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Rueben Randle - does he exasperate you?

Jim in Forest Hills : 10/26/2015 10:39 am
I was excited when they drafted him, I get the whole 1st round grade talk, great value, steal, etc.

I get that players take time to develop, I was burned on the Corey Webster bandwagon (I thought he was terrible after getting trucked by Marion Barber and then he became a shutdown corner). I'm patiently waiting for him to ascend or at least stabilize.

His production hasn't been terrible:
Year Team G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM
2015 New York Giants 7 26 329 12.7 47.0 44 2 5 2 17 0
2014 New York Giants 16 71 938 13.2 58.6 49 3 12 2 48 0
2013 New York Giants 16 41 611 14.9 38.2 37T 6 16 0 28 1
2012 New York Giants 16 19 298 15.7 18.6 56 3 4 2 13 0
TOTAL 55 157 2,176 13.9 39.6 56 14 37 6 106 1

But he frustrates the hell out of me sometimes. The drop hurt to watch, I mean that was a perfect throw.

For me the maddening portion is running out of bounds after the bomb, why? Is he protecting an injury? I mean, isn't the objective there to try and outrun the defender?

He's also a big guy, can't he stiff arm or outmuscle the defender? Knowing that football is a game of inches, wouldn't you try to get every yard? Why wouldn't he think 6 there?

It just frustrates me since I don't understand the thought process there. I don't care that he's not fiery, that's fine, it just feels like there is a disconnect there. Is this an overreaction? I'm happy with the win, I just want winning players on the team.
Yes is he protecting an injury.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/26/2015 10:41 am : link
He ran that route like a Tight End. He's clearly laboring out there.

There are a lot of RR apologists on this board  
dep026 : 10/26/2015 10:42 am : link
it's clear as day this guy cannot be relied upon to be a top 3 WR on your team. He made a great outstanding catch. But he also dropped 2 more inside the 20, including a perfectly place post pattern.

Simply put. He is not very good.
How about when he had steps  
Funkhouser : 10/26/2015 10:43 am : link
on the DBs, yet runs out of bounds. Brains, yes, they are lacking.
I  
AcidTest : 10/26/2015 10:43 am : link
think like Hosley, he won't be back next season. He's been inconsistent, and has tendonitis in his knees. His situation is complicated by what happens with Cruz, but although the Giants may make him an offer, I think he'll get more from someone else.
No, he doesn't  
JonC : 10/26/2015 10:44 am : link
because I accepted a long time ago he's got a number of mental deficiencies in his makeup.

It did piss me off that he made that beautiful separation and catch ... and then hops out of bounds, along with dropping a pass in a big spot later in the game.

Yesterday was Randle in a nutshell.
RE: How about when he had steps  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/26/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12577007 Funkhouser said:
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on the DBs, yet runs out of bounds. Brains, yes, they are lacking.


Is it easier to believe that he just decided he didn't want to score, or that he's got knee tendinitis and a hamstring that's limiting him?
RE: How about when he had steps  
jcn56 : 10/26/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12577007 Funkhouser said:
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on the DBs, yet runs out of bounds. Brains, yes, they are lacking.


Actually, that was a smart move. He's banged up - would have had 2-3 more yards and taken a pounding. We had the first, he was better off going out of bounds.

To some extent, I feel sorry for Randle. I don't think he's healthy, and he's pushing through it as a combo of helping the team and the fact that he's in a contract year. When he looks less than 100%, he immediately takes shit for it.

The only reason I'm not completely sympathetic is that it took some time for the light to come on for him, and that's why people are quick to criticize him.
RE: There are a lot of RR apologists on this board  
rocco8112 : 10/26/2015 10:45 am : link
In comment 12577002 dep026 said:
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it's clear as day this guy cannot be relied upon to be a top 3 WR on your team. He made a great outstanding catch. But he also dropped 2 more inside the 20, including a perfectly place post pattern.

Simply put. He is not very good.


