that people will poo-poo after we win by saying that we are playing a bunch of shitty QB's.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
and all of our division rivals played good last week......
If the Giants got their asses handed to them at home against the Pats, I'm pretty sure this board would be looking to run multiple players and coaches out of town.
the next two weeks may tell us if the Giants are contenders or pretenders...
2 wins and the Giants have the division all but locked up. Cowboys would drop to 2-4 with Romo still weeks from returning and the Eagles would be 2-5 (or 3-4) but more importantly 0-3 in the division.
Don't care about Cassel... But will Beatty be activated and playing?
I went to training camp and watched all 4 pre-season games and he didn't throw the ball beyond 10 yards past the line of scrimmage. He's Brandon Weedln light: same arm strength, less accuracy.
that people will poo-poo after we win by saying that we are playing a bunch of shitty QB's.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
One would have to be an utter moron to inject "back-up anything" or the "injury factor" as an excuse after what WE went through the last two years..
the next two weeks may tell us if the Giants are contenders or pretenders...
2 wins and the Giants have the division all but locked up. Cowboys would drop to 2-4 with Romo still weeks from returning and the Eagles would be 2-5 (or 3-4) but more importantly 0-3 in the division.
That is how big the swing is.
If the Giants win the next 2 games on top of the Eagles losing the next week at Carolina on a Sunday night (after the Giants game), there is a chance to go up 3 1/2 games on them and 2 games up on Dallas before they have to play Seattle.
We have to take advantage of this. The problem is I don't see the Giants getting both games here.
I have seen the Giants lose to the Cowboys without Romo, so even that game they are not totally out of the woods.
the year Brady was injured, but not so well since. He certainly has more experience as a starter. I also was impressed by the Cowboys front 7 against the Patriots, and I'm worried about that. I'm worried about everything. It's gotta be tricky to move right into starting with relatively little time working with the rest of the team.
But I swear it seems to me that for the Cowboys Witten just runs out 10 yards, turns around, and the ball is there for a first down. I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but after watching that for a decade or so, it seems like anybody could just stand there for a few seconds and then chuck the ball to him. Witten, Weeden, whatever. Drives me crazy.
doesn't matter who is the qb! If you watched the NE-cowturd game did you notice how NE double covered Witten and shut him down? I wonder if Brady realized he was helping the Jints by beating the cowturds?
If they don't have a high functioning Dez Bryant available...
I'm also concerned about Dallas's defense, now that Greg Hardy is back and obviously a force. And I believe Dallas moved him around on the DL against New England.
He has won 34 games as a starter, and led two different teams to 10-5 records in that role. (Really 11-5 in New England; Brady left the 2008 opener with the game scoreless.) Belichick and a soft schedule may have carried him in 2008, but he was solid for Todd Haley in 2010 - until that horrific wild card game against Baltimore.
Weeden has a career record of 5-19. I don't care how bad the Browns were. He's now 0-4 with Dallas.
On the plus side, Cassel has done nothing since 2010, and has lost three jobs to fairly tepid competition. Saying that he is more accomplished than Brandon Weeden is fairly faint praise, and his meager accomplishments are rapidly fading into history.
Neither will win the game for them if it's on the line like Romo can and has. If Dallas does manage to win it will be because their front 7, which as Eric pointed out has seen a serious boost with the return of Hardy and McClain, keeps the Giants under 17 points. To me that's almost like the magic number. A Cassel (or Weeden, for that matter)led offense is going to struggle to put up over 20 points unless they get serious help (turnovers, good field position via special teams) from the opposition. IMO if they score 20 they win.
Also, this Dallas/extra week-New York/short week scheduling thing is absolute bullshit.
But our dogs have been playing to contain running qbs. While Cassel has to be more mobile then Weeden, he's not going to heat you with his legs like the guys we just played. So we should be less concerned with boxing him in and throw a few more punches at him.
were like a well oiled machine(save for first half ending int.) that first half with his full(save for Cruz) complement of players..If they're back to full strength on O, we're not losing to the Cowboys, Dez or no Dez, imo
...that think they can make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. How the hell would anyone think Breeden is any bit a capable QB? He has no business being a backup, he is not even a game manager. He will actively lose you games. Ha ha.
Same applies to Houston's coach (a demonstrable, uncouth idiot, IMO). Chip Kelly too.
No he will not. At best he will be practicing with the team at that point (and it will be interesting to learn what position he is practicing at). Unless there is an injury to an OL, I wouldn't expect him to be added to the 53 man roster until week nine or so.
