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NFT: Francesa going balls deep on FanDuel/DraftKings

Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/6/2015 1:26 pm
Basically that if there's no oversight that the game is rigged, and the leagues and those taking advertising money should really think twice about what's going on because they are condoning it. Went into the efforts around horse racing oversight and that hackers are still trying to beat the system today (paramutual wagering). Both companies have declined to appear on the show.

He's right in this case - if you work for a CIB, you have to any stock purchases you want to make into a Compliance system to ensure you are not trading on privileged or proprietary information. Yet after millions on advertising and investment from ESPN and the NFL (Kraft and Jones are investors), there was no rule against playing in another daily league until the Times story. Baffling.

Best part is that Francesa took a subtle shot at the rest of his station, saying he didn't take money from them when others did (Beningo & Roberts, Carton).

Having the writer on now about the article.
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RE: I'm so sick of hearing about FanDuel, Draftkings.  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/6/2015 3:25 pm : link
In comment 12530091 DC Gmen Fan said:
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and Fantasy Football in general. Am I alone?


Nope. I love the sport. Played one year for free with my son but what a waste of time. And their commercials are starting to annoy me. Every other one it seems
It doesn't just extend to ESPN either. They're an 'official partner'  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/6/2015 3:25 pm : link
to Major League Baseball.

The same business that will ban players for life for gambling wants you to sign up and not-gamble with their daily fantasy sports game. with money.
phil in arizona -  
Mr. Bungle : 10/6/2015 3:27 pm : link
That Bill Burr clip was awesome! Thanks for posting!

"RIGHT THERE!"
I've been a longtime hater of fantasy football  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 3:30 pm : link
But if people want to throw their money away, what do I care?
I'd be cool with these two companies eating some shit.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/6/2015 3:32 pm : link
Fine by me.
I'm sick of fantasy sports  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 3:33 pm : link
It's an evil of our time. The ads are worse than the Geico ads.

Having said that, I agree with Greg. I don't feel for the suckers who lose money at it.
Oh I'm not overly concerned with the people who pour money into it  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/6/2015 3:35 pm : link
I'm just sick and tired of the pervasive, insidious and constant ads all over every bit of sports content. I don't spend time watching regular tv, so when I'm watching sports, all I get is hammered over the head with draftkings. Enough already.
Geico is worse  
Mr. Bungle : 10/6/2015 3:36 pm : link
and shall remain worse for quite some time.
ESPN pulled their in program participation  
micky : 10/6/2015 3:38 pm : link
in ads for draft kings
The ads are definitely annoying  
YAJ2112 : 10/6/2015 3:39 pm : link
just as the Chevy/Ford ads were annoying when Saved By Zero or whatever the Mellencamp song was, were being played every 2 minutes.
Mr Bungle  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 3:39 pm : link
"The Final Countdown" ad is like nails on a chalk board.
If people want to throw away their money...  
okiegiant : 10/6/2015 3:40 pm : link
It's no business of mine, but I will say the saturation level of commercials has me hoping both companies go belly up before the next game I watch.
Regarding Sacco  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 3:42 pm : link
That was actually a very sad deal. I feel for her. She made a stupid remark and paid dearly. Her story is worth checking out if you're interested.
RE: Regarding Sacco  
sshin05 : 10/6/2015 3:43 pm : link
In comment 12530482 AP in Halfmoon said:
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That was actually a very sad deal. I feel for her. She made a stupid remark and paid dearly. Her story is worth checking out if you're interested.


It was a mob mentality at the time that destroyed someone's life. Public bashing/shaming is actually a thing.
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RE: Mr Bungle  
Mr. Bungle : 10/6/2015 3:44 pm : link
In comment 12530474 AP in Halfmoon said:
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"The Final Countdown" ad is like nails on a chalk board.

Yes. When something that wasn't funny the first time is thrown in your face for the hundredth time...well.
RE: was talking to my friends the other day  
HomerJones45 : 10/6/2015 3:45 pm : link
In comment 12530135 UConn4523 said:
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that i'm shocked the NFL is aligning themselves with these sites. For as protective of their brand that they are, I can't see the ad revenue being worth it for them. These sites are going down and its only a matter of time.
The NFL is not protective of their brand. They are protective of their cut of the action. They would license their brand for toilet paper and outhouses if they got paid for it.
RE: Regarding Sacco  
Mr. Bungle : 10/6/2015 3:45 pm : link
In comment 12530482 AP in Halfmoon said:
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That was actually a very sad deal. I feel for her. She made a stupid remark and paid dearly. Her story is worth checking out if you're interested.

