FF thread 10-09

15 pts. 98 yrds and 1 TD!

without knowing scoring and league set up.

Cooper is a beast. Dont trade him.

My big decision is this...

Crabtree
Austin
Martellus Bennett.

Need 1.

In comment 12536028 dep026 said:

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without knowing scoring and league set up. Cooper is a beast. Dont trade him. My big decision is this... Crabtree Austin Martellus Bennett. Need 1.

It's tough to make a decision without knowing scoring/league setup. I'd go with the Black Unicorn.

Maybe I'm missing something there.


I'm in desperate times at RB. Stewart (who's sucked) is on a bye, Karlos Williams is out and my only other backup is David Johnson who looks like he's the odd man out this week.

I desperately need a RB this week off waivers and its slim pickings. Both Washington backup RB's are available (Thompson and Jones), Charles Sims as well. It's slim pickins.

Anyone got any sleepers this week? Dixon is not available.

He has taken over for Sanky there?

Dixon has a groin issue, so they signed Herron. Looks like both will play, but Herron could get a decent share of the touches.

Andrews is not available but Herron is, I will keep an eye on that situation. Think I'm leaning towards Thompson at the moment.

I read that too fast.

I'd go Thompson then, Washington figures to be playing catchup with Atlanta so he should get a bunch of dumpoffs.

0.5 PPR

Antonio Andrews v Buffalo
Reuben Randle v SF
Tavon Austin v GB

Already starting Beckham and Eli so leaning against RR since that would be a lot of eggs in one basket.

I like the potential both - Williams has a better situation now but I don't know if Ellington and CK2K will hold up all season. Johnson could see a lot of carries later in the season. I suppose McCoy's injury could linger as well.

even with a healthy McCoy he's going to get his touches.

but it wouldn't shock me at all if Johnson has more value down the stretch. If you can afford to keep both I would.

I'm looking to make a trade with a guy who has Hopkins and DeMarco Murray. I really want to buy low on Murray, he can't be this bad all season right?

My RB's are L. Murray, Gordon, Yeldon and I wanted to package Demaryius Thomas and Gordon for Hopkins and Murray. Is that stupid? Is it really just a wash?

Its a .5 PPR.

In comment 12536028 dep026 said:

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without knowing scoring and league set up. Cooper is a beast. Dont trade him. My big decision is this... Crabtree Austin Martellus Bennett. Need 1.

Bennett for sure IMO, particularly if it's PPR, and especially with Alshon still out.

Keep Cooper. Both those defenses are awesome (I have one in each league), and DEF is hard to predict week to week anyway. I'd just trade whichever you get get more for.

In comment 12536045 Andy in Halifax said:

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Maybe I'm missing something there. I'm in desperate times at RB. Stewart (who's sucked) is on a bye, Karlos Williams is out and my only other backup is David Johnson who looks like he's the odd man out this week. I desperately need a RB this week off waivers and its slim pickings. Both Washington backup RB's are available (Thompson and Jones), Charles Sims as well. It's slim pickins. Anyone got any sleepers this week? Dixon is not available.

Is Bradshaw available? I have a feeling he will be signed very soon based on reports and Pagano's comments about him. Might not help this week, but will shore up your situation moving forward.

have value right now at RB. Andrews is a question mark but if he's playing well I can see them sticking with the hot hand. Thompson I just picked up but not starting. Another 3 RB rotation but with the Skins likely playing behind almost every game, a pass catching 3rd down back has good value.

Outside of that maybe Herron for this week. I'm not picking him up since he's not a long term option.

I'm being offered:

Send Rashad Jennings, NYG RB from RB to THOM
Send Dorial Green-Beckham, Ten WR from Bench to THOM
Send Chris Johnson, Ari RB from Bench to THOM

FOR

Receive Charles Sims, TB RB from THOM to Bench
Receive Jarvis Landry, Mia WR from THOM to Bench
Receive Bishop Sankey, Ten RB from THOM to Bench

I have Freeman, Joseph Randle, Matt Jones at RB. I am already 0-4 but I guess could use a WR (Landry)...pretty bland trade but should I do it?

I'd be receiving Landry in the deal

it won't change your team. You are better off trying to package Chris Johnson while he has value, with Jennings for a WR2. Landry is going to be erratic all season unless you think Miami will miraculously change the way they play.

As a Cameron owner, I'd stay away from all things Miami.

More so in PPR. I offered Jennings and Rishard Matthews for Landry (to start a conversation) and the owner got so upset that he told me to fuck off.

But I guess he's pretty meh in standard.

I cut Vinatieri yesterday for Josh Brown.

I started Texans D (who got me 0.0)

Andre Johnson comes alive (nobody started him)

Opponent had D. Hopkins.

