NFT: Where is Matt Harvey?

For Harvey's sake and the Mets sake hopefully it's immaturity. More likely it's a bigger issue than that.

He fucked up, owned up to it, apologized to his teammates. It's time to move onto bigger things...like Kershaw.

I mean the media and ten papers follow these guys around 162 games a year. I don't recall any issues with the media and the way people act you would think this guy is out every night, beating up women and children, and popping off his 45 in the parking lot telling people to come at him. Lol. Victor Cruz's fianc�e just shed some light on him that proves he is ten times worst of a human being than anything Harvey's ever done. I heard from the horses mouth deGrom actually goes out WAY more than Harvey and is generally getting back to the hotel at 4-5 in the morning. Neither has ever been caught out but we assume Harvey is because he gained weight and must be a bad guy?

I just don't get any of it. And to Shecky's earlier point.... Yes we've needed a few confident, almost cocky players, on this team for some time now. Generally these personality types don't always rub people the right way. You generally can't have it both ways though.

When Harvey gets caught selling heroine, gets a DUI, or assaults somebody... I'll be the first to criticize. But missing one practice, owning up to it and apologizing and giving tommy John the finger don't bother me.

That a boy Z!

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In comment 12532221 Torrag said:

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That a boy Z!

Fuck you, you little bitch.

BBI asks Torrag for his Mets thoughts, will be its first. But we all appreciate you showing up for the postseason 2 months prior with your fresh Mets hat and fresh Pom Poms. Go Mets right buddy!?

Eh, it could be worse he wasn't in a school yard or anything. LOL.

Just in time for lunch too.

Everyone send him $5 bucks and an application so you can be admitted to the Z approved Mets poster roster. LOL.

We get it. The Mets are good bro. Thanks for joining the party. Who will it be next year? Maybe the up and coming twins? The Cubs should be good for a while. Maybe Go Cubbies??? Go flavor of the month!!! whhoooo. Please give us your unfiltered Mets opinions. We are waiting on baited breath!! I know I am!

that this is another distraction caused by Harvey before their first playoff appearance since 2006. Personally I am just surprised how someone could miss practice days before their first ever playoff game regardless of whether or not he was pitching.

...if you post last in an argument you win. It's quality not quantity. You're a sad cliche with your blind fandom.

take this too seriously sometimes.

In comment 12532299 Jay on the Island said:

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that this is another distraction caused by Harvey before their first playoff appearance since 2006. Personally I am just surprised how someone could miss practice days before their first ever playoff game regardless of whether or not he was pitching.

This. It's really as simple as this. There's no reason for it to get into some massive back and forth about it. Let's move on and revisit this the next time he expectedly screws up, lol :-)

Rob in Rockaway with nailing the season prediction with exactly 90 wins? Good Job!

I thought I have a chance with my 92 win prediction but the Mets kind lost their grove at the end there.
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In comment 12532410 PhiPsi125 said:

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In comment 12532299 Jay on the Island said: Quote: that this is another distraction caused by Harvey before their first playoff appearance since 2006. Personally I am just surprised how someone could miss practice days before their first ever playoff game regardless of whether or not he was pitching. This. It's really as simple as this. There's no reason for it to get into some massive back and forth about it. Let's move on and revisit this the next time he expectedly screws up, lol :-)

My issue with Torrag has nothing to do with Harvey. The guy has had a hard on for me since he showed up around here. Probably found a picture of me on Twitter or MMO or something and can't help himself. I'd be flattered but I don't fly that way unfortunately.

That puts you squarely in the cross hairs. It's like shooting fish in a barrel you're so obvious about it.

Just win baby. Harvey's an ace and we should lock him up long term in a year or two as long as his health checks out. Even when he loses a few mph on his fastball down the road, he'll be a very good pitcher. Four plus pitches, control and knows how to pitch (and that part will continue to improve).

Ignore the drama. Just win.

...ever. He's the protytype Boras client. He will not leave dollar one on the table. As others have surmised you let him maximize his value then move him for a haul of assets.

I do not want to get into an argument but you really do seem to have a habit of arguing about anyone who says anything negative about the Mets. I consider DMM the most unbiased Mets fan on the site and I have seen you argue with him on numerous topics throughout the season. It's great that you are so passionate about the Mets just try not to be so defensive of them.

about anyone = with anyone.

Thanks for the advice. I'm good though. Torrag's issue is completely different trust me.

In comment 12532767 raever said:

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That puts you squarely in the cross hairs. It's like shooting fish in a barrel you're so obvious about it.

Thanks for crawling out of the woodwork every time there's a chance. Your consistent if nothing else.

As for the Harvey situation, we are pretty divided here so it's not like I'm the only person here who thinks the vast majority of his evilness is completely overblown nonsense. Am I overly optimistic at times? Absolutely(clearly I had plenty to be optimistic about) but there are also the same whiny bitch overreacters that fly off the handle every time there's a remote chance that is far more grating.

