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Stat on Giants offensive tempo and getting the ball out fast

Ten Ton Hammer : 10/7/2015 9:03 am
The other big issue the Bills have faced in their two losses is the tempo of the opposing offense. New England’s Tom Brady averaged just 1.99 seconds from snap to attempted throw, while Eli Manning beat that Sunday, throwing on average just 1.82 seconds after taking the snap, according to the analytics website Pro Football Focus.

Tom Brady  
gidiefor : Mod : 10/7/2015 9:05 am : link
"Anything you can do I can do better, I can do anything better than you"

- Eli Manning
Now that's some WCO there....  
Simms11 : 10/7/2015 9:06 am : link
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Count to 2 mississippi's.  
USAF NYG Fan : 10/7/2015 9:22 am : link
Tough to sack someone in that much time. Hell I don't know how a receiver gets open in that amount of time (minus screens of course).
But  
Toth029 : 10/7/2015 10:21 am : link
PFF said Eli wasn't very good that day!
Makes three OL look a lot bdtter  
ZogZerg : 10/7/2015 10:26 am : link
Than they are
RE: Makes three OL look a lot bdtter  
SGMen : 10/7/2015 10:29 am : link
In comment 12531929 ZogZerg said:
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Than they are
Absolutely! It is a MUST in today's NFL to get the ball out there. The RULES call for this time of game now. Brady showed us how to get a RING last year with that quick tempo offense with quick wideouts and big TE (Gronkowski).

I am really looking forward to seeing whether WR Victor Cruz can ever make it back and play this short game for us in the slot. We shall see!
The thing about the quick tempo...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/7/2015 11:27 am : link
is that it really limits what OBJ can do downfield. Slants, curls, digs, and fades but nothing that takes any time.

Opposing DB's have to love the tempo.

Thanks for sharing - I'd noticed the tempo but hadn't seen any stats about it.
RE: But  
geelabee : 10/7/2015 11:30 am : link
In comment 12531910 Toth029 said:
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PFF said Eli wasn't very good that day!


F these Co$k Suc$ers...41,000 career Yards later and almost 275 career TD passes later with 2 Super Bowl MVP...Eli is still no good...lol...PFF is just worthless noise...
It also takes a toll on the DL  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/7/2015 11:32 am : link
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It amazing that up-tempo  
mrvax : 10/7/2015 11:49 am : link
can really tire out a defense (even with player rotations when possible) but the Oline guys just keep plugging along.
like running the ball,  
GiantNatty : 10/7/2015 12:00 pm : link
quick release passes also sets up the deep stuff later in the game
A similar stat was shown last year  
ChaChing : 10/7/2015 12:22 pm : link
after our short W streak. The OL has been doing fine, but IMO it's significantly more about Eli getting the ball out. They still have to hold that initial block and are certainly improved from the last couple years, but still. This is the best way to beat the rush & help the OL (the main reason the make a change from the old O IMO)

Last year the first two games looked awful in part because of drops like this year. Only difference is Cruz had the most (so wouldn't get the PP treatment), tho LD, PP, RR, JJ, AW all added to it

Then come DAL & PHI it slowed back down. Only time we clicked was a drive going into half v DAL. Dunno what changed, and we played terrible teams over the W streak, but a huge turnaround

One other awesome stat mentioned I want to say early wk3 this yr is we've had very few 3 and outs. Not enough on it's own, but another big step in an O like this
Results  
shyster : 10/7/2015 12:34 pm : link
Giants punted six consecutive possessions from 2:22 remaining first half through 10:47 remaining fourth quarter.

Four of those were three and outs. Other two were 5/6 plays.
Who would've benefitted most from a change...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/7/2015 12:36 pm : link
IMO was Mario Williams. He was giving Newhouse fits with power and speed. Another half-second would have given him at least 3-4 hurries and any more than that he could have had a couple of hits/sacks.
In fact...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/7/2015 12:37 pm : link
I think if Beatty comes back healthy we might be able to see a return to the downfield passing attack.

Could it be that the stat line hurt the most by Beatty's injury is OBJ's?
RE: In fact...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/7/2015 12:40 pm : link
In comment 12532373 Dan in the Springs said:
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I think if Beatty comes back healthy we might be able to see a return to the downfield passing attack.

Could it be that the stat line hurt the most by Beatty's injury is OBJ's?


We haven't seen a lot of the downfield aggressive calls yet, so I think that's fair to say.

They were able to create big plays last year against talented, aggressive fronts like St. Louis last season. Right now, they may not think they can hold up in pass pro to take those shots.
From rewatching the game...  
Dan in the Springs : 10/7/2015 12:46 pm : link
it was clear to me that they did not have time on many snaps for anything longer to develop. Newhouse really struggled against Williams. The only times I saw him really stone Williams was when Williams tried to cut inside. Newhouse took those rushes away from him - was able to get his outside shoulder and keep him from turning upfield toward Eli. Whenever he went upfield with speed Newhouse was struggling to slow him down, and his bullrush was pretty effective as well.
This consisntent tempo and pattern is another reason....  
Torrag : 10/7/2015 1:09 pm : link
...the quick slant on the goalline was a bad decision. The DB's were acclimated to and expecting it. It was ripe to get jumped.
Seems to me that  
TMS : 10/7/2015 4:18 pm : link
this is an endorsement in our coaching staff ( who I love) changing the scheme to fit our personnel (which are not that great) and making it work. Good stuff.
RE: This consisntent tempo and pattern is another reason....  
Vanzetti : 10/7/2015 4:55 pm : link
In comment 12532454 Torrag said:
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...the quick slant on the goalline was a bad decision. The DB's were acclimated to and expecting it. It was ripe to get jumped.


It was not a great decision given the game context. But that INT is on Randle. Eli threw it exactly where he was supposed to. I don't know what Reuben was thinking because he made no effort to get the ball. Just let the DB take it.
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