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j_rud : 10/7/2015 11:55 am
Six weeks ago the Eagles were a trendy Super Bowl pick. They made a splash in bringing in Mathews and Murray, giving them a stable of talented RBs. Kelly cleared the locker room of guys who did not 100% buy into his system (Mathis, McCoy) and he went out and got his QB in Bradford. They made some moves on defense (Maxwell, Thurmond) which were lauded and expected to turn around the secondary. The general consensus of the talking heads was that the division was a foregone conclusion and a deep playoff run was in the cards.

Fast forward one month into the season...

The Birds are 1-3. The vaunted running game ranks 30th in the league at 70 YPG. The OL is a mess and the Mastermind can't seem to figure out how to use his slew of star RBs. After a month the Eagles are averaging 3.1 YPC, good for second worst in the league. FA prize Murray is averaging just over a yard per carry and has voiced his frustration at his lack of touches. Bradford hasn't been resurrected as so many predicted and his play has been pedestrian at best (6TDs, 4 INTs, 82 QB rating). The passing game has been anemic, just two pass plays over 30 yards and no deep game to speak of. They're also struggling mightily to get the ball to their wideouts: while WR Jordan Matthews leads the team in receptions he's followed by two RBs (Sproles, Mattjews) and a TE (Ertz). And while throwing to those positions is a staple of Kelly's O, none of those guys have more than 15 catches. Simply put the O is anemic: 29th in YPG and 23rd in PPG, 30th in rushing yards per game, 26th in passing yards per game, and next to last in YPC. That's pretty bad. From a supposed genius who is at the cutting edge of offensive strategy it's downright awful.

Things aren't much better on the other side of the ball. While the front 7 is decent the supposedly upgraded secondary has been a flop. Through September big ticket FA prize Maxwell has allowed a perfect QB rating, allowing 15 completions on 19 targets for 250+ yards and 2 TDs. Thurmond has 2 picks after moving to safety but has also been beaten plenty. Malcolm Jenkins is basically the only guy in their secondary playing consistently well.

Needless to say, the fans and much of the media is up in arms. Fans are already calling for his head. That's not unexpected. What is a surprise is the lashing he's getting from the media, who normally gush over "Big Balls Chip". This morning noted curmudgeon and all around prick Buzz Bissinger called him "a fraud". SB Nation published a piece today claiming Kelly is "running 'The Prodicers' scam in Philly". Howard Eskin (I know, consider the source) was on NFLN this morning claiming that many people feel Kelly will bolt for the college ranks should the season tank. And a lost season is a definite possibility; the next two months feature road games in Dallas, Carolina, and New England. Before the seasons midpoint they will play the Giants at home before going on the road to Carolina and Dallas. It's realistic to think they could be 2-6 midway through the season. If that's the case grab your popcorn, sit back, and enjoy the fireworks.

They've gotten off to rocky starts before only to come on strong late so I can't write them off yet. How many times have we prematurely scheduled the Eagles funeral? At the same time I think it's unrealistic to expect Kelly to have the same late season success as Reid, who really did own November and December.

Thoughts, other than general happiness? Could this really be Kelly's last year? He has total control, rare in the NFL, would he give it up so quickly? We can only hope...because Kelly retreating back to the college ranks would top Saban's Miami Traveling Medicine Show. Sabah left the Phins in the lurch but he wasn't there very long, it didn't take much to redirect the franchise. The Eagles though, gave Chip the keys and watched as he completely altered the franchise over the last 3 years. If he were to leave now he'd be leaving behind an incredible mess...
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Bradford isn't struggling as much as the Wideouts are  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/7/2015 12:16 pm : link
Every game I watch them, they drop so many catchable balls. I really don't thinks it's Bradford as much.
RE: ...  
TyFromQueens : 10/7/2015 12:17 pm : link
In comment 12532251 Eric from BBI said:
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the superstitious guy in me says let's not bury them yet fellas...especially since we play them soon.



Exactly.


And we play them on Monday night?

I hate Monday night games for The Giants.

Sunday night games as well.

This season is far from over.

And we damn sure need to win this upcoming Sunday to keep the pressure on Dallas.

If we beat The 49ers and Philly early (when's the last time we beat Philly early in the season?)