Neither will win the game for them if it's on the line like Romo can and has. If Dallas does manage to win it will be because their front 7, which as Eric pointed out has seen a serious boost with the return of Hardy and McClain, keeps the Giants under 17 points. To me that's almost like the magic number. A Cassel (or Weeden, for that matter)led offense is going to struggle to put up over 20 points unless they get serious help (turnovers, good field position via special teams) from the opposition. IMO if they score 20 they win.
Also, this Dallas/extra week-New York/short week scheduling thing is absolute bullshit.
We almost beat these guys in Dallas when they had Romo and at least some Dez along with that vaunted offensive line. Remember we had ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING OFFENSE that game. Again that was with Romo, some Dez, and no fucking offense.
I don't care about them right now though. I pumped for Philly and I wish I didn't have to wait until Monday. We've got a chance to put Philly 2 games out and watch EDP go nuclear chubmarine.
that people will poo-poo after we win by saying that we are playing a bunch of shitty QB's.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
One would have to be an utter moron to inject "back-up anything" or the "injury factor" as an excuse after what WE went through the last two years..
to be fair the cowboys are more injured than the giants ever have been, including one very important part. a top 5 qb.
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones spoke highly of Brandon Weeden on Sept. 22 as the quarterback prepares to enter the starting lineup for the injured Tony Romo. Jones stated it's "a thing of beauty" when the veteran backup throws the football.
And this....."Frankly, you won't see a more gifted passer," Jones said.
To be fair the cowboys are more injured than the giants ever have been, including one very important part. a top 5 qb.
The Cowboys are missing their starting QB. That's an incredibly difficult injury for any team to overcome. (Keep in mind, though: they picked Weeden as the backup to Romo, who has never been mistaken for an Eli-style Iron Man, and they are living with the consequences of that choice.)
Once you get past Romo, their injury situation isn't really that bad. Bryant will be back soon - maybe as early as the Giant game. Gregory has already declared himself fit, and I don't think they were counting on him for a big contribution this year anyway, though he seemed to be surpassing expectations before the ankle. Knee injuries knocked out one member of their running-back-by-committee, plus one very good cornerback.
By comparison, the Giants have played the whole season without their starting left tackle, their franchise DE, and their star slot receiver who is being paid like a #1. The actual #1 and #2 receivers both pulled hamstrings on Sunday. The #2 TE suffered a likely career-ending infection, and #3 is nursing a bad knee. Both starting DEs (after subtracting the aforementioned franchise player) have been out for weeks. Three of their four best linebackers are questionable or worse for Monday's game. Two of their top three safeties were signed off the street to replace three promising young players on IR.
Qualitatively, Dallas is more hobbled by injuries - simply because a franchise QB trumps everything else, and because the Cowboys are so dependent on Romo and Bryant. Quantitatively, the Giants are a medical mess. The silver lining is that seven or eight of their injuries are week-to-week, so reinforcements could be on the way, with Beatty's return on the horizon as well.
This game is going to be a bitch.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
If the Giants got their asses handed to them at home against the Pats, I'm pretty sure this board would be looking to run multiple players and coaches out of town.
2 wins and the Giants have the division all but locked up. Cowboys would drop to 2-4 with Romo still weeks from returning and the Eagles would be 2-5 (or 3-4) but more importantly 0-3 in the division.
Weeden has been bad, but I don't know if Cassel is going to be much better.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
One would have to be an utter moron to inject "back-up anything" or the "injury factor" as an excuse after what WE went through the last two years..
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the next two weeks may tell us if the Giants are contenders or pretenders...
2 wins and the Giants have the division all but locked up. Cowboys would drop to 2-4 with Romo still weeks from returning and the Eagles would be 2-5 (or 3-4) but more importantly 0-3 in the division.
That is how big the swing is.
If the Giants win the next 2 games on top of the Eagles losing the next week at Carolina on a Sunday night (after the Giants game), there is a chance to go up 3 1/2 games on them and 2 games up on Dallas before they have to play Seattle.
We have to take advantage of this. The problem is I don't see the Giants getting both games here.
I have seen the Giants lose to the Cowboys without Romo, so even that game they are not totally out of the woods.
Matt Cassel has started a bunch of games...
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattcassel/2506562/profile - ( New Window )
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Cassel was 15-32 for 127 yards and 2 TDs in his one career start against, a 27-16 loss at Arrowhead in 2009.
