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Headhunter : 10/7/2015 8:47 am
Exhibition game tonight.
Don't remember being this excited  
Headhunter : 10/7/2015 8:49 am : link
since Ewing made his Garden debut.
I'm not sure how good this team will be  
BeerFridge : 10/7/2015 9:02 am : link
but it is nice to have a young player we can try to develop and could be a building block. The city is starving for the Knicks to be fun again.
is this game televised?  
Italianju : 10/7/2015 9:15 am : link
I dont get MSG, but if its televised somewhere im guessing i can find it on the internet somewhere.
They have to bump this latvian rap for Porz in the garden at least  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/7/2015 9:15 am : link
one time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhhSFKgMhlo
RE: is this game televised?  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 10:35 am : link
In comment 12531733 Italianju said:
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I dont get MSG, but if its televised somewhere im guessing i can find it on the internet somewhere.


It is on MSG, Italian use the MSG Go app, free to use as long as you have optimum
Actualy excited for this  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 10:36 am : link
sounds like POrzingis is going to start...Galloway or Grant will start at the 2 with Afflalo out...

i would expect Calderon Galloway Melo Porz Lopez to be the starting 5...

First bench 5 Grant Sasha Williams Oquinn Seraphin
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djm : 10/7/2015 10:47 am : link


It's going to be an exciting season.  
PhiPsi125 : 10/7/2015 10:54 am : link
Hard to pin exactly where they will be in the pack of the East but at least we have a direction now. I think they will be better than many people expect but that may just be my hopeful optimism.
Anyone know if the game televised on MSG or elswhere?  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 11:12 am : link
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MSG has the game  
B in ALB : 10/7/2015 11:15 am : link
Rangers and Knicks tonight. Hopefully both will take the sting out from the debacle at Yankee Stadium last night.
New Dleague coach  
DanMetroMan : 10/7/2015 11:26 am : link
Mike Miller (born c. 1964) is an American basketball coach who is currently an assistant coach with the Austin Toros of the NBA D-League. In 2012–13, he was an assistant at UC–Riverside.[1] In 2012, he was dismissed as head coach of Eastern Illinois.[2] He was previously the head coach at Texas State University–San Marcos, and was an assistant at Kansas State[3] from 2000 to 2005.

In October 2013, he was named an assistant coach at the Austin Toros.[4]

Early life[edit]
Mike Miller graduated from Monmouth High School in Monmouth, Illinois. After graduating, he went on to play basketball at East Texas State, where he was a part of the team that won the 1984 Lone Star Conference championship. He graduated from East Texas State in 1987.



Affalo won't play tonight or Friday due to a hammy
Lol  
DanMetroMan : 10/7/2015 11:30 am : link
The Knicks + Westchester Knicks combined to go 27-105!!!!!
Looking forward to this  
Torrag : 10/7/2015 11:30 am : link
I'd just caution fans to be patient. This young man is going to need some development. Ewing was much more prepared to have an instant impact especially on the defensive end than Porz. In general this is my favorite Knicks roster entering a season in some years.
The thing that Porzingis has going for him  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 11:33 am : link
is he is coming onto a team that already has a go to scorer, so there really is no pressure on him to carry the team, of course he is in New York so he is under a microscope, but having Melo healthy is huge for him..

He doesnt have to come out and score 20PPG and carry the team like most top picks have to do...

I  
DanMetroMan : 10/7/2015 11:34 am : link
don't think anyone realistically is expecting Porzingis to have a "Ewing-like" impact this year. Patrick Ewing was 23 years old as a rookie coming off an incredible college career
Porz wont have a Ewing impact  
Deej : 10/7/2015 11:43 am : link
Agree. Ewing was not just a #1 pick, he was one of those #1 picks where these days you'd talk about tanking for him before the season started (or getting the lottery implemented and fixed).

Porz wont be that. But I dont see why he cant be Steve Novak with more defense this season. Stand 15-3 range and pop jumpers. Either you pull the 4 away from the hoop (opening driving lanes and rebounding opportunities) OR he gets covered by a 3, which means Melo can probably exploit the 4 in isos. And on defense, just stand tall, keep your arms up, and block shots. It was effective in the summer league.

