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Predictions for Darkwa going forward.

Jerz44 : 10/29/2015 4:41 pm
What do you see him doing?

Rising to the top and overtaking the starting role?

Flash in the pan and we've seen his best?

Somewhere in between?

Personally, after watching the Giants for years some guys just have an "it" factor. This is completely non-scientific and only based on a feeling. Ahmad Bradshaw had it. I think Darkwa has it. We'll see.

Go Giants!
Canton  
Headhunter : 10/29/2015 4:42 pm : link
Ohio
The next  
PEEJ : 10/29/2015 4:44 pm : link
Ahmad Bradshaw.
My prediction?  
pjcas18 : 10/29/2015 4:44 pm : link
Pain

i was saying this after the eagles game  
mirwin : 10/29/2015 4:45 pm : link
he needed to play

he may not be the fastest, strongest, smartest, or best hands, but he is the most solid all around back. He seems to have great vision he was finding holes shad and everyone else wasn't. Plus when he ran over Greg hardy like a bowling pin, that was cool. i hope he gets more of a chance near mid field or up. He seems like he has good balance and vision. I remember against St. Louis he bounced off like 3 guys. Darkwa = energizer bunny keeps on moving, the marshawn lynch of tulane.
reminds me of our old friend  
mirwin : 10/29/2015 4:46 pm : link
I added him to my FF team  
Scyber : 10/29/2015 4:48 pm : link
So based on past luck, IR is the most likely destination.
He reminds me of  
RAIN : 10/29/2015 4:50 pm : link
Andre Brown. Not really Bradshaw. I'd like to see him get 10 carries this game.
I think he'll become the #2 behind Jennings  
BillT : 10/29/2015 4:52 pm : link
Take the majority of William's carries. By next year, who knows.
It's hard to tell isn't it ...  
DonQuixote : 10/29/2015 4:53 pm : link
He could be an unnoticed talent or he could be healthy, hungry and a change of pace (which could change).

I can see how a RB with an injury his senior year would drop off the draft boards, but he didn't catch on with his first NFL team, so that makes me wonder a bit.

I just loved watching that drive when he scored the touchdown. He was just carrying people. I can see how that may not show up in practice and maybe he just needed a shot on the field to show what his talents are. I hope that's it.
Quick Works  
NJLCO : 10/29/2015 4:55 pm : link
Some say he is not fast however I do believe he has a quick and powerful burst into the hole. And once he gets to the second level he is a beast to bring down
Well, after that one series last week,  
Doomster : 10/29/2015 4:59 pm : link
he deserves a few more carries this week.....
Giants don[t need him to be super fast  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/29/2015 5:00 pm : link
I think he seems to have the best burst tom the hole as all the others. Jennings and Williams just look average to me. Jennings is no kjd and has an injury filled history here. I assume they want to make sure he can handle pass pro and can catch the ball. At this point Vereen is the only sure keep due to his pass catching ability so lets hope he can get some more carries because this team does not have a true starter IMO.
Heisman Trophy for sure  
averagejoe : 10/29/2015 5:02 pm : link
and maybe the HOF after that.
RE: i was saying this after the eagles game  
Vanzetti : 10/29/2015 5:06 pm : link
In comment 12585823 mirwin said:
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he needed to play

he may not be the fastest, strongest, smartest, or best hands, but he is the most solid all around back.


He ran a 4.45 at his pro day. So, he is pretty damn fast.
Correction: 4.46  
Vanzetti : 10/29/2015 5:08 pm : link
6.90 cone
37.5 vertical

5'11' 215

The guy has great athleticism
by way of comparison  
Vanzetti : 10/29/2015 5:10 pm : link
Prince ran a 4.48 forty and 6.97 cone.
who knows with our rbbc  
GMenLTS : 10/29/2015 5:15 pm : link
but he damn well deserves some more work
Dropped Abdullah  
Fish : 10/29/2015 5:22 pm : link
For darkwa. He's doomed.
He'll shine for a few games ....  
Beer Man : 10/29/2015 5:32 pm : link
sign a big contract, immediately blow out a knee, tease the fans for a couple of years that he is on the way back, then we never hear from him again.
I would use him to pound the middle of the Aints defense into  
213374 : 10/29/2015 5:44 pm : link
submission! Give the oline a chance to fire out and lay on people and have Darkwa pound what's left! That of course will work unless the Jints fall behind early.
Another Joe Montgomery  
Gman11 : 10/29/2015 5:48 pm : link
on the horizon.
RE: by way of comparison  
RicFlair : 10/29/2015 5:50 pm : link
In comment 12585880 Vanzetti said:
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Prince ran a 4.48 forty and 6.97 cone.


which compares favorably to Morris Day's 4.80 forty and 7.02 cone.
RE: i was saying this after the eagles game  
santacruzom : 10/29/2015 5:57 pm : link
In comment 12585823 mirwin said:
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he needed to play

he may not be the fastest, strongest, smartest, or best hands, but he is the most solid all around back.