Matt Cassel has started a bunch of games... http://www.nfl.com/player/mattcassel/2506562/profile - ( New Window )
I think he meant his one start against the Giants
But I swear it seems to me that for the Cowboys Witten just runs out 10 yards, turns around, and the ball is there for a first down. I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but after watching that for a decade or so, it seems like anybody could just stand there for a few seconds and then chuck the ball to him. Witten, Weeden, whatever. Drives me crazy.
If they continue to be as injury-riddled as they were by the end of the Niners game, these 2 games won't tell us anything at all.
I can't wait to come out of the next two weeks looking at the eagles and cowboys in the rear view.
Fuck both those teams with a rusty dildo.
Or, maybe not.
Weeden has a career record of 5-19. I don't care how bad the Browns were. He's now 0-4 with Dallas.
On the plus side, Cassel has done nothing since 2010, and has lost three jobs to fairly tepid competition. Saying that he is more accomplished than Brandon Weeden is fairly faint praise, and his meager accomplishments are rapidly fading into history.
Also, this Dallas/extra week-New York/short week scheduling thing is absolute bullshit.
Dallas front 7 is scary
This game is going to be a bitch.
Indeed.
We have dogs? I'd like to have seen them sooner pass rush than this
This game is going to be a bitch.
True but their offensive line has not been up to par lately and they had no running game against NE.
Same applies to Houston's coach (a demonstrable, uncouth idiot, IMO). Chip Kelly too.
Come on people.. we had Dallas in the season opener.. with Tony and Dez playing..
The Ref's helped them with that win.
I am not worried about them in the least..
Now the Eagles is another story..
Cassel is probably better than Weeden, but he's not a good quarterback.
E. Flowers is better than M. Cannon
Quick pass again and beat to death the RB' out of the backfield. I have always worried about the Dallas offense and getting them off the field.
Lets get through Philly first
Also, this Dallas/extra week-New York/short week scheduling thing is absolute bullshit.
We almost beat these guys in Dallas when they had Romo and at least some Dez along with that vaunted offensive line. Remember we had ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING OFFENSE that game. Again that was with Romo, some Dez, and no fucking offense.
I don't care about them right now though. I pumped for Philly and I wish I didn't have to wait until Monday. We've got a chance to put Philly 2 games out and watch EDP go nuclear chubmarine.
This game is going to be a bitch.
I've been thinking about that. Greg Hardy + Randy Gregory both being there is going to make there D tough.
Michael Vick 100.2
Josh Freeman 95.9
Matt Cassel 93.0
Entering 2011, fans of the Eagles, Bucs and Chiefs envisioned a glorious future. By 2012, all three QBs had crashed and burned.
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that people will poo-poo after we win by saying that we are playing a bunch of shitty QB's.
By the end of the year, victories over Taylor, Kap, Cousins (twice), Cassel, Bradford and Winston will be chalked up to getting lucky by playing absolute dreck behind center.
At least Cassel won't have seen any action in some time before facing us.
One would have to be an utter moron to inject "back-up anything" or the "injury factor" as an excuse after what WE went through the last two years..
to be fair the cowboys are more injured than the giants ever have been, including one very important part. a top 5 qb.
And this....."Frankly, you won't see a more gifted passer," Jones said.
Weeden sucks and they had to make this move.
The Cowboys are missing their starting QB. That's an incredibly difficult injury for any team to overcome. (Keep in mind, though: they picked Weeden as the backup to Romo, who has never been mistaken for an Eli-style Iron Man, and they are living with the consequences of that choice.)
Once you get past Romo, their injury situation isn't really that bad. Bryant will be back soon - maybe as early as the Giant game. Gregory has already declared himself fit, and I don't think they were counting on him for a big contribution this year anyway, though he seemed to be surpassing expectations before the ankle. Knee injuries knocked out one member of their running-back-by-committee, plus one very good cornerback.
By comparison, the Giants have played the whole season without their starting left tackle, their franchise DE, and their star slot receiver who is being paid like a #1. The actual #1 and #2 receivers both pulled hamstrings on Sunday. The #2 TE suffered a likely career-ending infection, and #3 is nursing a bad knee. Both starting DEs (after subtracting the aforementioned franchise player) have been out for weeks. Three of their four best linebackers are questionable or worse for Monday's game. Two of their top three safeties were signed off the street to replace three promising young players on IR.
Qualitatively, Dallas is more hobbled by injuries - simply because a franchise QB trumps everything else, and because the Cowboys are so dependent on Romo and Bryant. Quantitatively, the Giants are a medical mess. The silver lining is that seven or eight of their injuries are week-to-week, so reinforcements could be on the way, with Beatty's return on the horizon as well.