Rumor has it this was the guy the Obama team was most concerned. But early primary voters don't even look at him because OMG he was Obama Ambassador to China.
so I will repeat what I have said in the past. Behavior by state and local public employee unions give Republicans a massive advantage at the state and local level. Too many states and cities are going into crisis mode over pensions. Too many civil service unions obstruct beneficial change, and punishment of their worst/least competent members. On top of that, some of the worst, most wasteful state and local programs are defended and protected by Democrats.
Until that changes, which it probably won't any time soon, Republicans will have a massive advantage at the state and local level. There is good news and bad news in that--the bad news coming on social issues, and on unwillingness to spend on infrastructure projects and maintenance. Nevertheless, it is what it is, and I don;t see it changing any time soon.
And yes, in some state dominated by Republicans, governing has gotten really crazy. Kansas/Brownback is the worst example of that.
At the Federal level, some of the same issues exist, but they aren't as egregious or important, imo. At the same time, some of the major social issues play out on a leveraged basis at the Federal level, and that helps keep Democrats in the game, and probably with a significant advantage, in national elections. The other advantage Democrats have at the Federal level, imo, is the strong believe in the Tea Party crowd that compromise, or even governing/government, is a bad idea.
As a consequence, there is a substantial dichotomy between party affiliation at the state and local level and at the Federal level.
This is reflected in the proportion of independents. I don't knwo where the idea comes from that there aren't a lot of independents. In a Gallup survey earlier this year, 43% identified as political independents. Are they all lying? Doubtful.
Which, not coincidentally, is largely why Huntsman and Kasich are always being mentioned by lefties as the Republicans they like.
That's generally considered to be a poor strategy in the pursuit of elected office, going out of your way to anger the people you want to vote for you.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
I forgot to say I respect Michael Steele, J. C. Watts & Tim Scott, and other black R's who I forget at this time who don't say outlandish things to simply to appease others in the party.
A liberal professor at the University of Pennsylvania just called Ben Carson a "coon" and she still has her job.
If that had been a conservative professor?
Apparently (or arguably? -- I didnt know this) that term has a very different definition within the black community, and the professor in question is black.
Because they would hemorrhage support from their existing voters while likely only picking up a trickle of new supporters to replace them. You're suggesting that there is a vast pool of potential voters who simply won't vote Republican because of what...abortion? Do you really think there are many Democrat voters who'd flip if the GOP would only embrace abortion?
Probably not, but I don't the abortion position as something so a la carte as that. His position on abortion would just be representative of a different-from-average way of thinking for a conservative.
WHo are you speaking about?
It was a hypothetical "His..." no one specific and I probably should have said their.
Aren't African Americans less tolerant of gay marriage?
There is a war on women?
Many black Republicans have pointed out that nearly 50 years of "Great Society" policies designed to level the playing field seemed to have had the opposite effect (education, crime/drug use, poverty, unemployment, social welfare dependency). Not sure what the answers are, but what's been tried has failed miserably.
Eric were you searching for a false equivalency again?
and was pretty bitter. Maybe I'm wrong but I think both speak more about what is possible and not so much as insulting. So the party is mad at "establishment" candidate's because they didnt do what was promised, but yet won't look at guys being realistic?
Know your a libertarian but sounds like your down on the Rep. Party. What's your take on Paul?
Those on the right search for something, usually far less in stature to something done on the left. You immediately went to "well what if a conservative did it"
The inability to see the false equivalency is ultimately what separates us between the left from the right
But he's a lousy retail politician and, though it isn't fair, he will always bear the burden of his father's nuttier beliefs. He tries to play the party game and still advance libertarian beliefs, but the problem is that the majority of libertarians are absolutists who make no exceptions. It's very difficult to walk that line. The good he could accomplish for liberty outweighs the concessions he has to make to be a viable candidate for the GOP, but a lot of people don't accept that. Foolish and shortsighted, but that's what it is. The internal purity test among LP types is ludicrously stringent, which is a major reason why they'll never advance beyond a tiny slice of the public.
He would absolutely be my preferred choice among this field, though.
Those on the right search for something, usually far less in stature to something done on the left. You immediately went to "well what if a conservative did it"
The inability to see the false equivalency is ultimately what separates us between the left from the right
You simply can't/won't admit your own biases. The fact that you label yourself as moderate independent is a joke. At least own up to who and what you are.
I do watch Fox news on occasion, listen to talk radio on occasion and it is the most misleading, misinforming nonsense. If that makes me biased somehow then I am fine with that. Except what is espoused on these outlets has become your party's platform.
