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NFT: Dodgers at Mets: Game 4

Canton : 10/13/2015 2:41 pm
@Mets: NLDS Game 4 Lineup:

@cgrand3 RF
#DavidWright 3B
Murphy 2B
@ynscspds LF
d�Arnaud C
Duda 1B
Flores SS
@juanlagares2 CF
@Smatz88 P

#LGM



Let's close this out tonight at home! How special would that be..
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Duda against Kershaw?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/13/2015 2:43 pm : link
Why would you pick now to do that? Hasn't Duda always sat for Kershaw?
Duda was in the lineup game 1  
Chris684 : 10/13/2015 2:46 pm : link
...
And got a hit and a walk  
moespree : 10/13/2015 2:49 pm : link
.
Duda has his struggles  
Mike in NY : 10/13/2015 2:56 pm : link
But he is better than Cuddyer defensively and playing Cuddyer would leave Plawecki as the only right handed bat off the bench. Also the line-up did produce 13 runs last night so Terry Collins might want to see if they can produce enough tonight to clinch.
Collins has long said  
ZGiants98 : 10/13/2015 2:59 pm : link
Murphy, Duda, and Granderson would play against lefties in the playoffs. So far its worked like a charm.
RE: Collins has long said  
Rory : 10/13/2015 3:01 pm : link
In comment 12547278 ZGiants98 said:
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Murphy, Duda, and Granderson would play against lefties in the playoffs. So far its worked like a charm.


This ^
This is the third year in a row Kershaw is pitching on short rest  
sjnyfan : 10/13/2015 3:15 pm : link
In 2013 he threw 124 pitches in Game 1 but was pulled after 6 IP and 91 pitches in a clinching win in game 4 against the Braves.

In 2014 however, he became only the 4th pitcher since 2000 to throw 100+ pitches in two starts on three days rest. His last pitch was a 3 run HR that put the Cardinals ahead on a 3-2 series clinching win.

Longwinded way in stating the obvious: we need to get Kershaw's pitch count up. He was gassed towards the end of Game 1. I wonder how much he has left.

The key with Matz will be the first few innings. He'll be jacked with adrenaline. Gotta keep him calm and hopefully keep his pitch count down.
I dont have the numbers in front of me  
Headhunter : 10/13/2015 3:20 pm : link
but I think I read lefties do better than righties against Kershaw with the reason being he wont throw his Curve Ball to lefties making him a 2 pitch pitcher against them
Enemy Lineup this evening  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2015 3:21 pm : link
Hernandez CF
Kendrick 2B
Gonzalez 1B
Turner 3B
Seager SS
Puig RF
Ellis C
Ruggiano LF
Kershaw P


...man they seem to have a lot of platoon hitters in that lineup. AG, Kendrick and Turner seemingly their only everyday players.
Duda will do just fine  
stillpoe : 10/13/2015 3:21 pm : link
He fared well against Kershaw in Game 1 and would actually be the kind of hitter that would help us against him tonight. He's pitching on short rest and Duda will work the count, so his patience will help get Kershaw out of the game sooner.
Dodgers rolling with a tough lineup  
gmen9892 : 10/13/2015 3:21 pm : link
Hernandez CF
Kendrick 2B
Gonzalez 1B
Turner 3B
Seager SS
Puig RF
Ellis C
Ruggiano LF
Kershaw P


Hoping Matz can get past the early nerves and handle these tough righties.
Only thing that worries me about Matz  
moespree : 10/13/2015 3:25 pm : link
Is pitch count. I definitely don't see the moment as being too big for him, so I'm not concerned about that. But I am concerned about 100 pitches in the 5th inning. That's something that could definitely happen.
Moespree if that happens  
Chris684 : 10/13/2015 3:27 pm : link
I put Bart out there for another couple of innings. I trust him more than any bullpen option outside of Familia.
If Matz is on  
Headhunter : 10/13/2015 3:28 pm : link
he is not afraid to pitch to contact. I followed games in the minors when he went 8 innings and threw 81 pitches a few times
I want to see Robles on the mound  
spike : 10/13/2015 3:28 pm : link
should the bullpen use is necessaryy
Clippard  
ryanmkeane : 10/13/2015 3:31 pm : link
should be ready to roll, I think he'll be out there in a big spot tonight.
Well lets say we have a lead after 5 and Matz is >100 pitches  
MetsAreBack : 10/13/2015 3:33 pm : link
is degrom ready to go? He'd be a nice 3 inning bridge to Familia - especially considering the Dodgers righty heavy lineup tonight (which they'd have to go through their entire bench if we did that)

I like our odds better tonight to close this out than to go to LA and try to beat Greinke. And Thor would be on normal rest Thursday too.

A lot of what ifs here though -- hopefully Matz steps up and pitches efficiently.
Wilmer Flores is going to  
Chris684 : 10/13/2015 3:44 pm : link
have another BIG moment tonight.

I'm going on record now.
If they're unwilling to play Conforto v lefties...  
Torrag : 10/13/2015 5:13 pm : link
which imo is stupid, this is the best lineup we can muster.
RE: If they're unwilling to play Conforto v lefties...  
gmen9892 : 10/13/2015 5:15 pm : link
In comment 12547735 Torrag said:
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which imo is stupid, this is the best lineup we can muster.