I think that kills The Eagles.
RE: It's too early for me...  
j_rud : 10/7/2015 12:17 pm : link
In comment 12532244 Chris in Philly said:
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to really get giddy, but a couple more losses and I am going to giggle like a little fucking girl. This has the potential to be the most enjoyable Eagles season in years.

And fuck Howard Eskin with a rusty spoon...


I was reticent to cite Eskin but it fit the narrative of the thread. I knew you'd have something to say about him haha. You've gotta be the only BBIer who hates him more than I do and I know him in "real life" (distant relative of my wife, through marriage). All I can say is that his "media persona" isn't really much of a persona at all, he carries himself the same way when he's miles from the cameras/microphones. He's not a "shock jock radio personality" as much as he's a smug prick who just happens to have a job in the media.
RE: and they run a dumbed down, simple offense......  
mfsd : 10/7/2015 12:17 pm : link
In comment 12532290 BillKo said:
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college style. Designed on catching you out of position, and being tired. Nothing more, nothing less.

Funny, when they were winning the offense was "complex" and "had layers" to it........

Now, all I hear is it is simplistic and and not much to it, and teams have it figured out.

WTF......the media blows.............


This is just it - NFL DCs have gone to school the last couple offseasons to learn how to better defend their offense. In the end, football still comes down to players vs. players. And they got rid of their best players over the last 2 seasons...
a rusty spoon is a little harsh  
Rocky369 : 10/7/2015 12:20 pm : link
how about a plastic spoon? It'd be like forking a yard and he'll be left with little bits of plastic that will take years to decompose.
RE: j_rud  
j_rud : 10/7/2015 12:20 pm : link
In comment 12532263 Eric from BBI said:
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they burned the Skins deep a couple of times.


They had two deep completions against the Skins, they were their longest pass plays of the season. Like I said, two pass plays of more than 30 yards in 16 quarters of football. It's a combination of things, primarily poor pass blocking and receivers who are struggling to separate, but they really have no deep passing game to speak of.
Counting the Eagles out  
Big Blue '56 : 10/7/2015 12:23 pm : link
at this point is as silly as counting us out after 0-2
Not planning the Philly funeral just yet...  
rptl530 : 10/7/2015 12:25 pm : link
been down that road too many times.
Nothing gives me more joy  
BrianLeonard23 : 10/7/2015 12:26 pm : link
Than Eagle fan misery
they have not won a playoff game  
tikimvp : 10/7/2015 12:30 pm : link
since they beat us in the plaxico incident year in 2008. No relevance to this thread, it just makes me happy
I've said it many times..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 12:30 pm : link
but guys like Kelly aren't long for one position because they are too arrogant to last when a storm erupts, and it always will. Even successful franchises like the Pats, Colts and Steelers have storms that have fallout. The Pats are always accused of cheating, but Bill just mumbles and goes on. If the Steelers have a bad year, they take out a coordinator. The Colts, for all their sustained success are on a 3rd coach in 10 years and could have a 4th next year if rumors are true. And that isn't even in cases of arrogance.

The arrogance are the Rex Ryan's and the Jim Harbaugh's of the world. It really say a lot when you can go to multiple League Championship games and end up on the hot seat and canned.
Chip Kelly is so arrogant  
BrianLeonard23 : 10/7/2015 12:31 pm : link
He got Sam Bradford to be his QB. Think about that for a minute.

Fuck Chip Kelly.
RE: Kellys offense and DCs "figuring it out"  
j_rud : 10/7/2015 12:32 pm : link
I can't recall the thread but yesterday someone mentioned a quote by TC regarding Spags and how he consulted with college coaches including Urban Meyer to study the spread and read option Schemes and how to defend them.

You think Spagnuolo is the only defensive coach to have done that? It was highly innovative when Kelly first arrived but it's been 3+ seasons now. Defenses have adjusted. If Chip can't do some adjusting/tweaking himself I don't see the struggles ending. Personally in order to regain its affectiveness I think it's going to take a complete re-tooling, adding traditional offensive elements to his scheme. But we don't know if he's capable of that. First of all it wouldn't be an easy task to begin with, second of all will his ego even allow him to attempt doing so?
I will not count them out  
gmen9892 : 10/7/2015 12:35 pm : link
Until we go there and beat them in 2 weeks. They are a 2 game winning streak away from being in first place, and they have had our number for the longest time.
And for all the bluster..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 12:37 pm : link
of Kelly's teams having some sort of other-worldly conditioning, I think they have been outscored in the 4th quarter of games more often than not.
RE: Counting the Eagles out  
j_rud : 10/7/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12532325 Big Blue '56 said:
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at this point is as silly as counting us out after 0-2


