Very evenly matched. It's going to come down to a few key situations. Few teams can matchup vs our rotation but LA is one of them. Our pitching advantage would be tangible if this were a seven game series and one of DeGrom/Harvey/Thor/Matz pitched every game while Kershaw/Greinke could only take the mound 4 times.
Prediction: Murphy will end up the hero or the goat. He'll either hit in the clutch or meltdown in the field or on the basepaths. Flip a coin it could go either way.
If Kershaw and Greinke consistently pitch into the 8th and 9th, it's hard to see the Mets winning this series.
Conversely, that is exactly what we need from our young staff. Keep that bullpen (minus Familia and maybe Clip for a few outs) from factoring into this series.
is beatable and I know his playoff numbers but he's still the best pitcher in baseball and a scary guy to face. I see a few too many Mets fans over confident because of his playoff numbers. That said, beat his ass!
Im hoping the first inning we can scrape a run across before he settles in. If nothing else, we need Granderson, ect to work some really good long atbats. Make this sucker work as we did to the Nats in both sweeps.
ace on the mound too. DeGrom looked great his last two starts. Let's have Jake through some zeroes up there and let's run into a pitch or two. Mets can win this series if we lose tonight, but they'll have really taken the edge if they can find a way tonight.
Feeling was like. Waking up to a baseball playoff game. Amazing feeling.
I have grown more and more nervous as this week has progressed. I think we have more talent overall, but facing Kershaw and Greinke twice basically negates any advantage our lineup has over theres. Same goes for our starting pitching advantage.
Like everyone has said, I think every game is going to be close, save for Game 3 where we should have the huge pitching advantage. Praying we get the breaks and they dont.
but Kershaw's post-season rack record is a joke for someone who's supposed to be the best of his mini-era.
Clayton Kershaw is so good he struck out 301 people this year and no one gave a shit. 300+ Ks in 2015 is just a ridiculous accomplishment.
He's amazing. But he needs to step up and play his best in the biggest games for once. Otherwise he's going to go down as a choker, fair or not. Looking forward to the great pitching matchups in this series. But Kershaw's the most important player in the series imo.
boss is a big time Yankee fan who casually likes to crack jokes at the Mets expense. To see a parade in front of our office (his window would see every moment) would be absolutely incredible lol
We have a healthy Wright going against Kershaw. Huge difference maker having owned lefties his whole career. With Cuddyer's postseason success and history of owning lefties also I could see him playing a part. Let's hope.
God I hate Rollins...he's only got 13 HRs and I think half of them
we're still against the Mets. I hope we go up by 10 and then drill one right between the numbers on Rollins. Just because he's an irritating doosh, lol.
Not so easy hitting HRs when not in CBP, huh? He can take his underserved MVP award and ride off into the sunset.
may or may not have deserved MVP but he had an absolutely INCREDIBLE season in 2007. Really hard to argue against him winning in my book. 38 doubles, 20 triples, 30 homers, 41 steals, while playing GG defense.
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have a better lineup, and a better bullpen. Question is can they win at least 1 against Kershaw and Greinke? They don't necessarily have to beat them personally, just outlast them and get into the bullpen the way the Yankees used to do against Pedro.
RE: God I hate Rollins...he's only got 13 HRs and I think half of them
we're still against the Mets. I hope we go up by 10 and then drill one right between the numbers on Rollins. Just because he's an irritating doosh, lol.
Not so easy hitting HRs when not in CBP, huh? He can take his underserved MVP award and ride off into the sunset.
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In 53 games at Citifield, he is hitting .322 with 11 HRs with an OBP near .400.
is beatable and I know his playoff numbers but he's still the best pitcher in baseball and a scary guy to face. I see a few too many Mets fans over confident because of his playoff numbers. That said, beat his ass!
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The legend of Corey Ragsdale II (Branden Kaupe) is over?!? NO!!!!! Mathieu couldn't hit but with his size I thought they would see if he could pitch.
while naturally I want you guys to get swept and I'd love to be here to soak up your tears (then cause more), this series is exciting as shit. Sucks that it won't end until 1:00am though.
I think LA wins the series, but the postseason experience will be great for your young douchebags going forward.
may or may not have deserved MVP but he had an absolutely INCREDIBLE season in 2007. Really hard to argue against him winning in my book. 38 doubles, 20 triples, 30 homers, 41 steals, while playing GG defense.