Ugh. I can't believe how bad Texans D has been.

In comment 12536415 Sly Guy said:

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More so in PPR. I offered Jennings and Rishard Matthews for Landry (to start a conversation) and the owner got so upset that he told me to fuck off. But I guess he's pretty meh in standard.

I get what you were trying to do, but i probably would of told you to fuck off to haha...

Dont worry i have had people tell me i am nuts and not counter, it happens..

I offered a trade tell me if i am nuts:

I offered Cobb, Latavius Murray and TJ Yeldo for Julio and Vereen...

My starting team would then be:

Newton
Bell, vereen or Blount or Cj
Bekcham, Julio, Cooper
Whitten
Santos
Giants

i am 4-0 right now

..

I've been waiting on Julius Thomas to come off my bench, but of course he's going on 5 weeks out. Streaming has been terrible. I'm constantly one week behind on getting the good streamers. Non PPR league.

This week I've got Richard Rodgers from GB. Since Olsen has a bye and Thomas is likely still out, would you make the move to put in a waiver claim (Thomas for Olsen) and just ride the season out with Olsen, or would that be settling for less, based on the upside potential of Thomas, whenever he gets back?

Hankerson, Hurns and Aiken are all available as free agents. Would you feel comfortable rolling with Bryant? or would you pick up one of the other WR's?

In comment 12536432 FranknWeezer said:

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I've been waiting on Julius Thomas to come off my bench, but of course he's going on 5 weeks out. Streaming has been terrible. I'm constantly one week behind on getting the good streamers. Non PPR league. This week I've got Richard Rodgers from GB. Since Olsen has a bye and Thomas is likely still out, would you make the move to put in a waiver claim (Thomas for Olsen) and just ride the season out with Olsen, or would that be settling for less, based on the upside potential of Thomas, whenever he gets back?

Thats tough, i am kind of in the same situation but i got tired of waiting and traded for Kelce...

Coleman and Miller were both dropped in my league and i might release Thomas for one and one of my extra Rbs for the other...I just have a bad feeling though Thomas puts up big numbers when he comes back

In comment 12536425 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 12536415 Sly Guy said: Quote: More so in PPR. I offered Jennings and Rishard Matthews for Landry (to start a conversation) and the owner got so upset that he told me to fuck off. But I guess he's pretty meh in standard. I get what you were trying to do, but i probably would of told you to fuck off to haha... Dont worry i have had people tell me i am nuts and not counter, it happens.. I offered a trade tell me if i am nuts: I offered Cobb, Latavius Murray and TJ Yeldo for Julio and Vereen... My starting team would then be: Newton Bell, vereen or Blount or Cj Bekcham, Julio, Cooper Whitten Santos Giants i am 4-0 right now

Oh man, I really don't like that trade on your end. I'm a Vereen owner, and have no confidence starting him. I think you're trading a WR1 in Cobb, an RB1 in Murray (own him and love him), and someone turning into an RB2 in Yeldon for Julio and a low end Flex.

I'd honestly cancel that trade before he accepted it, but that's just my opinion.

On one hand i love getting Julio to pair with Cooper and Bekcham, yeldon is just sitting on my bench...

I agree Murray has been great for me so far...

In comment 12536450 nygiants16 said:

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On one hand i love getting Julio to pair with Cooper and Bekcham, yeldon is just sitting on my bench... I agree Murray has been great for me so far...

Yeah, but Murray is dinged, and I think it's good to have Yeldon's security. You could probably get that deal done by removing Vereen by offering Cobb and Yeldon. I'd keep Murray out of that deal.

Who do you guys think is a better start this week I'm ravaged by byes at WR, and am in a position where I'm starting AJ, Kenny Britt, and Kamar Aiken.

Do you think I should drop Britt or Aiken for Cole Beasley this week?

In comment 12536433 Jon said:

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Hankerson, Hurns and Aiken are all available as free agents. Would you feel comfortable rolling with Bryant? or would you pick up one of the other WR's?

Aiken i think is going to get better and better as the year goes, especially with smith banged up...

Hurns, got a ton of targets last week because they took away Robinson, will hekeep getting the targets even when Thomas comes back?

Hankerson, has been good BUT is he going to be consistent?

Bryant, you are going to have some duds because Vick is the Qb for at least 4 more weeks, will he be targeted enough? Vick is going to look for Brown and Bell first

and Julius Thomas are both FA.

I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim.

Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option:

Olsen. He's arguably the 2nd best TE in football.

Who cares about Julius Thomas, its anyone's guess what he does without Peyton. He will probably miss more weeks after he comes back too.

