How bad is Odell Beckham hurt?

no.

but he was also limping REALLY badly on the sideline right before he came in, and he looked fine when came in.

Anyone who's ever played football knows certain guys limp more emphatically than others for whatever reason.

bad.

I'd hate to think he hurt it celebrating. If so, ugh.

and those take time to heal and ODB knows it. I think he's pissed because he realizes he's not going to be close to 100% for awhile (and may even miss some games). That, plus the frustration of it being the same injury that has dogged him forever, probably contributed to the emotion he was showing post-game.

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Terrific

in the on-field postgame interview, so I don't know if it was because we won or he knows he's out for awhile.

what Rich said. Wait a minute, I'm thinking like Rich now!

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his best Michael Jordan impersonation (game with the flu). Looked like he was writhing in pain when the game was stopped and looked perfectly find when the game was being played. I think he'll be ok.

In comment 12543967 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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in the on-field postgame interview, so I don't know if it was because we won or he knows he's out for awhile.

He's a pretty emotional guy and they just had a pretty emotional victory. Could be nothing more than that.

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Well, think of all the clicks a story like that could generate!

He may have been thinking a bit about Fells in there too. A lot of emotions to run through for anyone.

but I'm optimistic it's not bad.

and we're all going to die.

In comment 12543967 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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in the on-field postgame interview, so I don't know if it was because we won or he knows he's out for awhile.

Interesting. It could be either, but I'm guessing it was because we won based on this comment in his interview:

"It was definitely a great win and I was a little overwhelmed at the end."

he made a team decision and not a business decision and put his helmet on to help the team win. You could see on the sideline he was struggling with wanting to go out onto the field. I was like put your helmet on the team needs you. So I am sure it was emotional esp seeing it worked out. He is a gamer and you can see he loves to play the game.

together praying. I've never seen that happen before and leads me to think he knew he was hurt and hoping it wouldn't get worse or go completely.

in front of me at the game. He looked fine as he was sprinting back and forth...trying to convince the trainers to let him back in the game. IMHO he'll be ok for next week.

trainers CLEARED him to go back into the game. If they hadn't cleared, we'd be talking about a possible game missed next Monday. More concerning injury to me would be Randle, who seemed to be definitely pissed on the sidelines.

And Donnell was as well, I figured it was because they wanted to win this one for their sick teammate.

This has been a very emotional week for the team.

and where injuries are concerned I've come to expect the worst.

In this case....next week would be, no Beason, no Kennard, no Ayers (another FA that can't stay on the field) and no, Selvie.

Tell you what, if they don't get some guys back on defense, Eagles will have a field day.

He said it started to hurt about five plays before that.

In comment 12543972 Josh in the City said:

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his best Michael Jordan impersonation (game with the flu). Looked like he was writhing in pain when the game was stopped and looked perfectly find when the game was being played. I think he'll be ok.

My son turned to me and said OBJ was doing his best Willis Reed impression. I had to agree.

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In comment 12544056 joeinpa said:

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and where injuries are concerned I've come to expect the worst. In this case....next week would be, no Beason, no Kennard, no Ayers (another FA that can't stay on the field) and no, Selvie. Tell you what, if they don't get some guys back on defense, Eagles will have a field day.

I think Beason will be back Monday. You never know with concussions, but it looked like a pretty mild concussion. Like mild enough that 2 years ago he wouldn't have even missed a play. The Docs definitely forced him out (as they should).

But why did you feel better because he came back in? It's a hamstring, he came in to be a decoy and try to help win the game. He missed 2 months last year with a hammy. Let's hope it's nothing like that.

In comment 12544046 ryanmkeane said:

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trainers CLEARED him to go back into the game. If they hadn't cleared, we'd be talking about a possible game missed next Monday. More concerning injury to me would be Randle, who seemed to be definitely pissed on the sidelines.

Trainers clearing you is based on what you tell them about your injury. So, if a guy wants to go back in, he just tells the trainers what they need to hear

In comment 12543951 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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but he was also limping REALLY badly on the sideline right before he came in, and he looked fine when came in. Anyone who's ever played football knows certain guys limp more emphatically than others for whatever reason.

Most of the time he was out, he was running up and down the sideline testing out his legs. He looked fine running, and then went back into the game.

In comment 12544188 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 12544046 ryanmkeane said: Quote: trainers CLEARED him to go back into the game. If they hadn't cleared, we'd be talking about a possible game missed next Monday. More concerning injury to me would be Randle, who seemed to be definitely pissed on the sidelines. Trainers clearing you is based on what you tell them about your injury. So, if a guy wants to go back in, he just tells the trainers what they need to hear

What an elementary understanding of how this decision-making process works.

In comment 12544188 Vanzetti said:

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In comment 12544046 ryanmkeane said: Quote: trainers CLEARED him to go back into the game. If they hadn't cleared, we'd be talking about a possible game missed next Monday. More concerning injury to me would be Randle, who seemed to be definitely pissed on the sidelines. Trainers clearing you is based on what you tell them about your injury. So, if a guy wants to go back in, he just tells the trainers what they need to hear

If this was the case he would of been in at the start of the drive, Coughlin said Beckham came up to him every 5 seconds saying he was fine and ready to go and the trainers kept saying no...

So no that is not how it works, a player cant just say he is fine and the trainers let him go in..