I have to say, I agree. As far as those talking abut an injury, he looks the same to me as he has these past few seasons.
My dad is a skins fan and  
bradshaw44 : 10/26/2015 10:46 am : link
When Randle caught the long one handed pass, he text me saying "nice catch by Randle". I replied "he's a bum". He said "why"? I wrote back "because he was a second round pick who shows up once in a blue. He's incredibly frustrating". And sure enough a few plays later he drops a perfect long ball down the middle from Eli. My dad Texts back "I see what you mean".
That draft  
Shadow : 10/26/2015 10:46 am : link
Again. Would have been better if they pulled the players out of a hat.
I'm done with him  
Stu11 : 10/26/2015 10:47 am : link
play out the season and let him walk. Start over with a draft pick or one of the developmental guys like Davis. The guy is maddening. He makes a one handed 45 yard catch and then kills the next drive with a ridiculous drop. This is the story of him. Hamstring or no hamstring way too often he doesn't finish a cut or route and fight through contact. maybe the light bulb comes on in 2 or 3 years but I'm sick of waiting. I do not make these statements on here often. I'm too patient, but it hit me driving i this AM listening to Pappa and Shannon Sharpe on Sirius. they were talking about the greatness of Belicheck and how he's not sentimental. He doesn't pay for past performance. when you are done he has no use for you. Not saying that's necessarily the case here because there was very little past performance. However we have been too patient with draft picks at times. Time to cut bait.
I think it's time to move on  
The_Boss : 10/26/2015 10:47 am : link
From Randle. I know he's dealing with a hammy, but the guy is never wide open, even when healthy. I haven't done much research yet on draft eligible WR's, but given the NYG were hoping for Jalen Strong in the 3rd round last spring, I think it's a safe assumption they're looking for an upgrade.
He makes that catch  
Bleedblue10 : 10/26/2015 10:49 am : link
On the post were talking about a different game here and people aren't complaining about how we won. That could have put us up 10-14 points there. But just like the slant pass earlier in the game he took his eyes off the ball cause he's scared to get hit. I can't stand the guy and hope we don't offer him shit next year cause I want to see where he ends up. I guarantee ull never see him again if we don't bring him back
Yeah, I don't see him as a keeper  
BillT : 10/26/2015 10:49 am : link
But it's also clear his knees have gotten the better of him and he's not physically up to par and probably will never be.
What's this 'waiting for the lightbulb to turn on' talk?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/26/2015 10:49 am : link
71 catches, 938 yards in a year where Beckham dominated the offense would be that.
It is amazing how similar Randle and Donnell are  
jlukes : 10/26/2015 10:50 am : link
at this point, they are fighting over the nickname "shows flashes"
I think he's an average player  
djm : 10/26/2015 10:50 am : link
that was afforded an incredible opportunity here but hasn't really seized the moment. He may be a little nicked up but in my eyes Randle is not a guy you want to build around. He's an OK player but I wouldn't pay him any serious long term money. I think the Giants can do a lot better.

Randle has no real twitch in his game. He's not a great YAC guy. He can win some one on one battles and his hands are OK. Add it up and he is what he is. Manningham was a better player.
RE: That draft  
AcidTest : 10/26/2015 10:50 am : link
In comment 12577035 Shadow said:
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Again. Would have been better if they pulled the players out of a hat.


I think they did.
"1st round grade"  
theold5j : 10/26/2015 10:51 am : link
seems like we hear this every year, which to me makes the front office look even worse.

they drafted a guy outside of the 1st round, who they graded as a 1st round talent. and he stinks. so they made 2 mistakes. 1 in the 1st round grade and another in drafting him.
RE: RE: How about when he had steps  
Funkhouser : 10/26/2015 10:53 am : link
In comment 12577017 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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on the DBs, yet runs out of bounds. Brains, yes, they are lacking.



Is it easier to believe that he just decided he didn't want to score, or that he's got knee tendinitis and a hamstring that's limiting him?


So, say nobody was within 10 yards of him, the field was open, should he run out of bounds because his knee hurts?
Yes he has several "roll your eyes" moments each game  
Jimmy Googs : 10/26/2015 10:57 am : link
He gets lost for long periods of time, struggles getting off the line with any type of urgency, and isnt exactly a strong fighter for the ball.

Yesterday he decided to "wow" us with a one handed catch, and then proceeded to disappoint us on the same play by casually running out of bounds for no reason.