I'm not counting them out, I explicitly said in the OP that I can't do that, due to being just a quarter of the way into the season and their past ability to turn things around after slow starts. But I see nothing wrong with discussing their struggles, and I think it's worth mentioning that this is a new Eagles team. Can Kelly find the late season success after a slow start, something Reid excelled at? It was one of Reid's finest abilities as a coach and it's not something we can just assume Kelly can do.
RE: In fairness, can you really tell about Kelly's demeanor  
RinR : 10/7/2015 12:49 pm : link
In comment 12532255 Big Blue '56 said:
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on TV? Remember Eli's supposed demeanor?

There were more than a few posters here who said during the pre-season, "The Eagles look in mid season form and we just plain suck," as if Pre-season is a harbinger to come..:)


Yes, lots of hand-wringing here when they started the preseason 3 - 0 with wins over Indy, Baltimore and the Packers by a combined score of 115 - 53.
RE: RE: Counting the Eagles out  
Big Blue '56 : 10/7/2015 12:59 pm : link
In comment 12532376 j_rud said:
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at this point is as silly as counting us out after 0-2



I'm not counting them out, I explicitly said in the OP that I can't do that, due to being just a quarter of the way into the season and their past ability to turn things around after slow starts. But I see nothing wrong with discussing their struggles, and I think it's worth mentioning that this is a new Eagles team. Can Kelly find the late season success after a slow start, something Reid excelled at? It was one of Reid's finest abilities as a coach and it's not something we can just assume Kelly can do.


Wasn't addressing you per se..Just generalizing..Should have been clearer..
I'm sure if I turn on WIP tomorrow morning  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 10/7/2015 1:00 pm : link
Angelo Cataldi will be saying "Let me tell you something about this Chip Kelly..." Just like he did for Andy Reid. Neanderthal fan base.
Half of BBI gathers with pitchforks and torches  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/7/2015 1:03 pm : link
for Coughlin and Eli after every Giants loss. Sometimes even after a victory.
I was listening to NFL Radio, and I believe it was Pat Kirwan  
Ben in Tampa : 10/7/2015 1:25 pm : link
Who said that he had talked to a few personnel guys around the league, and the consensus is that Kelly's offense doesn't work with a QB as immobile as Bradford. Even though guys like Sanchez and Foles aren't exactly Mike Vick, they had the ability to escape the pocket.

Bradford is a statue and defenses don't have to account for him.
I agree 1-3 is too early  
TomTom : 10/7/2015 1:30 pm : link
to say they are done, but I will say their 1-3 looks like a real 1-3. They look like shit.
One thing i have noticed from Bradford  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 1:32 pm : link
if you get pressure up the middle and around his feet he starts to look down and loses track of his receivers...He is scared to step up and get hit low again.

We saw it from Carson Palmer the first time he came back from his ACL injury, he was afraid of getting hit low and kept looking down..

It is a hard thing for a QB to get over when they first come back..
if the eagles beat the saints  
Old Dirty Beckham : 10/7/2015 2:04 pm : link
they will have a chance to tie us on their homefield and move ahead of us with the tiebreaker.

Everyone is getting too excited around here. Loooooong way to go.
Let's beat them on October 19th.  
SanFranNowNCGiantsFan : 10/7/2015 2:49 pm : link
I'm sick of losing to them.
RE: Let's beat them on October 19th.  
okiegiant : 10/7/2015 2:52 pm : link
In comment 12532769 SanFranNowNCGiantsFan said:
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I'm sick of losing to them.


I want the Giants to whip them on Monday night so badly.
it's still early  
djm : 10/7/2015 3:02 pm : link
but there's a difference between counting a team out at 0-2 and counting a team out at 1-3. Forget the records, 4 games is a large enough sample size to reach some conclusions. Right now the Eagles haven't shown enough to warrant any optimism at all. At 0-2, the Giants at least displayed some good traits that a fan could latch on to even if they endured 2 brutal 4th quarter collapses. At least the Giants were stopping the run and making plays. And it was only 2 games.

