but Royals announcer who was just on with Francesa says the meteorologists tracking the weather claim the rain will move "east" by first pitch and this game will be fine.
During the Cubs/Mets Game #4, the announcer mentioned that this was the rallying cry for the '86 Mets. It made me wonder if the real story was known by more contemporary Met's fans.
1986 rallying cry, that's not entirely true... the phrase 'Ya Gotta Believe came from Tug McGraw late in the '73 season (the Met's lost to the A's in the World Series that year). The following year, the Met's rallied around the phrase, 'Ya Gotta believe more in '74'.
During the Cubs/Mets Game #4, the announcer mentioned that this was the rallying cry for the '86 Mets. It made me wonder if the real story was known by more contemporary Met's fans.
1986 rallying cry, that's not entirely true... the phrase 'Ya Gotta Believe came from Tug McGraw late in the '73 season (the Met's lost to the A's in the World Series that year). The following year, the Met's rallied around the phrase, 'Ya Gotta believe more in '74'.
Not only that Bama, but if I remember correctly, Tug said it in a mocking way. I think they were in a losing streak and the owner or GM came into the locker room to pump up the team and Tug mockingly jumped up on his stool and screamed Ya Gotta Believe!
it's a different award. This one is voted on by other managers. This was sporting news manager of the year. The NL Manager of the year will be voted on by the BBWAA
-deGrom confirmed he's cutting his hair after the series
No, Sampson! No!!
DeGrom and Thor are so known by their locks they should've been trademarked lol. I don't know if I can get use to DeGrom without it. The kid has such a baby face.
it would be damn near our team exactly. I know some people like the small ball approach, speedy type team.... Not me. We've had the most talented team in baseball for some time now and thats why we're are here. Power up and down the lineup. On base percentage. Our leadoff guy can pop 20 HR. Our 8th hitter can pop 20 HR. POWER PITCHING. Nobody has anything close to this. Sorry. This is unprecedented. The perfect veteran bench. One of the best closers in the game. The bullpen has some concerns but if Mejia hadn't gotten suspended and Blevins hadn't been a dumbass our embarrassment of riches is even that much more ridiculous. Im so proud of Sandy and what he's done here. I know it took some longer to see than others but man has he done a fantastic job.
True and a little more to that story. Tug actually got the inspiration from Joe Badamo, a friend of Tug's and a motivational speaker. Here's a link to a great story on the way that all played out in 1973... Ya Gotta Believe - ( New Window )
have to play 3 games without their best player than people are willing to admit. If Cespedes or one of our best players was getting suspended for 3 games we would all be bitching and complaining about what a disadvantage that would be.
Well, I have to say, my hat's off to you. I didn't think it was even theoretically possible for a human being to be a bigger buffoon than Headhunter, but you've done it. You've achieved what once seemed impossible.
RE: RE: I think if I could build the perfect team...
Well, I have to say, my hat's off to you. I didn't think it was even theoretically possible for a human being to be a bigger buffoon than Headhunter, but you've done it. You've achieved what once seemed impossible.
Haha. Enjoy squirming in your seat with every pitch, troll.
it would be damn near our team exactly. I know some people like the small ball approach, speedy type team.... Not me. We've had the most talented team in baseball for some time now and thats why we're are here. Power up and down the lineup. On base percentage. Our leadoff guy can pop 20 HR. Our 8th hitter can pop 20 HR. POWER PITCHING. Nobody has anything close to this. Sorry. This is unprecedented. The perfect veteran bench. One of the best closers in the game. The bullpen has some concerns but if Mejia hadn't gotten suspended and Blevins hadn't been a dumbass our embarrassment of riches is even that much more ridiculous. Im so proud of Sandy and what he's done here. I know it took some longer to see than others but man has he done a fantastic job.
Now lets cement this fucking thing.