But in any event, Dirk's rookie years wasnt anything. 8.2 and 3.4 with empty peripherals in 20.4 minutes, .405/.206/.773. He exploded in his 2nd season.
Dan you give the average fan too much credit  
raever : 10/7/2015 11:43 am : link
I expect to hear a lot of stupid comments about Porzingis in the early stages.
thanks 16...  
Italianju : 10/7/2015 11:46 am : link
i live in MD so i dont have optimum. I have league pass but i dont think they do preseason games. But im sure ill be able to find it somewhere.
I promise you he will be more than Novak with defense this season.  
manh george : 10/7/2015 12:15 pm : link
The difference? We haven't seen much of it yet, but probably will starting tonight: Zinger coming off a screen for an open 12-15 foot bank shot, that can never be blocked.

That is ultimately going to be a very important part of his arsenal that will be basically unstoppable as long as he is hitting it. It also plays very well into the triangle, as I understand it (not that well). He did it only a couple of times in summer league, but from what I have read, it is something he has been working on for a while now. I will be watching for it tonight and during the rest of pre-season.
Knicks will have  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 12:22 pm : link
two 7 footers in their starting line up, when is the last time the Knicks had that?

If Porzingis can be just an average shot blocker, teams will have trouble scoring in the paint on the Knicks..
Probably 1980 or 1981  
Phil in LA : 10/7/2015 12:25 pm : link
when they had Cartwright and Webster as the Twin Towers. Webster was injured during `79, Cartwright's rookie year.
Didn't Cartwright and Ewing play together his rookie season?  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 12:29 pm : link
Her was 7 ft
RE: MSG has the game  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 12:29 pm : link
In comment 12532081 B in ALB said:
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Rangers and Knicks tonight. Hopefully both will take the sting out from the debacle at Yankee Stadium last night.


Thanks
RE: Didn't Cartwright and Ewing play together his rookie season?  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 12:31 pm : link
In comment 12532345 steve in ky said:
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Her was 7 ft


He was
1987, Cartwright started with Ewing at least once.  
manh george : 10/7/2015 12:34 pm : link
Didn't work.
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RE: I promise you he will be more than Novak with defense this season.  
Deej : 10/7/2015 12:35 pm : link
In comment 12532302 manh george said:
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The difference? We haven't seen much of it yet, but probably will starting tonight: Zinger coming off a screen for an open 12-15 foot bank shot, that can never be blocked.

That is ultimately going to be a very important part of his arsenal that will be basically unstoppable as long as he is hitting it. It also plays very well into the triangle, as I understand it (not that well). He did it only a couple of times in summer league, but from what I have read, it is something he has been working on for a while now. I will be watching for it tonight and during the rest of pre-season.


Hope you're right. Porz will hopefully be a big boon on spacing from the get go. That will only be the case if his shot falls. Because you cant close out on him -- he's too tall and gets his shot off decently quick.

On defense, I saw every minute of his summer league time. The blocks will 100% come. Off his man too -- not just weakside stuff. He had a very high foul rate though. Im hoping that it was more the chaos of the summer league where defenses didnt work and bigs were left out to hang.
Should be fun tonight.  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 12:38 pm : link
For the first time in awhile, there's a lot of positive energy surrounding the team.
RE: 1987, Cartwright started with Ewing at least once.  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12532361 manh george said:
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Didn't work. Link - ( New Window )


Yeah I remember them trying to use both of them for about a season or two but it not working out and trading Cartwright him for Oakley.
If Zinger can hit that mid-range bank shot...  
manh george : 10/7/2015 12:40 pm : link
it will be a thrill for Anthony. Space Zinger 10-12 feet from the center line on one side, and Anthony on the other side, and it gets really difficult to double Melo.
Game Time  
Deej : 10/7/2015 7:31 pm : link
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Sasha starts at SG.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 7:40 pm : link
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Melo with the touch  
jpkmets : 10/7/2015 7:45 pm : link
early
KP finally gets a shot  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 7:50 pm : link
and misses. Lopez looks good.
KP with a turnover, then a foul.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 7:54 pm : link
Looks a little nervous. Got in good position for a couple of shots though.
Melo is on fire  
Deej : 10/7/2015 7:58 pm : link
KP's foul wasnt a bad foul. Intentional because Calderon's attempt to draw the charge failed.

