than you. His partner was worse and I don't hear a peep. Going to be like this all year. A gaggle of bitches whining after wins about the same one or two players.
Ever think its easy to find errors and rip apart a guy's game when he plays the whole damn game? No probably not. Ever think its weird that there's endless whining about a guy who the coach wants on the ice the whole game against their best players? No probably not.
But you'll go down with your ship too. And it's all for nothin. So you can keep the complaints going even when we win on the road against the Cup champs, or you can just enjoy the win and look forward to the next game.
as much as it never really happened. I think the ref was bullied into the review, and the review team probably told him that it was unreviewable. I mean, I guess if Toews had put it in they could have over turned, but they were never going to be able to over turn that. Because video does not show the moment the ref intended to blow his whistle.
It was an unreviewable play that was somehow reviewed
the inevitable push back from the Hawks, the game looked excellent from our side from the drop of the puck. Great effort and speed. No penalties. If Crawford didnt shut the door we could have had many more goals.
Klein and Yandle were the only defenseman who did anything noteworthy tonight.
McDonagh had a really bad turnover in the first. Has to play better.
Girardi was awful, but had a couple of nice plays in the third - one I think saved a goal. His pass at Yandle's hip bone in the middle of the defensive zone was just unbelievably clueless and was consistently beaten to pucks.
AV did mix up the D at points. Pretty obvious the Rangers were working off some rust - the top six forwards were bad outside a couple of scoring chances. The time was pretty evenly split among all four lines.
Take the two points and move on. Bullshit they start with three in four nights.
While reading about Seth complaining about perfectly legitimate complaints about certain players.
So a guy who knows about hockey watched one single clearing attempt that was stopped by a good forecheck play by a d man who played 25 minutes and you enjoy the constant bitch and moan every thread about the same fucking guy. A player who will play and play and play every game and won't be leaving the team any time soon. You enjoy that shit? You going to enjoy reading whines for years to come? When the guy scores a winning goal or plays a dominating stretch of games this year (which he will), are people going to talk about how great he's playing or what a great goal he scored? You seem like a decently reasonable dude....you can't possibly want to hear the same shit everyday about the scapegoat of the month.
Yes when he plays well and makes big plays that will be acknowledged
Unlike you who are trying to suggest he didn't suck tonight when he did. But it's game one and there is rust to knock off. Dan's coming off a brutal playoff where he was a lot more bad than good so let's hope he can turn it around soon.
Was anyone else really surprised McDonagh wasn't out for the game after the puck to the what looked like the throat? After last year I assumed they would be absurdly cautious.
I think he played worse than he can. I think there are other D men who played worse. But I don't think anyone played badly enough to lose. In general I think it's pathetic that fans watched this game where there were notable lackluster games played by top players both on the front and back end, and the complaining gets pointed at one guy. This happens all the time, even when the team is really fuckin good. People watch a game and focus on the guy they really want to suck so they can prove their point by talking about whatever bad play that guy made. The guy's own partner who is the best defenseman we have and one of the best in the league, was borderline bad tonight.
But the main thing is....WE WON THE GAME. And looked pretty damn solid overall. Why ruin it with the crying about the scapegoat? Just enjoy the damn win against a great team on opening night. Stop ruining it for yourselves by crying so much about a player who is not leaving. He's here. We're good. Enjoy it while we are.
Was anyone else really surprised McDonagh wasn't out for the game after the puck to the what looked like the throat? After last year I assumed they would be absurdly cautious.
I was shocked he was right back out there. But then I remembered there's no reason to be shocked. Its McD and it's hockey.
It wasn't. It was a sloppy first game and that isn't unexpected. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the win while being realistic about the individual perfomances. Enjoyment and criticism are not mutually exclusive. This seems to be a trend amidst BBI arguments. Are all you happy go lucky fuckers on prozac or something?
There's absolutely nothing whatsoever with analyzing the game and the players...but then it all becomes a joke when there is a focus on one guy. It rings hollow. There are other guys who were invisible or sloppy at times and people just love complaining about the same guy. Every single time. There's no way you nor other Ranger fan watches this team play and thinks he is just an awful player. He's the scapegoat du jour. All eyes on Dan Girardi like he's Tom Poti or Valeri Kamensky. THere's been and will be plenty of awful or disappointing players. Plenty of time to devote that angst towards players who don't try or suck on a regular basis. If one guy plays 10 minutes more than any forward on the team, you're going to find lots of mistakes.