Aren't African Americans less tolerant of gay marriage?
There is a war on women?
Many black Republicans have pointed out that nearly 50 years of "Great Society" policies designed to level the playing field seemed to have had the opposite effect (education, crime/drug use, poverty, unemployment, social welfare dependency). Not sure what the answers are, but what's been tried has failed miserably.
Eric I think the main thing is unemployment, but when you look at the disinvestment of Capital in the black communities, No Great Society program is gonna help when they are no jobs where there were jobs before.
I hear Conservatives talk about Baltimore, and other black majority cities, but look back to the 50's and 60's when these communities were thriving, but when you go to Baltimore now and see shell of factories from yesteryear, not only was there White Flight to the suburbs, there was capital flight from these same neighborhoods.
When my family used to drive to Baltimore from Landover MD as a kid, my grandmother used always say its a shame what they did to this city shipping all those jobs elsewhere, as we all gaze upon that abandoned Domino sugar factory.
when the White communities started to feel the pain as well.
But this disinvestment in capital started happening in the 60's before I was born and now everyone is starting to feel it as well, because this outsourcing is just not to other parts of the state or country anymore.
These jobs are going oversees.
R's & D's both played a heavy roles in this.
The Great Society is a scapegoat and has really helped people alot all these years.
If anything, Defense Contractors & Big Corporations are the biggest and laziest welfare queens ever.
I haven't made myself out to be unbiased or a moderate independent. Years ago I was a liberal Democrat. Now a Tea Party conservative.
I'm not pretending to be something I'm not.
I'm merely pointing out that you simply refuse to accept the lenses in which you see the world. You see bias on FOX (which obviously exists) but can't see the same bias in other media outlets (did you happen to miss NBC's week of Hilliary promotion?). You see obstinate Republican Congressmen, but don't see the same on the Democratic side.
GMenLTS sounds like an independent because he sees the problems and hypocrisy with both sides.
Right-wing media - both TV and especially radio - but there is dissent. Look at McCarthy. He's been vilified harshly on the right, especially on radio. Trump? There are people on FOX who blow smoke up his ass while others who say he is a running joke.
Boehner just announced that he will remain until a new Speaker is chosen. That reduces the risks of a full-blown crisis, but leaves more contentious issues, like funding of the Federal Highway Trust Fund, up in the air.
I can easily envision a situation where no one that's left can get the requisite 218 votes, and Boehner remains until the presidential election or he gets sick of it all, whichever comes first.
But in order to increase investment in these states and cities, you have to put in policies that are pro-business. That's the lesson many mayors and governors have learned. Look at South Carolina. They've done a great job of expanding job growth in that state.
Billions have been spent on Baltimore and it gets worse and worse. Dumping tax payer money on the problem isn't fixing it.
Whether or not you agree with the things Huntsman said, I think we can all disagree that deliberately antagonizing your voters is not a path to electoral success. It fed the image that he was more interested in being popular with the media and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) than anything else.
LBJ's policies were nothing short of horrid and have had nothing but horrible consequences. Thomas Sowell and many others have written extensively on this and I can't find anything with their analysis that would lead me to disagree.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
I dont know if you were reading something into my post that wasnt there, but I wasnt being snarky. Huntsman was an odd bird candidate. Had real disdain for a big segment of the base. Now I share that disdain, but Im also probably not going to run for the GOP presidential nomination.
I've heard slight rumblings about a Clinton-Huntsman ticket. I dont buy it, since it would seriously piss off most Clinton voters if Huntsman ended up having to actually do his job and take over the presidency. But I've heard it suggested.
But in order to increase investment in these states and cities, you have to put in policies that are pro-business. That's the lesson many mayors and governors have learned. Look at South Carolina. They've done a great job of expanding job growth in that state.
Billions have been spent on Baltimore and it gets worse and worse. Dumping tax payer money on the problem isn't fixing it.
You have to fix the economy.
Yes, More jobs, less welfare programs. I just hope that these Multinational Corporations agree as well. I know most US based businesses will agree.
The problem is that some previously US based are now Multinational. And thats a problem.
and was pretty bitter. Maybe I'm wrong but I think both speak more about what is possible and not so much as insulting. So the party is mad at "establishment" candidate's because they didnt do what was promised, but yet won't look at guys being realistic?
Know your a libertarian but sounds like your down on the Rep. Party. What's your take on Paul?
Well you might consider Kasich realistic, but I don't. The guy was just saying that we have to expand Medicare because of the bible. If Carson or Cruz wanted to base policy on the Bible, people would be freaking out over it. Besides the fact that charity, as represented in Christianity, is not about taking someone else's money and giving it away, it's about giving your own money.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
of alienating the base talking about how he would have to 'lose the primary to win the General'. Don't these guys know that everything they say is broadcast all over the world?