4 games now and the Eagles clearly look like a mediocre football team. The Giants look like a slightly above average football team and have a one game lead on Philly. If things hold true to form the Giants will finish with a better record. It's all we have to go on at this point. Doesn't mean it unfolds the way we hope but there's evidence to support the belief that Philly is in for a long year.

The only saving grace is Bradford could just be learning a new offense and maybe he peaks over the next month or so. That might be a stretch but it's not outlandish to believe it could happen.

Right now the Giants are in the best shape in the East. They just have to hold serve the rest of the season. Go 4-2 in the East and they absolutely have to beat Dallas in 3 weeks. 4-2 in the East and win the manageable games on the schedule. 10-6 wins the east no problem. 10 wins.
We can also say..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/7/2015 3:04 pm : link
the Giants have played well enough to have double-digit leads in every game.

That is a stark difference to last year.
RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
The_Boss : 10/7/2015 3:05 pm : link
In comment 12532644 Old Dirty Beckham said:
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they will have a chance to tie us on their homefield and move ahead of us with the tiebreaker.

Everyone is getting too excited around here. Loooooong way to go.



Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.
RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/7/2015 3:09 pm : link
In comment 12532817 The_Boss said:
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they will have a chance to tie us on their homefield and move ahead of us with the tiebreaker.

Everyone is getting too excited around here. Loooooong way to go.




Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.


There's a more likely chance the exact opposite happens. Typical trash.
wait the Giants just controlled  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 3:11 pm : link
2 of the best Dlines in the league in back to back weeks, yet they will not be able to control the Eagles Dline?

and the Eagles OL has been trash this season, they are not going to be able to run the ball against the Giants...

But i forgot we are talking to the BBI eagles fan
RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
nygiants16 : 10/7/2015 3:13 pm : link
In comment 12532817 The_Boss said:
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Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.


Just like the Bills were going to beat the Giants by 2 touchdowns? and the Eagles were going to kill the Redskins and win 3 in a row before they faced the Giants?

have you ever been right with your predictions?
RE: RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
The_Boss : 10/7/2015 3:48 pm : link
In comment 12532839 nygiants16 said:
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Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.



Just like the Bills were going to beat the Giants by 2 touchdowns? and the Eagles were going to kill the Redskins and win 3 in a row before they faced the Giants?

have you ever been right with your predictions?


Where did I say the NYG were losing to Buffalo by 2 tds? In the "players only" thread last week I said I liked our chances up there. And nobody could be happier to see Washington win last week than me. Here's the bottom line: I'm conditioned to seeing the Eagles beat us over the last decade. We're well under .500 vs this franchise. The only time we beat Kelly was by 8 points when Matt Barkley was his QB. The other 3 times we've lost by an average of 16.6 points, including a shut out where they probably could have hung a 50 burger on us if they chose to. Until we actually beat them, and do it in a convincing fashion, this current crop of NYG won't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Go down there next Monday night and prove me wrong.
Meant  
The_Boss : 10/7/2015 3:50 pm : link
Well under .500 in the Manning/Coughlin Era
Haven't they finally gotten their share of injuries too this year?  
SimpleMan : 10/7/2015 3:52 pm : link
In Chip's first few years, they were at or near the top of the league for least amount of injuries. Welcome to reality in the NFL Chip...
The eagles aren't very good and chip kelly is an egomaniac  
Torrag : 10/7/2015 3:57 pm : link
None of that matters if we can't beat them. It's critical to stomp on their necks when we get the opportunity. I'm firmly convinced we have the more talented roster but we have a knack for blowing games to that team. It can't happen this year if we are going to achieve our goal of making the playoffs. We blew two games early by losing our poise. We can't afford many more slip ups or it will come back to bite us in the ass.
RE: RE: RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
BillKo : 10/7/2015 4:39 pm : link
In comment 12532940 The_Boss said:
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Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.



Just like the Bills were going to beat the Giants by 2 touchdowns? and the Eagles were going to kill the Redskins and win 3 in a row before they faced the Giants?

have you ever been right with your predictions?



Where did I say the NYG were losing to Buffalo by 2 tds? In the "players only" thread last week I said I liked our chances up there. And nobody could be happier to see Washington win last week than me. Here's the bottom line: I'm conditioned to seeing the Eagles beat us over the last decade. We're well under .500 vs this franchise. The only time we beat Kelly was by 8 points when Matt Barkley was his QB. The other 3 times we've lost by an average of 16.6 points, including a shut out where they probably could have hung a 50 burger on us if they chose to. Until we actually beat them, and do it in a convincing fashion, this current crop of NYG won't get the benefit of the doubt from me. Go down there next Monday night and prove me wrong.


