Mets
Curtis Granderson, RF
David Wright, 3B
Yoenis Cespedes, CF
Daniel Murphy, 2B
Travis d'Arnaud, C
Lucas Duda, 1B
Michael Cuddyer, LF
Ruben Tejada, SS
Jacob deGrom, RHP
Dodgers
Carl Crawford, LF
Howie Kendrick, 2B
Corey Seager, SS
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Justin Turner, 3B
Andre Ethier, RF
AJ Ellis, C
Joc Pederson, CF
Clayton Kershaw, LHP
Beat the Dodgers! Lets Go! Take Game 1.
Mattingly made the right call. They guy had walked the bases loaded; he was done. Was he really supposed to let him continue at that point? Of course people always second guess either way but can you imagine if he left him in and he either walks in an assurance run or give up the big hit to DW how much he would be second guessed for leaving him in?
Clippard had that terrific stretch when the Mets closed the gap and built the lead on the Nats. But I don't have confidence in his stuff: he leaves too many pitches up in the zone and there is often not a lot of movement.
Cuddyer, that was an embarrassing performance: he got a late jump on the ball that ticked off his glove and, on the second, broke first toward the line several steps before adjusting and breaking back toward the wall. Question: how the wind keep Yoenis' fly in the park yet Cuddyer is breaking sideways? Watching him in LF keeps spitting up the SA mistakes and leaves a sour taste. Cuddyer looked like an over-the-hill, old man playing LF and his at bats were anemic, of course, that's what Kershaw does.
Home plate ump: that also was an embarrassing performance. Torrag was right, he was equally bad for both teams, especially on balls below the knees...stopping deGrom on a "time" when JdG had already gone into his windup.
And re: Cuddyer's defense - nobody remembers him being bad in the field because he only played 39 games there in the 2nd half of the season (66 overall). When he was signed, most reports said he was the worst defensive LF in baseball, aging on bad knees, and he didn't do much this season to disprove that. I could definitely still see him getting big hits in this PS, but after yesterday I'd likely restrict him to pinch hitting or playing 1B. Anything you get from Cuddyer will be an outlier to any statistical accomplishments he had this season. His OPS vs. lefties was .700 and he hasn't hit an HR since August.
Of course, the so-called "center field" camera in this game, as with some others, is very tough to read because it's not a dead center view: pitches that looked like they painted the outside corner to lefties were called consistently outside.
Separately, and NOT affected by the slightly skewed angle from CF--and the graphics showed multiple, multiple balls low and well out of the zone were called strikes by this ump. wtf
If a run got scored in the seventh when Wright came up, Mattingly was going to get second-guessed regardless.
If they were bringing in someone even on the level of Clippard or Reed that would be 1 thing, but they basically brought in Hansel Robles. I think Mattingly was looking to not repeat a mistake made last year and made a new mistake.
Even more impressive is tying Tom Seaver's post game record of 13 K's.
I love the way this young man rises to the big moments. The great ones usually do.
Game Score of 79 for deGrom would be fifth best in Mets postseason history. (Matlock 89, Hampton 88, Jones 88, Seaver 80.)
Pedro was amazing. I watched that whole postgame show just to hear him.
Game Score of 79 for deGrom would be fifth best in Mets postseason history. (Matlock 89, Hampton 88, Jones 88, Seaver 80.)
I have some real questions about any metric that doesn't include any of Gooden's games in the Mets top grouping. His 1984 one hitter, which if it weren't but for Ray Knight should have been a no hitter was one of the most dominate pitching performances any Met has ever thrown. Let along a few other gems he had.
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Game Score of 79 for deGrom would be fifth best in Mets postseason history. (Matlock 89, Hampton 88, Jones 88, Seaver 80.)
I have some real questions about any metric that doesn't include any of Gooden's games in the Mets top grouping. His 1984 one hitter, which if it weren't but for Ray Knight should have been a no hitter was one of the most dominate pitching performances any Met has ever thrown. Let along a few other gems he had.
Ah I missed the part about post season. Gooden 84 game obviously in season.
The point was he didn't play there much all season and he hasn't done much of anything positive down the stretch. In 66 starts in LF he had 3 errors, which is more than every OF other than Granderson who played like 3x the games, and every advanced metric has him negative. He had what should have been 2 errors last night and if JdG doesn't strand those 2 runners and Wright doesn't extend the lead, he's the reason. He's the reason they needed to go to the BP in the 8th because he cost JdG at least 10-15 extra pitches.
His clients team is in the middle of the playoffs just shut up already!