I'm so torn here....I want to calm you down but I appreciate the enthusiasm. It maaaaaaaaaaaaaaay be a bit of a stretch to say this is any version of a "perfect team". Perfect pitching staff? Yes sir. Next year, I just want to literally see a perfect pitching staff when Wheeler comes back. But a wee bit weak on D in the middle infield, no? Ideally we would be able to switch Grandy and Cespedes in the outfield....And Grandy has done a superb job but would be more "perfect" to have a SS or 2B that could lead off and Grandy could be up second, lineup gets shifted down etc...
Just nitpicking your enthusiastic opinion. No harm intended. But one thing that's true no matter what is that the team from the first half to now is insanely improved.
When? Over the last week or so? LOL. Im sorry, Ive been a little pre-occupied watching the greatest baseball team on planet earth. Sorry. I post on Giants threads plenty.
RE: RE: I think if I could build the perfect team...
it would be damn near our team exactly. I know some people like the small ball approach, speedy type team.... Not me. We've had the most talented team in baseball for some time now and thats why we're are here. Power up and down the lineup. On base percentage. Our leadoff guy can pop 20 HR. Our 8th hitter can pop 20 HR. POWER PITCHING. Nobody has anything close to this. Sorry. This is unprecedented. The perfect veteran bench. One of the best closers in the game. The bullpen has some concerns but if Mejia hadn't gotten suspended and Blevins hadn't been a dumbass our embarrassment of riches is even that much more ridiculous. Im so proud of Sandy and what he's done here. I know it took some longer to see than others but man has he done a fantastic job.
Now lets cement this fucking thing.
I'm so torn here....I want to calm you down but I appreciate the enthusiasm. It maaaaaaaaaaaaaaay be a bit of a stretch to say this is any version of a "perfect team". Perfect pitching staff? Yes sir. Next year, I just want to literally see a perfect pitching staff when Wheeler comes back. But a wee bit weak on D in the middle infield, no? Ideally we would be able to switch Grandy and Cespedes in the outfield....And Grandy has done a superb job but would be more "perfect" to have a SS or 2B that could lead off and Grandy could be up second, lineup gets shifted down etc...
Just nitpicking your enthusiastic opinion. No harm intended. But one thing that's true no matter what is that the team from the first half to now is insanely improved.
I mean there is no such thing as perfection. You will never achieve it. But as far as building a team within reality? Yes this is about as close as you can get to that kind of perfect. Especially with Mejia and Blevins in the pen right now, and Wheeler as our 5th starter. This is how a team should be built IMO. This is a SABR team. Power pitching, power closer, power hitting, and on base percentage. The lineup has a perfect balance of youth and vets. Veteran bench. Defensive versatility. lefty/righty balance. The Mets have the most talent in baseball and still have a loaded system filled with hitting prospects that haven't even arrived yet. Sorry. I don't care if that sounds homerish. They do.
Its average. That's the tradeoff. You can't have gold glovers at every position and have mashers at every position. You have to choose sometimes unless you expect two way MVP types at every spot which of course is ridiculous. We have CHOSEN to go with offense at SS and 2B. Thats the tradeoff. Im glad we have.
and again today is World Series Game 1 day so this is not any negativity, just baseball talk. The pitching and the closer are some sort of reward to Met fans for putting up with so many tough moments and years of crap. To have a bunch of pitching prospects is something that happens, and to have one...maybe two work out is something more rare. But to have 5 that literally are all beyond good. They have 4 number one aces and a possible 1A pitcher at the 5 slot. It's never even happened before. It's something out of a video game. Then to have a starter with an almost identical level of talent who just wasn't as sharp in later innings, so they move him to closer and he turns out to be a nearly unhittable pitcher in the 9th, is just the cherry on top. The staff and the closer can literally keep the Mets at some level of good or better for many seasons. It's fun.
Personally, if Duda was consistent Lucas and not streaky Lucas, and D'Arnaud continues to grow into a superb hitter at the catcher spot, then I'd trade some offense up the middle for speed and gloves. If you have a superior CF and then superb IF defense, it makes any team better. Everything else you said I agree with and I don't think describing the roster and why it is good has to be called homerish. If its true its true.