...because it is a trend continuing from last season. When you're top pair defenseman is bad it's kind of important no? People are going to talk about it. Obviously as Rangers fans we want him to do well. It's not a coincidence so many people saw the same thing.
not a coincidence at all. Once the snowball gets rolling...
As for the trend since last year, I just wonder over and over when these threads get bombarded by the constant Girardi obsession...How exactly does a team do so damn well with someone who's such a detriment playing so much? How good would we be with damn near anyone else out there playing the most minutes on the team, and what the hell is wrong with our coach that he doesn't see what Joe Shmo on HF Boards sees so clearly?
we played with a one goal lead in the third. Also, after Stoll lost his first faceoff, Moore should have taken the second.
agreed. When we play teams that aren't as good, we need to continue with foot on the gas and make them stop us on their end. I get playing a little conservative against the Hawks but its a recipe for disaster.
RE: Awesome first period, second and third not so much
Is he a top-pairing defenseman? No. That's the point - he isn't good enough to log those kind of minutes anymore, nor to play against opposing top lines.
You're right, due to his contract he isn't going anywhere if if the Rangers wanted to deal him. That doesn't mean he should be playing 25 minutes, and your appeals to authority remain as hollow as ever.
And someone noted this during game on this thread too - while the Hawks had the Rangers pinned in their own end for long stretches, the Rangers did a good job of preventing high quality scoring chances. On the other side, the Rangers generated a lot of quality scoring chances despite not getting a lot of possession time in Chicago's zone.
And someone noted this during game on this thread too - while the Hawks had the Rangers pinned in their own end for long stretches, the Rangers did a good job of preventing high quality scoring chances. On the other side, the Rangers generated a lot of quality scoring chances despite not getting a lot of possession time in Chicago's zone.
This is why I'm so good at Fifa. Quality shots over quantity of shots.
Girardi and Kuhn aren't even close - maybe you can make a Diehl comparison. Girardi was an excellent, top-pairing defenseman for a long time who I don't think is close to being what he was 3-5 years ago. And it isn't that anyone's saying he doesn't belong in the league, but his usage outweighs his performance at this stage. I think he's the fourth best defensemen on the team and think his usage should reflect that. That isn't some awful insult to Girardi.
I've harped on him too much the past few weeks, and it's unfair to pile on after last night - I don't expect that effort to be repeated (and I wasn't all that happy with most of the team's performance either outside of the first period).
Boyle was last year's whipping boy and I constantly defended him. The idea that me (or anyone else) is just piling on is wrong. I'd love to see 2008-2012 Girardi again.
it's also not an insult to Girardi to acknowledge that he became
a mainstay in an entirely different system under Torts, one which accentuated his virtues and minimized his flaws. He simply isn't well suited for the system they play now. If the Rangers were still sagging back and blocking shots all night, he'd look much better.
the Rangers take fewer shots than the could, and instead try to set up for great shots. Part of it is just AV's style and the fact that he was hired specifically to implement the "beautiful game" style. Part of it is personnel -- prior to this season I'd say we had more speed/skill and less size. And if you have less size and no booming shooters, shooting for rebounds is less impactful.
Greg: I thought that as a Rangers, as well as Giants, season
3rd period but I would describe it as anything but sloppy. Rangers definitely played it conservatively but I can see why against that team in their building on an emotional night.
As for the goal that wasnt, Stephen Walkom (SVP & Dir of Officiating) did a nice job explaining why it wasnt a goal on NHL Network this a.m. Said that not only did the referee lose sight of the puck but he was in the act of bringing the whistle to his mouth to blow it dead. thats what he needed Toronto to confirm.
Don't care either. Maybe you really were a season ticket holder, maybe it's bullshit. I lean towards bullshit since I've never seen you darken a Rangers thread before. If your post was any indication, your hockey contributions will suck just as much as your football posts.
is the best Giants/Rangers/Girardi comp. No one is happy to see his decline after he's been such an important guy, but there's just no way he should be on the top pair anymore.
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BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2015 11:48 pm : link : reply
Was anyone else really surprised McDonagh wasn't out for the game after the puck to the what looked like the throat? After last year I assumed they would be absurdly cautious.
I've never heard of Rothman, but he also notes on twitter:
- Girardi now the 10th NYR dman to play in 10 seasons for us.
- Dating back to 2/6/2010, Rangers are 151-1-9 when leading after 2 period. Link - ( New Window )
Was anyone else really surprised McDonagh wasn't out for the game after the puck to the what looked like the throat? After last year I assumed they would be absurdly cautious.