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The point was he didn't play there much all season and he hasn't done much of anything positive down the stretch. In 66 starts in LF he had 3 errors, which is more than every OF other than Granderson who played like 3x the games, and every advanced metric has him negative. He had what should have been 2 errors last night and if JdG doesn't strand those 2 runners and Wright doesn't extend the lead, he's the reason. He's the reason they needed to go to the BP in the 8th because he cost JdG at least 10-15 extra pitches.
OOOhhh. He's the reason. LOL. We all know he fucked up and misjudged two wind moving balls. And he's had more errors than Granderson, Lagares, and Cepedes? That's a barometer? Those three have been incredible. 3 errors over a season will never be considered a lot. Ive watched him all year. He is not a liability. He doesn't have a lot of range but he'll make the play if its in his vicinity.
Harvey is hurting his image enough by putting on 20 lbs and missing a morning practice, giving the impression he is out partying. He doesn't need Boras fanning the flames.
Big sample size ... 15 PAs.
It works for Colon.
If you hire Boras then cash is the focus and likely the only focus. I don't think Harvey feels that way in reality but when you hire an agent who can convince wealthy, business savvy and intelligent men to spend irresponsibly on his clients, then I'd bet it's easy for him to convince players to be business men first and baseball players second. He doesn't care about talking about all this Harvey arm/contract shit in the middle of a playoffs because he doesn't care about the playoff for any other reason than his client using that stage to make more money. All the competition and team oriented stuff is unimportant. All about the cash money
So over it. I know Ive played a part in the discussions and we are going to be hearing it all over again on Monday but what a bunch of crap. He's one of our best pitchers/players and we have postseason games to win. When he assaults somebody or gets caught selling crack, please let me know, but all this other back and forth sounds like a bunch of jaded women crying over his "personality". Is this baseball or the damn coffee club? If he wants to leave in 2019, great! I could give two fucks. The whole team will look completely different by then and we'll have already used all his good years.
You'd think this....but Alex Rodriguez hired him to get him paid and Boras managed to get ARod an amazing contract that even now is massive but back then was another level. The years and money were so beyond what anyone else had gotten before, but he did it. Yet ARod fired him. And I think it's because as much as the agent works for the player Boras is a different animal. I think his involvement and "power" is on a higher level than other agents. Look at this crap from an article about A-Rod splitting with Boras:
".... Boras Corp., which, in addition to contract negotiations, offers its clients psychological counseling, investment advice and physical training, among other services."
"...after nearly 20 years of listening to Boras' attempts to control everything from his diet to his after-hours conduct, A-Rod has simply tuned him out.
"He's just tired of listening to him," the source said. "He's under a lot of pressure from his new people to get rid of [Boras]."
Sounds like when you work with Boras, he's the boss whether you realize it or not. He's awful for everything fans care about and obviously the best for getting his clients the green
Game 2 tonight. Unassuming 6'7" Viking on the mound. Surely the Dodgers have nothing to worry about. He can't possibly throw 99 with 4 plus pitches can he?
Scott Boras made these pronouncements about Harvey last night at Dodgers Stadium. You find it odd that Mets fans are talking about it 18 hours later?
Mattingly had a good argument for taking out Kershaw, but he brought the wrong pitcher in the game. The bases were loaded with two out and Baez gets hit hard by the first batter he faces.
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Harvey is eligible to become a Free Agent after the 2018 season ends. You can want to waste time and energy during the Playiffs in2015 talking about Scott Boras? Fucking weird
Scott Boras made these pronouncements about Harvey last night at Dodgers Stadium. You find it odd that Mets fans are talking about it 18 hours later?
LOL, exactly. Fucking weird.
But then to constantly feel the need to get up on their soapbox and have this diatribe shaming people because they happen to care about something they don't? We get it...you don't care about what happens with Harvey's long term status. It doesn't mean that other fans shouldn't discuss an extremely relevant team issue. I just don't get it.
No need to be condescending. Again, you minimize things about Harvey but I didn't even bring any of that up. People are going to discuss what Harvey does when he's a FA because that's what people do...discuss their bigtime players and the future.
Regardless of what you think, it is relevant and I don't think it's necessary to bash people for wanting to discuss the long term plans for their biggest star. It's okay to have differing points of view.
Also, some of the Harvey supporters are truly minimizing what has lead us to these Harvey discussions. He's created this with not just a couple of things, but a string of things. Harvey wouldn't be taking the heat he has if it was just a missed meeting or a middle-finger picture. That doesn't make any sense. All of the other stud pitchers have seemed to keep a low profile. And it has nothing to do with the fact that he grew up a Yankee fan. I'm sure half the kids in that clubhouse grew up Yankee fans. Harvey and his buffoon of an agent have both contributed to his current reputation.
But we got a game to watch. This harvey stuff is sickening at this point. Lets enjoy the game.