The ONLY reason Rollins won the MVP was because of his stupid "we're the team to beat" quote at the begin his of the year. Baseball writers ate that shit up like it was the Babe calling his HR shot.
Rollins had a great year but he wasn't even the third best player in the NL. Matt Holliday should have won it. If you don't like the COL factor then David Wright or Prince Fielder should have won it.
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RE: I have a feeling Cespedes is going to carry this team
He actually didn't do much the last three weeks, but the bigger the stage, the better he seems to play.
I agree - he is the most dangerous offensive player in this series, and I think he gives the Mets one of their slight edges. A few others have the ability to go off (AGon, Puig, Wright, Duda) but I think YC is the guy who most looks forward to the spotlight.
He's a complete wild card at this point. He has the same wild swing that Ces has. That and Gonzalez are what scare me right now. And Rollins will probably hit 8 HRs this series, lol.
Never been in the postseason. Who knows who has an extra gear under the bright lights? Maybe it's somebody like TDA. Maybe it's Duda? A whole new animal for a lot of these guys.
RE: I know he hasn't played in a while but Puig scares me
He's a complete wild card at this point. He has the same wild swing that Ces has. That and Gonzalez are what scare me right now. And Rollins will probably hit 8 HRs this series, lol.
I could see that fuck bag Utley coming off the bench late and hitting a garbage HR. Actually Turner scares me a lot too.
RE: RE: I know he hasn't played in a while but Puig scares me
He's a complete wild card at this point. He has the same wild swing that Ces has. That and Gonzalez are what scare me right now. And Rollins will probably hit 8 HRs this series, lol.
I could see that fuck bag Utley coming off the bench late and hitting a garbage HR. Actually Turner scares me a lot too.
If Turner would end up being the guy to beat us that would be a real kick in the rear.
Granderson. So many streaky players this year.... TDA, Cespedes, Duda.... The player I'm most confident in working a terrific at bat and getting on base somehow is Grandy and I'm betting he's in the middle of the scoring should it happen.
Second would be Murphy. He lives for big clutch moments.
LOOGY with so many relievers with reverse spits. Clippard might be the best reliever against lefties in this era. Or at least one of them. If we have to get a tough lefty out, we have the ammunition.
none of you guys are one of the Met fans calling Francessa today. Is anyone else listening to these people embarrass us all with absurd complaints about Harvey and which game he is pitching etc?
but no one is paying me to make those decisions and I'm not calling the radio to bitch about it. The rotation is what it is now it's time to play ball.
Niese may actually rise from the dead in this series
He may be quite useful. Gonzalez is 0-9 against him, Utley 3-32, Rollins 12-54 but perhaps more interesting is would Terry be willing to use him in a big spot against a right handed batters? There are some on the Dodgers roster who have terrible numbers against him. Kendrick 1-7, Puig 1-8, Rugganio 3-17. One or more of all these individuals left and right might come up in a big spot late in a game. I'll be curious to see how Terry plays that.
Terry managing the bullpen and Murphy having a spasm...
It has to be game 3. They needed to protect against the possibility of having deGom on short rest in game 4. If that happened and Harvey went game 2 and only pitched once in the series who would pitch game 5? Matz? Noah would only be on 2 days rest and couldn't do it in that scenario. So if Matz faltered in that game 5 you would not have deGrom, Harvey, or Thor out of the pen early in the game. You'd have to go to either Colon or Niese with your season on the line.
In the scenario they're going with it has the potential to be deGrom/Thor/Harvey/deGrom/Thor (on full rest for game 5). They didn't have much choice with Harvey only being able to pitch once in the series.
Genius! It's that easy! What happens if you lose Game 1? Well you're pitching a very inexperienced young man in game 2...on the road...in the biggest game of the season. Some would say a must win situation. I would. I'm now done with this conversation.
I hope we sweep them and win by 10 runs every game. Let's Go Mets!
It's nice to have the best player in the series wearing our unis. Go Cespedes!
Genius! It's that easy! What happens if you lose Game 1? Well you're pitching a very inexperienced young man in game 2...on the road...in the biggest game of the season. Some would say a must win situation. I would. I'm now done with this conversation.
I hope we sweep them and win by 10 runs every game. Let's Go Mets!
It's nice to have the best player in the series wearing our unis. Go Cespedes!