Just win tonight. If things go right, I think the Mets can be a team that makes the Royals look a lot less "special". Truth is, if the Mets pitchers pitch the way they can and have, they are the way better team/.
Isn't "the KC Royals do not strike out" different than "the KC Royals?
In other words, when media and fans talk about KC, they use the fact that they were the team with the lowest strike out total as a way of saying the Mets will not be able to strike them out or if they do, it will be rare at best.
But why don't people understand the difference between a full long ass season's total and a 7 game series against great pitching? Over the course of the season, the Royals were tough to strike out. Very tough. But this is a series. During the year they struck out one every 5-6 ab's. That is against lots of bad pitchers, bad teams, teams with bad staffs in 3 and 4 game series'.
They can strike out. They aren't immune to it. Especially not againt our guys.
as a pinch hitter off the bench he's infinitely more dangerous than anyone else we've got right now. Madsen in the 8th is their weak link and I'm sure we some of these games will be decided in later innings.
At home without the DH I feel we will have a huge edge over the Royals, especially given their starters in those games. Absolutely need to take 1 of these games in KC with Harvey/JdG on the mound.
If you want to come here and talk about the game it doesn't even matter to me who you root for as long as you don't act like these other people who want to fuck up everyone's night. FIne by me.
Watching the Mets during the run...Im very happy for all of you Mets fans...
I hope they take it all...
Good Luck Guys!
Ill break out my old Mets t-shirt for good luck!
That is what I thought they'd do.
A morning discussion thread was started around 6am.. This is the official game thread with the lineups.
A New York State of Mind!
-deGrom confirmed he's cutting his hair after the series
1986 rallying cry, that's not entirely true... the phrase 'Ya Gotta Believe came from Tug McGraw late in the '73 season (the Met's lost to the A's in the World Series that year). The following year, the Met's rallied around the phrase, 'Ya Gotta believe more in '74'.
-deGrom confirmed he's cutting his hair after the series
No, Sampson! No!!
1986 rallying cry, that's not entirely true... the phrase 'Ya Gotta Believe came from Tug McGraw late in the '73 season (the Met's lost to the A's in the World Series that year). The following year, the Met's rallied around the phrase, 'Ya Gotta believe more in '74'.
Not only that Bama, but if I remember correctly, Tug said it in a mocking way. I think they were in a losing streak and the owner or GM came into the locker room to pump up the team and Tug mockingly jumped up on his stool and screamed Ya Gotta Believe!
it's a different award. This one is voted on by other managers. This was sporting news manager of the year. The NL Manager of the year will be voted on by the BBWAA
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-deGrom confirmed he's cutting his hair after the series
No, Sampson! No!!
DeGrom and Thor are so known by their locks they should've been trademarked lol. I don't know if I can get use to DeGrom without it. The kid has such a baby face.
[quote] wins manager of the year [/quo]
Totally deserved.
Now lets cement this fucking thing.
But let's cement this thing!
Ya Gotta Believe - ( New Window )
Well, I have to say, my hat's off to you. I didn't think it was even theoretically possible for a human being to be a bigger buffoon than Headhunter, but you've done it. You've achieved what once seemed impossible.
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This is unprecedented.
Well, I have to say, my hat's off to you. I didn't think it was even theoretically possible for a human being to be a bigger buffoon than Headhunter, but you've done it. You've achieved what once seemed impossible.
Haha. Enjoy squirming in your seat with every pitch, troll.
Now lets cement this fucking thing.
I'm so torn here....I want to calm you down but I appreciate the enthusiasm. It maaaaaaaaaaaaaaay be a bit of a stretch to say this is any version of a "perfect team". Perfect pitching staff? Yes sir. Next year, I just want to literally see a perfect pitching staff when Wheeler comes back. But a wee bit weak on D in the middle infield, no? Ideally we would be able to switch Grandy and Cespedes in the outfield....And Grandy has done a superb job but would be more "perfect" to have a SS or 2B that could lead off and Grandy could be up second, lineup gets shifted down etc...
