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NFT: Blackhawks at Islanders Season/Home Opener

pganut : 10/9/2015 3:11 pm
Welcome back, friends. Tonight, the young, talented team in blue and orange makes the leap to not only a new building and new traditions, but to the realm of being acknowledged as one of the better teams in the league. Speaking with some of you, I am seeing both sheepishness and skepticism, and as well cautious optimism. There's cases to be made for both, but you also have to understand, by many metrics...this is a good team, period. It won't be easy A) against the Champs tonight/tomorrow, who are also coming in hot after dropping their opener and B) because of the injury bug affecting Halak and Hickey, necessitating a Strait appearance as well as Greiss likely playing 2 of the first 3 with an untested FA rookie to also get a game. You know what I say? Bring it. Bring the adversity. Challenges are good. And remember this: you need not panic if there's a stumble out of the gate. It's a looong season.

Turning to the game itself, there's a lot of festivities planned, not the least of which is a tribute to Al Arbour which should touch many folks. The banners are here. The real goal horn is here. The modernized arena is here. The light on the horizon we hoped for through all these years...it's here.

Your probable lines tonight: (F) - Lee-JT-Strome; Nelson-Grabbo-Kulemin; Bailey-Nielsen-Okposo; Martin-Cizikas-Clutterbuck. (D) - Leddy/Boychuk; de Haan/Hammer; Strait/Zid. As mentioned, Greiss gets the start. Let's hope he runs with it. Let Jaro recover fully before he comes back...we'll need him. Note: L2 and L3 may be flipped during the game.

Some opening night factoids: The Isles will be looking for their third straight Opening Night win, but are 3-7-2 in their last 12 Openers. Overall, the Isles are 11-21-10 on Opening Night (2-4-2 at home). A defenseman has scored the first goal of the season for the Isles in 5 of the last 6 seasons, including Johnny Boychuk last year. Mikhail Grabovski is one of six active players with an Opening Night hat trick.

For those looking for some reassurance, or merely the validation of the positive direction we're headed in, here's some perspective from Dan Rosen at NHL.com:
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My advice is stop worrying about three years from now if you're an Islanders fan. Embrace the team you have now. It's a playoff contender heading into a new building, a new era. Embrace Tavares and the superstar that he is. Trust Jaroslav Halak and Thomas Greiss. Enjoy watching Nick Leddy, Johnny Boychuk, Travis Hamonic and Calvin de Haan. Watch for the development of Michael Dal Colle and Ryan Pulock. Believe that the defense got better with the addition of Marek Zidlicky. Hope for the best from Kyle Okposo and that he will stay an Islander. Look for more out of Ryan Strome, Anders Lee and Brock Nelson. Appreciate Frans Nielsen for being one of the most underrated centers in the NHL. Enjoy the energy the Islanders get from Matt Martin, Cal Clutterbuck and Casey Cizikas.

Relax and enjoy being an Islander fan. The team is good and relevant again. Soak it in.

The city is ready for us:

Are you ready? I sure as hell am. Let's Go Islanders!

Your meters may overload
You can rest at the side of the road
You can miss a stride
But nobody gets a free ride
More than high performance
More than just a spark
More than just the bottom line
Or a lucky shot in the dark --
In the long run...

You can do a lot in a lifetime
If you don't burn out too fast
You can make the most of the distance
First you need endurance --
First you've got to last...

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Confusion to the Murgos!...  
Torrag : 10/9/2015 3:20 pm : link
...and may Taur Urgas grow boils on his behind!
I have to say  
Dave M : 10/9/2015 3:20 pm : link
I love that L1.
I have 3 words for you.  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:25 pm : link
YES YES YES!
Are the Islanders permanently in Brooklyn  
Matt M. : 10/9/2015 3:29 pm : link
or are they returning to Nassau if/when the Coliseum is renovated?
Biggest question going into the season............  
BlueHurricane : 10/9/2015 3:30 pm : link
Are we doing the Yes Yes Yes again this year????
Matt, NVMC is in the rearview mirror  
pganut : 10/9/2015 3:32 pm : link
They aren't coming back. TOH burned that bridge a long time ago. Just make peace with the new home and create new memories.