Thats why we play the games. Playoff baseball is as unpredictable as NHL playoffs.
What are the vegas odds on this series?
It has to be game 3. They needed to protect against the possibility of having deGom on short rest in game 4. If that happened and Harvey went game 2 and only pitched once in the series who would pitch game 5? Matz? Noah would only be on 2 days rest and couldn't do it in that scenario. So if Matz faltered in that game 5 you would not have deGrom, Harvey, or Thor out of the pen early in the game. You'd have to go to either Colon or Niese with your season on the line.
In the scenario they're going with it has the potential to be deGrom/Thor/Harvey/deGrom/Thor (on full rest for game 5). They didn't have much choice with Harvey only being able to pitch once in the series.
thank you. Now why is this so difficult to understand for so many people? And why do people mind Harvey going in game 3 at all?
game 3 is the only option for reasons other posters have stated. It allows us to bring back DeGrom on short rest in game 4 and use Thor in game 5 in full rest if necessary.
Harvey has already shown more balls than Strasburg did by even pitching in the playoffs. The plan is for him to pitch one game and have no limitations during that game. Regardless of how the series is going, Game 3 will be pivotal and we'll need Harvey for that game.
This should clue you in to the fact that there were other viable options. See the logic at work there? Now that the decision has been made it's full steam ahead.
I'm going to miss our SNY announcers. The national broadcast teams suck balls.
we are not dead if we go down 0-2. Obviously not ideal but we will have a huge advantage in game 3 and LA will not pitch Kershaw on short rest in Game 4 if they are ahead so we likely have the advantage again in Game 4. Harvey VS Thompson and deGrom VS Wood at home no less looks pretty lopsided. So that would set up a Kershaw VS Thor game 5 on regular rest for both.
I'd really hate our chances if we come home down 0-2
good thing about a short series is you only need to win 3/5. God forbid they go down 0-2 (I'd personally feel pretty close to "done") they still would only have to win 3 games in a row. I'm not into sports betting but this one seems too close to call. Wouldn't be surprised at any potential result. If I had a gun to my head I'd say Dodgers in 5 but who knows?
But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
crazy but 1 big play either way can really color how you feel about a player. Murphy with a huge error or a huge home run and suddenly the entire perception of the player changes.
But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
It would if we were down in the series heading into game 4. They aren't going to pitch Kershaw on short rest in that game unless they have to. Exactly same situation as us with deGrom.
My perception of Murphy won't change no matter which way it goes
...beacuse for good or ill he can come out tommorrow and flip the script. That's just who he is. He's been a Met long enough to know he isn't going to change.
Is winning tonight. Greinke has been every bit as good as Kershaw in 2015 and is the likely Cy Young winner. With nerves and excitement high, we might be able to score a few tonight before everyone settles in. Who knows though.
RE: My perception of Murphy won't change no matter which way it goes
...beacuse for good or ill he can come out tommorrow and flip the script. That's just who he is. He's been a Met long enough to know he isn't going to change.
If Murphy hits a NLCS winning walk off homer your thoughts/memories of him won't be any different than if he commits a series ending error or baserunning mistake? One play can change a players legacy.
...but I probably wouldn't offer him the QO this offseason no matter what he does in this playoffs.
I feel the exact opposite. I think offering it is a no-brainer. Worst case is overpaying a solid above average regular for 1 season and "block" Herrera. That worst case would mean Murphy would be the first player ever to accept the QO. I think offering it is a no-brainer if the Mets have even semi-normal finances.
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...in order to have the surety of Murphy's money available for next season's free agent market. Can you imagine if Murphy accepts the QO and we can't pursue Cespedes or other significant players because of it? I don't trust the Wilpons wallet enough to chance it. Flores or Herrera will play 2B, it's time.
RE: I'll risk losing the draft pick compensation...
...in order to have the surety of Murphy's money available for next season's free agent market. Can you imagine if Murphy accepts the QO and we can't pursue Cespedes or other significant players because of it? I don't trust the Wilpons wallet enough to chance it. Flores or Herrera will play 2B, it's time.
There is no realistic scenario where Daniel Murphy's 16 million is what keeps the Mets from keeping Cespedes/replacing him. If somebody said Murphy signed a 1 year extension last month at 12-13 million would anyone be thinking "oh no, Cespedes is walking!". They paid Dillon Gee, Parnell and Blevins 11.4 million this season.