One site says his 40 yard dash range at the combine was 4.36 to 4.56, and his official time was 4.46. That's pretty fast!
He'll fumble the next time he touches the ball...  
BamaBlue : 10/29/2015 5:57 pm : link
and never see the field again. As karma's janitor, I feel it necessary to keep it real with you guys...
Darkwa  
PaulN : 10/29/2015 5:58 pm : link
Will be part of the running back rotation.
oops  
santacruzom : 10/29/2015 5:59 pm : link
I guess those are Pro Day numbers.

A 37 inch vertical is pretty sick.
to answer your question  
santacruzom : 10/29/2015 6:00 pm : link
My heart is saying he'll finish the year with 180+ carries. My head is saying he'll barely crack 50.
Can he block,  
TMS : 10/29/2015 6:08 pm : link
can he catch, and get eseparation in a screen situation ? Is he a complete NFL RB. Hope he is but who knows now. We will know soon enough because last weeks performance gets him the chance to prove it.
They should move Williams  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/29/2015 6:53 pm : link
To FB.....
Orleans Darkwa Sounds Like A Star Wars Character  
Trainmaster : 10/29/2015 6:56 pm : link
Maybe this guy's brother?

RE: oops  
BlueLou : 10/29/2015 6:56 pm : link
In comment 12585957 santacruzom said:
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I guess those are Pro Day numbers.

A 37 inch vertical is pretty sick.


David Wilson had a 41 in vertical, and a 132 in broad jump, both at the real combine where measurements are typically more conservative than athletes' pro days...
You couldn't ask for much more  
GiantsRage2007 : 10/29/2015 6:58 pm : link
Than what he produced on his carries vs Dallas

Give him 5-10 carries vs the Saints and see what he can do

It would be great if one of the backs really performed and could be a featured back

He sure did look good 4 carries in a row the other day. Definitely brought back Bradshaw memories...
I really liked what Darkwa did,  
BlueLou : 10/29/2015 7:00 pm : link
but he doesn't run anything even remotely like Ahmad Bradshaw. Well maybe the good forward lean when he wants to run through people...
He doesn't run like Bradshaw  
PEEJ : 10/29/2015 7:06 pm : link
but he's being added slowly to the game plan ala Bradshaw.
That's a picture  
Joey in VA : 10/29/2015 7:09 pm : link
Of Derrick Ward
RE: That's a picture  
BlueLou : 10/29/2015 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12586023 Joey in VA said:
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Of Derrick Ward


Umm Joeeeeey... you imagined anyone nuts enough to be reading or writing here didn't know that?
buried on the bench  
blueblood : 10/29/2015 7:19 pm : link
behind Coughlin's Hyrda of running backs.
This one if for FMIC....  
Jimmy Googs : 10/29/2015 7:31 pm : link
What do you see him doing?
PLAYING RUNNING BACK

Rising to the top and overtaking the starting role?
UNLIKELY BUT NOT OUT OF QUESTION WITH OUR ROTATION

Flash in the pan and we've seen his best?
8 CARRIES FOR 48 YARDS IS A TOUGH SAMPLE SIZE TO MEASURE A FUTURE CAREER. I WILL GO WITH "NO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN HIS BEST" TO PLAY THE OPTIMIST

Somewhere in between?
NOT APPLICABLE
was  
blue42 : 10/29/2015 9:23 pm : link
at the Dallas game...Darkwa ran fast and thru a bunch of tackles. Much more of a one cut runner than either Williams or Jennings.Easier to block for if you ask me.
I don't see much this year  
5BowlsSoon : 10/29/2015 10:12 pm : link
Gmen don't like change and someone seems to like Williams even though it is apparent to most of us he is instinctive. What do we know?
After first series, Darkwa did nothing  
Ivan15 : 10/29/2015 10:53 pm : link
I don't know why. Maybe he was gsssed.
business  
area junc : 10/30/2015 12:17 am : link
he never got a real look because he had 2 high priced free agents in front of him and andre williams who seems like a coach's favorite

the business side of pro football

he looked good vs the rams last year too
Area Junc: I think you're exaggerating the money effect.  
Big Blue Blogger : 10/30/2015 3:40 am : link
area junc said:
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he never got a real look because he had 2 high priced free agents in front of him and andre williams who seems like a coach's favorite

the business side of pro football

he looked good vs the rams last year too


I don't think it's accurate to describe Jennings as a high-priced free agent. He wasn't guaranteed a dime this season, and the Giants would have achieved a net cap savings by cutting him - in just his second year. Even Vereen isn't "high-priced" by any reasonable definition, although he was obviously a roster lock for this year. I wouldn't even say Vereen is "in front of" Darkwa. SV has a specific role as the third-down back. The other three guys are competing for snaps in other down-and-distance situations.

Is Williams really a "coach's favorite"? His recent snap counts don't suggest that. The staff obviously likes the fact that he never fumbles. That's a very likable trait.