Yes, L1 makes me all...tingly.
RE: Biggest question going into the season............  
pganut : 10/9/2015 3:32 pm : link
In comment 12536851 BlueHurricane said:
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Are we doing the Yes Yes Yes again this year????
BH...Yes! Yes! Yes! We are.
RE: Are the Islanders permanently in Brooklyn  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:33 pm : link
In comment 12536847 Matt M. said:
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or are they returning to Nassau if/when the Coliseum is renovated?


Despite what you'll often hear, they will not be returning. At least not for 25 years. The arena they're building there absolutely can not support a professional sports team. Once it's built, I believe there's talks of the Isles playing 3-5 games that first year and seeing if they can make it a tradition... but even that is unlikely, IMO.

The article below sums it up nicely.

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Let's spell it out for Islanders fans, area residents, and Mangano: The New York Islanders aren't returning to Nassau. They'll play this year -- and for 24 more -- unless the arena's ceiling caves in, or those 8,000 season ticket holders disappear into a poof of smoke . . . in Brooklyn.

Most recently, Mangano told WFAN.com that he believes "we will see the return of the Islanders at some point." When Mangano trots out such talk, he's skating on thin ice. It's unkind to Islanders fans seeking hope. It's reckless and there's no basis for his comments.

Here's what we do know:

There's far more money to be made in NYC. Sponsorships and tickets are going for higher prices in Brooklyn than they did in Nassau -- and new Coliseum paint won't change that.

The team is about to have new majority owners, who based their valuation and their purchase on a home at Barclays -- not the Coliseum.

Developer Bruce Ratner, who is both majority owner of Barclays and tenant of the Coliseum, apparently is looking to sell his stake in Barclays, according to published reports. That could loosen the connection between the two.

Even when the Uniondale arena is renovated, it won't be built for a major league team -- and it won't come close to Barclays.

That's key. The Lighthouse Project, conceived by Isles owner Charles Wang a decade ago, would've included a $320 million renovated Coliseum. The Barclays Center cost $1 billion. Ratner is spending just $130 million on what amounts to a Coliseum wardrobe change.

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Miss these threads  
Metnut : 10/9/2015 3:34 pm : link
so much. Thanks PGA.

Let's go Islanders!
You actually hijacked the Mets Empire State Building illumination?  
Torrag : 10/9/2015 3:34 pm : link
...and try to claim it as a Brooklynders honor? LOL. Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
RE: You actually hijacked the Mets Empire State Building illumination?  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:37 pm : link
In comment 12536861 Torrag said:
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...and try to claim it as a Brooklynders honor? LOL. Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.


Actually, it was for the Islanders...

Now  
Fish : 10/9/2015 3:40 pm : link
Go get your shinebox torrag
Oh Geezus they did it  
Torrag : 10/9/2015 3:43 pm : link
That's actually even more pathetic LOL.
RE: Oh Geezus they did it  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:44 pm : link
In comment 12536876 Torrag said:
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That's actually even more pathetic LOL.


How is it pathetic if it actually is for us? Can't have it both ways, limp dick.
For anyone who wants the other perspective...  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:46 pm : link
Here's a cool video the Blackhawks players reacting to the new arena.
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It's a shame the Brooklynders spit the bit vs the Caps last year  
Torrag : 10/9/2015 3:47 pm : link
I was looking forward to the first meaningful Rangers-Isles series in forever. Maybe this year.
RE: It's a shame the Brooklynders spit the bit vs the Caps last year  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 3:50 pm : link
In comment 12536890 Torrag said:
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I was looking forward to the first meaningful Rangers-Isles series in forever. Maybe this year.


My associative memory keeps trying to trick me into drawing parallels that aren't there between two situations that shouldn't be connected... but as a Yankee fan, I keep thinking about last year's loss in the same light as I think Edgar Martinez's double in 1995.
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Islanders commuting  
NewBlue : 10/9/2015 4:13 pm : link
QUESTION

The players are taking the LIRR to home games, leaving in the morning for early skate and staying in a hotel for their rest time before the games.
BUT...............are they taking the train home after games at night? Will we be commuting alongside the boys?
Excellent pga  
feelflows : 10/9/2015 4:27 pm : link
Very very well done my friend...as per usual.