You're experiences with this ownership must be far different than mine. Plus I just want Murphy gone. I've had my fill of knucklehead baseball. He's a one tool player with a head full of bad baseball wiring. It's past time to show him the door NLCS heroics or not.
You're experiences with this ownership must be far different than mine. Plus I just want Murphy gone. I've had my fill of knucklehead baseball. He's a one tool player with a head full of bad baseball wiring. It's past time to show him the door NLCS heroics or not.
The Mets ownership is horrendous but all it takes is backloading Cespedes deal 1 season and that's the difference between Parnell/Gee/Blevins and the Murphy "raise". If Cespedes is allowed to walk, Daniel Murphy will have zero impact on that decision. Personally, I'd love to see Murphy turn down the QO, Mets get a pick and slide in Herrera but I'd also be fine with Murphy at 2b again next year.
See, you're arguing a point because you don't like hearing the truth in this situation. If Harvey didn't come off TJ surgery and throw more innings than expected, there could be a discussion about all of this and it would be an interesting debate. I'm not saying "See Seth is always right" because they are pitching him in game 3 and I think it's actually a good option regardless of his status. This is exactly what I was talking about in the Ranger thread...I'm not giving you an opinion and telling you I'm always right. I'm telling you that this is what the team has to do and has said they are doing from the very first moment they talked about a playoff rotation. Yet people still feel the urge to complain as though they decided to pitch the guy once (hopefully only need him once anyway) because they don't want him to pitch twice if needed.
You got your snide comment in as though I was shitting on your opinion, because either it bothers you when I say anything, or it bothers you that you and many other Met fans are pissing into the wind and getting angry at the team as though there was a choice and they screwed it up. As others have said, he can only pitch once this series and it sets up ideally with him going Game 3 at home, first playoff game in Citi in a pivotal game and he can be unavailable after that because he can't pitch again anyway. It's amazing that on the radio, the whole day was filled with callers trying to argue something that is not debatable.
Murphy turns it down and we get the first round pick.
1.) He's a family man and needs to think about his long term security
2.) His value only goes down a year from now one year older
3.) He's in his prime of his career right now and might have the added hype of a good playoff series
4.) He's probably the best 2B/3B on the market.
But like Dan said, if the worst case scenario is having a 2.5 WAR player around that can play multiple positions for another year, Im pretty damn good with that too. There will be injuries and Herrera will still get his chances.
The guy is 30 years old. He is coming off his best year with 15 HR. He will sign the best longterm deal he gets. He would be crazy to jeopardize his one big payday by accepting a one year deal with Mets.
Seriously? He's one of the few players that finished the season hot and overall had one of the best season's on the team. You want him batting 7th or 8th??
The guy is 30 years old. He is coming off his best year with 15 HR. He will sign the best longterm deal he gets. He would be crazy to jeopardize his one big payday by accepting a one year deal with Mets.
The fact the "worst case" is him coming back for 1 year, if I ran the team it would be a no-brainer offer.
Seriously? He's one of the few players that finished the season hot and overall had one of the best season's on the team. You want him batting 7th or 8th??
All career numbers are SSS, but if your going go with that he should bat lower like flip cuddy with him. Murphy #4, i'm not happy about that.
Duda hitting 7th in front of Tejada. He's one of our best players, he's been hot, and he's hit lefties this year. You can't go off a handful of abats against kershaw as a barometer.
Duda hitting 7th in front of Tejada. He's one of our best players, he's been hot, and he's hit lefties this year. You can't go off a handful of abats against kershaw as a barometer.
I agree on that premise but this is Kershaw, not just another lefty. Frankly, I dont think it matters if your lefty or righty with Kershaw, he'll get you out most likely.
The guy is 30 years old. He is coming off his best year with 15 HR. He will sign the best longterm deal he gets. He would be crazy to jeopardize his one big payday by accepting a one year deal with Mets.
The fact the "worst case" is him coming back for 1 year, if I ran the team it would be a no-brainer offer.
Totally agree, Dan. At least a 90% chance he signs elsewhere and if he does come back, you get Murphy for another year without making a huge financial commitment.
I think that's why Terry essentially flipped them. Flo is 3-6 on the bench. Not sure I like that but where do you play him?
