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“I love seeing Tom Brady, he’s cool as crap,” Hardy said. “Have you seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game, all her friends come to the game. One of my favorite games of the year, guys.” Asked what he would say to those who feel he should not be on the team because he was found guilty by a judge of domestic violence, Hardy replied, “God bless you. That’s the message.” What he learned most about himself through the ordeal, Hardy said, was that he’s a “really good pass rusher when I put my mind to it.” His central concerns now, he said, are winning and getting sacks, adding that, “I’m really good at that.” |
There's no video of what he did.
Rice's 'incident' was caught on film and released for all to see. Hardy's wasn't. That makes a big difference to the general public, sadly.
Ok then...
Seriously. reading those comments there has to be doubts about the man's sanity.
Rice didn't get the chance because he was pretty much done as a player.
1. As others mentioned, there was video of Rice
2. The fork in Rice's back. Hardy was still performing at a top level before the suspension.
I believe Hardy has a performance incentive tied to sacks, so hopefully he goes all out trying to accumulate them and gives up some huge runs due to undisciplined play!
1. As others mentioned, there was video of Rice
2. The fork in Rice's back. Hardy was still performing at a top level before the suspension.
I believe Hardy has a performance incentive tied to sacks, so hopefully he goes all out trying to accumulate them and gives up some huge runs due to undisciplined play!
Let's be real... number 2 is a far more important reason as for why Ray Rice isn't playing. If he was still in his prime, the Ravens would've welcomed him back like AP.
Sounds like a born Cowboy.
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They're actually saying the guy is completely innocent because there was no evidence against him.
Rice didn't get the chance because he was pretty much done as a player.
I don't think this is the case. Rice had one bad year... IMO, it was the definite media firestorm that would have come.
Random non football fans know who Rice is. They don't know who Hardy is.
I'm not saying Rice's uncertain status as a good football player didn't contribute, as it certainly did, but I don't think it was the main reason.
"Somebody better just give him a Super Bowl trophy before someone get hurt!"
You registered just to write that?
Then he be the ideal NYG.
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth
You registered just to write that?
I didn't register today, so whats your point. I've been on this board for 5 years. just picked a new name after the upgrade/crash/whatever happened that made us reregister
hopes that answers your question.
and like I was saying, one of the reasons why Ray Rice and Hardy are viewed differently is because people feel sympathy for Janay, not so much for the other chic.
Rice punched his fiancé in the face, her head hit a pole and he drug her out of an elevator like he didn't care.
Hardy tossed a chic (that was high on cocaine) on a futon.
That's a big difference to me. And I live in Charlotte and know dudes that smashed ol girl, at the same time.
I'm not justifying his actions, just sayin
true!
This clown needs to go.
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.
This clown needs to go.
why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.
based on that, why should I be banned?
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and get do illicit drugs, get underage hookers, commit date rape, cheat on his wife, etc etc etc
Then he be the ideal NYG.
But if my decoder ring is on, I think it means we need players like Hardy here?
If it is referring to LT, it seems a strange comparison, especially since I don't think LT even choked out and bragged about slamming a women into a cache of weapons.
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If only he could be a model citizen
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and get do illicit drugs, get underage hookers, commit date rape, cheat on his wife, etc etc etc
Then he be the ideal NYG.
But if my decoder ring is on, I think it means we need players like Hardy here?
If it is referring to LT, it seems a strange comparison, especially since I don't think LT even choked out and bragged about slamming a women into a cache of weapons.
I think he's referring to LT. and wondering why guys are so bent out of shape about Hardy, when our own beloved player was worst. that's what I THINK he's saying, I could be wrong tho
Whether the woman was on drugs or not has no bearing on whether she deserved to get beaten.
This asshole did something horrible and should be punished for it, not rewarded with another NFL contract. The fact that other people have gotten away with similar acts doesn't absolve him of anything.
Smart guy, sounds like he used his domestic violence induced suspension to do some real soul searching, learn about himself as a man.
Whether the woman was on drugs or not has no bearing on whether she deserved to get beaten.
This asshole did something horrible and should be punished for it, not rewarded with another NFL contract. The fact that other people have gotten away with similar acts doesn't absolve him of anything.
He was punished tho. He was suspended, with pay. And also suspended w/o pay this year.