Defense is not good.
Who is this Rebecca Haarlow sideline reporter person?  
B in ALB : 10/7/2015 8:01 pm : link
She looks like Rocky Dennis.
Yes, defense  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:04 pm : link
needs some work. These Brazilian guys can shoot and pass.
KOQ looks good so far.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:05 pm : link
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Jose Calderon looks like my Uber driver  
Canton : 10/7/2015 8:09 pm : link
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Second team with some chemistry already  
Canton : 10/7/2015 8:12 pm : link
Like it. Like it!
There are no words to describe  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/7/2015 8:20 pm : link
How much i love the blue paint being back. It looks absolutely amazing. Im thrilled they went full retro with the darker blue and not that light blue shade that was making the rounds from a video game screen shot. This is a visual high. So many memories flooding back. This is how MSG is meant to look. I was never a fan of the orange. Man this looks amazing. I cant get over how much i love this. This makes me way more happy than it should. Im so fucking elated right now.
Williams with some jordan-esque hops!  
Canton : 10/7/2015 8:22 pm : link
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second team is looking good  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:24 pm : link
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KP with a great lefty block  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:30 pm : link
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KP with a long 3!  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:33 pm : link
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That's a nice stroke  
jpkmets : 10/7/2015 8:35 pm : link
from a big fella

Grant is gonna  
jpkmets : 10/7/2015 8:36 pm : link
be a nice player
Grant is looking good  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 8:37 pm : link
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Jerian Grant!  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 8:37 pm : link
Get that boy in the starting lineup - he's ready to go.
Grant does look good.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 8:38 pm : link
Early hits a 50-footer at the buzzer!
KP with another long 3.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 9:04 pm : link
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Wally's doing a decent job with Breen.  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 9:04 pm : link
Might be time to put Clyde out to pasture.
RE: Wally's doing a decent job with Breen.  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 9:06 pm : link
In comment 12533430 bceagle05 said:
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Might be time to put Clyde out to pasture.


Hate to say it, but I agree. Wally brings such a more recent perspective.
Wally is so much more informative  
Canton : 10/7/2015 9:07 pm : link
and he's close with the players, so he getting some good juice to report, during the broadcast.

I like him.
Clyde is more of a character now  
B in ALB : 10/7/2015 9:10 pm : link
His basketball analysis has taken a backseat to the jackets and word play.
RE: Wally's doing a decent job with Breen.  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12533430 bceagle05 said:
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Might be time to put Clyde out to pasture.


While the neophyte is quite auspicious he's no Clyde

Seriously he is doing a nice job but I still enjoy listing to Frazier
Maybe they can compromise  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 9:16 pm : link
with a three-man booth or something.
I loved Clyde as a player, but never as an analyst.  
yatqb : 10/7/2015 9:16 pm : link
More shtick than substance, imo. Wish I could be watching this with you guys.
never really watched KOQ before -  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 9:19 pm : link
he's good. Seraphin looks like more of a work in progress.
Love our front court depth going forward.  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 9:25 pm : link
Lopez, O'Quinn and Melo all have four-year commitments, Hernangomez coming in next year, and of course KP. Now Phil has to get to work on the backcourt - no real long-term answers outside of Grant.
Can tell already  
Canton : 10/7/2015 9:27 pm : link
this team's going to be easy to root for.
RE: I loved Clyde as a player, but never as an analyst.  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 9:28 pm : link
In comment 12533462 yatqb said:
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More shtick than substance, imo. Wish I could be watching this with you guys.


Sure there are better analysts but he is adequate enough for me. Lets face it, it's basketball it isn't that hard to follow along. However I like that he was one of the Knicks all time greats and I enjoy his stories from that perspective. The guy tells some interesting stories at times.
RE: Can tell already  
Deej : 10/7/2015 9:44 pm : link
In comment 12533482 Canton said:
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this team's going to be easy to root for.


Yeah. Good group.
Is this Wallys first game as a broadcaster for the Knicks?  
Canton : 10/7/2015 9:47 pm : link
He seems like a natural.
RE: Is this Wallys first game as a broadcaster for the Knicks?  
steve in ky : 10/7/2015 9:50 pm : link
In comment 12533511 Canton said:
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He seems like a natural.