Tejada has good numbers against Kershaw. Collins has long eyed Tejada starting this game combined with all the back/strep stuff with Flores. Id personally rather have Flores at SS in this game. He's owned lefties this year. Not happy with the lineup at all but whatever.
and he actually has very little split over his career (.271 against lefties for his career.) I just hate him hitting 4th. Call me old fashion but I want our big bopper there and thats Duda.
Would prefer Flores but that's minor. Wright is best in the 2 hole not trying to do too much and Cespedes should get him some pitches to hit. Murphy consistently being the toughest out makes him a good fit to be the guy who comes up if they try to pitch around Yoenis.
Duda/TdA/Cuddyer in the back half all have boom/bust potential, but are where they should be because none have been consistent enough.
Is a joke on the basepaths and in the field but those dumb plays are way more rare than his consistency at the plate. I'm not aiming my point at anyone in particular but the heavy criticism towards Murphy is particularly weird this season. He's by far and away the most consistent hitter on the team when it comes to putting balls in play, not striking out and clutch hits. He was very good in the second half as the team made the push towards first place. Not a well rounded player at all but there's really no one you want in the box with a RISP than Murph, because he just never strikes out.
but no reason he couldn't do well in the Kelly Johnson role next year. He'd be expensive but it's better than losing him for nothing.
Yes his defense sucks. Yes his baseball IQ is terrible and his baserunning sucks. But he knows how to hit and he does it in the clutch. I'm fine with losing for a 1st round pick if someone else offers him a better contract but losing him for nothing would be stupid.
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has been just as streaky as anyone. So far he's come here and been ice cold, raging hot, then cold to end the year again. He also has a reputation for being very streaky before ever coming here.
Prediction: Murphy will end up the hero or the goat. He'll either hit in the clutch or meltdown in the field or on the basepaths. Flip a coin it could go either way.
If Kershaw and Greinke consistently pitch into the 8th and 9th, it's hard to see the Mets winning this series.
Conversely, that is exactly what we need from our young staff. Keep that bullpen (minus Familia and maybe Clip for a few outs) from factoring into this series.
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Just don't know who will win any of them.
Of course, having said that, tonight will likely be 7-2 Mets.
I have grown more and more nervous as this week has progressed. I think we have more talent overall, but facing Kershaw and Greinke twice basically negates any advantage our lineup has over theres. Same goes for our starting pitching advantage.
Like everyone has said, I think every game is going to be close, save for Game 3 where we should have the huge pitching advantage. Praying we get the breaks and they dont.
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Clayton Kershaw is so good he struck out 301 people this year and no one gave a shit. 300+ Ks in 2015 is just a ridiculous accomplishment.
He's amazing. But he needs to step up and play his best in the biggest games for once. Otherwise he's going to go down as a choker, fair or not. Looking forward to the great pitching matchups in this series. But Kershaw's the most important player in the series imo.
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I hope we hang 10 on him
I don't think you guys will have much trouble striking out 10 times, partner.
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I hope we hang 10 on him
I don't think you guys will have much trouble striking out 10 times, partner.
Go choke on a tomahawk
Can't wait, LGM!
Not so easy hitting HRs when not in CBP, huh? He can take his underserved MVP award and ride off into the sunset.
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Not so easy hitting HRs when not in CBP, huh? He can take his underserved MVP award and ride off into the sunset.
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In 53 games at Citifield, he is hitting .322 with 11 HRs with an OBP near .400.
Ha! Perfect! LETs GO METS!
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The legend of Corey Ragsdale II (Branden Kaupe) is over?!? NO!!!!! Mathieu couldn't hit but with his size I thought they would see if he could pitch.
I think LA wins the series, but the postseason experience will be great for your young douchebags going forward.
Players have to win it on the field. I think they can do it.
Players have to win it on the field. I think they can do it.
Well, his meltdown last year vs STL was in LA.
That said - I'm not expecting much at all tonight, but hopefully they can take Greinke down tomorrow and win the series in NY.
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The ONLY reason Rollins won the MVP was because of his stupid "we're the team to beat" quote at the begin his of the year. Baseball writers ate that shit up like it was the Babe calling his HR shot.
Rollins had a great year but he wasn't even the third best player in the NL. Matt Holliday should have won it. If you don't like the COL factor then David Wright or Prince Fielder should have won it.
I agree with this as a big concern. Hope Jake is on his A game tonight. Pumped!