Good advice but your wasting your breath. He doesn't get it and he never will.

"Haul of assets is fucking stupid unless you are referring to 2018. If we decide to trade him before the 2018 season, sure we would get a "haul" back... Hell if you trade him at the DEADLINE in 2018 you still get a very good blue chip piece or two back. Trading a young, top 10 pitcher ace, controllable for three full more years plus maybe a fourth with the QO or a first round pick is worth more than any team could afford, unless we are talking Trout types which would never, ever happen.

Lol

In comment 12533179 PhiPsi125 said:

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Lol

Apologies. lol. None of it was meant towards you of course.

All is forgiven come game time Friday.

In comment 12533186 ZGiants98 said:

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In comment 12533179 PhiPsi125 said: Quote: Lol Apologies. lol. None of it was meant towards you of course.

No worries...i never thought so. It's all good.

In comment 12533205 Torrag said:

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All is forgiven come game time Friday.

Yeah, no kidding lol. Although it wasn't my intention. We can all disagree with each other and have good discussion...that's what makes this place great. This place would kinda suck if we all agreed on everything haha. No need for this stuff to get personal and nasty...it's just a game after all.

LGM!!!

win in 4, normally I'm not confident and tend to the pessimistic side (so take that for whatever kind of omen you want), but the last time out Harvey, deGrom, and Thor were nasty.

I'm confident the bats wake up and maybe lose a Kershaw start, but that's it.

Ron Darling at PNC. Asked him re: Warthen quote via @MarcCarig �There were a lot of boys on that �86 team that didn�t make practice, either"

Anthony Rieber ‏@therealarieber 20m20 minutes ago
Ron Darling: "It's really hard for me to criticize. Half our team didn't make the parade."

Anthony Rieber ‏@therealarieber 14m14 minutes ago
86 Met Ron Darling on why he won't criticize Harvey: "We had guys who barely showed up to games.�

Doesnt back you for missing the workout, there are other things going on that the public doesn't know. The story will come out in the future. David Wright doesn't throw people under the bus without good reasons. I am trying to remember what he said when Mejia was suspended the second time in the year. I wonder if he said something when Valespin acted out.

In comment 12533241 ZGiants98 said:

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Anthony Rieber ‏@therealarieber 20m20 minutes ago Ron Darling: "It's really hard for me to criticize. Half our team didn't make the parade."

I don't know what everyone's reasons were but I know Doc's was because he was too messed up from blowing lines and downing booze all night the night before and he was too paranoid to leave his room for the parade. So.. not really the type of road I'd want Harvey heading down.

Maybe point out that was a different era and the climate in and around the game has changed but noooo......

I posted three tweets. The end. Read it how you will.

Wright doesn't care for Harvey. He even went passive aggressive on Harvey for the Jeter thing, and not just once but twice. That being said it doesn't really matter. Not everyone has to like each other to accomplish things in life.

The comments by Darling are really irrelevant in this situation.

In comment 12533532 Jay on the Island said:

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The comments by Darling are really irrelevant in this situation.

Its irrelevant to share Darling's comments that he spoke about in Pittsburgh before the game tonight when it involved our star pitcher? Ok Jay.

you find any information to try to validate your argument and then you state it as fact. Ok so Darling said players were late all the time 29 years ago what does that have to do with Harvey missing practice days before his first playoff game creating another distraction?

I state it as fact? What the fuck are talking about. I posted three tweets about Darlings's comments. The end. How you read them is your problem.

According to the Daily News, They report that Harvey was out with friends drinking and watching Monday Night Football in New York City on Monday night.

�He had a couple of cocktails and a couple of glasses of wine,� an employee of the bar told the Daily News. �He wasn�t drunk or anything. He was out of there by 11 p.m.�

Quite the rager...

The retreat of a small mind.

Darling should have provided context for the remarks. You know 30 years ago it was a different game etc. Perhaps he did I don't follow his twitter. You can be sure if he did Z wouldn't include it.

Ok fucktard. I offered no opinion one way or the other. Darling made some comments tonight about...you know... The exact title of this thread and I shared. Personally if I offered an opinion, the parade thing didn't make much sense to me, but that's what Darling said. You don't like it. Take it up with him.

Wonderful, so now I have one dude with a fetish for me and has had a hard on for months and some moron resembling 2012 who can't put coherent thoughts together. Fantastic.

You're a caricature of a fan. You never refute it but it bears repeating. Maybe someday the light will come on for you but I doubt it.

Says the guy who became a Mets fan two months ago. Torrrag bringing the LOLZ before bed time. Thanks buddy.

Torrg... Maybe in another life?
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