Just what you want with a 2nd round pick...
I don't even see that as a comparison  
Bleedblue10 : 10/26/2015 10:57 am : link
Manningham was wayyyy better than this guy. I remember games when Nicks was hurt and he had to start,MM always showed up and although he wasn't the brightest guy he had a lot more talent than he gets credit for. And way more talent than this guy.
I think  
mushroom : 10/26/2015 10:57 am : link
the one play that bothered me more was the 3 and 5 after the drop. Seemed like a timing play just past the marker and he is still driving up field when the ball is thrown.
RE:  
djm : 10/26/2015 10:58 am : link
In comment 12577063 theold5j said:
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seems like we hear this every year, which to me makes the front office look even worse.

they drafted a guy outside of the 1st round, who they graded as a 1st round talent. and he stinks. so they made 2 mistakes. 1 in the 1st round grade and another in drafting him.


HE doesn't stink --relax. The guy will probably play in the NFL for 7-10 years and catch 400 passes. He's an OK player maybe he even improves but to sit here and say the guy stinks or it was a terrible draft pick is just ridiculous. He's probably playing to his late 2nd round class.

I don't know why I brought up Manningham  
djm : 10/26/2015 11:01 am : link
just figured it was an interesting comparison to make. Mario was a 3rd rounder and got to play next to some good WR talent. Also had Eli throwing him the ball. Randle got to play next to Beckum..also has Eli here.

Just think Mario was better value and a better player. More of a gamer.
I disagree with that  
Bleedblue10 : 10/26/2015 11:04 am : link
He does stink. This guy is always lined up in single coverage against the teams 2nd and 3rd best corners and he shows up every 4-5 games. Maybe he's more hurt than I think he is but he should be having a field day with the coverage he gets. Obj does get that much attention and Randle really doesn't do much with it.
I think Randle is an alright #3 WR on a team.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/26/2015 11:06 am : link
Our problem is we're asking him to be the #2 behind Beckham, with Cruz out. Big problem.
Davis  
AcidTest : 10/26/2015 11:08 am : link
is the same size, more muscular, healthier, younger, and cheaper. I'm not saying he'll amount to anything, but he has a decent chance of being the #3 WR next year. The question is who is #2?
The biggest problem I have with him  
GiantFanInTX : 10/26/2015 11:18 am : link
is his lack of fight for the ball. He never out-muscles DBs on slant routes. He just doesn't seem to have any fire and desire for the football at times. You watch some other guys who are truly hungry and have his kind of size and they can't be denied. I'm not a fan of Randle. He'll make a few plays here and there like he did last night, but when you need him the most, he will fail you.
The bad news for us  
The_Boss : 10/26/2015 11:22 am : link
Is, for draft prospects, 2016 is looking to be an awful year for draft eligible WR's. So, 2 of our 3 biggest needs (DE and WR) are major weaknesses in the upcoming draft. Our 3rd need is probably THE strength of the draft tho, CB.
the thread should have ended when the OP said  
hitdog42 : 10/26/2015 11:23 am : link
"is he protecting and injury".

that's great---
Randle is just another guy out there  
PatersonPlank : 10/26/2015 11:29 am : link
He stats are ok, he won't get any better than this, he's a solid #3 (or low #2), and we could replace him with about 50 other guys at any time and get the same result. I am fine with him as the #3 when Cruz comes back. I am not fine with him as our #2.
Would we be better with  
Shadow : 10/26/2015 11:33 am : link
Sanu or Ty Hilton
Both were there.
He is a "production" pick  
Vanzetti : 10/26/2015 11:33 am : link
He will likely have close to 200 receptions in his four years with the Giants. He does not have great upside and will likely never be much better than he is now.

Giants paid about 6 million for a third WR for 4 years. That's good value.

Let him walk and take the comp pick.
There are some nice free agents to be had next year...  
BlueGuy : 10/26/2015 11:35 am : link
I'd take Anquan Boldin in a heart beat. Fukn dude is a winner and a tough SOB.