WRT your contention that Darkwa "never got a real look", he had more preseason carries - by far - than the three guys ahead of him on the depth chart. That's an imperfect metric, obviously, but it's all we've really got. None of us have a clue about whom the coaches did or didn't look at in camp, or what they saw in the process. I don't imagine Darkwa got many first-team reps; how could he? On-field practice time is scarce, so the priority is to get the incumbent starters ready, not to hold auditions for young running backs. The staff saw enough from Darkwa to carry four running backs rather than expose him to waivers. That suggests he was looked at enough over the past two seasons to make an impression, and to gradually earn playing time.
Ivan15  
blueblood'11 : 10/30/2015 7:24 am : link
He got like maybe two or thee more carries at the ost after that. How you can make a conclusion like that isn't fair. Even the best of backs get shut down two three four plays in a row after having had a good series of downs. This kid needs to get more touches. He's better then Williams and always finishes his runs forward. Not saying he's a bell cow but someone to give the offense a shot in the arm.

It's no doubt the Giants are loaded at the running back position. Williams may get better as he matures. Lord knows he's a load. But right now when Darkwa is on the field the offense moves. It stagnates when Williams comes in because he's not been a threat out of the backfield and teams key on him because the know all he is in there for is to run the ball.
Sean Bennett..  
BCD : 10/30/2015 8:40 am : link
BBI loves those type to root for...cross your fingers (not you JPP)
RE: i was saying this after the eagles game  
Brick72 : 10/30/2015 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12585823 mirwin said:
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he needed to play

he may not be the fastest, strongest, smartest, or best hands, but he is the most solid all around back.


What's with the mention of his smarts in that comment "he may not be the fastest, strongest, smartest..."? Do you know something we don't know? Please share.
Its  
NJGiantFan84 : 10/31/2015 1:22 am : link
Hard to know what his planned role was for the second half. Giants had only three possessions and one was Running three times to make them burn their timeouts.
my guess on his progression  
fkap : 10/31/2015 8:31 am : link
is that the Giants were intrigued by him and gave him a lot of carries in the preseason. He showed enough to keep him. I was surprised they kept 4 (plus whitlock). Is this usual? I thought 3 healthy HB was the norm?

when the season kicked off, the team went with the more tried crew, and as the tried turned out not so true, they tried OD.

he'll get more carries. he has to set the world on fire to become the main guy in the RBBC (which I think is what TC seems to be dedicated to).

Don't particularly like the RBBC. I'm guessing the practice snaps are shared like the game snaps are. means the OL and any given RB have fewer chances to develop chemistry. hopefully, OD can be a guy who has a knack for what this OL does.

RE: That's a picture  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 10/31/2015 9:48 am : link
In comment 12586023 Joey in VA said:
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Of Derrick Ward


I'm pretty sure that's Darth Maul
I disagree with those  
mrvax : 10/31/2015 11:04 am : link
who say Jennings is slow to a hole. I think the opposite is true. When our Oline can't get a yard for Williams, Jennings could always get 4 for himself.

That said, I like the little I saw from Darkwa a lot. Tom should give the young man 1/2 the offensive snaps this weekend.

Have to find out if Darkwa is a receiving threat. He's not worth as much if he's one dimensional as is Williams.

Also, can he block???
RE: Area Junc: I think you're exaggerating the money effect.  
TMS : 10/31/2015 11:34 am : link
In comment 12586449 Big Blue Blogger said:
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area junc said:

Quote:


he never got a real look because he had 2 high priced free agents in front of him and andre williams who seems like a coach's favorite

the business side of pro football

he looked good vs the rams last year too



I don't think it's accurate to describe Jennings as a high-priced free agent. He wasn't guaranteed a dime this season, and the Giants would have achieved a net cap savings by cutting him - in just his second year. Even Vereen isn't "high-priced" by any reasonable definition, although he was obviously a roster lock for this year. I wouldn't even say Vereen is "in front of" Darkwa. SV has a specific role as the third-down back. The other three guys are competing for snaps in other down-and-distance situations.

Is Williams really a "coach's favorite"? His recent snap counts don't suggest that. The staff obviously likes the fact that he never fumbles. That's a very likable trait.

WRT your contention that Darkwa "never got a real look", he had more preseason carries - by far - than the three guys ahead of him on the depth chart. That's an imperfect metric, obviously, but it's all we've really got. None of us have a clue about whom the coaches did or didn't look at in camp, or what they saw in the process. I don't imagine Darkwa got many first-team reps; how could he? On-field practice time is scarce, so the priority is to get the incumbent starters ready, not to hold auditions for young running backs. The staff saw enough from Darkwa to carry four running backs rather than expose him to waivers. That suggests he was looked at enough over the past two seasons to make an impression, and to gradually earn playing time.
Excellent post.
Absolutely no idea.  
Rick5 : 10/31/2015 11:48 am : link
He's barely played, so there isn't much to go on. It will be interesting to see how much they use him tomorrow.
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