I agree - he is the most dangerous offensive player in this series, and I think he gives the Mets one of their slight edges. A few others have the ability to go off (AGon, Puig, Wright, Duda) but I think YC is the guy who most looks forward to the spotlight.
I could see that fuck bag Utley coming off the bench late and hitting a garbage HR. Actually Turner scares me a lot too.
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He's a complete wild card at this point. He has the same wild swing that Ces has. That and Gonzalez are what scare me right now. And Rollins will probably hit 8 HRs this series, lol.
I could see that fuck bag Utley coming off the bench late and hitting a garbage HR. Actually Turner scares me a lot too.
Second would be Murphy. He lives for big clutch moments.
I heard he was activated for the NLDS.
Lol
Actually, the Braves play tomorrow.
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The Braves and Mets might score the same amount of runs tonight.
The x-factor for Dodgers is Seager. The kid is a legit talent.
But I'm getting the sense the Mets are going to destroy the Dodgers. Key is getting to Kershaw early. Get him thinking, "Here we go again."
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3-8 off Greinke
Here's to Kirk coming up with a moment as he did off Papelbon against Nats.
Niese was going to make it (as a reliever). I think the mild surprise is Colon AND Matz making it...
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Niese was going to make it (as a reliever). I think the mild surprise is Colon AND Matz making it...
There were many people who were defiant that Niese wasn't going to make the post season roster (and shouldn't).
3-8 off Greinke
But does he have incriminating photos of Terry Collins?
Me, too. They only have 1 lefty in the pen, and he's a guy not used to relieving...
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The Braves and Mets might score the same amount of runs tonight.
Nice of the Braves to schedule that scrimmage against the Gwinnett County LL all-stars. It's for the kids.
We actually have the opposite problem. It would be nice to have a guy that can come in and dominate a tough RIGHTY.
In the scenario they're going with it has the potential to be deGrom/Thor/Harvey/deGrom/Thor (on full rest for game 5). They didn't have much choice with Harvey only being able to pitch once in the series.
The pressure will be all on LA in Games 4 & 5, facing elimination.
I hope we sweep them and win by 10 runs every game. Let's Go Mets!
It's nice to have the best player in the series wearing our unis. Go Cespedes!
I hope we sweep them and win by 10 runs every game. Let's Go Mets!
It's nice to have the best player in the series wearing our unis. Go Cespedes!
Thats why we play the games. Playoff baseball is as unpredictable as NHL playoffs.
What are the vegas odds on this series?
In the scenario they're going with it has the potential to be deGrom/Thor/Harvey/deGrom/Thor (on full rest for game 5). They didn't have much choice with Harvey only being able to pitch once in the series.
thank you. Now why is this so difficult to understand for so many people? And why do people mind Harvey going in game 3 at all?
Harvey has already shown more balls than Strasburg did by even pitching in the playoffs. The plan is for him to pitch one game and have no limitations during that game. Regardless of how the series is going, Game 3 will be pivotal and we'll need Harvey for that game.
I'm going to miss our SNY announcers. The national broadcast teams suck balls.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
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But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
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But that's where our rotation depth shines this year and we have the serious advantage. They got us in a 1 2 punch but we got them behind that. That's the Dodgers Achilles heal actually.
Certainly wouldn't be ideal to go down 0-2 but I wouldn't be looking for the Mets in the obituaries either if it happened.
Yeah, but the Achilies heal really won't come into play in a 5 game series, since at least one of Kershaw/Grienke (possibly both) will pitch twice.
Assuming Kershaw is Kershaw in Game 1, Game 2 will really be the key game - if they can steal that one from Grienke, things will look good. If not - well, that spells big trouble
It would if we were down in the series heading into game 4. They aren't going to pitch Kershaw on short rest in that game unless they have to. Exactly same situation as us with deGrom.
If Murphy hits a NLCS winning walk off homer your thoughts/memories of him won't be any different than if he commits a series ending error or baserunning mistake? One play can change a players legacy.
I feel the exact opposite. I think offering it is a no-brainer. Worst case is overpaying a solid above average regular for 1 season and "block" Herrera. That worst case would mean Murphy would be the first player ever to accept the QO. I think offering it is a no-brainer if the Mets have even semi-normal finances.