Anquan Boldin WR 35 SF TBD $6,909,000 UFA
Malcom Floyd WR 34 SD TBD $4,716,668 UFA
Percy Harvin WR 27 BUF TBD $4,000,000 UFA
M. Crabtree WR 28 OAK TBD $3,200,000 UFA
Rod Streater WR 27 OAK TBD $2,356,000 UFA
Jermaine Kearse WR 25 SEA TBD $2,356,000 UFA
Miles Austin WR 31 PHI TBD $2,225,000 UFA
Brian Quick WR 26 STL TBD $1,713,918 UFA
Mohamed Sanu WR 26 CIN TBD $1,682,813 UFA
Andre Caldwell WR 30 DEN TBD $1,550,000 UFA
Andre Holmes WR 27 OAK TBD $1,542,000 UFA
Alshon Jeffery WR 25 CHI TBD $1,447,036 UFA
Rueben Randle WR 24 NYG TBD $1,047,432 UFA
Leon. Hankerson WR 26 WAS TBD $1,000,000 UFA
Travis Benjamin WR 25 CLE TBD $779,250 UFA
Jordan Norwood WR 29 DEN TBD $745,000 UFA
Marvin Jones WR 25 CIN TBD $700,700 UFA
Rish. Matthews WR 26 MIA TBD $673,403 UFA
Seyi Ajirotutu WR 28 PHI TBD $665,000 UFA
Brandon Tate WR 28 CIN TBD $665,000 UFA
Jason Avant WR 32 KC TBD $665,000 UFA
Brandon Gibson WR 28 NE TBD $665,000 UFA
Lance Moore WR 32 DET TBD $665,000 UFA
D Heyward-Bey WR 28 PIT TBD $665,000 UFA
Ric. Lockette WR 29 SEA TBD $660,000 UFA

Pissing and moaning over nothing  
HomerJones45 : 10/26/2015 12:00 pm : link
Guy catches a 44 yarder and 24 yarder and there is complaining.

Saying he's not a top 3 receiver on this team is retarded. If you think other receivers don't drop passes, you're not watching any other teams.

Go ahead and not sign him and you are going to be drafting another wideout with a top pick and that means you aren't using that pick on the defense which still needs helps and speed. A 24 year old receiver with a 70 catch 1000 yard season under his belt is going to be a hot commodity as a FA.
RE: Pissing and moaning over nothing  
Big Blue '56 : 10/26/2015 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12577328 HomerJones45 said:
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Guy catches a 44 yarder and 24 yarder and there is complaining.

Saying he's not a top 3 receiver on this team is retarded. If you think other receivers don't drop passes, you're not watching any other teams.

Go ahead and not sign him and you are going to be drafting another wideout with a top pick and that means you aren't using that pick on the defense which still needs helps and speed. A 24 year old receiver with a 70 catch 1000 yard season under his belt is going to be a hot commodity as a FA.


I'd absolutely try to resign him..At what Cost? Not sure at this point
Boldin>Randle  
BlueGuy : 10/26/2015 12:17 pm : link
And cheaper, too....
Anyone who thinks Randle is not good enough  
mrvax : 10/26/2015 12:19 pm : link
to be a 3rd WR is nuts. Look at other team's 3rd wideouts and tell me how much better they are than Randle. Bull.

He's not the guy you want as a 1st or 2nd option, but if he isn't asking for much, I'd take him back at $3-4M per.

I agree he is frustrating because he seems to have the talent to play much better but I think he may be stupid. He is nursing an injury so I give him a pass for the sideline/run out of bounds play but that amazing pass & drop is terrible.



Resigning him  
AP in Halfmoon : 10/26/2015 12:20 pm : link
would depend on the condition of his legs and the price tag. I agree on the point that every WR drops a pass occasionally. He's much better than he gets credit for
RE: Boldin>Randle  
Big Blue '56 : 10/26/2015 12:23 pm : link
In comment 12577395 BlueGuy said:
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And cheaper, too....


So sign a 36 year-old(next season) over a 24-25 year-old..Get it..
RE: RE: Boldin>Randle  
BlueGuy : 10/26/2015 12:26 pm : link
In comment 12577425 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 12577395 BlueGuy said:


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And cheaper, too....



So sign a 36 year-old(next season) over a 24-25 year-old..Get it..


You think Randle is better than Boldin?!? Whatever you say, boss.....
The  
AcidTest : 10/26/2015 12:30 pm : link
Giants will offer him a contract. Someone else will offer more. I wouldn't get into a bidding war for Randle. I assume no one else would either. Randle is a big possession receiver with good hands, but who has tendonitis, and limited speed and YAC ability. He was also suspended twice last year. As someone else said, the Giants were looking to draft Strong, who is similar to Randle. So is Davis. Randle is an NFL player, but next year he'll likely be playing for someone else.
RE: RE: RE: Boldin>Randle  
bradshaw44 : 10/26/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12577431 BlueGuy said:
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In comment 12577425 Big Blue '56 said:


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In comment 12577395 BlueGuy said:


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And cheaper, too....