Just nitpicking your enthusiastic opinion. No harm intended. But one thing that's true no matter what is that the team from the first half to now is insanely improved.
When? Over the last week or so? LOL. Im sorry, Ive been a little pre-occupied watching the greatest baseball team on planet earth. Sorry. I post on Giants threads plenty.
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it would be damn near our team exactly. I know some people like the small ball approach, speedy type team.... Not me. We've had the most talented team in baseball for some time now and thats why we're are here. Power up and down the lineup. On base percentage. Our leadoff guy can pop 20 HR. Our 8th hitter can pop 20 HR. POWER PITCHING. Nobody has anything close to this. Sorry. This is unprecedented. The perfect veteran bench. One of the best closers in the game. The bullpen has some concerns but if Mejia hadn't gotten suspended and Blevins hadn't been a dumbass our embarrassment of riches is even that much more ridiculous. Im so proud of Sandy and what he's done here. I know it took some longer to see than others but man has he done a fantastic job.
Now lets cement this fucking thing.
I'm so torn here....I want to calm you down but I appreciate the enthusiasm. It maaaaaaaaaaaaaaay be a bit of a stretch to say this is any version of a "perfect team". Perfect pitching staff? Yes sir. Next year, I just want to literally see a perfect pitching staff when Wheeler comes back. But a wee bit weak on D in the middle infield, no? Ideally we would be able to switch Grandy and Cespedes in the outfield....And Grandy has done a superb job but would be more "perfect" to have a SS or 2B that could lead off and Grandy could be up second, lineup gets shifted down etc...
Just nitpicking your enthusiastic opinion. No harm intended. But one thing that's true no matter what is that the team from the first half to now is insanely improved.
I mean there is no such thing as perfection. You will never achieve it. But as far as building a team within reality? Yes this is about as close as you can get to that kind of perfect. Especially with Mejia and Blevins in the pen right now, and Wheeler as our 5th starter. This is how a team should be built IMO. This is a SABR team. Power pitching, power closer, power hitting, and on base percentage. The lineup has a perfect balance of youth and vets. Veteran bench. Defensive versatility. lefty/righty balance. The Mets have the most talent in baseball and still have a loaded system filled with hitting prospects that haven't even arrived yet. Sorry. I don't care if that sounds homerish. They do.
Born and raised a Mets fan in NY.
I would never, ever root for the Dodgers.
Personally, if Duda was consistent Lucas and not streaky Lucas, and D'Arnaud continues to grow into a superb hitter at the catcher spot, then I'd trade some offense up the middle for speed and gloves. If you have a superior CF and then superb IF defense, it makes any team better. Everything else you said I agree with and I don't think describing the roster and why it is good has to be called homerish. If its true its true.
Just win tonight. If things go right, I think the Mets can be a team that makes the Royals look a lot less "special". Truth is, if the Mets pitchers pitch the way they can and have, they are the way better team/.
In other words, when media and fans talk about KC, they use the fact that they were the team with the lowest strike out total as a way of saying the Mets will not be able to strike them out or if they do, it will be rare at best.
But why don't people understand the difference between a full long ass season's total and a 7 game series against great pitching? Over the course of the season, the Royals were tough to strike out. Very tough. But this is a series. During the year they struck out one every 5-6 ab's. That is against lots of bad pitchers, bad teams, teams with bad staffs in 3 and 4 game series'.
They can strike out. They aren't immune to it. Especially not againt our guys.
If you believe in patterns, Juan Uribe won the WS in 2005 and 2010. Now Mets put him on their 2015 World Series roster.
At home without the DH I feel we will have a huge edge over the Royals, especially given their starters in those games. Absolutely need to take 1 of these games in KC with Harvey/JdG on the mound.
If you want to come here and talk about the game it doesn't even matter to me who you root for as long as you don't act like these other people who want to fuck up everyone's night. FIne by me.
Arod picked the Mets
Ibanez still hates the Mets from his Philly days.