Legendary for his hatred of the Mets @keithlaw says Mets in 4 #Mets
There is no realistic scenario where Daniel Murphy's 16 million is what keeps the Mets from keeping Cespedes/replacing him. If somebody said Murphy signed a 1 year extension last month at 12-13 million would anyone be thinking "oh no, Cespedes is walking!". They paid Dillon Gee, Parnell and Blevins 11.4 million this season.
The Mets ownership is horrendous but all it takes is backloading Cespedes deal 1 season and that's the difference between Parnell/Gee/Blevins and the Murphy "raise". If Cespedes is allowed to walk, Daniel Murphy will have zero impact on that decision. Personally, I'd love to see Murphy turn down the QO, Mets get a pick and slide in Herrera but I'd also be fine with Murphy at 2b again next year.
You got your snide comment in as though I was shitting on your opinion, because either it bothers you when I say anything, or it bothers you that you and many other Met fans are pissing into the wind and getting angry at the team as though there was a choice and they screwed it up. As others have said, he can only pitch once this series and it sets up ideally with him going Game 3 at home, first playoff game in Citi in a pivotal game and he can be unavailable after that because he can't pitch again anyway. It's amazing that on the radio, the whole day was filled with callers trying to argue something that is not debatable.
1.) He's a family man and needs to think about his long term security
2.) His value only goes down a year from now one year older
3.) He's in his prime of his career right now and might have the added hype of a good playoff series
4.) He's probably the best 2B/3B on the market.
But like Dan said, if the worst case scenario is having a 2.5 WAR player around that can play multiple positions for another year, Im pretty damn good with that too. There will be injuries and Herrera will still get his chances.
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Crawford LF
Kendrick 2B
Seager SS
Gonzalez 1B
Turner 3B
Ethier RF
Ellis C
Pederson CF
Kershaw P
Seriously? He's one of the few players that finished the season hot and overall had one of the best season's on the team. You want him batting 7th or 8th??
The fact the "worst case" is him coming back for 1 year, if I ran the team it would be a no-brainer offer.
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duda lower personally.
Seriously? He's one of the few players that finished the season hot and overall had one of the best season's on the team. You want him batting 7th or 8th??
All career numbers are SSS, but if your going go with that he should bat lower like flip cuddy with him. Murphy #4, i'm not happy about that.
I think that's why Terry essentially flipped them. Flo is 3-6 on the bench. Not sure I like that but where do you play him?
I think that's why Terry essentially flipped them. Flo is 3-6 on the bench. Not sure I like that but where do you play him?
I read somewhere you can play Flo over Murphy due handedness. I didn't think that was a terrible idea.
I agree on that premise but this is Kershaw, not just another lefty. Frankly, I dont think it matters if your lefty or righty with Kershaw, he'll get you out most likely.
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The guy is 30 years old. He is coming off his best year with 15 HR. He will sign the best longterm deal he gets. He would be crazy to jeopardize his one big payday by accepting a one year deal with Mets.
The fact the "worst case" is him coming back for 1 year, if I ran the team it would be a no-brainer offer.
Totally agree, Dan. At least a 90% chance he signs elsewhere and if he does come back, you get Murphy for another year without making a huge financial commitment.
That's a win-win situation
I think that's why Terry essentially flipped them. Flo is 3-6 on the bench. Not sure I like that but where do you play him?
Tejada has good numbers against Kershaw. Collins has long eyed Tejada starting this game combined with all the back/strep stuff with Flores. Id personally rather have Flores at SS in this game. He's owned lefties this year. Not happy with the lineup at all but whatever.
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What an awful deal for Toronto. Mets dodged a bullet not getting this guy.
Duda/TdA/Cuddyer in the back half all have boom/bust potential, but are where they should be because none have been consistent enough.
Yep. Well, not sure cost them the SERIES, but that was a brutally bad call.
If HOU/KC score holds up, home team will be 0-6 so far. Hopefully that continues in LA tonight...
Yes his defense sucks. Yes his baseball IQ is terrible and his baserunning sucks. But he knows how to hit and he does it in the clutch. I'm fine with losing for a 1st round pick if someone else offers him a better contract but losing him for nothing would be stupid.
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot;
Show now your spirit: and upon this charge,
Cry God for The Mets! Terry and New York!
0-9 in postseason
What an awful deal for Toronto. Mets dodged a bullet not getting this guy.
Huge. Tulo sucks. Product of Coors. Old and deteriorating rapidly.