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Greg Hardy appears contrite and humble as he returns

Dunedin81 : 10/7/2015 11:06 am
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“I love seeing Tom Brady, he’s cool as crap,” Hardy said. “Have you seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game, all her friends come to the game. One of my favorite games of the year, guys.”

Asked what he would say to those who feel he should not be on the team because he was found guilty by a judge of domestic violence, Hardy replied, “God bless you. That’s the message.”

What he learned most about himself through the ordeal, Hardy said, was that he’s a “really good pass rusher when I put my mind to it.” His central concerns now, he said, are winning and getting sacks, adding that, “I’m really good at that.”

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Just when I thought the Pats were going to come out flat..  
donnyfootball : 10/7/2015 11:58 am : link
Greg Hardy speaks up, my man.
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Dunedin81 : 10/7/2015 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12532224 riceneggs said:
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth


You registered just to write that?
If only he could be a model citizen  
MotownGIANTS : 10/7/2015 12:08 pm : link
and get do illicit drugs, get underage hookers, commit date rape, cheat on his wife, etc etc etc

Then he be the ideal NYG.


Damn  
Torrag : 10/7/2015 12:11 pm : link
"Somebody better just give him(Jerry Jones) a Super Bowl trophy before someone get hurt!"
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riceneggs : 10/7/2015 12:12 pm : link
In comment 12532261 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 12532224 riceneggs said:


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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth



You registered just to write that?


I didn't register today, so whats your point. I've been on this board for 5 years. just picked a new name after the upgrade/crash/whatever happened that made us reregister

hopes that answers your question.

and like I was saying, one of the reasons why Ray Rice and Hardy are viewed differently is because people feel sympathy for Janay, not so much for the other chic.

Rice punched his fiancé in the face, her head hit a pole and he drug her out of an elevator like he didn't care.

Hardy tossed a chic (that was high on cocaine) on a futon.

That's a big difference to me. And I live in Charlotte and know dudes that smashed ol girl, at the same time.

I'm not justifying his actions, just sayin
its film vs. no film  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 12:17 pm : link
and its clear as day. Rice may be done as a top tier RB but he would have been scooped in the preseason otherwise.
RE: its film vs. no film  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 12:19 pm : link
In comment 12532308 UConn4523 said:
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and its clear as day. Rice may be done as a top tier RB but he would have been scooped in the preseason otherwise.


true!

Mods....This isn't bannable?  
Torrag : 10/7/2015 12:23 pm : link
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.


This clown needs to go.
RE: Mods....This isn't bannable?  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 12:32 pm : link
In comment 12532326 Torrag said:
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.



This clown needs to go.


why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.

based on that, why should I be banned?
I really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 12:34 pm : link
have no fucking clue how to translate this:

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If only he could be a model citizen
MotownGIANTS : 12:08 pm : link : reply
and get do illicit drugs, get underage hookers, commit date rape, cheat on his wife, etc etc etc

Then he be the ideal NYG.


But if my decoder ring is on, I think it means we need players like Hardy here?

If it is referring to LT, it seems a strange comparison, especially since I don't think LT even choked out and bragged about slamming a women into a cache of weapons.
RE: I really..  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 12:37 pm : link
In comment 12532362 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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have no fucking clue how to translate this:



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If only he could be a model citizen
MotownGIANTS : 12:08 pm : link : reply
and get do illicit drugs, get underage hookers, commit date rape, cheat on his wife, etc etc etc

Then he be the ideal NYG.



But if my decoder ring is on, I think it means we need players like Hardy here?

If it is referring to LT, it seems a strange comparison, especially since I don't think LT even choked out and bragged about slamming a women into a cache of weapons.


I think he's referring to LT. and wondering why guys are so bent out of shape about Hardy, when our own beloved player was worst. that's what I THINK he's saying, I could be wrong tho
There's some crap arguments here.  
an_idol_mind : 10/7/2015 12:44 pm : link
Lawrence Taylor being a jackass has no bearing on Hardy as a person.

Whether the woman was on drugs or not has no bearing on whether she deserved to get beaten.

This asshole did something horrible and should be punished for it, not rewarded with another NFL contract. The fact that other people have gotten away with similar acts doesn't absolve him of anything.
Hardy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 12:47 pm : link
probably just needed to give the bitch a good eye stoving....
Interesting...  
j_rud : 10/7/2015 12:48 pm : link
"What he learned most about himself through the ordeal, Hardy said, was that he’s a “really good pass rusher when I put my mind to it.”

Smart guy, sounds like he used his domestic violence induced suspension to do some real soul searching, learn about himself as a man.
MotownGIANTS  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/7/2015 12:51 pm : link
That was an asinine remark. There is no way the Giants would sign Hardy and his remarks today wouldn't be tolerated. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but it was asinine.
RE: There's some crap arguments here.  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 12:58 pm : link
In comment 12532394 an_idol_mind said:
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Lawrence Taylor being a jackass has no bearing on Hardy as a person.

Whether the woman was on drugs or not has no bearing on whether she deserved to get beaten.