I think L1 will work well, especially if JT shoots more. Lee needs to set up his office and get comfy.

Very strong 3 lines. Obviously the 4th is strong and very important against teams like CHI.

Hamonic back makes it a very very strong top 4. But the problem is.....lol.

More than just a shot in the dark...in the long run!!
thanks and here's to an enjoyable season  
theold5j : 10/9/2015 4:37 pm : link
2 of my feelings on the start of the season

it would make me feel a whole lot better if they had 1 more NOW player; one the that was a goal scoring threat. or even a power play specialist type that can ignite the PP unit. maybe someone steps up to be that player. I just think Tavares needs to play with more of a goal scorer than a play maker. Maybe Strome can surprise and get close to 30 goals.

i have a feeling if the right trade comes up KO is a goner. with the talent, depth and upcoming expiring contracts he may have priced himself out of the islanders future salary structure. he wants to be paid as the 2nd highest paid forward on the team and I'm not sure he is that. or is going to be that.


RE: thanks and here's to an enjoyable season  
Mike in Long Beach : 10/9/2015 4:39 pm : link
In comment 12537019 theold5j said:
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2 of my feelings on the start of the season

it would make me feel a whole lot better if they had 1 more NOW player; one the that was a goal scoring threat. or even a power play specialist type that can ignite the PP unit. maybe someone steps up to be that player. I just think Tavares needs to play with more of a goal scorer than a play maker. Maybe Strome can surprise and get close to 30 goals.

i have a feeling if the right trade comes up KO is a goner. with the talent, depth and upcoming expiring contracts he may have priced himself out of the islanders future salary structure. he wants to be paid as the 2nd highest paid forward on the team and I'm not sure he is that. or is going to be that.



Ryan Strome's performance prior to the trade deadline this year (so about 70% of the season) is going to go a long way in determining what the Islanders are willing to pay Okposo.
I feel strongly  
pganut : 10/9/2015 5:02 pm : link
That the "NOW" player is Strome. He has all the hallmarks (junior career as evidence) of having elite playmaker talent. I think this is the year he takes the leap, and I have no problem predicting that he'll be an all star within the next 2 seasons, this one included. It isn't a stretch to think that a full year of L1 cohesion will result in some very lofty numbers for all 3.
RE: I feel strongly  
theold5j : 10/9/2015 5:25 pm : link
PGA - is Strome a 30 goal scorer?


In comment 12537081 pganut said:
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That the "NOW" player is Strome. He has all the hallmarks (junior career as evidence) of having elite playmaker talent. I think this is the year he takes the leap, and I have no problem predicting that he'll be an all star within the next 2 seasons, this one included. It isn't a stretch to think that a full year of L1 cohesion will result in some very lofty numbers for all 3.
RE: RE: I feel strongly  
feelflows : 10/9/2015 5:31 pm : link
In comment 12537131 theold5j said:
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PGA - is Strome a 30 goal scorer?


In comment 12537081 pganut said:


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That the "NOW" player is Strome. He has all the hallmarks (junior career as evidence) of having elite playmaker talent. I think this is the year he takes the leap, and I have no problem predicting that he'll be an all star within the next 2 seasons, this one included. It isn't a stretch to think that a full year of L1 cohesion will result in some very lofty numbers for all 3.

He has the talent to do so  
pganut : 10/9/2015 5:40 pm : link
I believe if he shoots more this year, it's a real possibility. If guys like Boyes and PAP can pot 20+ riding shotgun with JT, I think Strome brings more than they do/did.
RE: He has the talent to do so  
theold5j : 10/9/2015 5:43 pm : link
im with you. he has to shoot more. and I think he will score the goals, too. a hot start from him would make me feel a lot better

In comment 12537157 pganut said:
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I believe if he shoots more this year, it's a real possibility. If guys like Boyes and PAP can pot 20+ riding shotgun with JT, I think Strome brings more than they do/did.
Lee  
theold5j : 10/9/2015 6:11 pm : link
I'm still not buying him as a 1st line winger on a team that some have picked to challenge for the conference finals. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's a good player but I'm just not sure of him as a 1st line player just yet.
Lee  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 6:41 pm : link
needs to get in the dirty area and be a distraction for the goalie while Strome and JT create.