So sign a 36 year-old(next season) over a 24-25 year-old..Get it..



You think Randle is better than Boldin?!? Whatever you say, boss.....


I believe his point is Boldins exit is nearing, where as Randle has a long career ahead.
RE: RE: Pissing and moaning over nothing  
Enoch : 10/26/2015 12:34 pm : link
In comment 12577339 Big Blue '56 said:
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Guy catches a 44 yarder and 24 yarder and there is complaining.

Saying he's not a top 3 receiver on this team is retarded. If you think other receivers don't drop passes, you're not watching any other teams.

Go ahead and not sign him and you are going to be drafting another wideout with a top pick and that means you aren't using that pick on the defense which still needs helps and speed. A 24 year old receiver with a 70 catch 1000 yard season under his belt is going to be a hot commodity as a FA.



I'd absolutely try to resign him..At what Cost? Not sure at this point

He'll probably pull a ~$5M/year offer from somewhere. Young WRs with non-terrible starting experience do tend to get paid.

The clear ceiling is the Golden Tate contract with DET ($6.2M avg.) Reuben and Golden will have had similar numbers under their respective rookie deals if Randle finishes the season on his current pace, but Tate added value as a PR and could argue that the run-first offense in SEA limited his productivity.
at what cost?  
fkap : 10/26/2015 12:34 pm : link
He's a guy who some team is going to say 'In our system, he'd be great' and throw some money at him.

He's a guy who you absolutely do NOT match market value, unless the market has tanked.

He's good, but flawed, and the tendinitis thing scares the crap out of me.

gotta let the season play out, but at this point...not with a 10 foot pole.
RE: RE: How about when he had steps  
Toth029 : 10/26/2015 12:36 pm : link
In comment 12577017 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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on the DBs, yet runs out of bounds. Brains, yes, they are lacking.



Is it easier to believe that he just decided he didn't want to score, or that he's got knee tendinitis and a hamstring that's limiting him?

Those two things, along with his record on missing meetings and his wild inconsistency, tells me he's not worth to re-sign come March.
RE: There are a lot of RR apologists on this board  
DonQuixote : 10/26/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12577002 dep026 said:
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it's clear as day this guy cannot be relied upon to be a top 3 WR on your team. He made a great outstanding catch. But he also dropped 2 more inside the 20, including a perfectly place post pattern.

Simply put. He is not very good.


He is a top 3 receiver on our team. I am not sure what your point is. He would also be a top 3 receiver on other teams that lack WR depth, Green Bay for example. Everyone tries to get the best players they can with the talent that's out there and their salary cap constraints. I feel like Randle is making plays for the Giants. Not perfect, but a valuable member of our team.
No one will give him  
old man : 10/26/2015 12:55 pm : link
more money. They see what we see; he'll be here or make the HN farewell tour around the league.
The RR of last year  
phil in arizona : 10/26/2015 1:00 pm : link
was pretty good. I think that's what you have to judge him by. He's hurt right now.

They have a really tough call to make this off-season. Do they re-sign him knowing he has a chronic condition or do they sink resources into into adding another WR? I can live with the RR of last year but I also don't want another injury risk in addition to Cruz. Going WR high in the next draft might take away from adding a TE, DE, or O-lineman that they need.
Not a bum. Not a good player  
KWALL2 : 10/26/2015 1:00 pm : link
I expect average play from him because thats all he is. We have an average NFL WR with Randle so I don't get worked up about anything he does. We should look to upgrade the spot next year.
james Jones  
spike : 10/26/2015 1:01 pm : link
couldve beaten him out as no 3 WR.

Wheres Manningham now?
Boldin is not an answer for a team that's building  
JonC : 10/26/2015 1:01 pm : link
he's more likely to fall off the cliff suddenly.
he's the definition of exasperating. Great 1 handed catch followed  
Victor in CT : 10/26/2015 1:04 pm : link
by a drop right in his hands all by himself.
During the SF game, 4th qtr ...  
DonQuixote : 10/26/2015 1:19 pm : link
Beckham and Randle are hurt and on the sideline and we have to drive the ball down the field to win. How many of you thought,
"thank god Randle is out", not me. I wanted him in there because I thought he could help us win the game...