This asshole did something horrible and should be punished for it, not rewarded with another NFL contract. The fact that other people have gotten away with similar acts doesn't absolve him of anything.


He was punished tho. He was suspended, with pay. And also suspended w/o pay this year.

People want him to act a certain way and say certain things. But in all honesty, I think the guy has just moved on from it. This happenedition 1.5 years ago. But because this is the medias first opportunity to talk to him, they expect his feeling of remorse to be fresh (if he ever did feel remorse)
you are just trolling at this point  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 1:04 pm : link
he made a whole year of pay last year for zero work while his legal team paid off the victim to avoid jail time. That's cool with you?

And he was given a whopping 4 games this year, basically a present for getting away with a really shitty crime. I hate him a year ago, i hate him now, and i'll hate him next year too. What does 1.5 years ago have to do with anything?
he hasn't shown an ounce of remorse at any point to date  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 1:07 pm : link
and those quotes further prove that. He then talks about another man's wife and family (Brady) in the process of answering a question about facing Tom Brady.

Yeah, piece of shit.
being suspended WITH pay  
giants#1 : 10/7/2015 1:13 pm : link
isn't "punishment". Hell, it probably saved the few remaining brain cells Hardy has!

And as far as I know, LT never used underage hookers while playing. And snorting coke doesn't even compare to what Hardy did. But I'm 31 so I was pretty young when LT was dominating so maybe he did beat women.
if it came out that LT beat women  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 1:14 pm : link
i'd hate him too. This doesn't fall by the wayside with me if the player wore a Giants jersey. Sports don't transcend the real world for me.
Hardy was suspended..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 1:16 pm : link
with pay because the Panthers would have been faced with an action against them by the Players Association if they didn't pay. His locker was cleared out mid-season, however, which was a sure sign he wasn't welcome back.
I'm not the type to wish injury on a player  
David in LA : 10/7/2015 1:21 pm : link
but may both Hardy's achilles tendons snap at the same time.
A common tactic  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 10/7/2015 1:24 pm : link
used to marginalize a woman who is the victim of domestic abuse is to label her a slut, promiscuous, or as our ignorant friend put it, a"haux".

Even if those things are true (and Im not about to take your word for it) it doesnt justify the violent crime committed against her, or somehow make it less bad.

RE: I'm not the type to wish injury on a player  
speedywheels : 10/7/2015 1:32 pm : link
In comment 12532505 David in LA said:
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but may both Hardy's achilles tendons snap at the same time.


+1
In his defense  
NNJ Tom : 10/7/2015 1:50 pm : link
Her sisters are better looking.
.....  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 1:51 pm : link
you don't have to take my word for it. just google her name. when she got paid off, she posted all about it on facebook, bragging about shopping sprees, trips to NY, snowboarding in CO. its just hard for me to feel sorry for someone who doesnt have sympathy for themselves. again, google Nicole Holder. you don't have to take my word
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j_rud : 10/7/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12532224 riceneggs said:
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth


Welcome aboard Brother!

-The Small Minded Misogynysts of America Union
don't feel bad for her, that's your prerogitive  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 1:57 pm : link
but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?
That Buffalo fan...  
rptl530 : 10/7/2015 1:59 pm : link
that was snorting coke at the game Sunday better watch his back when Hardy comes to town this year.
RE: don't feel bad for her, that's your prerogitive  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 2:08 pm : link
In comment 12532624 UConn4523 said:
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?


So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.

He's getting paid..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 2:09 pm : link
$16M this year??
RE: He's getting paid..  
giants#1 : 10/7/2015 2:15 pm : link
In comment 12532658 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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$16M this year??


I think the max is/was closer to $12M, but if he plays the rest of the season I believe he'll earn ~$9M and possibly a little more if he hits some sack thresholds.

Also, keep in mind the Cowboys basically mortgaged 2016 to sign him since just about any money he earns will count towards next years cap, not this years. So anything short of a SB for them this year is essentially a bust.
Yeah..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 2:19 pm : link
don't think I'll be sympathetic to a guy "losing" $3M when he's going to make $9M possibly.
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UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 2:20 pm : link
In comment 12532656 riceneggs said:
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?



So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.


He wasn't punished last year. He received full pay and didn't even have to risk getting injured for it. I can argue his situation was the best case scenario in fact. His 4 games this year for paying off a witness (which is also illegal) is peanuts in the grand scheme of his ordeal.

But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.
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j_rud : 10/7/2015 2:26 pm : link
In comment 12532684 UConn4523 said:
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?










But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.


C'mon man, it ain't rocket surgery. It's like the rape victim who made the stupid mistake of wearing a mini skirt. She was basically asking to get power-bombed into Hardy's bathtub and later onto a sofa covered in rifles and shotguns.
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giants#1 : 10/7/2015 2:34 pm : link
In comment 12532684 UConn4523 said:
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He wasn't punished last year. He received full pay and didn't even have to risk getting injured for it. I can argue his situation was the best case scenario in fact. His 4 games this year for paying off a witness (which is also illegal) is peanuts in the grand scheme of his ordeal.

