and we are still undermanned with Amukamara, Cruz, JPP, Beatty not suiting up.
Can the team squeak out one more win to buy a little more time until the reinforcements start returning?
Not looking too far ahead, but the Bucs WR corps took some big hits on Sunday.
Oddly, I can see Beckham having a huge day but in a losing cause.
I understand this is a different Saints team but they are still dangerous. If we can keep them under 23 points, Eli and Co. have a good chance.
The Tampa game looms large as well, NYG needs to win games where they're perhaps a slight underdog on the road while the opportunities present themselves.
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a few days before Christmas. Won that one 24-14, pretty handily. Phil Simms (one of his last hoorah's) > Wade Wilson, basically.
1994- Lost 27-22. Dave Brown Special. This was the Dan Reeves Denver Giants team. I remember a banner hanging in the upper deck that said "All I Want for Christmas is Kent Graham to Start at QB". Random fact...I still have my game program from this game, and the cover is a headshot of our punter, Mike Horan with the title "Mile High Horan".
Since going 1-1 back then, things have been atrocious, and the games haven't even been close. Nobody needs to take this team lightly...I don't care how 'down' the Saints are this year. They OWN our ass in the Superdome. Their fans really seem to get 'up' for the Giants. They like Eli, but they are hell on 'away' fans. We can't keep the Saints from scoring over 40 in NO under Coughlin's tenure. Eli has never won there (in the NFL, that is), and we never seem to even bother to get off the bus/plane.
2003- Lost 45-7: Sunday Night Football, for all the world to see. This was the Joe Horn cell phone in the goal post game. Our QB was Jessie Palmer. Fassel's tenure was down the drain and we had no Strahan, Hilliard and some other big names. I watched Shockey practice PUNTING on the field for 30 minutes before the game. It came out later that he'd stayed out all night and gotten plastered in the French Quarter. We got our ever living asses handed to us. Embarrassing.
2005- Don't be confused by PFR listing this as a Home game for the Saints. After Hurricane Katrina, we hung some Saints banners at Giants Stadium and invited the homeless and hapless Saints to NJ for a 'home' game, and sent them packing with an L, 27-10.
2009- Lost 48-27: Brees killed us. Shockey even scored (guess that first rounder made it worthwhile, though). Nowhere near as close as this score. I don't think we touched Brees all game. We couldn't run the ball or cover in the secondary. Horrible.
2011- Lost 49-24: Brees murdered us yet again. Even scored up the middle on a run. They beat us up front, too...man-to-man. We looked so weak and uninspired out there. Long day in the Dome.
As bad as has been the last three times, that's as close as my GMEN ever come to me, so you bet your ass I'm not missing this one. Hopefully they'll send me home with something to be happy about this year.
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If we are to have any chance to take this one on the road, imv we need to show up against the run like we did the first few weeks, not like we have the previous two. If we give Ingram a big game Brees will pick us apart off the play action.
If we stop the run and can't get to Brees, he'll still pick us apart but we'll have a chance for some picks of our own.
I have a feeling we might generate pass pressure from an unexpected source.
Puts the Eagles at 3-5
Cowboys at 3-6.
The keys like most weeks will be offensive efficiency and causing some turnovers on defense.
Eli needs to earn his paycheck this Sunday and Beckham needs to put on a show.
Stop it. They haven't played in 4 years. The number of players on both teams that played in that game probably number around 10.
It's not the same teams. The only thing that's the same are the QBs and the head coaches. What happened 4 years ago and later has no bearing whatsoever on this week's game.
This is a huge game against an average opponent.
They haven't come out slow or stodgy or soft yet, which has been a staple of his teams during his tenure. This shift has us at peak performance by game days and with a talent deficiency we need it. Right now, TC is out coaching people and so are his coordinators. There is bad bad bad football league wide because of the reduced practice times and the teams not adjusting are struggling. I'm not saying Coughlin has been perfect or solved everything but this is a huge huge step for this team to be prepared every week.
the giants offensive line needs to play much better than they have the last two games and we can't afford any major sloppy/stupid mistakes on offense.
Yeah, we need to pay NO back for that Joe Horn stunt. It still gets to me. I'll make sure to down a couple of po'boys in dramatic fashion before the game.
History doesn't always repeat itself. This game on sunday has nothing in common with 2011.
Philly was even worse in that not only did they lose badly, they laid down like dogs after 2 bad plays in the FIRST QUARTER. No chin.
Now, there's reason to worry because our defense is again weak, but the earlier losses have more to do with talent than the location.
Philly was even worse in that not only did they lose badly, they laid down like dogs after 2 bad plays in the FIRST QUARTER. No chin.
i agree with you. the beat writers all the pundits and so called experts and even tiki says the giants are lacking talent,so why does reese seem to always get a pass?
History doesn't always repeat itself. This game on sunday has nothing in common with 2011.
I can't believe Kato Serwanga is really the best we can do in the secondary!
If we beat the Saints in New Orleans I think it's as big a win as we can have with only maybe 3 or 4 exceptions.
I think we're gonna play a TOP game with runs and short passes, with a few long ones to OBJ and Randle. I'm predicting a win. OK, who just wrote that?
unfortunately, we do not have the pass rush to exploit this weakness. we will get drew brees having all day to spread the ball around, with our usual herd of subpar linebackers
on the other end, new Orleans, san diego and philly are places we have had some bad beatdowns.
But a win would be huge. Absolutely huge. Cowboys play Seahawks this weak...a win for us, loss for them would really put them behind the 8 ball and almost finish them. A win also means we could very realistically expect a win the following week. That would put us at 6-3 with Prince Beatty JPP and Cruz expected back.
No guarantee of course but 6-3 with talent like that coming back I don't think anyone is catching us.
Of course, teh NFL is such that every week you can paint the game critical.. But this week it really is from a positive stand point because I don't think a loss dooms us while a win does a lot of positive things
....Brees will shred this Giants defense..I've no doubt
.....but Eli given time to throw down field, could put up 40 points.
I think it is that simple.
This is how I see it too, hopeful though ...
I recall when the 49ers played the Saints in 2012 at the Dome they relied on their sick pass rush to force the picks. It almost seemed that whenever they didn't get home he was able to make a play. It was a down season for the Saints, but Brees and Co were still capable of putting it up against the Niners that day.
The last two seasons with noticeably less pass rush they were able to pick him off with pattern matching coverage schemes. Mostly this came from LBs and Safeties, not so much corners.
All 3 games at the Superdome.
Brees still has a bit of a gun slinger mentality that can be taken advantage of.
....Brees will shred this Giants defense..I've no doubt
.....but Eli given time to throw down field, could put up 40 points.
I think it is that simple.
Would like to see us keep ramping up the ground game too. Eli will have more time if they have to respect/worry more about the run.
...how will our mediocre offense answer with our WRs nursing hammys and a not-great run game?
Would anyone on this site be surprised if the score ends up N.O. 34 - Giants 14?
If, yes, wake up from your deep slumber.
Like the Giants chances. This is a winnable game. The Saints are living off the reputation of being one of the formidable teams in the league. Coughlin will help McAdoo craft a gameplan that attacks the Saints inside on running plays and to the sidelines on passes. Then when Ryan leaves the middle vacated, I think the post game will open too.
7 Saints missed practice today, including 2 members of their o-line. Lewis is iffy with a hip at CB. Giants.