can throw the flag. How about a 25 yard TD on 4th down called back because of something he does after the play?
3) Teammates can get caught in the mix. If Beckham starts a fight...you know his guys will have his back. Bad luck could get one of those guys thrown out of the game. I've seen it several times.
4) And I won't go in to detail on this...But Beckham's immaturity doesn't end on the field. There are things outside of the public eye that could likely get him in trouble eventually.
On #2, if he does something after the play the TD would still count. The penalty would be assessed on the kickoff.
My point is he has a lot of growing up to do. If you aren't ok with that, thats ok. We don't need to agree all the time.
If Dez acted this way in a game against NYG we know how people here would react.
Could not agree more, and if you can't see this than you're blinded by your homer glasses.
ODB has shades of OchoCinco and TO in him. As long as it stays that way on the field and doesn't lead to off field shit, we'll have to take it.
Wish he'd tone it down, but that probably ain't going to happen.
The most important thing is that the Giants won the game and did so in fine style.
The most important thing moving forward for OBJ is that he cleans up his work with his QB. I love the guys hustle and effort. He really puts forth a stellar effort between the lines. I loved seeing his blocking down the field on the Jennings TD. And him chasing down the play after the int. Your star player is working.
As I said yesterday, I'm willing to give him a pass on this Sunday's jab at the DB who lit him up. Just don't pull that shit again. It's going to get flagged next time and that never helps the team.
But now that a quasi-recipe to frustrate him is sort of out there he needs to be vigilant in not getting caught up in the bullshit and play the mental gymnastics game with the defenses now. Flip the script and get in tune with Eli and dominate catching the ball. All the other stuff should take a backseat.
-- Wilbert Mongomery, 1981
(after we beat the crap out of the Eagles...funny how that works, you're dirty when you start playing physical and win).
Beckham fucked up by throwing a punch. That's unacceptable.
Or are you just upset that Year of the Locust is delayed until May 2016?
From this guy.... - ( New Window )