That was a fascinating story. Someone (Dunedin81?) posted it here a while ago, and it prompted a very thought-provoking discussion.
Nothing is worse than those 'Flo' commercials.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/6/2015 3:46 pm : link
God awful.
RE: RE: was talking to my friends the other day  
sshin05 : 10/6/2015 3:47 pm : link
In comment 12530487 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 12530135 UConn4523 said:


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that i'm shocked the NFL is aligning themselves with these sites. For as protective of their brand that they are, I can't see the ad revenue being worth it for them. These sites are going down and its only a matter of time.

The NFL is not protective of their brand. They are protective of their cut of the action. They would license their brand for toilet paper and outhouses if they got paid for it.


Under Goodell, the NFL has become an extremely greedy entity. They view themselves as upstanding citizens and expect their players to be that way, but can't live themselves in that regard.
Unless....  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/6/2015 3:47 pm : link
you want to nominate that 'Kars 4 Kids' commercials. Tough call between them and the Flo commercials. Both shithouse awful.
RE: RE: Regarding Sacco  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 3:51 pm : link
In comment 12530488 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 12530482 AP in Halfmoon said:


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That was actually a very sad deal. I feel for her. She made a stupid remark and paid dearly. Her story is worth checking out if you're interested.


That was a fascinating story. Someone (Dunedin81?) posted it here a while ago, and it prompted a very thought-provoking discussion.


Here it is again. Social media is largely comprised of useless, spiteful losers.
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I found it very hard to feel any differently for Sacco after reading  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/6/2015 3:52 pm : link
that.

Why even say it to begin with.
Hopefully this means  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/6/2015 3:52 pm : link
No more Beningo draftKings commercials.
RE: RE: Regarding Sacco  
sshin05 : 10/6/2015 3:53 pm : link
In comment 12530488 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 12530482 AP in Halfmoon said:


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That was actually a very sad deal. I feel for her. She made a stupid remark and paid dearly. Her story is worth checking out if you're interested.


That was a fascinating story. Someone (Dunedin81?) posted it here a while ago, and it prompted a very thought-provoking discussion.


Actually i did earlier this year. But there are numerous stories that this happened to that we all have forgotten about. I've linked a podcast from NPR about this phenomenon.
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As part of a mixed family  
B in ALB : 10/6/2015 3:53 pm : link
I have no tolerance for racism. Joking or not. There's some degree of hate and ignorance there. Sorry but I have no sympathy for her at all.
RE: the Sacco bitch  
Tesla : 10/6/2015 3:53 pm : link
In comment 12530418 UConn4523 said:
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is a real piece of shit, huh?


No, she's just someone who had her life ruined by an awkward attempt at humor. Here's what the guy who ruined her life had to say after finally getting to meet her in person:

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And, as it turned out, Justine Sacco is not a racist monster. She is a kind and canny woman who threw back cocktails, ate delicately, and spoke expertly about software. She was friendly, very funny, instantly relatable, and very plainly not a cruel sicko.


But it's awesome to judge people we don't know because of something they said in social media and turn them into monster to prove what righteous warriors we are.

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Greg  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 3:55 pm : link
The worst part is that she actually sent it to less than 200 followers. The context of the stupid joke was lost when it was forwarded.
RE: RE: the Sacco bitch  
UConn4523 : 10/6/2015 3:56 pm : link
In comment 12530424 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 12530418 UConn4523 said:


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is a real piece of shit, huh?



Because she made a tasteless joke?


Yeah, maybe if she said it to a couple friends and not to the whole world on Twitter. Someone who does that doesn't get sympathy from me. She likely means it.
B  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 3:56 pm : link
I don't tolerate racism either but I will not judge a person by one remark.
RE: As part of a mixed family  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 3:56 pm : link
In comment 12530519 B in ALB said:
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I have no tolerance for racism. Joking or not. There's some degree of hate and ignorance there. Sorry but I have no sympathy for her at all.