Boehner just announced that he will remain until a new Speaker is chosen. That reduces the risks of a full-blown crisis, but leaves more contentious issues, like funding of the Federal Highway Trust Fund, up in the air.
I can easily envision a situation where no one that's left can get the requisite 218 votes, and Boehner remains until the presidential election or he gets sick of it all, whichever comes first.
Also today, Ryan has once again says he's not a candidate.
RE: RE: RE: Personally, as a AA, I do Think Ben Carson...
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
What he means is that you lose control of your healthcare. He's making an analogy.
Really, to get your panties in a wad about a statement like that is absurd. I think you are just looking for excuses to not like him because he's a black conservative.
As far as the respect question, you were the one who saidthat you 'can't expect to get any respect from the black community by saying certain things'. I was simply asking if that extended to using a racist term against another African American.
RE: RE: Personally, as a AA, I do Think Ben Carson...
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
Buford.
I ask you, do these things compare at all.
when the White communities started to feel the pain as well.
But this disinvestment in capital started happening in the 60's before I was born and now everyone is starting to feel it as well, because this outsourcing is just not to other parts of the state or country anymore.
These jobs are going oversees.
R's & D's both played a heavy roles in this.
The Great Society is a scapegoat and has really helped people alot all these years.
If anything, Defense Contractors & Big Corporations are the biggest and laziest welfare queens ever.
Fact. In 2012 a person making 50k gave $36 a year to people on food stamps and $870 in direct subsidies and grants to corporations. Treasury lost $181 billion dollars in corporate subsidies that year.
As they say, when you walk down the middle of the street you get hit on both sides. Libertarians call him a sellout, conservatives say he's an isolationist, a nave pacifist, soft on crime, a libertine who only cares about legalizing drugs, etc.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Personally, as a AA, I do Think Ben Carson...
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
What he means is that you lose control of your healthcare. He's making an analogy.
Really, to get your panties in a wad about a statement like that is absurd. I think you are just looking for excuses to not like him because he's a black conservative.
As far as the respect question, you were the one who saidthat you 'can't expect to get any respect from the black community by saying certain things'. I was simply asking if that extended to using a racist term against another African American.
Have you seen my earlier posts?
I like Michael Steele, JC Watts, Colon Powell, Tim Scott, who are conservatives, but they will not say stupid shit like that, especially running for president......
Dude, Slavery was much more than losing your choice in healthcare providers. Slavery was losing your freedom of doing anything of choice. It meant having a child and never seeing them again after a couple of weeks or days.
It's the worst analogy you can give, quite frankly.
If that had been a conservative professor?
Well, she should be fired or disciplined if the said that, but he is a Loon because he says stupid shit everyday.
"Gayness must be a choice, because prisoners who are raped come out gay"
"Obamacare is worse than slavery. We live in a Gestapo age."
"The Big Bang is a fairy tale and the notion of evolution was encouraged by the devil."
"Theres no war on women; there may be a war on womens insides."
"Theres no war on women; there may be a war on womens insides."
"Planned Parenthood is a plot to kill black babies."
Now, he has a right to say these things & some Blacks will call him a Coon for these very statements.
But he is definitely a Loon.
Until that changes, which it probably won't any time soon, Republicans will have a massive advantage at the state and local level. There is good news and bad news in that--the bad news coming on social issues, and on unwillingness to spend on infrastructure projects and maintenance. Nevertheless, it is what it is, and I don;t see it changing any time soon.
And yes, in some state dominated by Republicans, governing has gotten really crazy. Kansas/Brownback is the worst example of that.
At the Federal level, some of the same issues exist, but they aren't as egregious or important, imo. At the same time, some of the major social issues play out on a leveraged basis at the Federal level, and that helps keep Democrats in the game, and probably with a significant advantage, in national elections. The other advantage Democrats have at the Federal level, imo, is the strong believe in the Tea Party crowd that compromise, or even governing/government, is a bad idea.
As a consequence, there is a substantial dichotomy between party affiliation at the state and local level and at the Federal level.
This is reflected in the proportion of independents. I don't knwo where the idea comes from that there aren't a lot of independents. In a Gallup survey earlier this year, 43% identified as political independents. Are they all lying? Doubtful.
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That's generally considered to be a poor strategy in the pursuit of elected office, going out of your way to anger the people you want to vote for you.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
I forgot to say I respect Michael Steele, J. C. Watts & Tim Scott, and other black R's who I forget at this time who don't say outlandish things to simply to appease others in the party.