He can quietly have a huge season.

RE: Lee  
pganut : 10/9/2015 6:54 pm : link
In comment 12537204 theold5j said:
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I'm still not buying him as a 1st line winger on a team that some have picked to challenge for the conference finals. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's a good player but I'm just not sure of him as a 1st line player just yet.
5j...remember, he bet on himself coming into last season after refusing the Isles' QO. He felt if he showed he's part of the solution, he'd get rewarded. And he went out and did just that, and remember, wasn't paired with JT out of the gate. I think he's very much a key component of L1 and as JayB points out, has shown a willingness to get to the dirty areas and also has a deft touch on deflections. I believe Lee knows how good he has it to pair with JT and Stromer and now that he's comfortable with his role as well as his contract, we see him also take that big step this season. Nice to have a skilled line who are 25-25-22 in age respectively. I'll buy you the beer of your choice if we don't see at least 25 goals from Lee this year.
Lets go boys  
Fish : 10/9/2015 7:07 pm : link
Shannon hogan is ready.
Lines now confirmed  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:12 pm : link
My original post, but the 12-51-21 line is line 2 and Grabbo's line is L3.
Hopefully fans  
KWhite2250 : 10/9/2015 7:16 pm : link
Came early enough to get in on time because security at the barclays is absolutely slow and very strict
RE: RE: Lee  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 7:22 pm : link
In comment 12537256 pganut said:
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.. I'll buy you the beer of your choice if we don't see at least 25 goals from Lee this year.


He had 25 last year I would hope he'd be able to repeat that. Would like to see him get an additional 10 assists or so even though that's not really his role
Well, you and I are in the camp that he improves upon his 14-15  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:25 pm : link
I believe he scores at least 25, emphasis on at least. He wasn't moved full time to JT's wing till February. A full year with 2 stellar linemates should mean a big uptick. I think there are certainly folks who don't have as much belief in his abilities.
Agree to agree  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 7:31 pm : link
Just got goosebumps watching that team promo
I haven't seen a drop of coverage yet  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:37 pm : link
NHLN hasn't shown anything yet, outside a tribute video to Chicago (who already got sucked off by the media when they opened up Wednesday night), but hey, who needed to see any tribute to Al Arbour or first-ever-game in Brooklyn festivities.
was a good quick video  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 7:40 pm : link
of course some dickheads had to yell during the moment of silence.

Alexa Ray Joel is horrific.
The new barn is rocking  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 7:42 pm : link
.
Pganut  
KWhite2250 : 10/9/2015 7:47 pm : link
There wasnt much of anything. The team gathered in a circle at center ice and saluted the crowd, a arbour video, ceremonial puck drop by wang with new owners and nystrom, bossy, trottier, smith and then awful anthem
Thanks, KW  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:49 pm : link
Hopefully the Isles post the Arbor vid on theirwebsite.

Good pace so far. And there's Strome with a shot. Like to see it.
Brock will get that dialed in  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:56 pm : link
Nice chance there, liking the pressure.
wow  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 7:56 pm : link
bad turnover by Crawford.

Place would have erupted if Nelson put that home
Brock  
Fish : 10/9/2015 7:57 pm : link
Has to bury that.

Alexa Joel could ruin Billy's career.
Why are there so many empty seats?  
lawguy9801 : 10/9/2015 7:58 pm : link
.
Isles facebook page  
KWhite2250 : 10/9/2015 7:59 pm : link
Posted the Al Arbour video
Those aren't empty seats  
pganut : 10/9/2015 7:59 pm : link
They're hipsters. So slack,they blend in.
RE: Isles facebook page  
pganut : 10/9/2015 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12537356 KWhite2250 said:
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Posted the Al Arbour video
Dude, you are on top of things tonight.
Weak hooking call  
pganut : 10/9/2015 8:02 pm : link
OK, PK, bail us out.
i can live with this PK  
JayBinQueens : 10/9/2015 8:03 pm : link
.
Though I have no idea why Strait is on it
Good kill  
Fish : 10/9/2015 8:04 pm : link
League leaders on pk
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