I don't know but I'm guessing that he may have done some college games
I can already  
Jon in NYC : 10/7/2015 9:54 pm : link
tell that I am going to hate Derrick Williams.
RE: Is this Wallys first game as a broadcaster for the Knicks?  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 10:00 pm : link
In comment 12533511 Canton said:
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He seems like a natural.


He has been one of the hosts on their postgame show on MSG for the last couple of years. However, tonight he worked the game itself - first time for that so far as I am aware. He's been good on the postgame show.
box  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 10:03 pm : link
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KOQ  
Giantology : 10/7/2015 10:10 pm : link
rules.
RE: KOQ  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 10:14 pm : link
In comment 12533548 Giantology said:
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rules.


like I said ... my first time really watching him, and I was impressed. I won't be bummed if he gets the starting 4 slot over KP.
plus, Calderon and Sasha as a starting backcourt  
Del Shofner : 10/7/2015 10:15 pm : link
will clearly be defensively challenged, so I expect that to change as well. There's Afflalo, and both Galloway and Grant looked good tonight.
Trading Timmy Jr. for Grant  
bceagle05 : 10/7/2015 11:10 pm : link
and getting O'Quinn at 4 years/$16 million were two great moves by Phil. And Melo looked like his old self.
Afflalo will be the starter at the 2, period.  
manh george : 10/8/2015 12:20 am : link
The depth really is impressive. Galloway will be better than last year, but struggle to get minutes. Vujacic is smooth and big, has a handle and can shoot, though lacking o a bit on D. Early and Williams will fight to back up Melo--who will get hardly any time at the 4, and should be glad, in terms of wear and tear.

Up front, Seraphin will be fine at the backup 5--when was the last time we had a true backup center who can defend, rebound, and score a little? At the 4, Zinger can be brought along at a decent speed, because O'Quinn is a solid, true 4 who can eat up some minutes.

Fun, at least to me.

No, the front-line talent isn't world class, but the depth will lead to more wins than a lot of observers think.
Btw...  
manh george : 10/8/2015 12:25 am : link
using the last cap room on Seraphin and getting Vujacic at the minimum for the Schved role was a big plus. Two for the price of 1.
And my last comment for tonight:  
manh george : 10/8/2015 12:26 am : link
I'd be disappointed  
bceagle05 : 10/8/2015 12:38 am : link
if the starting backcourt was NOT Grant and Afflalo. They're the best two-way players of the group, and Grant is the only one who can break down the defense. Fisher's probably a better player than Calderon at this point.

Curious to see how KP plays in game two. Clearly he had some jitters tonight, which is to be expected.
Ok ok ok...ima calm down. Seriously tho...  
ChaChing : 10/8/2015 3:17 am : link
that was the highest basketball IQ ive seen NYK send out there in years and years. Yes, Bauru Brazil, yes the team D was mediocre. But there were more than a few flashes even when they moved the ball like crazy

In the mean time, I would have said I wanted Calderon off the bench since last year, but Grant I love. Dude reminded me a bit of Billups in terms of playing between getting his own good shot (not some JR shit) and running the O / making a great pass. And if not him, I'll take Galloway starting. Much too good on D compared to JC, where JC will be a GREAT SG off the bench with solid handle / passing (IMO not a great decision maker at PG, and poor at attacking the rim even with an open lane for some reason)

Lots of hustle, smart 2 man / 3 man games going given its a bunch of guys just thrown together (not just 1-on-1 shots tho the O isn't consistent / solid yet). They said in the broadcast Afflalo mentioned this team came to work earliest of any team he's been on, a month early...huge for Melo IMO. Also LOVE how Melo is taking KP under his wing. Think that is, aside from all out effort on D himself, something that will help him take another big step. FWIW tonight Melo took awesome shots all night...he was hot, but many solid smart shots

Then OQuinn, Lopez, likely AA, even Williams (in small doses, he's likely the 'new JR' in terms of decision making)...I haven't been this excited in a while
meanwhile, the cover of the Post is Derek Fisher and Matt Barnes' wife  
Del Shofner : 10/8/2015 8:01 am : link
- yuck. Well, I guess it's a juicy story.
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