So with that, tell me why I should think Randle is not an important part of this team ...

DQ
RE: He makes that catch  
Arcanum : 10/26/2015 1:26 pm : link
In comment 12577046 Bleedblue10 said:
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On the post were talking about a different game here and people aren't complaining about how we won. That could have put us up 10-14 points there. But just like the slant pass earlier in the game he took his eyes off the ball cause he's scared to get hit. I can't stand the guy and hope we don't offer him shit next year cause I want to see where he ends up. I guarantee ull never see him again if we don't bring him back


Basically. He's reached his potential. And I don't see him getting better. That drop almost costed the giants.. Speaking of drops, how many do they have now 23 ?
RE: Boldin is not an answer for a team that's building  
BlueGuy : 10/26/2015 1:31 pm : link
In comment 12577575 JonC said:
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he's more likely to fall off the cliff suddenly.


Sanu? Streater? Kearse? Matthews?

All better football players than Randle.

I'd take Sanu first. Even at 5-6 million a year.
3 guys I would target  
dep026 : 10/26/2015 1:33 pm : link
Marvin Jones
Rishard Matthews
Brian Quick
any one of those 3 works for me  
djm : 10/26/2015 1:56 pm : link
I really like Jones. He's for real.
Travis Benjamin  
phil in arizona : 10/26/2015 2:01 pm : link
will probably get a big deal in Cleveland, but boy would he fit in here.
I read that  
phil in arizona : 10/26/2015 2:02 pm : link
Sanu is one of the worst blocking WRs in the NFL.
What's the deal with Quick?  
phil in arizona : 10/26/2015 2:04 pm : link
Is he just always hurt?
the db got his hand on the ball  
chillinman1183 : 10/26/2015 2:27 pm : link
wich caused the ball to hit randles hands funny. That's what I saw anyway. I think you should take another look at the end of the play.
randle is definitely a decent player in this league. Especially when he's 100%. Look at the last 2 games of the year in 2014.
Take a look at the Rams game especially!!
He is soft with a laissez faire attitude  
GiantTuff1 : 10/26/2015 3:40 pm : link
and by that I mean he has no grit or killer instinct. He seems afraid to be as big a star as he can be.

He is the opposite of Beckham in this regard. He seems content to just be around, not striving to the absolute best. This small ball approach is lazy.

You build a winning team with are guys with the attitude of a a Beckum, a Manning, a Vereen. Always striving to be the absolute best, regardless of talent level or if they are vocally loud.

Randle, like Donnell, are maddening because they have some good measurable and ability, but they seems to shrink down to moments rather than rise up and seize it and excel over everyone.
Nothing is maddening about this player--we discussed this last week  
hassan : 10/26/2015 8:09 pm : link
he has warts. He is a pokey, no seperation big target that has some decent understanding of the offense but no outstanding trait as a player. However, he is typical of an average to below average #2. I dont get the not having a roster spot nonsense. Do you posters realize 20 players in the nfl eclipse 1000 yards a year? Many #1s dont on teams.

Randle is a decent player. Hardly a bust at the end of round #2. Inconsistent hands. Injured and beat up.

The way our coordinator is calling the offense this year, OBJ will be lucky to pass 1200 yards. What chance does Randle have to get big yards?????
Everyone in the league has some talent  
hassan : 10/27/2015 9:29 am : link
only the top 10 pct or so strive to be the best like a manning, beckham, etc. Most teams only have 3-4 of these players.

Randle is a 'middle class' player. I dont see any star makings in him though. What attribute of his is star like?

His size is slightly above average. His speed and moves are pedestrian. His competitiveness and drive are average. His health is average to below average. His knowledge of the offense is probably his best attribute.

Perhaps people remember his lofty draft evaluation. Forget it, its known he's not the Hakeem Nicks clone people thought we were getting with him for years now.

Quite frankly, he looked at least somewhat explosive as a rookie against dallas and philly. have not seen that since. His body seems to have broken down at an early age happens to football players.
Fucking  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/1/2015 5:29 pm : link
Exasperating
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