If they werent going to put him in against Brett Anderson last night, there was 0 chance that they were gonna put him in there tonight. I agree that I think he can hit lefties and its dumb to have him out, but at this point, it is what it is for the rest of the year. Especially tonight though against Kershaw, that is not the spot you want him to be hitting against his first lefty starter in the majors.
Yeah, with Conforto its a bit frustrating  
PhiPsi125 : 10/13/2015 5:32 pm : link
All we've seen him do is show up in big moments and he definitely knows how to work an at-bat. I mean, he's a young rookie...so he's entitled to nothing...but leaving him on the bench seems a bit shortsighted. Plus - he was kinda really good. Eh, can't win them all. At least Cuddyer was relegated to the bench after that embarrassment in Game 1.
Duda can look horrible for 30 pitches  
madgiantscow009 : 10/13/2015 6:22 pm : link
but with his power, it only takes one.
hoping matz can get through 6 with 2 runs or less  
CGiants07 : 10/13/2015 6:28 pm : link
and we can scrape a couple runs off kershaw by working his pitch count and executing
RE: Duda has his struggles  
SJGiant : 10/13/2015 6:29 pm : link
In comment 12547270 Mike in NY said:
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But he is better than Cuddyer defensively and playing Cuddyer would leave Plawecki as the only right handed bat off the bench. Also the line-up did produce 13 runs last night so Terry Collins might want to see if they can produce enough tonight to clinch.



Matt Reynolds is a right handed batter
RE: Yeah, with Conforto its a bit frustrating  
Rory : 10/13/2015 7:10 pm : link
In comment 12547773 PhiPsi125 said:
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All we've seen him do is show up in big moments and he definitely knows how to work an at-bat. I mean, he's a young rookie...so he's entitled to nothing...but leaving him on the bench seems a bit shortsighted. Plus - he was kinda really good. Eh, can't win them all. At least Cuddyer was relegated to the bench after that embarrassment in Game 1.


Terry values defense over offense. Lagares was inches away from stealing a HR from A-Gonzalez last night . He also seems to have become somewhat a better contact hitter. Which could result in more pitches for Kershaw.

Let's go Matz !!

Cubs about to  
Rory : 10/13/2015 7:54 pm : link
Beat cards.

NLCS in Queens ???
Good luck to us all tonight.  
glowrider : 10/13/2015 8:01 pm : link
Don't be pussies. Keep it strong in here.

Let's kick these fuckers out of our house, humble their arrogance, and look forward to the next series.

Let's end Chase Utley's season.
boom  
GMenLTS : 10/13/2015 8:09 pm : link
.
Get  
Rory : 10/13/2015 8:13 pm : link
Nasty mets fans !

Ya gotta believe !!
He needed that for his confidence  
Canton : 10/13/2015 8:13 pm : link
He deserves a storybook win.
Nice start for Matz.  
Ira : 10/13/2015 8:13 pm : link
Now let's see what we can do against Kershaw.
RE: Only thing that worries me about Matz  
Canton : 10/13/2015 8:14 pm : link
In comment 12547339 moespree said:
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Is pitch count. I definitely don't see the moment as being too big for him, so I'm not concerned about that. But I am concerned about 100 pitches in the 5th inning. That's something that could definitely happen.


Or maybe won't..
going to be a great LHP matchup  
RasputinPrime : 10/13/2015 8:18 pm : link
will Kershaw reverse the playoff curse or will the kid best him. Should be good.
18 pitches for Kershaw  
sjnyfan : 10/13/2015 8:23 pm : link
in the first
Duda Ks again  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:42 pm : link
8 so far in this series
RE: Clippard  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:44 pm : link
In comment 12547364 ryanmkeane said:
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should be ready to roll, I think he'll be out there in a big spot tonight.


Lets hope we're not in that position, i dont trust him for shit
Matz just Kershaw'd Kershaw  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2015 8:46 pm : link
He is quite an impressive player.
Jesus christ man  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:53 pm : link
what a cheap fucking run
Fucking justin turner again  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:55 pm : link
GODDAMNIT. And wtf is cespedes doin in LF
Blame TDA  
Rflairr : 10/13/2015 8:55 pm : link
Getting cute with Kershaw. Why are you having him throw curves to the pitcher when he has a 95 mph fastball
This all started because matz couldn't put kershaw away  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:56 pm : link
FUCK
Well that sucked  
Eric on Li : 10/13/2015 8:57 pm : link
all on 2 out hits. Time for the bats to go to work, can't let Kershaw get on a roll. Need to answer like last night, even if they can only scratch out 1 run.
When in the hell did Justin Turner become Manny Ramirez at the plate??  
nyjuggernaut2 : 10/13/2015 8:57 pm : link
Such BS that we can't get this scrub out this series.
RE: When in the hell did Justin Turner become Manny Ramirez at the plate??  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12548066 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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Such BS that we can't get this scrub out this series.


It's fucking maddening
We've done this before  
GMenLTS : 10/13/2015 9:00 pm : link
keep working the counts, get him out of the game.

We can still do this.
We can't even get a hit off him this time around  
Canton : 10/13/2015 9:03 pm : link
I hope we can get to him
I actually think he was sharper in game 1 than today  
moespree : 10/13/2015 9:04 pm : link
And yet so far is getting a better result.
RE: We can't even get a hit off him this time around  
Rory : 10/13/2015 9:04 pm : link
In comment 12548079 Canton said:
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I hope we can get to him


It's early yet , have faith
Matz cannot give up any more runs  
Giants4246 : 10/13/2015 9:07 pm : link
.
heart of the order  
GMenLTS : 10/13/2015 9:09 pm : link
time to chip away
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