In comment 12536260 UConn4523 said:

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but it wouldn't shock me at all if Johnson has more value down the stretch. If you can afford to keep both I would. I'm looking to make a trade with a guy who has Hopkins and DeMarco Murray. I really want to buy low on Murray, he can't be this bad all season right? My RB's are L. Murray, Gordon, Yeldon and I wanted to package Demaryius Thomas and Gordon for Hopkins and Murray. Is that stupid? Is it really just a wash? Its a .5 PPR.

Any opinions on this?

also

In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said:

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and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option:

I'd drop Vereen... and then I'd probably drop Matthews for the other. I'd prefer to drop Britt over Matthews, but you need him for this week. I'm ok dropping Matthews though, I think Parker is going to start getting more work out of the bye and with Stills now getting involved I don't think there are going to be consistent targets for Matthews going forward.

In comment 12536468 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 12536260 UConn4523 said: Quote: but it wouldn't shock me at all if Johnson has more value down the stretch. If you can afford to keep both I would. I'm looking to make a trade with a guy who has Hopkins and DeMarco Murray. I really want to buy low on Murray, he can't be this bad all season right? My RB's are L. Murray, Gordon, Yeldon and I wanted to package Demaryius Thomas and Gordon for Hopkins and Murray. Is that stupid? Is it really just a wash? Its a .5 PPR. Any opinions on this?

I dont know if it is just a wash, Hopkins it seems like is targeted on every single pass..Peyton seems to love to go to Sanders, especially on 3rd down..

I dunno it is a toss up to me, if you knew Murray was going to turn around i would do it in a heartbeat..

In comment 12536472 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said: Quote: and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option: I'd drop Vereen... and then I'd probably drop Matthews for the other. I'd prefer to drop Britt over Matthews, but you need him for this week. I'm ok dropping Matthews though, I think Parker is going to start getting more work out of the bye and with Stills now getting involved I don't think there are going to be consistent targets for Matthews going forward.

Yeah, I'm a little concerned that Matthews targets are going to evaporate with Stills and Parker getting more involved, but I was going to wait one more week and see based on his early season production.

I guess I'll drop Vereen for Thomas. He just hasn't been consistent enough this week. Part of me wants to wait it out until this week, but I think Thomas will get picked up on Waivers after this week so this is pretty much my only shot to grab him.

My long term plan is to trade either Thomas or Eifert for a WR/RB down the line if Thomas can pick it up when he comes back.

In comment 12536457 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 12536433 Jon said: Quote: Hankerson, Hurns and Aiken are all available as free agents. Would you feel comfortable rolling with Bryant? or would you pick up one of the other WR's? Aiken i think is going to get better and better as the year goes, especially with smith banged up... Hurns, got a ton of targets last week because they took away Robinson, will hekeep getting the targets even when Thomas comes back? Hankerson, has been good BUT is he going to be consistent? Bryant, you are going to have some duds because Vick is the Qb for at least 4 more weeks, will he be targeted enough? Vick is going to look for Brown and Bell first

Those are all the same concerns I have. Ive also read that Bryant missed practice this week. I have SS Sr and Landry on my bench so I just need a short term fill in.

Chris Thompson in a 14 team PPR.

Hope I can pick him up again next week, my Rb's are horrid though. I have woodhead carrying my RB team, Anderson and Stewart were my top 2 picks. So Disappointing, I even dropped Stewart for a gamble on Antonio Andrews. Being that I'm in 1st place I have to take gambles as I'm never going to get anyone good off the waiver wire when they are hot.

In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said:

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and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option:

Kenny Britt come on that's easy! Drop Britt for Julius

In comment 12536473 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 12536468 UConn4523 said: Quote: In comment 12536260 UConn4523 said: Quote: but it wouldn't shock me at all if Johnson has more value down the stretch. If you can afford to keep both I would. I'm looking to make a trade with a guy who has Hopkins and DeMarco Murray. I really want to buy low on Murray, he can't be this bad all season right? My RB's are L. Murray, Gordon, Yeldon and I wanted to package Demaryius Thomas and Gordon for Hopkins and Murray. Is that stupid? Is it really just a wash? Its a .5 PPR. Any opinions on this? I dont know if it is just a wash, Hopkins it seems like is targeted on every single pass..Peyton seems to love to go to Sanders, especially on 3rd down.. I dunno it is a toss up to me, if you knew Murray was going to turn around i would do it in a heartbeat..

Yeah, at this time, I'd put Hopkins value over Thomas's. I also think there's a chance of Peyton hitting that wall at the end of the season as well. I'm not sure if Murray is going to pick it back up, but Gordon is in a timeshare anyway. Yeldon is turning into a bellcow anyway.

I like the Hopkins-Murray end of that trade.

In comment 12536490 Mr. Nickels said:

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In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said: Quote: and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option: Kenny Britt come on that's easy! Drop Britt for Julius

He's starting this week, that's my problem. My starters are on byes. I'd have to take a loss this week to get Julius.