People want him to act a certain way and say certain things. But in all honesty, I think the guy has just moved on from it. This happenedition 1.5 years ago. But because this is the medias first opportunity to talk to him, they expect his feeling of remorse to be fresh (if he ever did feel remorse)
And he was given a whopping 4 games this year, basically a present for getting away with a really shitty crime. I hate him a year ago, i hate him now, and i'll hate him next year too. What does 1.5 years ago have to do with anything?
Yeah, piece of shit.
And as far as I know, LT never used underage hookers while playing. And snorting coke doesn't even compare to what Hardy did. But I'm 31 so I was pretty young when LT was dominating so maybe he did beat women.
Even if those things are true (and Im not about to take your word for it) it doesnt justify the violent crime committed against her, or somehow make it less bad.
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So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.
I think the max is/was closer to $12M, but if he plays the rest of the season I believe he'll earn ~$9M and possibly a little more if he hits some sack thresholds.
Also, keep in mind the Cowboys basically mortgaged 2016 to sign him since just about any money he earns will count towards next years cap, not this years. So anything short of a SB for them this year is essentially a bust.
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?
So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.
He wasn't punished last year. He received full pay and didn't even have to risk getting injured for it. I can argue his situation was the best case scenario in fact. His 4 games this year for paying off a witness (which is also illegal) is peanuts in the grand scheme of his ordeal.
But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?
But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.
C'mon man, it ain't rocket surgery. It's like the rape victim who made the stupid mistake of wearing a mini skirt. She was basically asking to get power-bombed into Hardy's bathtub and later onto a sofa covered in rifles and shotguns.
But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.
Yea, about the only argument you can make for him receiving *punishment* last season would be that a monster 12+ sack season could've fetched him a long term deal worth something like $60M/$30M guaranteed over 5 years.
But even if he played last season while the case was "worked out", I doubt anyone goes near a deal like that. Certainly not the guaranteed money.
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but what does that have to do with what Hardy did?
So what do you think his punishment should be. He missed a season. Plus missed on about 4 million dollars this year. Last I checked, that's still a lot of money.
He wasn't punished last year. He received full pay and didn't even have to risk getting injured for it. I can argue his situation was the best case scenario in fact. His 4 games this year for paying off a witness (which is also illegal) is peanuts in the grand scheme of his ordeal.
But again, you are not addressing the question about why the girl doing coke somehow makes a difference.
whether you agree with it or not, the NFL deems the comissioners list as punishment. The NFLPA deems it as such as well. Everyone is quick to say "shoot, pay me to stay at home". but the guy was stripped of something he questionably loves. training at a NFL facility, with the best doctors, nutritionist & trainers around is different than lifting weights at your local YMCA. so there's a chance of your skill set diminishing while you're at home "collecting a check".
settling a case out of court is not illegal. it happens often.
and about her doing coke. that statement was in regards to why people view Hardy different than they do Ray Rice. Society is more prone to hold a grudge against Rice because "how can you strike your beloved fiance, the mother of your child, this wholesome person".
Hardys girl was not seen as wholesome, beloved, like, respected...none of that (at least, not by the Charlotte media). On top of all that, her lawyer couldn't contact her, she skipped trials, then low key bragged on facebook about coming up on some money.
Get it now or nah?
Anyone who thinks the actions of the victim should play into the reaction to the incident are either trying to somehow defend Hardy or they just aren't that smart.
Anyone who thinks the actions of the victim should play into the reaction to the incident are either trying to somehow defend Hardy or they just aren't that smart.
You live in Fort Mill. That's like 5 miles out. Stop claiming our city
So he settled out of court huh? Weird. I'm pretty sure he paid her not to testify. That isn't legal, but what do I know.
As for the perception on what type of woman he beat, i'm going to leave that alone. I've said enough on it.
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.
This clown needs to go.
why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.
based on that, why should I be banned?
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Plus no one feels sympathy for the chic he slammed because she was a cocaine sniffing haux. Not an opinion, that's the truth.
This clown needs to go.
why should this be bannable? dude, I live in charlotte. I've seen the chic out. two guys that I shoot ball with "done nasty things to her at the same time". its in the police report that she snorted cocaine regularly. like, I'm not slandering the chic or anything. that's who she is/was back in 2014 when everything went down.
based on that, why should I be banned?
She possibly uses cocaine so it is OK to beat here? Huh? Dude, if you aren't goofing us, then you are a dickhole.
Is that what I said?
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