If that had been a conservative professor?
Apparently (or arguably? -- I didnt know this) that term has a very different definition within the black community, and the professor in question is black.
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Because they would hemorrhage support from their existing voters while likely only picking up a trickle of new supporters to replace them. You're suggesting that there is a vast pool of potential voters who simply won't vote Republican because of what...abortion? Do you really think there are many Democrat voters who'd flip if the GOP would only embrace abortion?
Probably not, but I don't the abortion position as something so a la carte as that. His position on abortion would just be representative of a different-from-average way of thinking for a conservative.
WHo are you speaking about?
It was a hypothetical "His..." no one specific and I probably should have said their.
There is a war on women?
Many black Republicans have pointed out that nearly 50 years of "Great Society" policies designed to level the playing field seemed to have had the opposite effect (education, crime/drug use, poverty, unemployment, social welfare dependency). Not sure what the answers are, but what's been tried has failed miserably.
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A liberal professor at the University of Pennsylvania just called Ben Carson a "coon" and she still has her job.
If that had been a conservative professor?
Well, she should be fired or disciplined if the said that, but he is a Loon because he says stupid shit everyday.
"Gayness must be a choice, because prisoners who are raped come out gay"
"Obamacare is worse than slavery. We live in a Gestapo age."
"The Big Bang is a fairy tale and the notion of evolution was encouraged by the devil."
"Theres no war on women; there may be a war on womens insides."
"Theres no war on women; there may be a war on womens insides."
"Planned Parenthood is a plot to kill black babies."
Now, he has a right to say these things & some Blacks will call him a Coon for these very statements.
But he is definitely a Loon.
We know Carson is a smart man, a surgeon trained in the sciences.
He also thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old.
Then we hear quotes such as these, and it just flabbergasts you.............
What false equivalency?
Know your a libertarian but sounds like your down on the Rep. Party. What's your take on Paul?
The inability to see the false equivalency is ultimately what separates us between the left from the right
He would absolutely be my preferred choice among this field, though.
The inability to see the false equivalency is ultimately what separates us between the left from the right
You simply can't/won't admit your own biases. The fact that you label yourself as moderate independent is a joke. At least own up to who and what you are.
Your leading candidates right now are Trump, Carson and Fiorina....
with that simple piece of information, not sure what ground you can stand on.
Uh, yes. There is a difference between Jay-Z dropping the N-bomb and Jeb Bush doing the same. Is this a foreign concept to you?
There is a war on women?
Many black Republicans have pointed out that nearly 50 years of "Great Society" policies designed to level the playing field seemed to have had the opposite effect (education, crime/drug use, poverty, unemployment, social welfare dependency). Not sure what the answers are, but what's been tried has failed miserably.
Eric I think the main thing is unemployment, but when you look at the disinvestment of Capital in the black communities, No Great Society program is gonna help when they are no jobs where there were jobs before.
I hear Conservatives talk about Baltimore, and other black majority cities, but look back to the 50's and 60's when these communities were thriving, but when you go to Baltimore now and see shell of factories from yesteryear, not only was there White Flight to the suburbs, there was capital flight from these same neighborhoods.
When my family used to drive to Baltimore from Landover MD as a kid, my grandmother used always say its a shame what they did to this city shipping all those jobs elsewhere, as we all gaze upon that abandoned Domino sugar factory.
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To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.
But this disinvestment in capital started happening in the 60's before I was born and now everyone is starting to feel it as well, because this outsourcing is just not to other parts of the state or country anymore.
These jobs are going oversees.
R's & D's both played a heavy roles in this.
The Great Society is a scapegoat and has really helped people alot all these years.
If anything, Defense Contractors & Big Corporations are the biggest and laziest welfare queens ever.
.@GOPLeader McCarthy just got "Chaffetzed."Something I know a little something about. #selfpromoter #powerhungry
I haven't made myself out to be unbiased or a moderate independent. Years ago I was a liberal Democrat. Now a Tea Party conservative.
I'm not pretending to be something I'm not.
I'm merely pointing out that you simply refuse to accept the lenses in which you see the world. You see bias on FOX (which obviously exists) but can't see the same bias in other media outlets (did you happen to miss NBC's week of Hilliary promotion?). You see obstinate Republican Congressmen, but don't see the same on the Democratic side.
GMenLTS sounds like an independent because he sees the problems and hypocrisy with both sides.