Maybe they felt he needed to learn a lesson about being careful with his stick around Hank's neck protector.
Ever think its easy to find errors and rip apart a guy's game when he plays the whole damn game? No probably not. Ever think its weird that there's endless whining about a guy who the coach wants on the ice the whole game against their best players? No probably not.
But you'll go down with your ship too. And it's all for nothin. So you can keep the complaints going even when we win on the road against the Cup champs, or you can just enjoy the win and look forward to the next game.
McDonagh had a really bad turnover in the first. Has to play better.
Girardi was awful, but had a couple of nice plays in the third - one I think saved a goal. His pass at Yandle's hip bone in the middle of the defensive zone was just unbelievably clueless and was consistently beaten to pucks.
AV did mix up the D at points. Pretty obvious the Rangers were working off some rust - the top six forwards were bad outside a couple of scoring chances. The time was pretty evenly split among all four lines.
Take the two points and move on. Bullshit they start with three in four nights.
So a guy who knows about hockey watched one single clearing attempt that was stopped by a good forecheck play by a d man who played 25 minutes and you enjoy the constant bitch and moan every thread about the same fucking guy. A player who will play and play and play every game and won't be leaving the team any time soon. You enjoy that shit? You going to enjoy reading whines for years to come? When the guy scores a winning goal or plays a dominating stretch of games this year (which he will), are people going to talk about how great he's playing or what a great goal he scored? You seem like a decently reasonable dude....you can't possibly want to hear the same shit everyday about the scapegoat of the month.
But the main thing is....WE WON THE GAME. And looked pretty damn solid overall. Why ruin it with the crying about the scapegoat? Just enjoy the damn win against a great team on opening night. Stop ruining it for yourselves by crying so much about a player who is not leaving. He's here. We're good. Enjoy it while we are.
I was shocked he was right back out there. But then I remembered there's no reason to be shocked. Its McD and it's hockey.
And then demand his trade because he doesn't have a NMC.
And then demand his trade because he doesn't have a NMC.
haha. Love the Klein.
yes. There ya go.
As for the trend since last year, I just wonder over and over when these threads get bombarded by the constant Girardi obsession...How exactly does a team do so damn well with someone who's such a detriment playing so much? How good would we be with damn near anyone else out there playing the most minutes on the team, and what the hell is wrong with our coach that he doesn't see what Joe Shmo on HF Boards sees so clearly?
Let's Go Rangers. Nice start.
agreed. When we play teams that aren't as good, we need to continue with foot on the gas and make them stop us on their end. I get playing a little conservative against the Hawks but its a recipe for disaster.
Agreed. Clearing issues in the 3rd reminded me of one of the down areas in a relatively positive 2014-15. A lot of positives in the 1st.
You're right, due to his contract he isn't going anywhere if if the Rangers wanted to deal him. That doesn't mean he should be playing 25 minutes, and your appeals to authority remain as hollow as ever.
How can TC, Spags and AV be so stupid because they can't see what is so obvious to BBI?
How can TC, Spags and AV be so stupid because they can't see what is so obvious to BBI?
Well, at last he's not the Tanner Glass of the Rangers.
Wait.
This is why I'm so good at Fifa. Quality shots over quantity of shots.
I've harped on him too much the past few weeks, and it's unfair to pile on after last night - I don't expect that effort to be repeated (and I wasn't all that happy with most of the team's performance either outside of the first period).
Boyle was last year's whipping boy and I constantly defended him. The idea that me (or anyone else) is just piling on is wrong. I'd love to see 2008-2012 Girardi again.
As for the goal that wasnt, Stephen Walkom (SVP & Dir of Officiating) did a nice job explaining why it wasnt a goal on NHL Network this a.m. Said that not only did the referee lose sight of the puck but he was in the act of bringing the whistle to his mouth to blow it dead. thats what he needed Toronto to confirm.
BrettNYG10 : 10/7/2015 11:48 pm : link : reply
Was anyone else really surprised McDonagh wasn't out for the game after the puck to the what looked like the throat? After last year I assumed they would be absurdly cautious.
My thoughts exactly.
I've never heard of Rothman, but he also notes on twitter:
- Girardi now the 10th NYR dman to play in 10 seasons for us.
- Dating back to 2/6/2010, Rangers are 151-1-9 when leading after 2 period.
Link - ( New Window )
Doesn't include the playoffs, does it?
Maybe they felt he needed to learn a lesson about being careful with his stick around Hank's neck protector.
No.