Hung a 50 burger on us?? LOL....Foles played so crappy they are lucky we were just stuck in mud offensively.......
RE: it's still early  
BillKo : 10/7/2015 4:43 pm : link
In comment 12532808 djm said:
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but there's a difference between counting a team out at 0-2 and counting a team out at 1-3. Forget the records, 4 games is a large enough sample size to reach some conclusions. Right now the Eagles haven't shown enough to warrant any optimism at all. At 0-2, the Giants at least displayed some good traits that a fan could latch on to even if they endured 2 brutal 4th quarter collapses. At least the Giants were stopping the run and making plays. And it was only 2 games.

4 games now and the Eagles clearly look like a mediocre football team. The Giants look like a slightly above average football team and have a one game lead on Philly. If things hold true to form the Giants will finish with a better record. It's all we have to go on at this point. Doesn't mean it unfolds the way we hope but there's evidence to support the belief that Philly is in for a long year.

The only saving grace is Bradford could just be learning a new offense and maybe he peaks over the next month or so. That might be a stretch but it's not outlandish to believe it could happen.

Right now the Giants are in the best shape in the East. They just have to hold serve the rest of the season. Go 4-2 in the East and they absolutely have to beat Dallas in 3 weeks. 4-2 in the East and win the manageable games on the schedule. 10-6 wins the east no problem. 10 wins.


DJM - there's no new offense to learn....it's the simplist offense in the NFL. Look to the sideline, get the play, raise your leg with no snap count, and throw to a declared area.

Even on Bradford's long TD passes.....he doesn't look good. Everything is forced.....he's playing EXACTLY how he did with the Rams.

He should actually be doing better in this offense, but the OL is so messed up they can't get out of their own way.
It's a lot of fun to watch things unfold the way they have  
BurlyMan : 10/7/2015 4:54 pm : link
and its great to see the Giants come out with a plan and win with it (short passes, keep QB clean, stop the run, etc.) but things change too much in this league from week to week to make assumptions about the Eagles or any other team. Look at the Redskins. They've looked impressive at times this season but two weeks ago they were anything but. What will Dallas look like with Hardy and McClain back? Until the record says there's separation, these teams are all very close.
RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
BigBlueShock : 10/7/2015 5:21 pm : link
In comment 12532817 The_Boss said:
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they will have a chance to tie us on their homefield and move ahead of us with the tiebreaker.

Everyone is getting too excited around here. Loooooong way to go.




Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.

Your act is wearing thin. Actually, it did a long time ago. No matter how awful your favorite team plays, you continue to insist that they are going to throttle the Giants? Just shut up, man. Control the line of scrimmage? The Eagles have had one of the very worst OL in football this season. They are treacherous. And the Giants OL has been MUCH better than in recent years.

I know we've all tried to get all this through your thick skull, but for the last time: THESE ARE NOT THE SAME TEAMS AS THEY WERE KAST YEAR! Or the year before. In fact, they couldn't be any more different than they've both been. But, go ahead, keep telling us all how dominant their interior lines are. They are actually the opposite of that, but why would you care? You're not searching for the truth, that much is obvious. You're a broken record.
I know some had them as a trendy superbowl pick  
MetsAreBack : 10/7/2015 5:30 pm : link
but not sure i agree "talking heads considered the division a forgone conclusion"

I thought most assumed Dallas, with Romo, Dez and those criminal defensive player acquisitions - would win the East.

Personally not counting them out at 1-3. They are one game back with lots of football TBD.
For the Giants  
St. Jimmy : 10/7/2015 7:03 pm : link
to become a team that is in the playoffs consistently, it has to start with beating the Eagles. It has been a long time since I have had any confidence in the Giants going against the Eagles.

I think having Spags will help this year. While the offense stunk, the defensive game plan in last year's game in Philadelphia allowed their offense to get off to a great start and jump out to a big lead.
Win win  
reesesux : 10/7/2015 7:45 pm : link
Eagles go 1-15, and Rutgers get their next head coach.
Actually most people  
mrvax : 10/7/2015 8:00 pm : link
with a brain felt the Cows were the strongest team in the NFC East.