Some degree of hate? Really? You think that dumbass comment is "hate"? And it was serious enough that she should lose her job, get death threats, etc?
not sure why anyone would think that's a good idea  
UConn4523 : 10/6/2015 3:57 pm : link
regardless of private message or not. She's an idiot for posting that and I don't feel bad for her.
I can't fathom saying  
B in ALB : 10/6/2015 3:58 pm : link
or typing that kind of madness in an attempt to be humorous. Not to mention her comments about Brits and the UK. Just no need for that kind of ignorance. Guess I'm weird that way.
I have been thinking some of the same things about these sites  
Matt M. : 10/6/2015 4:00 pm : link
the last couple of weeks. I think it is a conflict of interests for sports leagues to take their advertising money. Likewise, I think it is in poor taste for sports radio to be constantly advertising sports gambling sites (they also do ads for poker sites, etc.).
As for Sacco  
Matt M. : 10/6/2015 4:01 pm : link
I remember when that came out. It wasn't funny or in good taste than and it isn't now.
RE: I can't fathom saying  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:01 pm : link
In comment 12530540 B in ALB said:
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or typing that kind of madness in an attempt to be humorous. Not to mention her comments about Brits and the UK. Just no need for that kind of ignorance. Guess I'm weird that way.


No, you're just a hysteric who's blowing something exceedingly minor completely out of proportion.
Nope. Not a hysteric at all.  
B in ALB : 10/6/2015 4:03 pm : link
I'm quite calm and confident in having no sympathy in this case.

Hysterics will come out in a couple weeks if Syracuse doesn't beat UVA.
now you're just speaking nonsense  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:04 pm : link
Your local high school JV team could beat UVA. Rest easy on that one.
regarding Sacco  
sshin05 : 10/6/2015 4:04 pm : link
Sacco is a nobody. She was a PR rep for a firm and she herself had barely any followers on twitter. A dude who had something against her employer, saw her bad/tasteless joke tweet and decided to retweet to his thousands of followers. No matter what she said, what she got wasn't deserved.
Enjoy it now, though  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:05 pm : link
because we're going to kick the everloving shit out of Cuse in basketball
I fully expect Cuse to shit the bed  
B in ALB : 10/6/2015 4:05 pm : link
And me to lose my fucking mind.
I'm not sure why so many people put fantasy football  
MetsAreBack : 10/6/2015 4:05 pm : link
in the same conversation as Fanduel and DraftKings.

One is played among friends and co-workers, usually for minimal money and for bragging rights - the money and number of participants immaterial.

The other is organized gambling, with no more skill involved than picking teams and spreads.
You can't be a Public Relations professional  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/6/2015 4:06 pm : link
and also tell AIDS/africa jokes in a public forum. Pick one.
RE: I fully expect Cuse to shit the bed  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:08 pm : link
In comment 12530571 B in ALB said:
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And me to lose my fucking mind.


We barely squeaked by Bill & Bitch, who aren't even all that good in FCS. A unranked Boise State completely humiliated us on our home field. The team is finally quitting on Detective Mike - have you heard that he used to be a cop? Dear god I wish he had never left the force to go into coaching.
I agree  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 4:08 pm : link
it wasn't funny and was in poor taste. However, she wasn't a public figure and apparently has a poor sense of humor. She sent a stupid joke to 150 friends/followers and her life was ruined. It hardly seems like justice to me.
The Boise State game was so bad that BSU players called it  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:10 pm : link
"A scrimmage"
Bill & Bitch  
B in ALB : 10/6/2015 4:17 pm : link
That's pretty good. Hadn't heard that one.
it's old Hoo slang  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:21 pm : link
But, in our oh-so-sensitive current environment, it's now verboten because it demeans women or something. Whatever. Most B&B students are so damned high-strung anyway, pretty much anything would set them off. Talk about a pressure cooker - I applied to both schools, but the atmosphere around that place is frightening, a ton of people who get anxiety attacks if their grades slip a point or two.
Hmmm  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 4:23 pm : link
My wife is a W&M alum.
then she'll know what I'm talking about  
Greg from LI : 10/6/2015 4:25 pm : link
It's a helluva school, but I didn't want to take my education quite that seriously.

Of course, the path my life has followed is probably a cautionary tale for what happens then, so I guess I was screwed either way.
She has many times  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/6/2015 4:27 pm : link
There was a lot of pressure. I had a somewhat different experience at a SUNY. :)
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