Right-wing media - both TV and especially radio - but there is dissent. Look at McCarthy. He's been vilified harshly on the right, especially on radio. Trump? There are people on FOX who blow smoke up his ass while others who say he is a running joke.
I can easily envision a situation where no one that's left can get the requisite 218 votes, and Boehner remains until the presidential election or he gets sick of it all, whichever comes first.
But in order to increase investment in these states and cities, you have to put in policies that are pro-business. That's the lesson many mayors and governors have learned. Look at South Carolina. They've done a great job of expanding job growth in that state.
Billions have been spent on Baltimore and it gets worse and worse. Dumping tax payer money on the problem isn't fixing it.
You have to fix the economy.
joke.
The one skeleton he has was that he was a moron and he let that out pretty quick. He's too boring to have any others.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
I've heard slight rumblings about a Clinton-Huntsman ticket. I dont buy it, since it would seriously piss off most Clinton voters if Huntsman ended up having to actually do his job and take over the presidency. But I've heard it suggested.
But in order to increase investment in these states and cities, you have to put in policies that are pro-business. That's the lesson many mayors and governors have learned. Look at South Carolina. They've done a great job of expanding job growth in that state.
Billions have been spent on Baltimore and it gets worse and worse. Dumping tax payer money on the problem isn't fixing it.
You have to fix the economy.
Yes, More jobs, less welfare programs. I just hope that these Multinational Corporations agree as well. I know most US based businesses will agree.
The problem is that some previously US based are now Multinational. And thats a problem.
Know your a libertarian but sounds like your down on the Rep. Party. What's your take on Paul?
Well you might consider Kasich realistic, but I don't. The guy was just saying that we have to expand Medicare because of the bible. If Carson or Cruz wanted to base policy on the Bible, people would be freaking out over it. Besides the fact that charity, as represented in Christianity, is not about taking someone else's money and giving it away, it's about giving your own money.
Palling around with the loathsome Bloomberg is no way to connect with primary voters, either.
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is a Coon, but thats just me.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
I can easily envision a situation where no one that's left can get the requisite 218 votes, and Boehner remains until the presidential election or he gets sick of it all, whichever comes first.
Also today, Ryan has once again says he's not a candidate.
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is a Coon, but thats just me.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
What he means is that you lose control of your healthcare. He's making an analogy.
Really, to get your panties in a wad about a statement like that is absurd. I think you are just looking for excuses to not like him because he's a black conservative.
As far as the respect question, you were the one who saidthat you 'can't expect to get any respect from the black community by saying certain things'. I was simply asking if that extended to using a racist term against another African American.
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is a Coon, but thats just me.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
Buford.
I ask you, do these things compare at all.
But this disinvestment in capital started happening in the 60's before I was born and now everyone is starting to feel it as well, because this outsourcing is just not to other parts of the state or country anymore.
These jobs are going oversees.
R's & D's both played a heavy roles in this.
The Great Society is a scapegoat and has really helped people alot all these years.
If anything, Defense Contractors & Big Corporations are the biggest and laziest welfare queens ever.
Fact. In 2012 a person making 50k gave $36 a year to people on food stamps and $870 in direct subsidies and grants to corporations. Treasury lost $181 billion dollars in corporate subsidies that year.
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is a Coon, but thats just me.
I'm not saying that just because he's a Black Republican.
You just can't say those things and expect to get any respect from the black community.
MIchael Steele & J. C. Watts are Republicans who I disagree with most of the time, but these are things they probably don't agree with and things they would never say as a matter of opinion or policy.
So calling another black person a coon gets you respect from the black community?
99% of Blacks do not go around looking for respect from other Blacks....Respect is generally given initially, like other humans you know.
Thats kinda of a weird question.
Carson had the upmost respect from everyone especially from the AA community. But when you start saying a health care law compares to SLAVERY, what in the fuck are AA supposed to think?
You tell me, Buford. What is a person to think of that statement?
What he means is that you lose control of your healthcare. He's making an analogy.
Really, to get your panties in a wad about a statement like that is absurd. I think you are just looking for excuses to not like him because he's a black conservative.
As far as the respect question, you were the one who saidthat you 'can't expect to get any respect from the black community by saying certain things'. I was simply asking if that extended to using a racist term against another African American.
Have you seen my earlier posts?
I like Michael Steele, JC Watts, Colon Powell, Tim Scott, who are conservatives, but they will not say stupid shit like that, especially running for president......
Dude, Slavery was much more than losing your choice in healthcare providers. Slavery was losing your freedom of doing anything of choice. It meant having a child and never seeing them again after a couple of weeks or days.
It's the worst analogy you can give, quite frankly.