But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.


Yea, about the only argument you can make for him receiving *punishment* last season would be that a monster 12+ sack season could've fetched him a long term deal worth something like $60M/$30M guaranteed over 5 years.

But even if he played last season while the case was "worked out", I doubt anyone goes near a deal like that. Certainly not the guaranteed money.
Wow  
Chris684 : 10/7/2015 2:46 pm : link
Gisele's parents should have been forced to procreate in multiples of 10.
Wait  
KWALL2 : 10/7/2015 2:48 pm : link
He only tossed the drug hoe onto a futon. Who hasn't and he certainly paid enough for that little misstep.
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riceneggs : 10/7/2015 2:50 pm : link
In comment 12532684 UConn4523 said:
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?



So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.




He wasn't punished last year. He received full pay and didn't even have to risk getting injured for it. I can argue his situation was the best case scenario in fact. His 4 games this year for paying off a witness (which is also illegal) is peanuts in the grand scheme of his ordeal.

But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.


whether you agree with it or not, the NFL deems the comissioners list as punishment. The NFLPA deems it as such as well. Everyone is quick to say "shoot, pay me to stay at home". but the guy was stripped of something he questionably loves. training at a NFL facility, with the best doctors, nutritionist & trainers around is different than lifting weights at your local YMCA. so there's a chance of your skill set diminishing while you're at home "collecting a check".

settling a case out of court is not illegal. it happens often.

and about her doing coke. that statement was in regards to why people view Hardy different than they do Ray Rice. Society is more prone to hold a grudge against Rice because "how can you strike your beloved fiance, the mother of your child, this wholesome person".

Hardys girl was not seen as wholesome, beloved, like, respected...none of that (at least, not by the Charlotte media). On top of all that, her lawyer couldn't contact her, she skipped trials, then low key bragged on facebook about coming up on some money.

Get it now or nah?
I live in Charlotte..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 2:55 pm : link
and don't get it now or nah. The woman's demeanor really is not the point here. Hardy isn't liked in Charlotte, regardless of what people think of the victim. He's just not reviled by the USA because he didn't have footage of him knocking her cold and throwing her on a cache of weapons so that Matt Lauer could grill him about it or SportsCenter would show the tape over and over again.

Anyone who thinks the actions of the victim should play into the reaction to the incident are either trying to somehow defend Hardy or they just aren't that smart.
RE: I live in Charlotte..  
riceneggs : 10/7/2015 3:05 pm : link
In comment 12532787 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and don't get it now or nah. The woman's demeanor really is not the point here. Hardy isn't liked in Charlotte, regardless of what people think of the victim. He's just not reviled by the USA because he didn't have footage of him knocking her cold and throwing her on a cache of weapons so that Matt Lauer could grill him about it or SportsCenter would show the tape over and over again.

Anyone who thinks the actions of the victim should play into the reaction to the incident are either trying to somehow defend Hardy or they just aren't that smart.


You live in Fort Mill. That's like 5 miles out. Stop claiming our city
i get everything you posted  
UConn4523 : 10/7/2015 3:08 pm : link
but again, the guy committed a crime, still got paid a whole season, and still gets to pay this year. By the NFL standards he was "punished" but he really wasn't. You know it, I know it, he knows it.

So he settled out of court huh? Weird. I'm pretty sure he paid her not to testify. That isn't legal, but what do I know.

As for the perception on what type of woman he beat, i'm going to leave that alone. I've said enough on it.
The guy is only in the league on a legal technicality  
raever : 10/7/2015 3:20 pm : link
He is a woman beater that essentially bought his freedom to play. It's a sad and disgusting turn of events that a team would have him on their club after his crime. No surprise at who took him in.
RE: RE: Mods....This isn't bannable?  
Randy in CT : 10/7/2015 3:40 pm : link
In comment 12532355 riceneggs said:
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.



This clown needs to go.



why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.

based on that, why should I be banned?
She possibly uses cocaine so it is OK to beat here? Huh? Dude, if you aren't goofing us, then you are a dickhole.
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riceneggs : 10/7/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12532924 Randy in CT said:
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.



This clown needs to go.



why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.

based on that, why should I be banned?

She possibly uses cocaine so it is OK to beat here? Huh? Dude, if you aren't goofing us, then you are a dickhole.


Is that what I said?
One possible silver lining to Hardy playing in Texas:  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/7/2015 5:41 pm : link
In case he goes too far next time.
TripleB  
raever : 10/7/2015 6:19 pm : link
That's hardcore. I'll settle for a compound fracture and permanent limp.
Katie Nolan ranting about Greg Hardy  
Dunedin81 : 10/8/2015 11:14 am : link
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It's going  
area junc : 10/8/2015 2:27 pm : link
to be crazy watching Flowers vs. Hardy. Talk about an intense match-up. Guaranteed fight
Apparently he made a rap video  
Sonic Youth : 10/10/2015 11:54 am : link
While suspended, filled with strippers and lyrics that can be construed as being about hitting women.

fuck this guy
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