It's really impossible to say how badly he might be hurt. He probably won't even know himself until he wakes up this morning. If he just felt a "twinge" a they say it could be a very quick turn around. If he felt more of a pull or tear (feels like a series of ripples or shock waves in your hamstring) then it is probably weeks. The fact that he could still run a go route 30 mins after pulling himself from the game gives me optimism. Either way, he's going to spend more time in the training room than on the field this week.

In comment 12544181 ZogZerg said:

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But why did you feel better because he came back in? It's a hamstring, he came in to be a decoy and try to help win the game. He missed 2 months last year with a hammy. Let's hope it's nothing like that.

I would agree with this if he didnt run a great route at full speed and with 2 cuts and drew that PI call...

If he was just out there running straight then i would agree he was just out there as a decoy, but he was running his routes with the intent of getting the ball..

last week, you have to give the "benefit of the doubt" to the hamstring injury, i.e., what Rich in L.A. said

When you have a chronic weakness, as OBJ seems to, you can "manage" the injury when you're running and can predict and modulate the way your leg extends (greater or lesser) and the way you plant your foot so that you're not exacerbating the injured area (high/low, biceps femoris (outside main of the three), semi tendinosus (inside/toward groin main of the three), or semimembranosus (inside and smallest of the three). When he trotted back on the field and ran pattern, he may already have been managing it so that it appeared he was running normally. just my speculation, so fwiw

Also, stress on the muscle is cumulative during its workload, so he may well have tweaked it earlier in the game, or on the cut back left when he outraced the DB to the endzone, and then more on the dance, when he wasn't thinking about it.

hamstrings are perverse bitches, stern mistresses

Odell and Giants have to be smart and conservative here even if there is a short-term price to be paid

and this division is up for the taking. To me, if Beason, Kennard or Ayers are going to be out again the Giants have to risk making a move and give up a draft pick. You play to win now and this team could go on a roll the second half of the season if we can get guys back but you can't let yourself slide into a hole (see Dallas) waiting for the guys to return.

We need some help on defense. If Beckham is out that will hurt but we can still get by scheme wise with other players. Defensively we are too thin and missing talent to rely on scheme. We need a player or two. They don't have to be all-pros but they do need to be healthy down in down out contributors who will hold the fort down until we get some guys back.

Teams like New Orleans, Detroit, Miami, Oakland, Houston, St. Louis, Kansas City and Jacksonville would be willing to part with some players since their seasons are over already.

I don't believe we will be treated to that. Which imo is the way it ought to be.

There's absolutely no reason for the Giants coaching staff, or OBJ himself, to talk ad nauseum about "how bad" the hammy is.

I know I sound like the "get off my lawn" fan, but not everything is positive about this new age of all-info, all-the-time. Belichick knows this and plays things close to the vest, and with good reason.

The evidence is right there, at the very end of last night's game.

With a very key matchup and an extra day of rest and treatments, I'm hoping the Giants say next to nothing about the hammy, and that when they do, the commentary is vague and optimistic.

If 13 is on the field a week from tonight, at one level or another, if he can contribute on offense - and even ONLY as a decoy - sign me up.

the guy clearly cares a ton for his team. And despite some of the other things he'll do that aren't so wise, I'll always respect a player that cares like that.

Heal up, we need that guy. What a player.

agree with what you say, and it's plain to see you know from where you speak (ripples and shock waves, dreaded sensation, and can be accompanied by excruciating pain, depending on the severity of the injury).

The twinge, while it might be minor, can be a bellweather of developing strain that has to be managed smartly.

He's a tremendous football player who cares desperately about winning, but that hammy needs to be treated with caution.

This could hinder his path towards greatness..

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This could hinder his path towards greatness..

He had hamstring problems in college but played through them...there were reports that he barely practiced and then played in the games...

I would be shocked if he is not in uniform Monday night..

Because if he felt it a few plays before the TD and then made that cut and acceleration, his hammy wasn't in very bad shape. Then, watching him run on the sidelines it seemed like he was in pretty good shape. Likewise, when he returned and drew that PI call, he was moving pretty well and freely. Then again, it is a hamstring and he has a history, so who knows.

You can only play through them for so long before father time catches up and the injury takes longer to heal,or at worse, become more severe with each occurrence.

I'm concerned.

My guess is we'll know more Wednesday.

If Beckham is out or limited along with Randle we are dead meat Monday night.

In comment 12544191 FJ said:

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In comment 12543951 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said: Quote: but he was also limping REALLY badly on the sideline right before he came in, and he looked fine when came in. Anyone who's ever played football knows certain guys limp more emphatically than others for whatever reason. Most of the time he was out, he was running up and down the sideline testing out his legs. He looked fine running, and then went back into the game.

Yea but when he was sitting next to Randle right before our last drive and got up to walk, he was limping really badly. 5 mins later he's out there helping us win.

In comment 12544386 SGMen said:

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My guess is we'll know more Wednesday. If Beckham is out or limited along with Randle we are dead meat Monday night.

Giants do not practice until Thursday, will not know anything until then unless Coughlin gives and update today.

If so, I wonder what they'll do with wr if he should miss significant time?

Go with what they got, Davis, White, etc? Or go outside?

after the game!

Please!

You can argue that if the medical people cleared him to come back in the game for the last few plays, then assuming he didn't aggravate it or have a setback this week, he should be cleared to play next Monday.

take your word for ir. They perform a couple of quick basic diagnostic evals on the sidelines and then render a determination. Certainly not foolproof but it isnt just "How do you feel?"