I believe the only reason that Chip has Bradford as his starting QB is because he could not work out a trade with the Titans.

Why they wouldn't re-sign Mathis knowing the Oline could be an issue is very stupid. The Giants had to sign Beatty for big bucks a few years ago because they needed a starting OLT.

I dunno, it seems like almost all of Chip's moves have been stupid.

I  
blue42 : 10/7/2015 10:53 pm : link
have tics for week 16 at home...I expect the game to matter.
RE: RE: RE: if the eagles beat the saints  
chopperhatch : 10/8/2015 1:34 am : link
In comment 12533103 BigBlueShock said:
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they will have a chance to tie us on their homefield and move ahead of us with the tiebreaker.

Everyone is getting too excited around here. Loooooong way to go.




Exactly.
Have to hope they lose to the Saints because should they beat us in that scenario, they can't tie us (assuming we beat SF Sunday night).

That being said, I can see us losing by double digits again to them down there. I'm assuming they come out in those silly all black uni's to rev up their lowlife fanbase and beat us because we won't be able to control both sides of the LOS vs them, as usual.


Your act is wearing thin. Actually, it did a long time ago. No matter how awful your favorite team plays, you continue to insist that they are going to throttle the Giants? Just shut up, man. Control the line of scrimmage? The Eagles have had one of the very worst OL in football this season. They are treacherous. And the Giants OL has been MUCH better than in recent years.

I know we've all tried to get all this through your thick skull, but for the last time: THESE ARE NOT THE SAME TEAMS AS THEY WERE KAST YEAR! Or the year before. In fact, they couldn't be any more different than they've both been. But, go ahead, keep telling us all how dominant their interior lines are. They are actually the opposite of that, but why would you care? You're not searching for the truth, that much is obvious. You're a broken record.


Agreed Old Dirty Beckham is a schmuck to end all schmucks.
The Giants have lost 11 of 14 to Philly, and 5 straight to Dallas.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/8/2015 8:38 am : link
Maybe the history matters; maybe it doesn't. The records are what they are. The Giants need to take care of business this week. Then they have golden two opportunities to show that the Eagles and Cowboys don't actually own them.

The streaks aren't total flukes. Philly has generally dominated the line of scrimmage against New York the past seven years - corresponding roughly with the Jason Peters era. Tony Romo has lit up the Giant defense in the fourth quarter. Romo is shelved indefinitely, and Peters might be nearing the end. (He's currently nursing a quad injury that may sideline him this week.) Both teams look pedestrian at best. Until the Giants beat them, though, NYG will remain also-rans in the East, along with Washington.

RE: The Giants have lost 11 of 14 to Philly, and 5 straight to Dallas.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/8/2015 9:32 am : link
In comment 12533829 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Maybe the history matters; maybe it doesn't. The records are what they are. The Giants need to take care of business this week. Then they have golden two opportunities to show that the Eagles and Cowboys don't actually own them.

The streaks aren't total flukes. Philly has generally dominated the line of scrimmage against New York the past seven years - corresponding roughly with the Jason Peters era. Tony Romo has lit up the Giant defense in the fourth quarter. Romo is shelved indefinitely, and Peters might be nearing the end. (He's currently nursing a quad injury that may sideline him this week.) Both teams look pedestrian at best. Until the Giants beat them, though, NYG will remain also-rans in the East, along with Washington.


Great post.
Eh, these things go in cycles.  
jcn56 : 10/8/2015 9:39 am : link
There was a time that we owned the Eagles - during the Fassel era, through to the beginning of Reid's tenure. 8 in a row IIRC, but what good did it do us?

Cycle through, and Reid gets to 2 NFCCs and a SB. No trophies.

Dallas picks up in strength thanks to Parcells, and builds up to a 12-4 NFCE title. They go one and done in the playoffs.

The teams of the NFCE have gone back and forth, with even Washington making an appearance at the top of the NFCE in 2012. The goal still remains the same - hardware.

And that's where, for all the dysfunction, the Giants have reigned supreme for some time. Let's hope they go back to the well one last time before Eli hangs 'em up.
Of course those Cowboys were 13-3  
jcn56 : 10/8/2015 9:40 am : link
Probably just tacked on my favorite loss of theirs that season.
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