I think you are getting hosed. You trade 3 very good to great players for one great player and one crap(fantasy) player. That makes your team worse no doubt

since Hopkins already went lastnight.

In comment 12536492 Sonic Youth said:

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In comment 12536490 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said: Quote: and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option: Kenny Britt come on that's easy! Drop Britt for Julius He's starting this week, that's my problem. My starters are on byes. I'd have to take a loss this week to get Julius.

Sorry I didn't realize that. Hate mandatory 3 WRs. Then yes as long as it's standard I guess Vereen but after this week I would drop Britt and get him back if possible.

and already regret it. This will probably blow up in my face once Forte or Murray gets injured unless Hyde gets going.

God damnit Kapernick, you suck so fucking much and you're fucking up Hyde's fantasy season!

In comment 12536497 Mr. Nickels said:

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In comment 12536492 Sonic Youth said: Quote: In comment 12536490 Mr. Nickels said: Quote: In comment 12536462 Sonic Youth said: Quote: and Julius Thomas are both FA. I'm using all my back roster players as starters this week due to byes, but I really want to drop one to pick up Thomas as a FA so I don't have to use a waiver claim for him. This way, I can scoop up Thomas or Coleman without burning a waiver claim. Who would you drop on this team to pick one or both of them up? Vereen seems the most droppable option: Kenny Britt come on that's easy! Drop Britt for Julius He's starting this week, that's my problem. My starters are on byes. I'd have to take a loss this week to get Julius. Sorry I didn't realize that. Hate mandatory 3 WRs. Then yes as long as it's standard I guess Vereen but after this week I would drop Britt and get him back if possible.

It was PPR. I did it anyway. The way I look at it, I can probably trade Thomas for a player equal to Vereen at some point down the line, and Vereen will never really own the Giants backfield anyway since they use their RBs equally.

My WRs are

Alshon Jeffery
Brandin Cooks
Amari Cooper
Kendall Wright
Travis Benjamin

Third RB is Ronnie Hillman or Ameer Abdullah.

I lost last week with Hillman on the bench and Abdullah starting.

Which 3 do I start in a half PPR? I need 2 WR and 1 FLEX.

Right now i have Jeffery Cooper and Hillman in.

Is Jeffery finally going to play?? If he does he is must start.

If Jeffery does play would you start Wright Benjamin or Cooks over Cooper this week due to Cooper's bad matchup?

At this point I am not starting Cooks unless I have to despite his great matchup and he probably goes off the second I bench him.

Travis Benjamin is now legit and facing a bad pass D. His targets are now sustainable and he has double digit fantasy points every week.

Kendall Wright is also facing a weak pass D though Michael Fabiano says sit him and play Benjamin because the Bills shut down #1 WRs but isn't Wright more of a slot?


Abdullah is at home and likely Bell is out again. I went with him over Gurley and Hillman because no Bell despite the matchup and got burned. At least he is home this time with the Lions desperate but Arizona is tough D.

Hillman - I think he finally takes the starting job and at bare minimum he is getting goal line carries. CJ Anderson still looms though. If Denver gets up big they could be running a lot. Their run game has sucked so far minus the big TD run but they have showed signs of improving and Hillman is trending up.

guy, his wrs suck though.

I have

Luck/Eli
Abdullah/Jennings/Rawls/djohnson
OBJ/Calvin/Julio/Hankerson/Hurns/AJohnson/Cruz
Barnidge


I'd have initially said no, waiting for Calvin to up his value back up but yeldon is a starter and hillman may be one soon. With Andre maybe getting his shit together, hankerson/hurns looking like legit starters or tradepieces, and the possibility of the cruz bonus comeback, I'm more inclined to sell low on Calvin to shore up my RBs.

Most of me still says it's too early to sell this low on calvin.

Problem is I'm 1-3 and feeling anxious.

In comment 12536588 GMenLTS said:

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guy, his wrs suck though. I have Luck/Eli Abdullah/Jennings/Rawls/djohnson OBJ/Calvin/Julio/Hankerson/Hurns/AJohnson/Cruz Barnidge I'd have initially said no, waiting for Calvin to up his value back up but yeldon is a starter and hillman may be one soon. With Andre maybe getting his shit together, hankerson/hurns looking like legit starters or tradepieces, and the possibility of the cruz bonus comeback, I'm more inclined to sell low on Calvin to shore up my RBs. Most of me still says it's too early to sell this low on calvin. Problem is I'm 1-3 and feeling anxious.

Not a bad trade. You start OBJ and Julio anyway. Yeldon and Hillman are at least starters and arguably would be your top 2 (still have some faith in Abdullah)